The execution draws near…
Chapter 549 "Ship Sailing Forth" Discussion
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The execution draws near…
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thank you very much
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Goddamn Buggy is so fucking epic. Buggy for Pirate King.
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The Jimbei thing confused me as well
We have 2 translators who clarified it pretty well. Carlos and Ulrira. That's all i need. Read cnets translation. It came later than svgs.
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If thats the case it makes more sense…since the first one wouldnt go well with the : I am, forever in your debt...(with that said he would have a hard time taking a grudge...)
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I'm really interested in the how the execution will be carried out. Cause we've seen the bit of the Pirate King's execution and security seems slack. I find the whole buggy-seen-as-mastermind a little…Lame i guess.Who ever made that assumption at Marine HQ must have been very very very horrible.
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That was a funny ass chapter. Buggy dreaming of becoming a Younkou, Oda can use this to actually make Buggy strong and keep him as Luffy's rival. Best part of the chapter though was the front page, Vegapunk old lab!!!!!!
Oh and Jinbei does care for Arlong I guess.
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I'm really interested in the how the execution will be carried out. Cause we've seen the bit of the Pirate King's execution and security seems slack. I find the whole buggy-seen-as-mastermind a little…Lame i guess.Who ever made that assumption at Marine HQ must have been very very very horrible.
I thought that the first time. But thinking about it and reading some comments in the spoiler thread i have to agree that the marines (with the informations they had before the communication of ID was destroyed) can only guess that someone with so much background has to be a mastermind. I mean everything they have in their hand points toward buggy being dangerous :)
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I just hope that soon something bad will happen to Buggy! I've always hated this kind of characters, like that idiot on DragonBall, Mr Satan.
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Without Satan Boo would have destroyed the world :) He was somehow still a hero :D
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Well im going to wait for it to be resolved, i wonder how it will end.I mean with Buggy being Oda's fav pirate i highly doubt its going to 'kill' Buggy,as much as i don't like Buggy it would probably be something big.I wonder what happened to the other crew member of the pirate king. If the marines thought Buggy was one of the mastermind, i cant imagine what the marine's would think of other renowned pirates under Gold Roger .
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Oh nice rumor theory indeed: Arlong was killed in Impel Down and thats why fat-shark Jimbei is (mad)? No way happening 'cause he is not (mad), but nice theory…
Oh and "nice" chapter, spoilers were make it look better. Again, next next week already please. End of chaptar was sweet, those stairs... damn.
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people are assuming the jinbei thing way too fast even to the point to make it seem like jinbei is gonna fight luffy (can i say fan wish list going on here).in no way did he even hint that he hates luffy or anything like that.so keep it in the pants people, keep it in the pants
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Oh nice rumor theory indeed: Arlong was killed in Impel Down and thats why fat-shark Jimbei is (mad)? No way happening, but nice theory.
JImbei isn't mad. He felt like he has to apologise to luffy about what arlong made in eastblue.
I guess that people are still confused about svgs translation? …
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Franky's mini-adventure has made me wonder–-the place he's on is called Karakuri Island, and apparently that's where Vegapunk came from. I went backed and checked the raws of the Enel mini adventure with the Spacey's, and on the one for Ch. 448, the katatana definately reads "Karakuri-jima", which is Karakuri Island. So, are these the same places? Does Vegapunk have some connection the winged pregenitors of the Bilkans, Skypieans, and Shandians? It's quite an intreguing thought at least.
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Oh man what a good chapter. Buggy's a flashy idiot though if he tries to take on Whitebeard. Anyway, poor Ace-san. He looks so sad :( made me want to cry. I hope the next chapter that comes out will be a flash back chapter of him and Luffy when they were kids. We never saw Ace-san even once in Romance Dawn and I'm curious as to where he was when Luffy was about to be eaten by the sea king and Shanks saved him.
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We have 2 translators who clarified it pretty well. Carlos and Ulrira. That's all i need. Read cnets translation. It came later than svgs.
Ah, thanks for the more accurate translation. The one at onemanga confused me a bit.
Following this version, Jimbei absolutely condemned Arlong's ways and is thankful that Luffy stopped him in his stead.
