Chapter 862: The Intelligent Ones
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Thanks Kishido!
Good chapter!
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Thanks as always Kishido. Off to read
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Awesome chapter…
Pudding
Pudding still is strange and creepy… But Let us see how it plays out... As I said in the spoiler thread... I think the third eye ability is already unlocked but cuz of her past she never said it to Big Mom for reasons.
And with her partial redemption we might learn what it is really for... even in long terms... if you know what I mean.Sanji/Katakuri
As much as I would love to see Sanji beat the shit out of his family… I think this fight may be settled... And the Vinsmokes have to realize sooner or later that the failure is actually the one who saved their asses.
And I really want to know what people will think of Sanji if he is able to beat Katakuri... An over 1 billion yonkou core member...But well I will let it be... for nowOthers
Jinbe waking up Luffy was lol worthy
Really want to see what the Vinsmokes will do now… Will they realize the betrayal or will they blame Sanji at first
The ending scene was awesome... Luffy is just too hilarious. -
Please don't let Pudding turn good because of this…
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BTW so the Vinsmokes needs weapons to fight well?
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Never change Luffy. Never change! And I like the surprise with Pudding. Maybe there's hope after all.
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What if Katakuri will simply blame the priest and say they were up for a betrayal and the Vinsmokes will be against the SHs as well
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So Karakuri really can see the entire future, huh? Such hideous mistake from Oda, Kenbunshoku can work only on life beings.
Still, it was fun but bad, like reading a Bleach chapter.PD: Fuck Yeah!! I fulfilled one of my dreams!! to be the last post on the spoiler thread
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Oh that was a fantastic chapter. Lots going on and really interesting developments. Not even sure where it's gonna go now. Both Big Mom and Pudding are huge wild cards right now, as are the Vinsmokes and Straw Hats. Next chapter is gonna be chaos.
Also it seems Katakuri saw that Sanji dodged, but didn't realize til after the fact that it was his own shot that he dodged?
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BTW so the Vinsmokes needs weapons to fight well?
Well they do need weapons to be at their best I would say.
Thats what they need in such situation - to be at their best. Beside that Vinsmokes were hinted to be using their technology to help in fights.
I wonder what those gloves they all have can do and I think that Ichiji has some sort of power that gives him ability to fly- he was shown as only one that was not wearing those funky shoes that made rest of siblings fly.We have to acknowledge that all of them will fight their way out of island so its likely that Vinsmokes will get their weapons on the way back to their "castle".
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BTW so the Vinsmokes needs weapons to fight well?
I'm guessing they are talking about their battle armor. The ones with the hover boots. They probably aren't used to fighting without them.
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@Shobu:
So Karakuri really can see the entire future, huh? Such hideous mistake from Oda, Kenbunshoku can work only on life beings.
Still, it was fun but bad, like reading a Bleach chapter.PD: Fuck Yeah!! I fulfilled one of my dreams!! to be the last post on the spoiler thread
He saw a life being on the floor crying and then saw another life being dodging an attack. He did not understand why the first life being was on the floor. That concept is not flawed at all. He did not see the entire future. All he saw was snippets.
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As much as I would love to see Sanji beat the shit out of his family… I think this fight may be settled... And the Vinsmokes have to realize sooner or later that the failure is actually the one who saved their asses.
And I really want to know what people will think of Sanji if he is able to beat Katakuri... An over 1 billion yonkou core member...But well I will let it be... for nowThere is no chance in hell Sanji is gonna beat Katakuri. Not even a possiblity.
That being said, great chapter. Sanji dodging his attack like that, very nice.
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There is no chance in hell Sanji is gonna beat Katakuri. Not even a possiblity.
That being said, great chapter. Sanji dodging his attack like that, very nice.
Credit to @giantbiceps for the amazing gif!
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There is no chance in hell Sanji is gonna beat Katakuri. Not even a possiblity.
That being said, great chapter. Sanji dodging his attack like that, very nice.
