! I somewhat agree… But, it would be wrong to use those words, I would rather state it as a desire because if you use "dreams" then some individuals may consider her attachment too important and will reflect that she was shouting his name in agony and attachment, over merely some small objects and things.
! Alright, let's explain it with pictures…
! http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/275/02/ - Robin goes down.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/275/07/ - She's basically saying "Eneru is so strong!!" or maybe she's saying "Luffy will save us!!"
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/275/08/ - You can't win!! Yup.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/275/10/ - What happened to that speech Oda had Usopp say in Alabasta? "When someone laughs and mocks your friend's dream and such, you don't let them…" and Nami is merely watching and not doing anything.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/275/17/ - Ummm… She's still doing nothing but sitting there. Hmm.... Why not take this chance to help Robin some...
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/275/18/ - Yup… HOWEVER...
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/276/10/ - After a quick fast forward, she's back on her ASS doing nothing…
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/276/15/ - Let's see what she does…
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/276/16/ - Darn… "GULP" and "PLEASE TAKE ME WITH YOU!!"
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/276/17/ - She says it with a happy face, amazing…
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/277/03/ - Please let me take this … I beg of you!!
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/277/05/ - My GOSH, GOLD!! ~~ No wait, I mean ESCAPE!!
! Change of SCENE to a "SH worthy character" now:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/277/15/ - Yo!! I'm captain and we must be missing Nami, where's she at?
Since he doesn't answer, we move to a SH worthy character; Robin: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/277/17/
So, she even worries for the traitor, what a woman and she's not even with the crew formally…
! Return to Nami: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/278/03/ – Still on about the escape.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/279/07/ - Why would she STFU when her former boss is there?
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/279/12/ - She's screaming and whining the whole time…
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/279/15/ - She basically discounted her own BOSS before he even fought.
Her new boss: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/279/16/
! http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/280/15/ - Her old boss is asked to join him…
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/280/16/ - She says; "Oh yeah I left you boss… Do it for me and then I can escape with my life!!"
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/280/17/ - Her old boss says: "STFU YOU BITCH!! Never leave my crew without my permission again or else you'll never be back!!" She then STFU.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/280/19/ - Her old boss tells her new boss to STFU too because of his annoying self…
! http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/281/13/ - Her old boss does this and she makes fun of him…
! http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/281/14/ - AGAIN, even though he has a great name…
! http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/281/18-19/ - her old boss fucks up her new boss and she's still doing nothing…
! After her boss was dismissed, her new boss is back on top: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/282/15/ and she has another chance to show her SH material-ship…
! She says this: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/282/17/ or "I don't wanna do it with YOU and I don't wanna be ALONE!!"
! http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/282/18/ - "Thanks to my former BOSS!! I will fight now because I was scared and pathetic…"
! So, comparing this to Perona, who had the same thing happening.
--She goes off to stop the SH crew after Moria tells her "everything" will be okay.
--She finds them and sees Usopp and such... Loses a fight.
--She is then woken up to notice the hectic crap going on. She is informed that Hogback was defeated by Oars. (Nami escaped from the snake to see Zoro and Robin get defeated along with the others by the strong enemy.) Then, Perona hears the General Zombies are beating by the same STRONG MONSTER... "Oars". Then, Oars is seen attacking through the wall and smashing up her nakama in front of her, searching for her. (Nami was in front of Enel and walked off with him.)
--Perona takes servants, gold, etc. to escape from Oars... (Nami takes her Waver -- Actually Luffy's)
--Then, Perona sees Kuma and is asked of Moria, she rejects being with him and then dares to fight him... Instead of being like Nami and basically doing that begging on her knees stuff... She at least fights for some benefit.
! So, the idea is the same; Nami betrays the SH crew. Perona "defects" from her crew... Nami left Luffy without care and she left her nakama... Perona didn't think about Moria and just left.
! Etc. Etc. Etc.
! The idea is the same.
! Yeah, but it is still true that she would have escaped without them...
! We know. However, Zoro and Nami have more say in "who" may join than it seems... If Sanji was there, then there's no way that Perona would join; especially since it is Sanji. When Sanji said to pick a woman in DBF, Luffy didn't. When Sanji said, pick a woman as a Shipwright, Luffy didn't... When Sanji said anything at all, Luffy didn't even pay attention unless it was "When's lunch?" or something.
! When Zoro said: "No Brook!!" or "No Usopp!!" or whatever, Luffy at least listens.
! When Nami says no, he at least listens to her as well... When Sanji says something, he doesn't.
! So, as long as Perona can manage to get to the spot where Luffy is there, she has a shot at joining. Can she? Yes. [Take Zoro to the ship and Rayleigh and she's got a way!!]
! Exactly.
! I disagree… It's rather technical.
! http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/442/18-19/
! Here, he accepts. So, where was the boss? There was none, he just jumped on the ship and found the guy and asked him to join…
! No "boss" to fight at all.