Looks like Jimbei and Arlong split up because of their views afterall. -
This chapter in my view had one of the best dialogues in One Piece. "You're a red-nosed, round-nosed, STUPID-nose if you ask me." Awesome.
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Franky's mini-adventure has made me wonder–-the place he's on is called Karakuri Island, and apparently that's where Vegapunk came from. I went backed and checked the raws of the Enel mini adventure with the Spacey's, and on the one for Ch. 448, the katatana definately reads "Karakuri-jima", which is Karakuri Island. So, are these the same places? Does Vegapunk have some connection the winged pregenitors of the Bilkans, Skypieans, and Shandians? It's quite an intreguing thought at least.
WAWA WIWA!!
That's some good stuff!! I bet he does have some relation to them.
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i'm so glad i waited it out and ignored the spoilers, good chapter.
i'm guessing jimbei knows about arlong's defeat and because of a bond he might have wanted to avenge him?
no surprise in shiryuu joining blackbeard, now onto san juan wolf basco shot etc..
i wonder what buggy will possibly do in the upcoming war, but he'll definitely manever around the opportunity and come out on top.
i'm feeling a flashback chapter for the next one.
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Two things.
First, the Jinbei for nakama ship is only going to load up with more passengers after this chapter. He agreed that his race was a violent species, and Arlong was probably one of the worst of them. Looking at all the translations, he probably felt that Arlong was counterproductive to any possible peace between the fishmen and the humans. Since Luffy took care of him, that's one less blemish on their race being accepted. His debt to Luffy continues to grow, and he hasn't even met Nami yet.
Second, the Franky cover story. There's something very specific I want to touch on because it's counter to my gut feelings. Drake mentioned that Vegapunk finally managed to replicate Kizaru's laser in to the pacifistas. This implies that Vegapunk only recently managed to create a beam. In last week's chapter, we saw two of the cyborg animals shooting beams. Putting two and two together, this means that Vegapunk has affected the island that Franky is on recently.
Other quick reactions. The stuff with Buggy was hilarious and great, but there isn't much else for me to say about it. We all saw Shiryuu joining BB since forever ago, and I thought Magellan would be a horrible match for BB back when he first showed his power. I was nervous that Oda would prove me wrong when BB showed up, but my worries were countered. Poison is rediculously powerful in the OP-verse. Everything is playing out nicely.
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How did they find out about Buggy being on Rogers ship?
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i'm so glad i waited it out and ignored the spoilers, good chapter.
i'm guessing jimbei knows about arlong's defeat and because of a bond he might have wanted to avenge him?
no surprise in shiryuu joining blackbeard, now onto san juan wolf basco shot etc..
i wonder what buggy will possibly do in the upcoming war, but he'll definitely manever around the opportunity and come out on top.
i'm feeling a flashback chapter for the next one.
Well every second post we have to tell that Jinbei hasn't a grudge against Luffy. It was a mistranslation.
He is happy that Luffy took him down and want to apologize.
I think people shouldn't read OneManga translation for this chapter.
the only question is. Why Jinbei didn't took out Arlong on his own.
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Well every second post we have to tell that Jinbei hasn't a grudge against Luffy. It was a mistranslation.
He is happy that Luffy took him down and want to apologize.
I think people shouldn't read OneManga translation for this chapter.
the only question is. Why Jinbei didn't took out Arlong on his own.
yeah just realized that. i only read the scanlation and immediately posted my opinion. :\
anyone want to take a guess at which strawhat will appear in the next coverstory? i'm thinking chopper or brooke while zoro will be last.
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Second, the Franky cover story. There's something very specific I want to touch on because it's counter to my gut feelings. Drake mentioned that Vegapunk finally managed to replicate Kizaru's laser in to the pacifistas. This implies that Vegapunk only recently managed to create a beam. In last week's chapter, we saw two of the cyborg animals shooting beams. Putting two and two together, this means that Vegapunk has affected the island that Franky is on recently.
Not necessarily. Drake said that Vegapunk recently put the lasers on the Pacifistas. The cyborg animals on Karakuri Island could be the prototypes of his research. I doubt that Vegapunk threw experimental technology onto the expensive Pacifistas, so it's obvious that he would did animal testing first.
