Discuss your Demon Souls, your Dark Souls, your Sekiros and Niohs and and Bloodbornes and Elden Rings and whatever else is appropriate.
These tend to get a bit of traffic when the game is fresh and then never again, figure might as well put together a general thread for the lot of them.
I absolutely love the look and feel of these games even if I’ve never played them, especially Bloodborne, everything looks amazing
Played all except Bloodborne.
Think I had the most fun with Sekiro, by a very small margin. Just a sucker for sword fighting, and man did they do it justice in that game.
Elden Ring excites me beyond words. Haven't been playing games much last few years. Between work and hobbies and stuff, it's hard to find the time or the will to engage into something. So I mostly play smaller games, and over Winter. Currently playing Death's Door (try it!).
But, when a Fromsoft game comes along, I just know I'll make the time to enjoy it completely. The trailer started a little bit slow, but by the time the player started shooting magic arrows at dragon while riding, I was completely and desperately hooked.
I downloaded Lords Of The Fallen months ago and couldn’t play it at the time because my neck decided to be a bitch.
Should try getting back to it…..Just gotta break myself
Away from Fallout 4.
So, is Elden Ring going to be as hard as the Dark Souls games?
@Johnny:
So, is Elden Ring going to be as hard as the Dark Souls games?
Its the same studio so… probably.
But it being more open world means you'll be able to pick and choose your fights a little more, you'll not be trapped in hallways quite so much. Even in the other SOuls games you can generally just run past everything, but that tends to take some practice.
In the demo at least magic is back to being overpowered, but that might be toned down by the final.
@Johnny:
So, is Elden Ring going to be as fun as the Dark Souls games?
Better believe it bro!
Elden Ring seems to be getting great reviews so far, not surprising
Super glowing non spoilery review.
I really wanna play this. And Horizon 2. But I've sworn that I'm going to clear at least some of my backlog out first. I have games that I bought and downloaded two years ago that I haven't even opened and tried once, and I'm trying to clear some of that out.
On the upside, these new games I really want will be well patched and on sale by the time I get to them.
Ahhhh. Finished downloading Horizon Forbidden West for my birthday. Elden Ring uo next!
Nothing but good reviews so far for Elden Ring. Was fortunate enough to be part of the Beta and chose the Warrior class…
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Played all except Bloodborne.
Think I had the most fun with Sekiro, by a very small margin. Just a sucker for sword fighting, and man did they do it justice in that game.
Elden Ring excites me beyond words. Haven't been playing games much last few years. Between work and hobbies and stuff, it's hard to find the time or the will to engage into something. So I mostly play smaller games, and over Winter. Currently playing Death's Door (try it!).
But, when a Fromsoft game comes along, I just know I'll make the time to enjoy it completely. The trailer started a little bit slow, but by the time the player started shooting magic arrows at dragon while riding, I was completely and desperately hooked.
Played DS 3, Sekiro, and Bloodborne. Appreciated Sekiro's combat the most but Bloodborne's lore was a joy to piece out.
The deflection concept, the boss fight with Owl, and even the prosthetic tools' creativity and variations.
So, there's a class called the Wretch, where you're almost naked and only have a club. Is this just a joke class (or for the super good player) or is it like a Magikarp thing?
@Johnny:
So, there's a class called the Wretch, where you're almost naked and only have a club. Is this just a joke class (or for the super good player) or is it like a Magikarp thing?
It's for hardcore players who want more challenge in the early game. Plus they can allocate stat points freely, since Wretch starts at level 1, unlike other classes who are 8, 9 etc. and have pre allocated points.
So yeah, it's for hardcore min-maxers in short.
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@Gol:
Played DS 3, Sekiro, and Bloodborne. Appreciated Sekiro's combat the most but Bloodborne's lore was a joy to piece out.
The deflection concept, the boss fight with Owl, and even the prosthetic tools' creativity and variations.
I'm mostly a PC gamer so can't wait for Bloodborne to come out.
Think Father Owl was my favorite as well. Such a fast paced combat. Bastard catches you on your wrong foot and kills you in one fast combo. Just loved that, even if it did take like 20 times in my first pass.
@Johnny:
So, there's a class called the Wretch, where you're almost naked and only have a club. Is this just a joke class (or for the super good player) or is it like a Magikarp thing?
If it's like other Souls games, its mostly there so you can freely appoint your levels as you get them rather than have some pre-assigned. Gives you a rougher starting game but you might be closer to the build you want faster.
Generally you can grind a little and you're not really locked into any given choice if you don't want to be, but the physical/magic split is apparently a little stronger this time so people might want a middle ground or a min-max more.
Tried playing Elden Ring on PC. Port is very poorly optimzed. Constant stuttering during boss fights. Locked at 60 fps and no ultra wide support in 2022. True to your usual From Software pc ports. Gues I'll have to wait till the patch comes out.
PS5 performance has been smooth for me so far, heard the PS4 version is good too.
I tried bloodborne once, died immediately at the first enemy and couldn’t figure out how to respawn and gave up 
Again I’m a guy who has a hard enough time with Nintendo games so I don’t know why I even tried
I cheesed the first enemy and only got my ass handed to me outside of the Asylum in Bloodborne.
Was worried playing on a regular PS4 wasn't going to run well hearing how the PS5 has problems but plays just fine for me. This game is absolutely beautiful, having me stop every so often to enjoy the scenery while exploring the world. In my 3 hours outside of doing the required part to be able to level up I have not been going on the intended path, which lead to an interesting thing happening to me.
! Was just going around doing stuff and I activated an event that caused me to teleport to an area with much harder enemies, and when getting out of the place was in a completely different part of the map with much harder enemies all around me.
This game slaps. I've been missing the souls experience since ds3 people always come up with all kind of suggestions to scratch the souls itch like Nioh or any game with the concept of losing currency and bonfire equivalent but honestly those games generally don't hit on the souls itch, Nioh and the like a very good games I love for entirely different reasons. Cause to me the core of the souls experience is exploration and the friction that comes with it, it's not the difficulty which is overstated anyway for souls, it's not just the superficial mechanics, it's feeling the desire to push forward in the world because of its intrigue and mystery. I'm not very far in but the opening hours definitely nailed that familiar feel for me.
I'm playing very slowly though since it's a game that does take mental energy to play and a lot of times I just want to chill and zone out in the evening but my weekends are probably going to be all Elden Ring for a while.
Yesterday I took a day off from work to play Elden Ring for almost 10 hours with one dinner break in the middle.
I had (and still have) some reservations about the open world aspect of it, but I think this game's gonna earn its place on my toplist.
I'm spoilering the following even though it's not really a spoiler, only a funny little experience I had:
! There's a camp close to the beginning of the game where armored soldiers, well, camp. I went in there ready to look around and hone my battle skills only for one of the guys to immediately sound a trumpet, alerting the whole camp that promptly kicked my ass. I laughed. I know there were these alert guys in DS3 as well, but those just screeched. This one had a trumpet.
And I'm spoilering this one because it's spoiler-spoiler:
! Margit was a neat boss with a very varied moveset that at first seemed kind of intimidating, but after a few tries it was only a matter of memorization and good reflexes. I just hope there aren't many bosses that talk when they kill you because that can become old very fast.
! Speaking of speaking bosses… Godrick. Holy shit is this guy hard. I started as an Astrologer (so, sorcerer basically) and this guy laughs at me. Good thing I'm only half a mage so I can proceed and poke him to death with my spear. Haven't managed to beat him yet, but God, is he brutal. Not in a gameplay sense, but in the "literally cuts off one of his 20 limbs to replace it with the neck and head of a dragon that can breath fire"-sense.
OK, so I have a friend who is letting me play ER with my own save file, and having never played a Souls game….I can't get past this god damn guy with a greatsword at the start. Blocking apparently doesn't do a damn thing, and I can't roll fast enough to not be horribly maimed.
@Johnny:
OK, so I have a friend who is letting me play ER with my own save file, and having never played a Souls game….I can't get past this god damn guy with a greatsword at the start. Blocking apparently doesn't do a damn thing, and I can't roll fast enough to not be horribly maimed.
What kind of shield do you have? Regular/small or something on the heavier side? Bigger attacks can only be effectively blocked by bigger shields and it also depends on your current stamina if you get guardbroken (staggered while blocking). Contrary to the notion of shields being "easy-mode", it takes some practice and a considerable amount of skill to best utilize them. You have to manage your stamina more than with rolling, at least in newer Fromsoft titles.
As for rolling, what kind of roll to you do? It depends on the weight of your setup (if you're packed with shining metal armor, a big ass shield and a greathammer usually wielded by giants, you're not gonna be as nimble on your feet as a naked dude running around with a toothpick for a weapon). You can check in your equipment menu on the right side. I'd advise going for med. weight, which allows for a standard set of armor, a good weapon/shield combo and a roll that's good enough for most attacks, at least in the beginning (speaking for experience)
Other than that, the only thing I can say is, practice and memorization are the keys to defeating anything in these games. You'll get annihilated, but bit by bit you learn the patterns and find the windows of opportunity to strike and to heal if necessary.
It also helps to try out new strategies (for example different weapons) and experiment what feels the most rewarding and successful. Different enemies have different resistances that can make certain approaches more painful than others.
What kind of shield do you have? Regular/small or something on the heavier side? Bigger attacks can only be effectively blocked by bigger shields and it also depends on your current stamina if you get guardbroken (staggered while blocking). Contrary to the notion of shields being "easy-mode", it takes some practice and a considerable amount of skill to best utilize them. You have to manage your stamina more than with rolling, at least in newer Fromsoft titles.
As for rolling, what kind of roll to you do? It depends on the weight of your setup (if you're packed with shining metal armor, a big ass shield and a greathammer usually wielded by giants, you're not gonna be as nimble on your feet as a naked dude running around with a toothpick for a weapon). You can check in your equipment menu on the right side. I'd advise going for med. weight, which allows for a standard set of armor, a good weapon/shield combo and a roll that's good enough for most attacks, at least in the beginning (speaking for experience)
Other than that, the only thing I can say is, practice and memorization are the keys to defeating anything in these games. You'll get annihilated, but bit by bit you learn the patterns and find the windows of opportunity to strike and to heal if necessary.
It also helps to try out new strategies (for example different weapons) and experiment what feels the most rewarding and successful. Different enemies have different resistances that can make certain approaches more painful than others.
I'm the Hero, so I have a round shield and a one-handed Axe.
@Johnny:
I'm the Hero, so I have a round shield and a one-handed Axe.
Yeah, that's a smaller shield. Bigger ones usually have a heftier strength requirement.
Get a good feel on the roll-dodge, and practice. Try another weapon, see how that feels. It mostly comes down to this, especially in the early game where you don't have a whole arsenal of weapons of varying deadliness.
Playing the game really slow and have only put about ten hours into the game so far. Love the game so far, so much to find and can come across something new just traveling around. Have made a general rule of not using the warp function outside a few select situations since retreading areas has led me to new secrets. Have yet to beat a story boss, only beating an optional boss in a cave and the super enemy when you get into the world proper. All in all, combat is pretty fun, but I still stand by Sekiro being the best combat from the games I have played by From Soft. Have to mention again that this is the first open world game that has really clicked for me, wanting to really explore and get excited to find even the smallest little secret.
If there is one thing that may get on my nerves on the open world aspect is finding the necessary materials to upgrade equipment. In past games you are limited in where to go so as you went through the game you started off getting the lowest level material for upgrading and as you got further in the better material became available and more common. In Elden Ring, I have a good chunk of upgrade material, but most of them are higher level stuff, having found very little of the basic material to start upgrading from the base equipment levels. As nice as it is to go somewhere else if you hit a wall, if I can't get what I need to make myself more powerful it might make fights frustrating still when I return. Not a huge deal now as exploring is my main objective right now.
Finally made some headway into the game and beat an actual story boss. I had to spend some time grinding against certain enemies to get upgrade material, but once I got enough of the first level material was able to upgrade a number of times and have a pretty strong weapon. This game definitely expects you to explore for a while, leveling up your stats and getting better equipment before fighting any sort of boss. The boss I beat the first time coming across him could take me out in one to two hits, and I had few healing flasks that barely recovered my health. After about a dozen hours of exploring could take a lot more hits, heal more, and do a lot more damage. Outside of grinding for materials, it never feels boring getting levels since there is so much to explore and find that after a few hours of going places you can easily level up quite a bit.
I'm about 70 hours in and just got my 2nd great rune.
In many ways, the sense of scale is like breaking out of a matoryoshka. I was doubled over in laughter at the surprises in store for players with the map as they lay down each piece. Juggernaut. That's well and good but it's nothing if the world isn't brimming with content. Boy howdy, this game has content.
Amazing.
15 hours in and just barely got bloodhound's fang. My first Souls game and I am absolutely in love with it.