We will see…
Agreeing with the dodging part
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Mangastream still use "dogtooth" smh
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He saw a life being on the floor crying and then saw another life being dodging an attack. He did not understand why the first life being was on the floor. That concept is not flawed at all. He did not see the entire future. All he saw was snippets.
I'm not referring to that, he says that he can't move recklessly cause an unstoppable situation is about to happen, which is the wedding cake being destroyed. He's smart enough to protect her mother and can't do much than that… maybe the title goes for him. Still, he got what would happen to the cake.
The only grasp of Kenbunshoku aside of life beings is the Voice of all things. But Karakuri apparently catches the attempt within spacetime, nothing of the sort presented before, that's what i meant.
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We will see…
Agreeing with the dodging part
I would love Sanji to kick Katakuri's ass but it wont happen, How can he lose to Vergo but win against Katakuri? Unless he gets a huge power up.
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There is no chance in hell Sanji is gonna beat Katakuri. Not even a possiblity.
That being said, great chapter. Sanji dodging his attack like that, very nice.
Imo is pretty clear that Sanji will get a huge power-up from this arc, which will be the awakening of his super-human powers (like the rest of his brothers)/
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I think Katakuri was just not expecting Sanji to have his CoO active, and of course with CoO if you both see the future you can both act accordingly (you can't predict with CoO what another guy is going to do if he is using CoO as well, unless yours reaches more into the future). I guess that escaping two years from Okamas helped Sanji develop it to a crazy extent.
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Awesome chapter.
Luffy's final entrance is… beyond words :wub:
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I would love Sanji to kick Katakuri's ass but it wont happen, How can he lose to Vergo but win against Katakuri?
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There is no chance in hell Sanji is gonna beat Katakuri. Not even a possiblity.
That being said, great chapter. Sanji dodging his attack like that, very nice.
Imo was pretty clear from the beginning that Sanji will get a huge power-up from this arc, which will be the awakening of his super-human powers (like the rest of his brothers).
I don't see him beating now Katakouri mostly because they need to escape fast and beating Katakouri would require too much time which they don't have.
So the full fight simply won't happen. -
I would love Sanji to kick Katakuri's ass but it wont happen, How can he lose to Vergo but win against Katakuri?
How Luffy fight against Franky on equal foot, loser against Lucci on Water 7 jsut tpo beat him mere hours later?
Holy shit… Do not take the fights until the climax seriously
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Seems rushed to me
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Please don't let Pudding turn good because of this…
Pudding refrained herself from shooting Sanji in the most awaited moment of the arc because of some kind words, it seems obvious she will get kind of a redemption or this chapter would be a total nonsense.
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Glorious entry by Luffy!
Did the priest fire the gun? Because it looks like he did. Did the bullet go into the crowd beneath them or was it just a miss?
I'm glad they kept Pudding's flashback short just to explain her being overwhelmed and stunned by emotion. Even after being stunned it looked like she was intent on killing Sanji so I don't see the comment changing her too much, just acting as a way to stun her.
Lol at Jinbe's speech bubble piercing Luffy's head. I love the way that panel was drawn overall.
Also, Katakuri getting into a battle stance! So excited for what will come next!
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There is no chance in hell Sanji is gonna beat Katakuri. Not even a possiblity.
That being said, great chapter. Sanji dodging his attack like that, very nice.
It's funny how people were speculating before that luffy would take on a yonkou, and sanji+zoro would take on a commander each.. Now that the commanders have beem hyped up immensely, they think that the monster trio are way below commander tier.
And about luffy vs cracker, i stronly believe that luffy would have figured out a way to beat cracker without namis help like he always does.
I do believe that katakuri is stronger than sanji, but the main charactrs in shonen always get stronger by fighting stronger opponents.
I expect something great from sanji from the upcoming chapters, even if it won't be vs katakuri.
Just the fact that he was able to dodge a bullet from a direction he had no idea would come from is an incredible feat in my opinion, and dont forget that sanji also specializes in observation haki. -
Lol so predictable what would happen with Pudding and not in a good way this shit getting old Oda. What a cringy backstory for Pudding.