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yeah just realized that. i only read the scanlation and immediately posted my opinion. :\
anyone want to take a guess at which strawhat will appear in the next coverstory? i'm thinking chopper or brooke while zoro will be last.
No problem
Yeah I think Zoro will be the last… :sad:
I think next one is Nami or Chopper
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Not necessarily. Drake said that Vegapunk recently put the lasers on the Pacifistas. The cyborg animals on Karakuri Island could be the prototypes of his research. I doubt that Vegapunk threw experimental technology onto the expensive Pacifistas, so it's obvious that he would did animal testing first.
You have a point there. Then let me go this route. Thanks to Drake, we know that the beam technology is based off of Kizaru's powers. It's reasonable to assume that Vegapunk was already working for the WG when Kizaru allowed Vegapunk to analyze him. This would mean that Vegapunk was still working from that island after he started working for the WG.
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You have a point there. Then let me go this route. Thanks to Drake, we know that the beam technology is based off of Kizaru's powers. It's reasonable to assume that Vegapunk was already working for the WG when Kizaru allowed Vegapunk to analyze him. This would mean that Vegapunk was still working from that island after he started working for the WG.
That's all still very plausible but I'm just a bit unsure about that as well. Drake was using the knowledge of an average OP person who knows nothing of lasers. If he sees something shooting lasers, he's going to assume that it stems from Kizaru's powers because that is where he saw it first. After rereading the Enel coverstory, the Bilkans were an alien race who built robots and had electricity over 800 years ago. They were crazy intelligent and they descended to the Blue Sea. And the doctor who recently died and built the spacey lived right there on Karakuri, probably where some of the Bilkans landed. If Vegapunk is a descendant of the Bilkans I would think that he would've figured out lasers without having to study Kizaru at all. I also doubt that the Marines would have him working outside of an official Marine Facility, for security reasons. The place Franky is at now is said to be Vegapunk's place of birth and probably has a bunch of Vegapunks early stuff and I'm sure Franky will find all types of crazy shit in there.
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I don't think tha Franky will get a beam ala Kizaru. Maybe an other cool weapon.
Other question:
But why Jinbei didn't take out Arlong on his own… -
The only question is. Why Jinbei didn't took out Arlong on his own.
Well, my guess would be that he was simply unaware of it.
Arlong was bribing marine officials in order to lay low, so there wouldn't really be any news surrounding his activities until Luffy came smashing down on him followed by his subsequent arrest.
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Is jinbei thinking of avenging arlong after they free ace?
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That's all still very plausible but I'm just a bit unsure about that as well. Drake was using the knowledge of an average OP person who knows nothing of lasers. If he sees something shooting lasers, he's going to assume that it stems from Kizaru's powers because that is where he saw it first. After rereading the Enel coverstory, the Bilkans were an alien race who built robots and had electricity over 800 years ago. That's crazy intelligent. And the doctor who recently died and built the spacey lived right there on Karakuri. I would think that Vegapunk would have figured out lasers without having to study Kizaru. I also doubt that the Marines would have him working outside of an official Marine Facility, for security reasons. The place Franky is at now is said to be Vegapunk's place of birth, I'm sure franky will find all types of crazy shit in there.
While I can't deny your logic, I have issues ignoring the things that Oda has his characters say. Until I see someone who's in the know more than Drake say otherwise, I have to assume that the Pacifista's lasers are based off of Kizaru's powers. He was just way too specific in mentioning that it was Kizaru's laser, and not something more ambiguous. You do bring sufficient doubt to the idea, though.
Is jinbei thinking of avenging arlong after they free ace?
No, it was a mistranslation, read the rest of this thread.
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Read translation from cnet or Ulrilra … It was a mistranslation
We have to say that OneManga, Binktopia and co should get rid of their versions and put a not as confusing one.
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Is jinbei thinking of avenging arlong after they free ace?
@robbybevard:
I hope this doesn't turn into another Pirate Summit where in three months people think they remember Jimbei vowing vengeance on Luffy…
Stupid OneManga and their soon as possible erroneous translations… this chapters only been up for a couple hours and this has been brought up HOW many times now already?
Oii. this could end up being headdesk worthy in a hurry if this keeps up.
