I'd love to have Paulie as the new crew member (or both Frnaky and Paulie, that'd be better). THe humour created by Pauly bitching about Nami wearing next to nothing with Sanji trying to get her to wear less would be great. Sanji and Paulie would wind each other up so much that it'd be great havin him as the next strawe-hat. Just cause the straw hats have only taken on one new member at a time doesn't mean that they won't take both Paulie and Franky.
Chapter 372 "Parage" Discussion
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Everyone says that'd be hilarious, but it'd get really old after the first two or three times.
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Oh.. what if the strawhats get an uber ship that requires lots of handling? HA. I see the need for more HANDS. More skilled HANDS.
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I see the need for more HANDS. More skilled HANDS.
Robin's got that covered :lol:
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Nice pun. XD
but it's unlikely 2 will join anyway.
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i find it almost impossible for Usopp to have a Reject dial with him… they were "extinct" in Skypiea. wiper prolly had the last one.
very very very nice chapter. Wanze is not so crazy... he tried to unbalance sanji by making acusations to Robin, still the power gap was too big. now Sanji is most likely screwed unless he somehows pretends to be Wanze while Corgi is with Robin or the RocketMan bashes right before he gets his ass handed to self.
and related to nakama-Franky. I think it's very plausible and i also see the Franky Family getting killed. They are weak, really weak like... chipmonkeys. This would give Franky a reason to leave water7. As to Pauly i think it's highly unlikely since W7 still needs reconstruction and all his friends (maybe even family) are there, and this whole debt thing doesn't convince me at all.... he has a respect to Iceburg close to the one Luffy has on Shanks. I doubt he would say "ok, the city is a mess aqua laguna is getting worse and worse so i'm going overseas and well... cya".
BTW: i really don't care wich one will be the crewmember. Both will be hilarious but i think Franky will be a lot more fun. Just look at him. And this whole shameless thing with Pauly would become boring in 2-3 times
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Originally posted by d3adpool@Jun 25 2005, 01:05 AM
**i find it almost impossible for Usopp to have a Reject dial with him… they were "extinct" in Skypiea. wiper prolly had the last one.very very very nice chapter. Wanze is not so crazy... he tried to unbalance sanji by making acusations to Robin, still the power gap was too big. now Sanji is most likely screwed unless he somehows pretends to be Wanze while Corgi is with Robin or the RocketMan bashes right before he gets his ass handed to self.
[snapback]76089[/snapback]**well, he might very well have a reject dial but i do not think he will use it. since he is already not in good shape. unless he "sacrifices" himself for robin. maybe he pops it out and blast lucci or something like that.
the likelihood of the rocketman bashing into the train now is damn high. i dun think oda will want sanji getting raped by 4 CP9 fellas. we need some luffy action already!
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i finally read this chapter, i cant wait to see what happens to Sanji next chapter. And i cant wait for the outcome of Franky vs. Nero. sigh
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Originally posted by d3adpool@Jun 24 2005, 12:05 PM
And this whole shameless thing with Pauly would become boring in 2-3 times
[snapback]76089[/snapback]Nah.. the whole Sanji being a womanizer, Luffy being stupid and Usopp being a coward never got boring either :)
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Well, that's because they don't criticize anyone. Really, Robin isn't one to be yelled at. :P
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Originally posted by d3adpool@Jun 24 2005, 10:05 AM
As to Pauly i think it's highly unlikely since W7 still needs reconstruction and all his friends (maybe even family) are there, and this whole debt thing doesn't convince me at all…. he has a respect to Iceburg close to the one Luffy has on Shanks. I doubt he would say "ok, the city is a mess aqua laguna is getting worse and worse so i'm going overseas and well... cya".
[snapback]76089[/snapback]Gee, that still sounds an awful lot like someone else people are vying for :P You think someone like Franky - who nearly died to get revenge on the guy who fiddled with Water Seven and Tom - is just going to sail away after all of that cheerfully and not lend a hand himself as well ? O_o 'Sides, Sanji left Zeff (who we all know he owes his life to) after the Baratie was pretty much toasted by the GM's cannon and Krieg. Still like Sanji's chances of being a crewmember ? :lol:
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But as Mandrake pointed out to me the other night, I don't think he'll join because of who they cast as his voice actor. It's the same guy who already does Jango and Bon Clay, so I doubt they'd go and make him a permanent part of the crew. No one else's VA has large reoccurring parts like that, probably for a reason (it'd be too confusing). So yeah, I don't think so.
You have a point, and I mentioned something like that to someone before too, but it's not a definate thing. I don't know if the animation team know who the next crewmember is going to be or not. But it's entirely possible that they just decided they liked Yao as Franky, and that he deserved a more permenant role. I wouldn't really let the anime be the place to look for evidence.
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maybe will it be iceburg himself that will tell paulie to join the straw hats for whatever reason.
and what if usopp upgraded franky with dials, too!?
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I don't think Franky needs an upgrade. ^^
But what if Franky helped Usopp with his dial upgrades? :)
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Doesn't Oda help pick the voices himself? I heard that somewhere.
Even so, the end of Alabasta had Jango and Bon Clay at the same time. Of course, Jango was pretty silent at the time, but you get the idea… it's not something that we can say completely rules out Franky.
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Doesn't Oda help pick the voices himself? I heard that somewhere.
That would be news to me. And do you mean just the main characters? I have a hard time seeing Oda picking out each and every voice for every character, I don't think he has the time for that. It's more likely that he gives a "ye" or "ne" for the major roles.
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Damn, Franky rules. If he doesn't join I will eat my hat.
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This chapter has me even more curious about Robin's past. I don't think Wanze was just making stuff up. I feel another flashback in the not-so-distant- future…
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Originally posted by CosmicDebris@Jun 24 2005, 01:54 PM
**> Doesn't Oda help pick the voices himself? I heard that somewhere.That would be news to me. And do you mean just the main characters? I have a hard time seeing Oda picking out each and every voice for every character, I don't think he has the time for that. It's more likely that he gives a "ye" or "ne" for the major roles.
[snapback]76167[/snapback]**Yeah, I guess ye's and ne's for major characters are what I meant. I consider Franky a pretty major role… we got a lengthy flashback for him and he's (at the moment) what I like to consider a temporary crewmember. So I think he's somebody that deserves Oda's thumbs-up when it comes to his voice.
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Originally posted by d3adpool@Jun 24 2005, 01:05 PM
very very very nice chapter. Wanze is not so crazy… he tried to unbalance sanji by making acusations to Robin, still the power gap was too big. now Sanji is most likely screwed unless he somehows pretends to be Wanze while Corgi is with RobinI don't think that was Wanze's goal; judging by the way that people, especially members of the World Government, talk about her, I think he was genuinely terrified that she might escape and was deadly serious in his attempt to keep Sanji from rescuing her.
Most of what he said about Robin echoes what Aokiji told them back on Longringlongland.
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Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@Jun 24 2005, 06:17 PM
**> I see the need for more HANDS. More skilled HANDS.Robin's got that covered :lol:
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No comments.
Kinai.
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Originally posted by Atheist_God@Jun 24 2005, 05:35 PM
I'd love to have Paulie as the new crew member (or both Frnaky and Paulie, that'd be better). THe humour created by Pauly bitching about Nami wearing next to nothing with Sanji trying to get her to wear less would be great. Sanji and Paulie would wind each other up so much that it'd be great havin him as the next strawe-hat. Just cause the straw hats have only taken on one new member at a time doesn't mean that they won't take both Paulie and Franky.
[snapback]76043[/snapback]I think that Paulie would be the next crew member.
Kinai.
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Originally posted by Cap'n Carter@Jun 24 2005, 11:46 PM
Everyone says that'd be hilarious, but it'd get really old after the first two or three times.
[snapback]76051[/snapback]Yeh, I agree with that. I'd think Pauly's gambling woes would be a much better outlet for hilarity. Then him being prude & righteous all the time.
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this was a good chapter, it speeded things up a bit
paulie sucks in comparison to franky, sure his interactions with sanji&nami would be funny but after awhile it would get old
whereas as franky is a robot, his interactions with the crew would be much funnier i think, besides franky is a real unique character in one piece whereas paulie is a normal person who fights with ropes
if paulie is the new crew member that would suck, after all the buildup and time franky has gotten during this arc it would be a complete waste not to make him the next crew member
and as for the next chapter, i think sanji will try and impersonate wanze but cp9 will see right through him and he will get beaten up real fast just like luffy&zoro did, and then usopp will try and get robin to escape and they will get caught on top of the train by cp9 and they will all get beaten up and recaptured so luffy can save them all
also, if usopp does convince robin to escape where are they going to go? they are on a train in the middle of a choppy ocean that will drown them and they are headed to eneas lobby, so even if they do escape they have nowhere to run and will get recaptured
and i swear to god, if they introduce even 1 new character when they get to eneas lobby i will be pissed, this arc has already been going on for a long time and there is no need to drag it out further than its already been drug out
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this arc is definitely not being dragged out..like in the beginning..i was SOMEWHAT bored..but after they started the "arlong park walk" to franky's house..i was mad hooked and i find this storyline much more entertaining than sky piea..so i dont feel it dragged out at all..and the story is much more serious and darker which i enjoy..and i do think franky will be the new memebr also
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i may be the only one who finds it annoying that franky just keeps getting new and freakier abilities,
i want my characters to have limitations and i wanna know basicly what they are capabel of like that for example ruffy can stretch,but with franky you never know what kinda crazy shit he will pull outta his ass like his recent centaur-transformation <_<
but it was a great chapter cause finaly wanze got his ass kicked he even got kicked thru 2 whole train cars :)
and even thought i would rather see Paulie than franky as the new crewmember i think its pretty inevetible that franky joins unless he gets killed or something(you can always hope :P ) -
meh, i'm still wagering my donuts on no new crewmember, but franky will be building the new ship for the new pirate king (luffy that is), just like tom did for roger.
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sure his interactions with sanji&nami would be funny but after awhile it would get old
that's what i thought when i 1st saw sanji acting all romantic and perverted around women. but has that gotten old? paulie also has that gambling problem and it'd be funny to see him lose a craplode of money (well, if he has any) to nami. plus he's in debt and he's got nowhere else to go if he doesn't join.
i said it before and i'll say it again; IF the strawhats get a new ship that's massive, they'll need more than one person to manage it. so they can have both paulie and franky. also you have to remember that this arc isn't finished yet, or anywhere near finished so paulie may still have his "buildup moments" as well sooner or later. i have a strong feeling they might both join, who knows. i don't care as long as paulie's in:P.
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I dunno, I think this is all pointing towards Franky not joining. Franky has one thing none of the other straw hats have ever relaly seemed to have. A glaring weakness any enemy can exploit, shoudl they figure it out.
Granted, DF users can't swim, Luffy's not the brightest bulb around sometmies, and Usopp & Nami don't ahve raw physical strength. But when they seriously fight this hasn't been a major hinderance. Franky's back problems however, are too exploitable a weakness for me to think Franky'll wind up on the crew and is more likely to be a one-arc and likely side-story character.
But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
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Originally posted by sgamer82@Jun 25 2005, 01:10 PM
I dunno, I think this is all pointing towards Franky not joining. Franky has one thing none of the other straw hats have ever relaly seemed to have. A glaring weakness any enemy can exploit, shoudl they figure it out.
[snapback]76434[/snapback]Luffy's weakness to sharp objects is kinda big.
