luffy will probably have his ten man crew b4 he reaches the new world
Next Crew Member Speculation (Ver 3.0)
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Okay, I first need to vent that for some strange reason, I love Mr. 2 and would be absolutely giddy if he were to join the crew, but he's not really involved with this arc at the moment, so my two main possibilities were Hancock and Buggy.
Hancock seemed likely, simply for the fact that she somehow managed to fall in love with Luffy, which still gives me lulz, but that really seems like the only reason for her joining, at least to me. Though I can see a possibility of a Shichibukai joining the crew at this point, Hancock doesn't seem likely. As I saw someone point out a few pages back when I was skimming through some of the posts, she wouldn't want to endanger her homeland.
Buggy is my most likely candidate at the moment. I know it's probably more logical to look at what the real person behind all this might be thinking, but I'm getting into Luffy's brain here. This is the guy that cared about getting a musician more than a doctor. I'm almost 100% positive he's gonna want his "jester" more than he'd want Hancock.
And that's pretty much a sum-up of my two cents, there. Though, knowing Oda, I'm sure he's got plenty more curveballs he's gonna throw at us =)
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Margaret and Perona should join.
Are you me?
Let's see ahhhhmmmm in this arc…..
Next nakama rankings:
1. Hancock
2. Buggy
3. Jinbei - it's our first time seeing him that's why he's on third
4. Mr.2
5. mr.3
6. Croc - he may join; hehe poor robin
7. mr.1
8. other
9. mystery beast on the LVL 6 of ID
10. tie bet. perona and margeeHere's my take on the same candidates. Based on likelyhood and not desire:
1. Hancock
2. Mr.2 (This guy's been likely since Alabasta)
3. mr.3 (Just because he used the word "join". lol)
4. other
5. Buggy (He's obviously still evil)
6. tie bet. Perona and Margee
7. mystery beast on the LVL 6 of ID (What?)
8. Jinbei (We don't know enough about him yet)
9. mr.1 (No reason. I just don't see him joining)
10. Croc - he may join; hehe poor robin (He wouldn't want to)Though, I could see several of the above joining at the same time. If Oda want's a big crew for Luffy, but knows it won't work to introduce ten new characters and make all interesting, the best bet would be using old characters that we already know. ^^
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mr 3 for nakama…..........
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hannybal and magellan for nakama
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main reasons i want jinbei to join
1. he's a fishman
2. he's obviously very powerful
3. if he joins we'll probably get a flashback of the young arlong and crew and get to see fisher tiger also (tiger was probably his mentor and when he died everything was crushed, he had a fight with arlong and crew, split up, etc… seems sad enoughthing's holding him back are
1. he's probably stronger or as strong as luffy
2. he's a shichibukai
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you might add that he probably already knows a lot about the sea. Seriously i can't see him joking with luffy on an island in the NW. If jimbei joins then oda must make hancock join the crew…
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If he joins we'll probably get a flashback of the young Arlong and crew and get to see Fisher Tiger also. Seems sad enough.
Not to mention he was likely a slave at one point. Maybe not, but I would assume so.
He's probably stronger or as strong as Luffy [and] he's a Shichibukai.
He's not really a Shichibukai anymore though. Four days ago he said he was willing to lose his status, and now he is still in prison and said that he doesn't care if he doesn't have it. His bounty is lower than Luffy's, and while that doesn't necessarily mean one way or another the fact that he was caught and imprisoned makes me think – if anything -- he is about the same level of strength as Luffy/Zoro/Sanji. Or at least Luffy/Zoro.
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but jimbei was already a famous pirate. no way he or hancock will join thier too strong. whats gonna be jimbeis dream or hancocks
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They might not be a "Yonkou" level threat yet, but they easily have the same level of infamy as any (or most) of the Shichibukai.
Not to me even with those examples. A shichibukai easily has more infamy than any SN despite how much they've been in the news. The level of infamy a shichibukai is almost equal to a yonkou's. The SHS have a long way to go that's one of the things the whole SA arc stressed.
Having one of the last ones join his ranks – the last introduced, to boot -- because he lost his title, was stuck in prison, and still had goals to accomplish makes good sense and good timing, and adds to the fame and influence that "Straw Hat" Luffy has.