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While I can't deny your logic, I have issues ignoring the things that Oda has his characters say. Until I see someone who's in the know more than Drake say otherwise, I have to assume that the Pacifista's lasers are based off of Kizaru's powers. He was just way too specific in mentioning that it was Kizaru's laser, and not something more ambiguous. You do bring sufficient doubt to the idea, though.
I know, I'm just playing around with the facts. We all know that word of mouth is strong in One Piece but it does have it's flaws. I'm just trying to figure out more about Vegapunk with the little info we have.
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@robbybevard:
Stupid OneManga and their soon as possible erroneous translations… this chapters only been up for a couple hours and this has been brought up HOW many times now already?
Oii. this could end up being headdesk worthy in a hurry if this keeps up.
FrankyHouse, Binktopia, MangaHelpers have it too :getlost:
They should delete them^^
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*Sigh…. do you have links to cnet and carlos?
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cnet translation
Jimbei: Thanks to you, I have been granted a chance to save Ace-san's life…!! I owe you a heavy debt...
Luffy: ...Oh, don't be like that. / It'd go round in circles.........! I'm just happy to have a guy like you on my side! / You really are strong, huh?!!
Jimbei: (Even aside from this whole incident...... I feel a certain amount...) // ......... // (...of gratitude... and guilt... towards you...)
Flashback!Arlong: Shahahahah!
Jimbei: (But let us put that aside... // For now, we should focus on our goal...!!Ulrilra
I think he mixed up 以前 【いぜん】 with 依然 【いぜん】. Jinbei said something more like this: _Jinbei: Even before this incident… / there's something I need to thank you and apologize to you for...
Arlong: Shahahaha!!
Jinbei: But now's not the time for that. Right now we have only one goal...!!_
Jinbei was feeling bad about Arlong and wanted to thank Luffy for taking care of him and to apologize for him since Arlong used to be a member of his crew (we'll probably learn more about Arlong later). But since they don't have much time before they reach Marine Headquarters, Jinbei decided to put that thought aside for the moment.
He seems more to be happy that Luffy take him down and and would like to apologize for Arlong
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cnet translation
Jimbei: Thanks to you, I have been granted a chance to save Ace-san's life…!! I owe you a heavy debt...
Luffy: ...Oh, don't be like that. / It'd go round in circles.........! I'm just happy to have a guy like you on my side! / You really are strong, huh?!!
Jimbei: (Even aside from this whole incident...... I feel a certain amount...) // ......... // (...of gratitude... and guilt... towards you...)
Flashback!Arlong: Shahahahah!
Jimbei: (But let us put that aside... // For now, we should focus on our goal...!!Thanks….................. ^^
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No problem. We have to stop the misunderstanding.
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Oh did anyone notice Blackbeard shirtless? That's gonna really get him some fangirl votes in the tournament.
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Hmmm… so how are they gonna open the gates of justice now?
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"let's set out to sea one day, and live life the way with more freedom than anyone else!" spoken like a true pirate :cwy:
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I think that the way this chapter ended, will lead into a flashback of Ace's and Luffy's past. Does anyone else agree?
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Hmmm… so how are they gonna open the gate of justice now?
Zoro will open the Gates of Justice at the Marine Headquarters. I see the possible because Peronas aim is to meet Moria again and he is in Marineford to fight Whitebeard.
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So the only thing that really poked my interest int his chapter was quick Arlong flash back.
Which means AFTER all of this is over we will see Luffy vs fish man, PART
I also believe that there will be a flash back with Ace and Luffy, now whether it's in two weeks when
the series returns or three I just know it's coming soon. -
Somebody email Onemanga before this whole Jimbei crap evolve into the second "Pirate Summit" myth.
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So the only thing that really poked my interest int his chapter was quick Arlong flash back.
Which means AFTER all of this is over we will see Luffy vs fish man, PART 2
This is getting worse than Haki.
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Zoro will open the Gates of Justice at the Marine Headquarters. I see the possible because Peronas aim is to meet Moria again and he is in Marineford to fight Whitebeard.
O.O Zoro??? Isnt the Gates made out of Kairoseki? I dont think Zoro can cut it yet…. or arrived their at the same time as Luffy and the rest of the escaped prisoners.... :ermm: