Brook’s companions are buried there. I really hope Teach didn’t sink it
Official Egghead Thread
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When people talk about Smoker, i always recall picture that i photoshoped 5 years ago as a joke about what upgrade he would get from Vegapunk for appearance in Wano. Maybe now is the time?
Btw, could it be an ester egg from an assistant in the chapter 1069? Amogus. Fit the following traitor plotline.
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@Zurgats I've been speculating that Smoker is with Garp and he was at least partially responsible for the flying ship. After thinking about it for a while, maybe he's stronger thanks to Vegapunk somehow.
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Probable chapter release calendar for the remainder of 2023:
May
7 - Ch 1082
14 - Ch 1083
21 - Ch 1084
28 - BreakJune
4 - Ch 1085
11 - Ch 1086
18 - Ch 1087
25 - BreakComments: Chapter 1086 is probably the final one for Volume 107. I feel it's likely the Garp/Fullalead scene will be concluded by then. Chapter 1086 is likely to have a big cliffhanger anyway.
July
2 - Ch 1088
9 - Ch 1089
16 - Ch 1090
23 - Break
30 - Ch 1091Comments: July 21-22 is "One Piece day". I wonder if the chapters around it, either before or after, will have some major developments. Personally, I'm looking for 1091-1092 for reasons of my own.
August
6 - Ch 1092
13 - Ch 1093
20 - Break
27 - Ch 1094September
3 - Ch 1095
10 - Ch 1096
17 - Break
24 - Ch 1097Comments: Chapter 1096 is likely the final one for Volume 108. It may have a big cliffhanger.
October
1 - Ch 1098
8 - Ch 1099
15 - Break
22 - Ch 1100
29 - Ch 1101Comments: Chapter 1100 may be a landmark of some sort. It's interesting it comes just after a break, so 1099 may end with a big cliffhanger.
November
5 - Ch 1102
12 - Break
19 - Ch 1103
26 - Ch 1104December
3 - Ch 1105
10 - Break
17 - Ch 1106
24 - Break
31 - Ch 1107Comments: Chapter 1106 is likely Volume 109 ender, with its own cliffhanger. Technically it's the last chapter of the year; 1107 may be out by Dec 31st, but it will actually be Jan 1st in Japan.
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Wouldn't shock me if there was an altered break point in July so the closest dates to One Piece day can both have chapters. July 24th (sorry, using dates from my time zone) especially seems like an odd one to take off. If I was scheduling it I'd break early on the 10th or late on the 31st instead to have maximum OP hype surrounding the big day. But that, particularly the early one, might add another break to the year as a whole.
Was there meant to be another Jump double issue before the end of the year? And don't they usually not cancel out Oda Breaks, just rearrange them so there's never a two-week break?
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Not sure if it helps to look at last years schedule of One Piece chapters, cause Oda took that month long break, a few weeks after Golden week, but it might be a good indicator of what to expect.
As far as I can tell from 2021 the Oda break doesn't reset after a WSJ break, but maybe its different this time around.
For example last year, we had 4 chapters in a row before that month long break.
https://claystage.com/one-piece-chapter-release-schedule-for-2022
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@Captain-M I don't think there's any Jump Double Issues left before end-of-year holidays. In 2021, there were the Olympics in Japan which caused a Jump Break, and in 2022 there was the after-Wano month-long Oda Break, but neither are regular holidays.
For One Piece day, I could see them changing the break date, so either we get Chapter 1090 or 1091 in that day, and the break coming either the week before or after it.
Another interesting tidbit is Chapter 1111, which will be out in February 2024 and certainly be part of Volume 110. I wonder if Oda won't do something special for that... (11th Straw Hat?)
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@Deicide A little googling suggests Obon in August can be a Jump break, but I'm in no way an authority on Japanese public holidays so take that with a grain of salt.
I'd rather not see the story bent too hard to fit with these milestone numbers more than it already does. (Onigashima probably suffered a little from getting too caught up on having the exact right moment line up with the exact right number.) I don't think past anniversaries had any big story developments besides a colour spread and the announcements of upcoming stuff, and that's always been fine.
1111 feels way too far away to even start speculating about to me haha
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@Captain-M said in Official Egghead Thread:
I'd rather not see the story bent too hard to fit with these milestone numbers more than it already does.
I don't think Oda will try to fit big things in each of those milestone. But in some of them? It's possible.
It doesn't need to be a really special event like Chapter 1000. It may just have a plot reveal or a nice cliffhanger. I expect big cliffhangers in Volume enders, for instance, thought it doesn't always happen.
Chapters like 100, 200, 300... sometimes have big reveals or exciting developments, for instance. Again, not always.
@Captain-M said in Official Egghead Thread:
A little googling suggests Obon in August can be a Jump break, but I'm in no way an authority on Japanese public holidays so take that with a grain of salt.
I don't remember it having a Jump Break in past years, but I may be wrong.
Edit: Upon further research, it did cause a Jump Break in 2021, at least, so you may be right on this one.
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@Deicide Yeah I think you can see the story being planned at least to an extent around the volume start and end points. It's not always a cliffhanger, but there's always some kind of climactic beat hit to keep readers coming back. But it's not as much of a strain on the story to do that because volumes can be squashed down to 9 or stretched as far 12 chapters if they need to be. There's flexibility to ensure the big finishing scene comes up naturally.
The one thing I've noticed a volume ender will almost never do is cap off an arc, which I guess is to keep readers from ever feel like they've reached a good jumping off point. The crew leaves an island just enough chapters before the end of a volume to start setting up the next island, or they leave just after the start of the volume. Always something still in motion when you stop reading.
And the multiples of 100 have definitely lined up fairly smoothly with dramatic beats in the past. There's a couple with nothing special, but 100 cutting so much of Loguetown to get its moment and 1000 stretching the castle climb were the only ones that truly felt forced to me.
But the more of those numbers you want to hit the harder I think it would get. Colour spreads and non-story chapter covers are probably the better place to cash in on things like anniversaries and novel numbers, if nothing else has just happened to fall in place on its own.
I did find this on the topic of 2022's Obon, so it's probably going to be similar this year:
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@Captain-M Yeah, I don’t expect every milestone to be meaningful, it’s just that it’s more likely for big things to be fit into milestones.
And you are right. Oda’s break would fall perfectly on top of Odon this year, so there’s two possibilities:
- Oda keeps the break lined up with the holiday.
- Oda changes his break schedule, so we get one more break in August or July, and one chapter less this year.
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If there is anything planned for chapter 1111, I don't expect it to be anything more extravagant than a cover featuring Zoro given it's the same number as his birthday and current bounty and wouldn't need to disrupt any story beats.
And honestly I'm not even really expecting that; it would just be a fun but unnecessary little easter egg.
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I wonder how many people are blaming characters like Shanks, Blackbeard, and Garp for why the Straw Hats aren't getting enough attention in this arc right now. Hahah.
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I got this interesting vibe from Sabo and Dragon's dialogue some chapters back.
Oda hooked me for this story with Luffy and Zoro's interactions. It was like 2 people that knew each other for a long time, but they had just met. That trust and comradery felt so natural. I continue to see that for example when Kaido cuts Orochi down, he takes a sword from King. It's so quick, but I felt like they were partners and had a tight bond, even if its' for something so small like getting rid of Orochi.
That is what I got from Dragon and Sabo. Dragon was so big on getting answers from Sabo before he came. They sat down and Dragon isn't screaming at him to hurry up and get to the Cobra part. They are going through the agenda like business partners. Agreeing on key principles that they both share.
Sabo - "anything that gets the flames of revolution burning"
Dragon - "I like that attitude"This is truly by any means necessary types. The way Dragon runs down Cobra's misfortune and how it will be viewed, then benefit their cause. It makes me admire their bond so much.
On a separate note, i've seen some fans question what is the point of another brother or Sabo in general. Dragon and Sabo are not too far from Ace/WB, but this by any means necessary and almost cold and calculated way of going about things has me intrigued with how their story turns out. There is much to play with when there are revolutions, holy knights, mystery concerning Cobra, and a true intro to Dragon and Sabo's relationship.
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Break week… * sight *
Anyway, some predictions:
1085 - Void Century revelations, Sabo witnesses Cobra’s death, Vivi attacked, back to present, cliffhanger for the Revolutionaries (Marine/WG attack?)
1086 - Fullalead. Marines vs Blackbeard Pirates
1087 - Fullalead conclusion. Back to Egghead.
If this prediction comes true, then we will have been away from the Straw Hats for 3 real-life months by the time we return to Egghead.
And yeah, I think Fullalead scene needs to be concluded before we return to the main story. Ch 1081 ended in a point where the tension wasn't stressed enough (as no Blackbeard Pirate besides Kuzan was seen, and Kuzan was being beaten by Garp), so it doesn't feel like a good cutaway point.
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Sigh indeed, these days it feels like One Piece has become bi-weekly...
I would hold my horses on Void Century revelations, though, other than a hint on Imu's identity and powers. If only because it would feel underwhelming for us readers to learn too much about the VC before the Strawhats have found the One Piece and/or reconstructed the full history.
Other than this, I agree with the plan. There's little to no drama build-up if Garp makes it away from Fullalead unscathed, so no way it concludes on what we last saw. I could see him be defeated off-panel, however, while we cut to Koby & co onboard a marine ship mourning for his sacrifice. Unless his fate becomes instrumental in whatever Luffy choses to do next after Egghead, in which case maybe some live footage is in order.
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@Seafarer33 said in Official Egghead Thread:
I would hold my horses on Void Century revelations, though
I don't expect a full run-down of the Void Century, just a few pieces of a very big puzzle.
Big revelations would probably require more than a few pages in a chapter packed with other stuff.
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I kinda get the feeling we've entered a different arc at this point, with Shanks, and Blackbeard, and Sabo, and all that. Since time is always moving forward, it makes me wonder if the incident with York will be told in flashback as opposed to real-time.
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@electricmastro I think it's more like Egghead is on pause. Almost like it's in an intermission between its Acts 1 and 2, except those arcs weren't formally announced.
I think there will be some sort of small flashback to catch up what's happening in Egghead, but it won't be a large skip.
My bet is on the Straw Hats having lost the first round with the Seraphim, then some flashback to quickly show what happened (rather than a detailed fight), and we move forward from the defeat.
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@Deicide said in Official Egghead Thread:
@electricmastro I think it's more like Egghead is on pause. Almost like it's in an intermission between its Acts 1 and 2, except those arcs weren't formally announced.
I think there will be some sort of small flashback to catch up what's happening in Egghead, but it won't be a large skip.
My bet is on the Straw Hats having lost the first round with the Seraphim, then some flashback to quickly show what happened (rather than a detailed fight), and we move forward from the defeat.
Seeing as how Law and Kid lost, wouldn't surprise me if Luffy lost at some point to make a poetic Worst Generation parallel there too, even if Luffy has Gear Fifth.
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@electricmastro I do think we will get the "defeated" narration for the Straw Hats, but then they manage to bounce back before Kizaru arrives.
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@Deicide said in Official Egghead Thread:
Break week… * sight *
Anyway, some predictions:
1085 - Void Century revelations, Sabo witnesses Cobra’s death, Vivi attacked, back to present, cliffhanger for the Revolutionaries (Marine/WG attack?)
1086 - Fullalead. Marines vs Blackbeard Pirates
1087 - Fullalead conclusion. Back to Egghead.
If this prediction comes true, then we will have been away from the Straw Hats for 3 real-life months by the time we return to Egghead.
And yeah, I think Fullalead scene needs to be concluded before we return to the main story. Ch 1081 ended in a point where the tension wasn't stressed enough (as no Blackbeard Pirate besides Kuzan was seen, and Kuzan was being beaten by Garp), so it doesn't feel like a good cutaway point.
That would be an interesting chance for Oda to give a mini-timeskip.
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I don't think the Straw Hats will lose the first round. It kinda seems pointless to show us Robin, Chopper and Atlas making the secret lab if the next time we see them everyone is defeated. Maybe when we cut back we'll see Luffy and Lucci defeated by Seraphim Kuma, or Sanji defeated by Seraphim Jinbei, but it's only going to be used as an end of chapter stinger and they'll get back up again shortly.
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@black-leg-jex
You can’t stop Phase 1 of the villain’s plan. That’s when the stakes are set and threat is established, and the later phases are the ones that bring urgency and the greatest challenges. Besides, we are still one day away from the big incident. Something must delay the heroes until then.Which is why a defeat is all but sure. The crew will lose. Some will survive but because they hid. Some will be in worse or better shape than others. But York is set to win the first round, I believe.
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I figure Egghead is going to be Bonney's arc, in a similar way that Wano was Momo's arc, as it seems Bonney was starting to be explored as a character there. There has been a big cutaway though, which as of now seems to be focusing on Vivi, but even then I don't think this arc would focus the most on her since she already had Alabasta as a big arc focusing on her. I know it might be fruitless looking at One Piece arcs revolving around one character, since many characters are usually at play, but if there's one person I'm keen on benefitting the most at Egghead that hasn't really been explored before, then I'd say it would be Bonney. So unless some really big revelations happen including with Vivi, then I'd hope we go back to Bonney soon. lol
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@electricmastro I'm feeling Bonney will join York, at least for a bit.
- We've been told repeatedly the Seraphim are still children and will become both stronger and more skilled when they grow up. Bonney can age them up in an instant.
- York can probably offer to restore Kuma in exchange for Bonney's cooperation. Even if York is lying, Bonney may fall for it because she both really wants it and will be hurt by Kuma's memories
- Helping the Straw Hats was a reason for Kuma to be turned into a mindless cyborg. I feel Bonney will find it out in the memories, and York may use that to pitch her against Luffy and the crew.
- I also think another reason for Kuma helping the Straw Hats was because Bonney had escaped the Government, so she couldn't be used to keep him in line. Depending on how Bonney finds about it, she may feel guilt over it and feel even more compelled to accept any offer to restore Kuma, or to shift the blame to someone else, the Straw Hats.
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I believe you're giving way to much credit and weight to York as an arc villain. To me it seems she was just put there to stall and scatter the straw hats and cp0 untill the arrival of the real heavyweights. Blacky's ship is already there and the royal escort surely is close behind, that's when shit will go down.
Also I'm pretty sure that Oda just doesn't do strawhat defeats anymore after sabaody, no matter how more interesting it would be or how much tension is killed. With the only exceptions I can think of being he Katakuri fight and Kaido's 1 hit KO, Luffy pretty much dominated the New World with a lot less of effort than it took to reach Sabaody.
And the onigashima raid off course was a joke. Luffy actually lost twice there and came back immediately the first time with a full heal, the second with an instant 10x buff + final form he can now access freely. He didn't become a super sayian emperor to lose to the poop robot, I'm afraid the story isn't fun in that way anymore. -
@Alfiere This arc ties too many important dangling threads for it to be just short stop with no stakes. Bonney, Kuma and Vegapunk have all been part of the story for hundreds and hundreds of chapters, and it all come together in Egghead. Same with the Seraphim being the culmination of the Pacifista project.
Besides, with the Egghead incident still one day away, the story will need a challenge to keep the Straw Hats on the island until the incident happens.
And another thing: Egghead is the chance for Oda to go wild with his imagination. Giant robots, lasers, clones, whatever gadgetry he can think of... I don't think Oda will pass that opportunity up since this is probably his last chance to explore those things.
York is not the minor villain people still think she is. She's one of the most intelligent people in the world, and eliminating the Straw Hats is just the first step in her plan.
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Be assured that I completely see the merits in what you're saying. I'd be very, and positively, surprised if it turns out that way.
It's just that I'm highly skeptical about Oda handling the plot that way at this point.
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@Alfiere I think Onigashima was an entirely different story. While I did feel the tension was lukewarm, with dangers being swiftly defused just as things started to get heated, I think that arc was meant to elevate the crew to the highest echelons of piracy, and there was little room for a real defeat.
Now, as we enter the final saga, Oda needs to establish quickly that the crew is not invincible, and that it will struggle against the dangers ahead.
I don’t think York will be a strong villain, but she’s definitely a cunning villain, and that’s how she will win the first round. She set up a trap, caught everyone unaware, and has several trump cards at her disposal.
But then the crew will bounce back and come better prepared to round 2, now knowing who they are fighting. York will be less interesting by then, but she will have fulfilled two roles: to prove the SH can still lose, and to buy time for the Egghead Incident, whatever it is.
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How many chapters until we’re back at the Straw Hats?
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@Shiebs my guess is Ch 1088.
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Aside from wrapping up the Cobra plot, what I would like to get an update on is Doflamingo's assassination. That, the giant Straw Hat and Shanks meeting with the Elders, if I'm not mistaken those are the only Reverie plot points that we have not gotten an update on. Out of those, the Doffy one seems like the least engame-ish so I think it'd be a good time to show us what's been going on with him.
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@Shiebs said in Official Egghead Thread:
How many chapters until we’re back at the Straw Hats?
Bonney and the Revolutionaries seem pretty much done in Reverie Part 2 based on what we know. That aside, I figure we may go like 3 more chapters of lore and Vivi escaping with Morgans before going back to Egghead.
@cavendishsama said in Official Egghead Thread:
Aside from wrapping up the Cobra plot, what I would like to get an update on is Doflamingo's assassination. That, the giant Straw Hat and Shanks meeting with the Elders, if I'm not mistaken those are the only Reverie plot points that we have not gotten an update on. Out of those, the Doffy one seems like the least engame-ish so I think it'd be a good time to show us what's been going on with him.
I imagine that guy is still laughing anyway he can after losing to Luffy, and wouldn’t be anything more to him than looking at some newspapers. Hahahah.
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@cavendishsama we know Doflamingo is fine since he appeared post-Reverie in Ch 956 laughing at the news.
I don’t know if that supposed assassin is an actual plot point or just info to say the Government would like Doflamingo dead. There may not even be an assassin, Doflamingo could just be guessing what was happening.
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@Deicide said in Official Egghead Thread:
@cavendishsama we know Doflamingo is fine since he appeared post-Reverie in Ch 956 laughing at the news.
I don’t know if that supposed assassin is an actual plot point or just info to say the Government would like Doflamingo dead. There may not even be an assassin, Doflamingo could just be guessing what was happening.
Or just sarcasm that someone would go through that much effort to break into the prison just to assassinate him. lol
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@Deicide The reason why I think there is more to it is, shouldn't they be able to just order his execution? He is a pirate after all and Magellan had no issue assisting in Ace's execution. So I think there might not be unity within the Government in what to do with Doflamingo. Maybe the Marines for example rather want him alive for the time being.
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Depending on how the encounter with Kuzan goes in this arc, I figure Garp and SWORD will encounter Cross Guild at some point, seeing as how Koby said in Chapter 2 that he'd capture Alvida, who's with Cross Guild now.
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@cavendishsama Maybe the Government does not want to issue Doflamingo's execution for fear that he may have a way to retaliate and, like Gold Roger, cause an uproar by revealing what he knows, be it by saying it himself or through agents under orders to reveal it should he be executed. So, instead of your typical execution, they want him to quietly be assassinated and then forgotten.
However, it's also possible that the government is not trying to assassinate Doflamingo. Instead, he's just gloating because he thinks too highly of himself.
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I hope if they flash back to Garp vs the Black Beard Pirates we get to see the bounties on the crew, outside of Black Beard himself I don’t think we know any of them
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With the news that there will be a 3-week break after Ch 1086, the probable chapter release schedule for the remainder of the year is now as follows:
- June -
11 - Ch 1086
18 - Break
25 - Break- July -
2 - Break
9 - Ch 1097
16 - Ch 1088
23 - Ch 1089
30 - Break- August -
6 - Ch 1090
13 - Break
20 - Ch 1091
27 - Break- September -
3- Ch 1092
10- Ch 1093
17- Ch 1094
24- Break- October -
1- Ch 1095
8- Ch 1096
15- Ch 1097
22- Break
29- Ch 1098- November -
5- Ch 1099
12- Ch 1100
19- Break
26- Ch 1101- December -
3- Ch 1102
10- Break
17- Ch 1103
24- Break
31- Ch 1104 -
@Deicide said in Official Egghead Thread:
- November -
5- Ch 1099
12- Ch 1100
19- Break
26- Ch 1101- December -
3- Ch 1102
10- Break
17- Ch 1103
24- Break
31- Ch 1104Hmm, so assuming the next cover story starts around Chapter 1100, then I suppose it will start around November or Oda will try to move it back closer to be more timely.