I disagree, it'd all be the same if he simply made an ally of Jinbei.
but can you really say for a fact that someone will not join because it wouldn't follow your loose interpretation of a fan-speculated formula for crew member prerequisites?
Yea, I wouldn't have brought it up otherwise.
The Shichibukai might have years of infamy and fear behind them, but the Strawhats have a ridiculously huge combined bounty – everyone on the crew has a bounty -- with two members over 100mil.
You say that like the combined bounty of the shichi is not more or if having a former bounty of over a 100 mil is uncommon for some of them.
I'm not saying that he is more scary or more renowned, just that in any given place he is – as far as we know -- just as likely to be recognized as any Shichibukai, if not feared as well.
LOL this is what exactly what I was saying maybe I shouldn't have used recognizable and the only time I remember Luffy kinda being feared was in Mocktown and it defintiely wasn't on the scale of when Mihawk was introduced or Moria or Kuma or Hancock or Crocodile.
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god just imagine it…........the sh pirates with two ex-shichibukai on the crew
they would be one of the strongest crews around.........
the only drawback is...............well...........it would ruin the story! , as the implications of having them in the crew are obvious
croc - defeated
moria - defeated
bb - still a threat
doflamingo - still a threat
kuma - wont see them again? apparently
jimbei - in the crew
mihawk - isnt too much of a threat.......as he's zoro's final goal
hancock - in the crewso if that's how it worked out then the only true threats are bb and doflamingo, which would tip the balance of power...........resulting in a possible breakdown of the world government
this is why i see them joining as a bad idea, its too early to have instability as there's too much plot build-up to remove the government from being a BIG threat
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if you think about it the next big threat could be dragon cause i could see him eliminating the WG power and become a person with too much power that decides to become a dictator or some shit like that. a luke skywalker and darth vador type thing.
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@Zik: A little too long for my taste, so I'm gonna hide it;
[hide]@Zik:
Yea, I wouldn't have brought it up otherwise.
Typically, given this type of statement, I know I should just stop talking. But for the hell of it, I will respond anyway.
@Zik:
Not to me even with those examples. A Shichibukai easily has more infamy than any SN despite how much they've been in the news. The level of infamy a Shichibukai is almost equal to a Yonkou's. The SHS have a long way to go that's one of the things the whole SA arc stressed.
Everyone is free to have their own opinion, which you are making clear, but as I stated in my last post it doesn't really change anything just because you choose not see it. We don't know that much of the world of One Piece; only what we see from the Strawhat's perspective. Outside of that, we have to think like people in the story and think from a stories progressing state. Not think like "readers". Fans build up this image in their head that the Shichibukai are this terrible force to be reckoned with, and yadda-yadda-yadda. As time went on though, we saw that name mean less and less to the crew. Sure, it still held ground and caution, but it wasn't like they were freaking out. Moria is a perfect example of where they just shrugged the information off like it was no big deal. When first introduced, they seemed almost godly and untouchable. It didn't help that our first enemy of the Shichibukai was a logia, but that all faded as they – Moria and Croc -- were defeated. Look at your own logic: The Strawhat pirates might be on the headlines left and right, have a huge collective bounty (with everyone on board having one), have declared war against the World Government (something no one has done), and taken down a Shichibukai, but they are not the same level of infamy as any single Shichibukai out there. Ok…? So Luffy takes out two Shichibukai, but he isn't worthy of the same level of infamy? And it's not like that was Luffy's only reason for a bounty. Next, contrary to your opinions about Luffy's infamy, you seem to think the Shichibukai deserve a relatively similar level of infamy to the Yonkou. How does that work? Luffy, who took down two Shichibukai and has a bounty that trumps a majority of the existing Shichibukai, is not worthy of the same level of infamy as the Shichibukai, but the Shichibukai are worth the same level of infamy as the top four pirate crews in the world who are so powerful they live like kings in the New World? Flawed, to say the least. Remember, the Shichibukai are not the endgame top of the world enemies. If they were, why would almost all of them have been introduced or fought before the New World? I'm not saying a few of them aren't endgame opponents (Blackbeard and Mihawk), but it is quite clear that they all vary in strength and were just fairly big-named pirates that were invited to ally with the WG, with their roles varying from "half-way mark" to "final boss". Which is exactly why I could see them approaching Luffy for an open position were this a different story. It's the "name" Shichibukai that holds the fear and infamy, and the pirate behind it that adds to it. Luffy already equals that – or should -- due to his accomplishments. The story should make that obvious. The events at SA were meant to show that the SHP's have a long way to go in the world, and not in comparison to any specific category. By your examples, the Shichibukai have a long way to go because Luffy took down two….
@Zik:
You say that like the combined bounty of the shichi is not more or if having a former bounty of over a 100 mil is uncommon for some of them.
The Shichibukai are not a pirate crew. That's like comparing the combined bounties of the Yonkou to the single crew of the Strawhats. What I am saying is that the Marines thought that the Strawhats were a large threat, so they gave everyone on the crew a bounty. Something that is very rare (we are led to believe) according to their comment about it. On top of that, the Captain's bounty is one of the highest we have seen. Only 40mil short of the highest to date.
@Zik:
LOL this is what exactly what I was saying maybe I shouldn't have used recognizable and the only time I remember Luffy kinda being feared was in Mocktown and it definitely wasn't on the scale of when Mihawk was introduced or Moria or Kuma or Hancock or Crocodile.
I'm not sure I understand. What should you have used? Appearance, bounty, infamy, and any other thing are all fairly equal to what the Strawhats have NOW. Not 200 chapters ago at Mocktown, NOW. You have to understand that you cannot compare characters based off your reaction to characters who were built up off screen. Like I said, as readers, we had this high esteem for any and all Shichibukai before they were introduced. We were excited to see them all and to have names and faces to the all-encompassing title. However, that was only because we are the readers. From a story's point of view, that scary and foreboding eminence has been slowly dissipating as the SHP's have either challenged and defeated, allied with, or been acknowledged by just about all of the Shichibukai met to date. Not to mention I would argue that the introduction of the Supernova was much more powerful and of a larger scale than Moria and Hancock. Mihawk was the first introduced and the World's Greatest Swordsman. Crocodile was the second introduced, as well as the first major enemy Shichibukai so you cannot compare either to Luffy right now. And again, that is all the readers reaction. Yes, the crew reacted much the same, but that was a long time ago and that wall has been taken down as time has gone by. The crew didn't even care when they learned about Moria. Well, Chopper and Usopp were scared, but no surprise there.
- Mihawk: Acknowledged Zoro's resolve and ability.
- Crocodile: Challenged and defeated.
- Blackbeard: Acknowledged Luffy and Zoro's resolve and Luffy's "Ambition".
- Moria: Challenged and defeated.
- Kuma: Acknowledged the crew's infamy and status. Acknowledged Zoro's resolve and power. Neutral ally – seemingly.
- Hancock: Allied with Luffy, worships Luffy, and acknowledges Luffy's strength.
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god just imagine it…........the sh pirates with two ex-shichibukai on the crew
they would be one of the strongest crews around.........
To me that would just ruin the crew imo, Luffy's not necessarily lookin for super strong nakama. It'd help but I'd rather a nobody making his way up the ladder like everyone else that happens to be very strong from on a base lvl.
I'm not sure I understand. What should you have used?
Renown, fear, and infamy is what I should've used all areas imo any shichi and the Shs have a huge gap. Like I said itts my opinion that the shichi's infamy is closer to a yonkou's than it is to a SH's. I'm not gonna read the rest of ya post now, doesn't seem worth it at the moment.
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@Zik:
To me that would just ruin the crew imo, Luffy's not necessarily lookin for super strong nakama. It'd help but I'd rather a nobody making his way up the ladder like everyone else that happens to be very strong from on a base lvl.
Renown, fear, and infamy is what I should've used all areas imo any shichi and the Shs have a huge gap. Like I said itts my opinion that the shichi's infamy is closer to a yonkou's than it is to a SH's. I'm not gonna read the rest of ya post now, doesn't seem worth it at the moment.i dont get it? are you agreeing with me or not?
i stated it would be rubbish to have a shichibukai in the crew as it would destabilise the story…........and ruin itdont you agree
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If Hancock joined Sanji would die from being turned to stone all the time and then Luffy having to convince Hancock to turn him back.