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True, but int he end it's no greater than anybody else's weakness to sharp objects, is it? It's just that in Luffy's case it's the main way to hurt him, because his rubber body makes blunt force ineffective.
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And Franky's weak backside is also something found in everyone else. Zoro had "bitch" written all over him when Mihawk gave him that karate chop. So did Mikazuki when he got hit by the log.
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I'd think his weakness gives him a more human feel. It would sort of suck for him to join and be like this overpowered, impenetrable fortress who'd just lay waste to his opponents all the time. But he does have a major vulnerability, which is obviously a big concern for him or he wouldn't have to take such drastic counter measures.
So I think a sign of weakness would be more of a plus in the direction of becoming a Strawhat, rather than a minus.
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Well, I'm still a bit unsure. Currently I'm in the Paulie camp myself.
Still, no way to know until Oda lets us in on it.
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I'm rooting for Paulie as well. Simply because of Luffy and his talk when back at Water 7. They have the same view points. Even though we now nothing about Paulie and everything about Franky I think it can happen.
I never though Nico Robin would join the crew. I always figured it would be Vivi even though she wouldn't make a good pirate to me.
I defintely think Franky will make the new ship for them though. Just because they have been such a big help to everyone.
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Maybe…. one of the CP9 has a really moving backstory explaining why he/she has been forced to join CP9 (a bit like vivi and baroque works) so it'll end up being one them (not Lucci) that joins the crew! Somewhat of a stretch yes, but possible..
My bet is still: Paulie joins, Franky builds the new ship. (the ship is probably already being made somewhere with the 200 mil beli)
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Pwnage.
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i like that idea but i still think that the galley-la people and the franky family will work together to build the new ship.
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i may be the only one who finds it annoying that franky just keeps getting new and freakier abilities,
i want my characters to have limitations and i wanna know basicly what they are capabel of like that for example ruffy can stretch,Franky has two huge weaknesses. Power AND his back. He's far from limitless.
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Originally posted by sgamer82@Jun 25 2005, 05:10 AM
I dunno, I think this is all pointing towards Franky not joining. Franky has one thing none of the other straw hats have ever relaly seemed to have. A glaring weakness any enemy can exploit, shoudl they figure it out.
[snapback]76434[/snapback]Isn´t the whole point of having a weakness that you have to work hard on yourself to be able to surpass your enemy with it? I mean if Franky would have no weakness then he would be the ultimate fighting machine. Wouldn´t he be kind of boring then?
I mean look at in what a mess all the Strawhats were after their big fights in Alabasta or at Skypiea. Escpecially in Alabasta all of them fought hard and went over their limits and that´s what made it interesting. If they´d all be almost invinceble then all those fights would have been boring.Besides, Franky doesn´t have a weak back he just has a human back. That actually just makes him able to feel pain there. I mean look at what hits Usopp has taken in all the arcs so far and he´s still alive. And I seriously doubt that Franky´s back is more fragile then Usopps or any other Strawhat´s body.
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Well Oda-sama has never let us down in his storytelling, has he? I trust whatever and whoever comes of this will end up making all of us happy.
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Originally posted by CHiZZoPs@Jun 25 2005, 08:38 AM
Well Oda-sama has never let us down in his storytelling, has he? I trust whatever and whoever comes of this will end up making all of us happy.
[snapback]76652[/snapback]I think he did in the Foxy Arc. Not to say it wasn't good or anything, it just doesn't prove to be useful at all. I did like Luffy's design then, but I though it was a weak arc.
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Technically, all of the Strawhats have weakness.
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Except for the manly USOPP.
And well, technically, everybody in the series has some kind of weakness. What annoys me about Franky is how his (Two) weaknesses are pretty much set in stone, with hardly any variation offered.
That's what annoys me about Franky's fighting in general, actually. I just don't like the fact he's a cyborg, because it makes all his battles depend entirely on what ''functions'' he's had installed, rather than his very own capabilities and spirit.