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@electricmastro I have a feeling the next cover story won't take long to start. Probably during Vol 108 (between Ch 1087-1096).
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@Deicide said in Official Egghead Thread:
@electricmastro I have a feeling the next cover story won't take long to start. Probably during Vol 108 (between Ch 1087-1096).
Whole Cake ended in April 2018 and its first cover story follow-up with Bege started in July 2019, which is 15 months. So Wano ending in August 2022 could suggest that the next cover story could start in November 2023, but interesting to see you suggest it might start earlier than that.
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@electricmastro I don't think there's a hard rule on how many chapters Oda will wait between cover stories. Pre-timeskip, they were only 9-11 chapters apart from each other. Then during Marineford Oda started making extended breaks between them.
With how much emphasis the story is giving to world affairs, I feel we may get a cover story more or less around the same time the story returns to Egghead, in order to keep world stuff happening alongside the main story.
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@Deicide said in Official Egghead Thread:
@electricmastro I don't think there's a hard rule on how many chapters Oda will wait between cover stories. Pre-timeskip, they were only 9-11 chapters apart from each other. Then during Marineford Oda started making extended breaks between them.
With how much emphasis the story is giving to world affairs, I feel we may get a cover story more or less around the same time the story returns to Egghead, in order to keep world stuff happening alongside the main story.
Yeah, not saying there was a hard rule or anything. I was just trying to be realistic in when the next one may come as best as possible and not just go by my personal feelings. But that said, I can see Oda trying to do them as often as possible now seeing as there's a whole ton of stuff going on he'd want to cover. Thinking back to when he lined-up Pudding's kidnapping with the interior content may be indicative of that.
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CORRECTED probable release schedule for the remainder of the year, now that it's confirmed it will be a 4-week break instead of 3-week like previously thought:
- June -
11 - Ch 1086
18 - Break
25 - Break- July -
2 - Break
9 - Break
16 - Ch 1087
23 - Ch 1088
30 - Break- August -
6 - Ch 1089
13 - Break (Obon Festival)
20 - Ch 1090
27 - Ch 1091- September -
3- Ch 1092
10- Break
17- Ch 1093
24- Ch 1094- October -
1- Ch 1095
8- Break
15- Ch 1096
22- Ch 1097
29- Ch 1098- November -
5- Break
12- Ch 1099
19- Ch 1100
26- Ch 1101- December -
3- Break
10- Ch 1102
17- Ch 1103
24- Break (Holidays)
31- Ch 1104EDITED: Fixed a mistake on breaks that affected schedule from October onwards.
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Yeah, looks like the rest of June and most of July will feel pretty barren in terms of chapters. The manga not start really feeling like it's picking up again until Fall.
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One more thing about the cover story, it was suggested to me that Oda waits until he draws each Straw Hat individually on cover requests before starting a cover story (for example Luffy on 995 and Brook on 1030). He has drawn ones for Luffy (sunflowers), Chopper (Zeus), and Franky (turtles) so far, so 7 more to go before then.
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@electricmastro This was his pattern pre-timeskip, he'd draw at least one cover for each Straw Hat, and cover stories were like 9-11 chapters apart usually.
Post-timeskip changed it entirely, as we'd had dozens of chapters between cover-stories, and Oda includes so many characters in cover pages. I never stopped to see if he necessarily includes every Straw Hat every time. Especially since cover pages are nowadays always based on reader requests, so I feel Oda is not bound by any rules anymore. He will do a new cover story when he feels like it.
Edit: I found an old list of Chapters between the end of previous cover story and the start of the new one:
- Pre-timeskip -
Koby: 8
Jango: 7
Hachi: 10
Wapol: 8
Ace: 10
Gedatsu: 9
Baroque Works: 11
Enel: 11*
CP9: 12*
Straw Hat separation: 15(I considered the "Where are they now" segments as the start of these cover stories)
- Post-timeskip -
DotW 1: 53
Caribou: 6
Jinbe: 20
DotW 2: 20
Grand Fleet: 26
Bege: 29
Germa: 39See the really small gap between Decks of the World 1 and Caribou? Only 6 chapters. It breaks any patterns.
Including this week's Ch (1086), which we know has a color spread, it's been 8 chapters since the last cover story ended.
I really feel like a new cover story could start at any moment.