Out of all the characters in this arc, I think Kurei has the biggest chance of joining, if anyone does. His Bounty (32,000,000, If I recall correctly) puts him just in the Mid Tier, just below Franky and Just above Usopp's Bounty.
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mr.2 would serve no purpose and i cnt see him having a back story as a ballerina. Margaret is perfect because she is strong and she will be the one to teach the whole crew about haki and how to use it next two crewmembers will be margeret and a merman not jimbei because he's already famous so theirs no fun if your not going up the ladder with the strawhats.
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not jimbei because he's already famous so theirs no fun if your not going up the ladder with the strawhats.
The rest of the post was pretty retarded, but I'm with ya here.
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Well its going to be BuggyBut i want Ace or Rayleigh to join
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@Monkey:
Well its going to be BuggyBut i want Ace or Rayleigh to join
I feel a need to make a response to this post. I don't know what to say, but I will respond to it.
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why oh why would you do that, zkaiser. I would've let that just fly by into oblivion.
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jinbei 4 SH crew
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No. Stop that .
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Maybe Hancock falls in love with Jinbei and they start their own crew ….
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BREAKING NEWS: GOL D ROGER RETURNS FROM THE GRAVE AND JOINS THE STRAWHATS?
…. Yeah, but Rayleigh sounds good enough too.
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No Buggy, no Ace, no Jinberi… Ace isn't the kind of guy who leaves the man who he calls father, and joins his li'll' brother. Buggy hates men like Luffy and Shanks, and he isn't so stupid, that he'd join his enemy. No, I want Buggy to be one of the last fights of Luffy. For Jinbei, I think it is too early to even hope he'd join... Hancock could be possible, but we some of the points strawhat-pirate needs are missing...
Hancocks dream is propably to get Luffy like her, or help Luffy to make his dream come true
Hancock has a interesting devil fruit
Hancock is weird enough to join
But what would she do at the ship? Everyone else has a job [Luffy: Captain, Zoro: Warrior (some say 1:st mate), Nami: nacigator/thief, Usopp: sharpshooter, Sanji: Chief, Chopper: Doctor, Robin: archeologist, Franky: shipcarpenter, Brooke: Musican) -
if anyone from impel down joins then i think the most likely person would be mr 3
reasons;
1. he wouldnt overshadow the crew…........like jimbei, hancock, ace......etc
2. he's been re-introduced to the story, so he must have some importance in the story
3. his terrible jokes suit the crew like a glove
4. he might be able to coat the ship in wax to get to fishman islands if they escape
5. he's strong enough to beat two bounties at $100,000,000cons
1. coating the ship is pushing it i have to admit
2.we already have one of crocs old crew members in the crew (robin)
3. we havnt enough information on him to make a well based decision yetbut....................Mr.3 for nakama
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^Weren't the terrible jokes a trait 4kids gave him because they didn't want him to be so sadistic?
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^Weren't the terrible jokes a trait 4kids gave him because they didn't want him to be so sadistic?
The jokes were due to his speech pattern. He–- no, I recently saw Greg explain it much better:
[hide]@Greg:
It's a small joke in Japanese that stephen has faithfully stuck with and gone to great creative lengths to keep in English. He tends to end sentences with 'gane' which could be interpreted as what he loves most, money or 'kane' ('k' sounds often get softened to 'g' sounds in larger words) which is really easy to use in Japanese since it just sounds like he's saying, 'XXXXXXXX money. XXXXXXXXX money' but in Japanese thanks to accents and whatnot it also sounds like there COULD be an accent like that. Hard to explain. It doesn't MEAN anything or directly translate to anything but it sounds like someone somewhere could say in their local accent.
Anyway, stephen laces all of his lines with puns relating to wealth or money to convey this. I got a chuckle thinking of his reaction when his face popped up.
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mr.3? how can he coat a whole ship with his wax? it will sunk and the ship is uncontrollable just imagine Sunny coated like a ball xD
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mr.3? how can he coat a whole ship with his wax? it will sunk and the ship is uncontrollable just imagine Sunny coated like a ball xD
Isn't the whole point of coating the ship to get down to fishman Island? Although since it lacks the special properties of the goo (or whatever) from SA it is still most likely a terrible idea… especially since they can't see out of it, and that the wax balls seems to float? At least that what i think Mr3s ball did when he saved himself from the crocs at rain diners.
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^ yeah you're right but i mean it's hard to manage being coated by wax. and i think it's already coated by rayleigh
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mr.3? how can he coat a whole ship with his wax? it will sunk and the ship is uncontrollable just imagine Sunny coated like a ball xD
i remembered how mr 3 used his wax ball to escape unscathed from the bananagator
also i remember he can make his wax ultra hard…......... so perhaps a combination of both would result in the same results they would get from raleigh, just think of a ball with sunny inside, or however it works
anyway it was just an idea, its unlikely it will happen, but surrounding the ship in a solid wax case isnt too hard.........
at least that you might agree with?
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ok i'll buy that idea wink
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So I was just looking at an SBS, volume 45 I believe, chapter 439, pg188. So it asks what is every crew members favorite food. I'm assuming this was a joke, but Oda includes a fish. While it doesn't point to whom, possible foreshadowing to a fishman crew member? I am not convinced, but I thought it was… interesting, I guess you could say.
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mystery beast on impel down level 6 for strawhat pet!!!! the crew needs a real pet, chopper ain't pet.
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Nah i think it will be Buggy, because he was abandoned by his own crew. Plus Buggy is a little weaker than Luffy, and the crew needs a clown, someone to make them laugh and it be cool to have some who was bad turn good, it would be really cool, i could imagine it now.
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@Knuckles:
if anyone from impel down joins then i think the most likely person would be mr 3
reasons;
1. he wouldnt overshadow the crew…........like jimbei, hancock, ace......etc
2. he's been re-introduced to the story, so he must have some importance in the story
3. his terrible jokes suit the crew like a glove
4. he might be able to coat the ship in wax to get to fishman islands if they escape
5. he's strong enough to beat two bounties at $100,000,000cons
1. coating the ship is pushing it i have to admit
2.we already have one of crocs old crew members in the crew (robin)
3. we havnt enough information on him to make a well based decision yetbut....................Mr.3 for nakama
I like it! I really wouldn't mind if he joins the crew. I'd like to see him comb that "3" out of his hair and reveal a real name. He could be quite excellent I believe, especially with the beard.
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All this arguments for him to join are great, but you seem to forget Mr.3 was and is a total bitch afterall XD
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I think Mr. 3 would be awesome. He's one of my favorite characters. Though, Mr. 2 and Perona (I ain't droppin' this) would be great too.
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mr 3 would be great but he doesn't have a dream as of yet and doen't show sighs of having a dream, you need a dream to be a strawhat.
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I have an urge to see someone with Neko Neko no Mi: Model Lion join the Strawhats in the New World. As for the possible candidates in the current arc I can only see Mr. 2 have a shoot joining.
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I think Mr. 3 will join a crew yes… Buggy's crew!
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Just add Bon Clay to that and I'm with you all the way.
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I think Mr. 3 will join a crew yes… Buggy's crew!
You have a good thing going here. The Buggy Crew could be a collection of old enemies returning. We already have (had) Arvida. ^^
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My opinion: at some point (maybe @ fishman island) a fishman will join the SHs. But not Jimbei, he's just too big and too much adultlike to fit in the crew.
Mr. 2/3 would be fun too, though
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Now that we know a little of Jinbei, I have to say the biggest reason I am doubtful of his chances for joining are his character. Right now is very serious times, so that is likely the reason for his attitude, but at this current moment I cannot imagine what he would be like laughing or making jokes or anything. 'Course, same can still be said for Robin, and while Zoro doesn't typically give off that jibe, he constantly face faults in irritation or anger at someone (Sanji, Franky, Luffy, Etc). Oda is the master of this type of thing though, so it doesn't worry me that much. He made Robin work, and he can make the most serious character in the world funny, so if Jinbei remains this serious and if he joins the crew I can still see Oda making him work. The size factor has never been an issue to me. Franky will just remodel the Sunny's mouth to work like this: Example A
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I think Bon Kurie will join, as the only reason he did not join in the past was because he wanted the SH's to escape safely. I also think Buggy may TEMPORARILY Join. He has a dream, to find all the tresure/captain johns tresure\ find huge amounts of tresure. So i think he may join, maybe after fishman island, leave, steal from the crew, join an enemy and try to get back to the first half of the grandline, but realize he liked being with Luffy and the crew.