! There's a difference, the women have some other plot elements in their situations... So, compared to people like "Brook" who joined right away, surely you must be kidding me that this "applies" because Oda could have just gone straight to FI after that and skipped TB and all the stuff there.
! If you explain why Brook doesn't fit... then I will care to explain myself.
! Oh. I don't.
! Crocodile doesn't believe in dreams anymore... He doesn't care or show any compassion.
! On AL before Luffy heard of Ace.
! But, we are saying that a character will join like "Robin" did [Perona fans are …] because she basically joined AFTER the main "rescue" Alabasta arc and such… So, given that there should be a "reunion" portion before they head and leave towards FI, we can have a "Perona" character join this time in the story.
! Unless SH crew heads towards the war, it isn't likely that they will meet right away. So, I assume that Oda won't have the SH come to save Ace, it is because he would have skipped the whole "ID" arc since he could just get Hancock to take Luffy to SA and then have him head towards "Marineford" using their ship and such.
! Yeah, I agree that this is such an unlikely idea that a nakama joins of this arc/ saga/ series aside from Brook... However, it is something that we try to do with the thread and such. Otherwise, you'd have predictions of traits the next nakama that isn't even revealed and such.
! For instance, we would have people describing a "helmsman" character... As far as we know, that is the safest unknown we can predict and contemplate over. Other than that, there's nothing we can do about the next nakama.
! Sure, I would like a random character that looks like another to join, but I cannot just write fanfics because that character may never exist. Picking a known character is the best way to debate... Even though they seem unlikely.
! We should have "2" more since the chapter title rule applies...
! I agree that this is the most logical choice if we should be rational; no nakama. However, since we aren't on the limit, we can suspect at least two more nakama and that will allow us to at least talk discussions.
! I proved it wrong. "Sure" is an answer that says "Yes." when Brook was asked "Be my nakama..." by Luffy.
! So, "join my crew" and when he said "yes" it kicks out your pattern because you state there must be a boss prior to it, yet there wasn't one...
! Not with the females...
They have an arc or saga devoted to showing them bonding with the crew and then leaving them later.
! So, if Perona were to join, then she would stick with the SH crew for islands like "FI" and then head into the NW, however, when she is there, some person from her past comes and makes her decide to leave the crew. Then, she basically heads off and the SH crew goes to save her because they feel the same for her... Even though they know nothing about her, they still try to save her.
! For instance, Perona can be a native of the NW and could be connected to Kaidou even, hell, she could be connected to someone and have saved Moria after or looked after him and such out of agony or whatever... So, Kaidou basically is her "boss" figure that Luffy must defeat and save her from him. Why not?
! It all fits together and such, there's nothing to disprove this. Overall, it could happen and then she'd be the same as other women of the SH crew.
! Meanwhile, Hancock is different since she has two known connects: AL and Mariojoes. So, we can already predict the last enemy and it wouldn't be a surprise, however, when Perona comes to mind, we cannot predict who the enemy is since it could be anyone.
! We can just understand that Perona fits awfully well.
! Croc isn't a character that follows the same obligation to dreams and comrades.
! It's only ISLAND and WHITEBEARD on his mind, however, he is just too big to fit on the ship so we can ignore him and eliminate him that way.
! Too predictable, we never saw Arlong and CP9 coming... Perona's thing we cannot see coming either, as it can be whatever...
! There's no need to have one now... She can have one later, but if it satisfies you, what about the "object" that came in 560... Zoro might free her.
! I don't agree with the Mr. 3 thing, I think that he has some potential… Just that Perona is better since Males are RANDOM...
! Hatchi retired. Shakky retired. Rayleigh retired… If Hatchi can come back, then why not these other two... Or even Nyon?
! Mr. 2 might be dead or rescued... We can't fully care or understand, but he is logical to dismiss due to "M.I.A" from PLOT.
! Crocodile doesn't believe in dreams.
! Boa Hancock sucks at PLOT connection and has none.
! Jinbei is too fat.
! 6 or 7 would basically be at the top due to the whole thing being more likely.
! He still hates dreams and doesn't follow the concept of the other crew members. He shouldn't join with them.
! Agreed.
! Come on... You should be able to shut down anything against Perona (minus something dealing with her DF since we cannot have definite proof)... However, Patterns are easy to shut down.
! Not really... Robin had none, same with Robin when she helped defeat Buggy.
! Females are different.
! Brook joined without anything but being "cool" and such.
I say: as long as she can be in a position to basically get asked to join, she's fair game.
! That's all that is needed... After that, she can have the assistance of Oda since he even put forth the motion to put her in that position.
! That list sucks...
! Agreed... However, I have read it talked about the NW...
Agreed... She didn't have a Crocodile.
! She had a turtle like guy and then Lizard like guys were the ones that ran stuff...
! Totally missed that shit; that guy looks hella cool.
Really man… My eyes hurt by this TL:DR post.
Please mods we need a limit for the posts or I have to ignrore AGOG o_O
BTW @ AGOG
Once again… I'm suprised by your efforts... But I hope you don't comit suicide if Perona won't join after bringing all yout time into that