It's not a very big deal, since I could still very well see Franky joining the crew, but that and his supposed weaknesses both irk me. Overall, I'm siding with e1n in guessing no one will join, though I'd personally be very happy with either.
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What do you mean by variation? There's no variation to Luffy's weakness.
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I've been thinking alot of the Paulie vs Franky debate and.. All the strawhatts looks almost like normal persons except Chopper that looks almost like a normal Reeinder in his real form of course, and his like the strawhattts pet. But Franky, his arms and his whole face and hair is just screwed up.. XD Somehow I can't see him in a color pread or anything like that..
And one more thing, everyone has like a specialty when it comes to fightning,, Luffy strecthing, Zoro cutting and so on, while Franky can do all crazy stuff..
Who has Paulies voice?
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Originally posted by Mog@Jun 25 2005, 08:48 AM
**Except for the manly USOPP.That's what annoys me about Franky's fighting in general, actually. I just don't like the fact he's a cyborg, because it makes all his battles depend entirely on what ''functions'' he's had installed, rather than his very own capabilities and spirit.**
That's absurd. That's like saying I don't like Usopp because all his fights depend on whatever ammo for his slingshot and dials he has with him at the time and not on his capabilities and spirit. What I just said is BS just like what you said is BS. Whether one fights with swords, slingshot ammo or cyborg abilities, it takes cunning to pick the right attack at the right time as well as skill to execute it properly. Franky's attacks don't happen automatically with a 100% guaranteed success rate. Franky also has a human brain and is still capable of human thoughts and emotion, so in a situation where he is pushed to his limits he is full well and capable of showing the same spirit any of the other Strawhats do.
I've been thinking alot of the Paulie vs Franky debate and.. All the strawhatts looks almost like normal persons except Chopper that looks almost like a normal Reeinder in his real form of course, and his like the strawhattts pet. But Franky, his arms and his whole face and hair is just screwed up.. XD Somehow I can't see him in a color pread or anything like that..
In a world where we have normal humans that look like Wanze, T-bone and some of the Franky Family members, the only thing that really stands out about Franky's appearance is his nose.
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Originally posted by Luffy1Piece@Jun 25 2005, 12:01 PM
**> I've been thinking alot of the Paulie vs Franky debate and.. All the strawhatts looks almost like normal persons except Chopper that looks almost like a normal Reeinder in his real form of course, and his like the strawhattts pet. But Franky, his arms and his whole face and hair is just screwed up.. XD Somehow I can't see him in a color pread or anything like that..In a world where we have normal humans that look like Wanze, T-bone and some of the Franky Family members, the only thing that really stands out about Franky's appearance is his nose.
[snapback]76795[/snapback]**Well, Wanze aand T-Bone isnt strawhatts and i meant normal persons in our world, not OP world.
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Usopp's nose is impossible.
Originally posted by Solid@Jun 26 2005, 02:01 AM
I've been thinking alot of the Paulie vs Franky debate and.. All the strawhatts looks almost like normal persons except Chopper that looks almost like a normal Reeinder in his real form of course, and his like the strawhattts pet. But Franky, his arms and his whole face and hair is just screwed up.. XD Somehow I can't see him in a color pread or anything like that..Well, Sanji was already Franky-styled in the 335 spread. And for a guy who had the Straw Hats rocking out with colored monster fish in one spread, Franky isn't too much of a stretch.
And one more thing, everyone has like a specialty when it comes to fightning,, Luffy strecthing, Zoro cutting and so on, while Franky can do all crazy stuff..
Again, I'll use Usopp as an example. Nami as well this time.
Who has Paulies voice?
[snapback]76794[/snapback]Yoshimizu Takahiro. Heard of him? :P He was Xu Zhu and Zhou Yu in the Dynasty Warriors series.
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Who says major characters can't have the same voice actor? Several Dragonball characters share voice actors.