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From what I gather, there's always a certain level of Idiocy with each crew member (with a bit of an exception with robin) and it's part of what makes it fun to read.
I'm not really on board with Hancock joining; but IF she does, it would look like this:
1. Luffy introduces her to the crew
2. Sanji nosebleeds all over
3. Hancock insultingly tells Sanji she only has eyes for Luffy
4. Sanji forgives her, but kicks luffy
5. Zorro insults Sanji even more, ignoring Hancock
6. Zorro has a bit of resistance to Hancock's charm thus making her look
down on him.
7. Nami gets charmed at first but it eventually fades when she learns
Hancock is a queen of an entire island (Hinting that Hancock is very rich!
<dollar signs="" on="" her="" eyes="">).
8. Usopp introduces himself as being the REAL captain of the ship (ignored)
9. Franky introduces himself with a dance.
10. Hancock insults Franky's perverted appearance and bends back even
more, looking down on him.
11. Hancock hesitates to talk to Brooke; being a skeleton and all…
12. Then Brooke asks Hancock if she could show him her panties
13. Now Hancock is practically looking up as she insults the skinless
musician while he gets a beating from Nami and Sanji
14. The shy Chopper politely introduces himself to Hancock.
15. She kicks Chopper saying "why is there a cute Reindeer in my way?"
16. Chopper starts his weird dance saying " Calling me a CUTE reindeer
doesn't make me happy at all!!"
17. Robin calmly smiles while watching everyone.
18. Luffy tell's Hancock to not kick Chopper...
19. She quickly hears Luffy's voice and behaves herself...
20. and it goes on and on.....Call me crazy but it's pretty much Vintage everyday Strawhat madness...</dollar>
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From what I gather, there's always a certain level of Idiocy with each crew member (with a bit of an exception with robin) and it's part of what makes it fun to read.
I'm not really on board with Hancock joining; but IF she does, it would look like this:
1. Luffy introduces her to the crew
2. Sanji nosebleeds all over
3. Hancock insultingly tells Sanji she only has eyes for Luffy
4. Sanji forgives her, but kicks luffy
5. Zorro insults Sanji even more, ignoring Hancock
6. Zorro has a bit of resistance to Hancock's charm thus making her look
down on him.
7. Nami gets charmed at first but it eventually fades when she learns
Hancock is a queen of an entire island (Hinting that Hancock is very rich!
<dollar signs="" on="" her="" eyes="">).
8. Usopp introduces himself as being the REAL captain of the ship (ignored)
9. Franky introduces himself with a dance.
10. Hancock insults Franky's perverted appearance and bends back even
more, looking down on him.
11. Hancock hesitates to talk to Brooke; being a skeleton and all…
12. Then Brooke asks Hancock if she could show him her panties
13. Now Hancock is practically looking up as she insults the skinless
musician while he gets a beating from Nami and Sanji
14. The shy Chopper politely introduces himself to Hancock.
15. She kicks Chopper saying "why is there a cute Reindeer in my way?"
16. Chopper starts his weird dance saying " Calling me a CUTE reindeer
doesn't make me happy at all!!"
17. Robin calmly smiles while watching everyone.
18. Luffy tell's Hancock to not kick Chopper...
19. She quickly hears Luffy's voice and behaves herself...
20. and it goes on and on.....Call me crazy but it's pretty much Vintage everyday Strawhat madness...</dollar>
i can most definitely see all of this happening, and i'm sure there could be future "pining" gags between Hancock and Sanji over their respective love interests, but i'm not sure i'd want that…I'm not sold on her yet. It did, however take me untill Enies Lobby to warm up to Robin as a nakama (and playing as her in UA! she kicked butt!)