Preface this with loving the game and I found the entire first areas to be near perfection.
Gonna nitpick the area past/North of Stormveil castle though. I've been getting my first feelings of open world drain there. There's a lot of filler space around here. The enemies may still be plentiful; but going through an area with like, 7 giant land squids spread out and no real items to fight them over is kinda a drag. I guess I'm saying, it's the first time I'm finding myself fully wanting to skip lots of enemies.
This is my first souls game. I'm almost 30 hours in now and starting to understand things a little better. Here was my progress:
Started playing, left the graveyard and moved left. Died a couple of times in the dragon burnt ruins and almost got to the trap chest that would have sent me to Caelid but I got killed by the last enemy there. Revived back at the graveyard this time.
Left the graveyard again, 3 hours into the game, found the "First Step" grace.
Killed a bunch of soldiers, got killed by the same knight many times. Got the horse, learned how to crouch. Complained to a friend that I couldn't find any arrows yet and he told me about the merchant I missed.
Killed a lot more soldiers, failed to kill the knight, found my first dungeon but gave up on the boss. Found some stronger enemies on the world map and got used to killing them. Explored a lot of limgrave, got sent to Caelid by the chest trap that I almost reached on my first hour. Suffered trying to kill those monsters there but eventually gave up and just ran down and found an exit. Rode my horse all the way back to Limgrave, Explored all corners of it, then went north. Later went back and explored the peninsula too. Killed 5 bosses so far.
25 hours into the game. Asked a friend if there was any way to aim the knives like I aim the bow, he said no.
Me: "So they're useless?"
Him: "You can throw them with target lock"
Me: "… Target lock?"
Then commented about this on the internet today and learned that there was a tutorial I missed back in the graveyard.
So... loving the game so far.
i'm really excited to try this game during my vocation, can't wait
Well, I managed to kill that one soldier…by using the Samurai's bow. I don't think this is going to be a good portent of things to come.
How is the game with content? Is there a lot to do in the open world? It’s not just big and expansive I hope
Went back and played the tutorial. Learned three other things I had missed so far: charged attacks, counter attacks and …Running.
How is the game with content? Is there a lot to do in the open world? It’s not just big and expansive I hope
There's a lot of stuff to fight and a lot of items to collect. There's not much else but it never feels like there's not enough.
How is the game with content? Is there a lot to do in the open world? It’s not just big and expansive I hope
In my opinion.
This game manages to actualize what thousands of open world games have tried and failed, perfectly.
First of all. Exploration is really fun.
There are no icons, or waypoints or handholding in exploring the world.
Its all left up to you. You see a spot, think its interesting, ride there, find a small hidden path, follow it, find a dungeon, find some dangerous enemies, fight your way through, get cool loot.
You get all this much content, just by going off the beaten path, which is on another off the beaten path.
Its absolutely wonderfully.
I am genuinely fascinated by exploration because its incredibly rewarding.
Because there are no traditional mission structure, the game can just let you run free and not feel scared that it won't guide you on how to complete a quest and progress the game.
Here, you can bypass a shit tonne of "important" golden path stuff and not only never notice, never feel regret even if you do.
Cause you can just go back to that area and do it.
This is the future of open world gaming.
Well….I am just not sure this is the game for me. It's beautiful, very explorative, interesting story, but I just don't like how easy it is to be killed. Like the soldiers in the first area, it's manageable when it's just one of them, but as soon as there's two, it becomes wayyy more harder. And if there's three or four, then kiss your ass goodbye.
It might not be for everyone and that's okay. It's a game that demands a certain kind of mindset (the mindset of not really minding dying all the time). Sometimes I get annoyed and lowkey furious even, but I've learnt to see the humour in me dying in various ways.
It can be grueling, but that's kinda the point in a certain way. It's a challenge you have to conquer, a mountain you have to climb. What I really like about it is that no matter how many times and enemies ambush, flatten, annihilate, destroy, devour and slay you, you get to start over from the same position. I guess it's kinda like learning an instrument, or a trick or a tough dance number. You stumble, you fall, you make mistakes but each time you get back up and slowly you master your way through your goal.
Depending on your build and playstyle, you can play your way around the enemies. They have pretty consistent tells (especially the soldiers) that you can exploit a lot of the times. You can bait them into narrow corridors, or around corners so you can land one or two hits on one of them while the other's have no clear sight on you. When you backstab one of them, you are invulnerable while the animation lasts. Enemies are just as prone to falling off high places as you. Use the surroundings, make them bump into random shit.
Put some points into Vigor (the health stat), so you can take more hits. It's an all-around useful stat, especially for beginners. Take it slow, play defensively and pay attention to what the enemy's doing and find those little windows of opportunity.
@Johnny:
Well….I am just not sure this is the game for me. It's beautiful, very explorative, interesting story, but I just don't like how easy it is to be killed. Like the soldiers in the first area, it's manageable when it's just one of them, but as soon as there's two, it becomes wayyy more harder. And if there's three or four, then kiss your ass goodbye.
Things that help for Darksouls if you're a newer player
-invest points heavily into health
-get a really good shield.
-DON'T fight everything. Only fight when you need to. 99% of the time you can just run past enemies or lure them into a more advantageous place to fight.
-it's okay to summon other players to help you out. Vets love helping. ER also has AI summons that can help.
For investing into health, The pure ability to tank 6 or 7 hits before you die rather than 2 goes a long, long way towards being able to practice an enemy and give you some leeway to screw up. And having a shield with 100% damage resistance that lets you fully block attacks is really helpful too when you're learning patterns.
(I won't suggest going for good armor because that can slow you down if you don't have the stats for it and hurt more than it helps.)
The opposite is also true. Put points into strength… (or whatever appropriate skill tree you're focusing on) being able to kill enemies in one hit instead of 3 also makes a big difference.
-dodge rolls are your friend. You're basically invincible during them. Lets you escape or get behind an enemy.
-backstabs are your other friend. Crouchign lets you surprise them and take them one by one.
-New strat to Elden Ring? Jump attacks are your friend. Enemies have a hard time blocking those.
Or go heavy on magic and long range everything. Or hide around corners and lure enemies out one by one.
Yes, if you just charge into a cluster of enemies, you're going to get your butt kicked. So play it smarter. Its a game of patience more than brute force. It should be very very rare where you're actually fighting a mob all at once in the first place. If you get swarmed, back off and run a little then take them one at a time as they come... don't just keep trying to brute force your way through them all.
Mostly, just get used to the deaths as learning experiences. It takes a specific mindset. Once you accept that you're going to die a lot as you figure an area out, it gets easier. Heck, a long accepted strat is to run through an area at top speed, grab the item reward at the end of it, and then die. You keep the item, it doesn't matter if the enemies toasted you after.
And everyone dies a lot, even vets, its not you being bad, that's just how the games work. And ER is more save point friendly than the older games.
It IS frustrating, and it IS a different mindset to get behind. But take it slow and careful and you'll be fine. Later on once you have the rhythms down better you'll be able to deal with bigger groups. EVERYONE has a hard time with that wall at first, and the constant deaths are frustrating. But they you break through the wall and you get used to it and start getting a handle on the death system and it becomes fine.
EVERYONE goes through it for their first Souls game. First tiem I played Dark Souls I nearly threw y controller across the room because I kept getting killed by a lot of mook enemies and couldn't even GET to a boss to try him... so it felt like every time I was wasting 20 minutes just to make the attempt. But then I learned the layout of the area and where the enemies would be and started being able to just run past them and get to the boss gate without fighting a single guy unless I wanted to.
And really, invest in health. Put all your early levels into health. 800 or 1000 hp instead of 500 is just SUCH a difference maker.
Astrologer/sorcery are massively overpowered at the beginning, too, so that might be a better way to ease into it. Doing a fresh run with sorcery and got the first hard boss second try with wolf ashes and beginning spells at probably a dozen levels lower than my first time through.
Hang in there, Kierkegaard.
Astrologer/sorcery are massively overpowered at the beginning, too, so that might be a better way to ease into it. Doing a fresh run with sorcery and got the first hard boss second try with wolf ashes and beginning spells at probably a dozen levels lower than my first time through.
Maybe it was just me, and the roads I've taken, but it wasn't as much of a breeze for me as you describe. I'm still on my first playthrough.
! Godrick was the first big obstacle, because magic did fuck all on him and I had to rely on the jellyfish summon to poison him.
I went to Lucaria (so northwards) next, and Rennalla was another boss laughing at my spells. At that point, I still had, like, 3 usable spells, but had a poisoning weapon art, so I could beat her after I memorized every damn move she had.
! As for minibosses, yeah, some of them were laughable, because one not even high level spell tore a sizable chunk out of their hp.
! Aside from Godrick, I haven't used creature summons in any other bossfight (I summoned the NPCs for Radahn, because of a questline).
I grant you that a lot of early spells are very fp efficient, in that they don't use a lot of fp but still deal good damage. Some enemies can get a bit pesky though with dodging the projectiles.
Well, it doesn't hurt that I stumbled into a pretty overpowered staff early on thanks to a notorious teleportation trap and some wandering afterwards. But I still think Pebble spam was doing a lot more at low levels than my low-level melee stuff. Admittedly, hadn't hit the boss you mentioned being a problem yet, and I did notice humanish enemies with rolls were fast becoming a problem.
Yeah, that staff slaps early to midgame (what I assume midgame is anyway).
I guess it also depends on what kind of melee stuff you were doing. In my DS playthroughs, I found certain weapon types a lot more effective (at least early game, with no updates and minimal levelling) that others. A nice stunlock from a mace can do wonders with smaller to mid-sized enemies (and sometimes bigger ones too), and they're not overly slow, nor are they skillcap heavy (esp. while two-handing them).
About 40 hours into the game. Beaten the first main boss. and a ton of little ones. I don't know that I've done everything in the starting area but I think I've done everything. I've done a lot in Caelid, the red zone of death, where I'm obviously not supposed to be yet but its got really good loot and leveling stuff. Couple different bosses and areas in there I've noped out of for now.
Finally making my way up north and there's a ton to do there. Random teleporter trap have taken me… places. Going with my usual tank with heavy weapon and big shield build. Magic stuff looks fun and interesting, but kinda got to minmax since later levels are so expensive.
I've played and beaten all the Souls games and while nothing is ever going to beat Dark Souls 1 and its super intertwined map and shortcuts, the open world is working really well for me. Being able to leave and come back is nice... though my levels and gear are reaching a point I'm starting to conquer everything with low stress, (And I know to just run past mobs when there's too much mob) so definitely need to move on.
Love that there's actually a reason to use heavy attacks now for staggers. And shield counters! It's not just spam R1 anymore! Dedicated jump button is a much appreciated feature.
I'mm using Guts' Sword, Bloodhound's Fang, and a lance. Wanna level up a hammer or a mace once I have more material to spare.
I'm scared of Caelid. And the Plateau is very pretty to look at but the enemies and bosses there are brutal. I don't think I'm ready for it at level 70 just yet.
I have to say, even though this game is too hard for me, it's really quite pretty. I just wish there were more friendly NPC and towns to make it seem more alive.
Oh. My. God. The Reykard fight was so awesome O.o
! It felt like I was actually in hell, fighting this satanic absolute abomination with my god slayer ultra sword
The cutscene, the visuals, the music. And that character design, jesus. I´m not the biggest fan of open world exploration games, but holy hell I love these bosses man. Can't wait to get to Leyndell and see what this Morgott fellow is about.
Beat the game. This might be Fromsoft's magnum opus.
I feel this might be the easiest and hardest souls game because the experience was mostly a breeze for me and then you get to the end game zones where enemies hit like a truck and there are segments which are absolutely broken and badly designed like the super boss or the second phase of the final boss. The game really needs some balancing and fine tuning, I guess something like this is expected when you have a game of such massive scale.
With that said, it is visually stunning at all times, I am shocked that the game never stopped doing something new and creative and intriguing right up to the final zone, there is a lot of asset reuse but most of the time it's done in very clever and intriguing ways that help enrich the world and make it more lavish and real. It never feels like the game runs out of steam. Also this really does have some of the best boss concepts and boss battles in the franchise, some of these bosses to me are peak Fromsoft.
GOTY easily.
I'm scared of Caelid. And the Plateau is very pretty to look at but the enemies and bosses there are brutal. I don't think I'm ready for it at level 70 just yet.
Your horse is immune to poison, and you can run past damn near everything. There is almost no fighting you actually need to do there. There's a couple bosses out of league in the section but you should be more than capable of dealing with it at 70, I was playing around in it super early.
I knew I was clearly not supposed to be there, but I was able to survive and get gear and beat up some of the weaker dungeons and bosses without much trouble.
99% of the time you are not meant to fight everything in your way, you can almost always run past, it takes enemies time to notice you and get up and start attacking.