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It wasn't bad…but Oda chose to show "again" that Sanji's chivalry (though one could say pervertedness, if that's even a word) can and usually is a positive trait, and he did choose to not let the pretty girl be uber evil and instead be...bullied.
Which, as I said, isn't necessarily bad, just...feels like we've seen this before.
Though short, the chapter has fantastic art, and the ending is cool. Can people recognize who's supposed to be each Luffy based on their facial expressions?
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This won't happen, yet it hypes!
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Imo is pretty clear that Sanji will get a huge power-up from this arc, which will be the awakening of his super-human powers (like the rest of his brothers)/
Sanji is alrealdy super-human. He is stronger than 99% of all people in one piece and he clearly beat the shit out of his brother and was about to kick the other brother to a pulp. Sanjis "potential" already awakened during his life , he just needed a few more years compared to his brothers. I cant really see any power up here. that would just cheapen his training all thee years.
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There is no chance in hell Sanji is gonna beat Katakuri. Not even a possiblity.
That being said, great chapter. Sanji dodging his attack like that, very nice.
Well that also gives refreshed perspective on Sanji being unable to dodge Doflamingo here
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That attack was too wide to avoid from point blank so Sanji would need to have CoA stronger than Doflamingo to avoid getting cut…
Also if I get back to fight with Vergo - Sanji looked far more worried when he avoided kick to face from Vergo than he looked after avoiding Katakuris attack.
Oda is quite delicate with build up to reveal Sanjis trump card of an ability that he certainly has. I think we are 2/3 through this arc so plenty more action to see and I hope that some of Vinsmokes(Niji is numero uno here) will get their ass beaten badly before they can get their gear back and show us why they were so respected and hyped till now.
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Now Pudding and Sanji are official married.
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Seems rushed to me
Rushed would be if Luffy broke out of the cake in the middle of the chapter.
@TurtleFishGuy:Are you a retard?
The fuck, man?
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no,BAD oda,bad!
don't even try to redeem Pudding NOW..can't she just be evil at this point?
you already ruined the coherency of the story by making her eveil..and now you are gonna make her a misunderstood little snowflake?no,oda,no!other than that the visual of the dozens of luffys exploding from the cake looks good.
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Getting bullied in Totland for having three eyes? That's like getting fired from Apple for being gay.
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Am I the only one who liked the part with Pudding? It's not only surprising to her, but also us readers. Big Mom, collector and uniter of all races, yet os disgusted by her daughters third eye? That's amazing in a way.
It came from leftfield, was surprising and fit with her nasty personality. Not everything needs to have been mentioned beforehand, this was believable and well executed IMO.
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So Sanji finally made it, and all without failing to his own rules.
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Imo was pretty clear from the beginning that Sanji will get a huge power-up from this arc, which will be the awakening of his super-human powers (like the rest of his brothers).
I don't see him beating now Katakouri mostly because they need to escape fast and beating Katakouri would require too much time which they don't have.
So the full fight simply won't happen.I would rather say that Sanji will show his trump card during this arc. Something he came up with during 2 years of training on Okama island - my 2 guesses would be that he can use CoA hardening along with Diable Jambe to create Blue Fire that can even melt steel - he has "Diable… " boiling red attacks so him getting blue fire as contrast along with some "Angelo.." sort of named attacks would be really really cool.
It would also make a lot of sense for him as he is a son of devil(Judge) and angel(Sora, his mother).
Second power up I expect I already mentioned few times sooo…
When I seen Baki Dou manga I thought that it could be cool if Sanji beside Sky Walk learned some of Life Return techniques that would make his body more buff and extremely sturdy and refined muscles but it would make him look a bit monstrous/okamish so thats why he avoided using it before- for example against Vergo. After that fight he thought to himself that "if fight would continue like that he would have.." with a frowned face.. I always seen that as bit weird as after loosing to Doflamingo where ha had no chance to win all of what Sanji shown was perverted face when thiking about Violet…
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I enjoyed the chapter. Pudding was defeated by kindness :) and it wasn't like she changed her mind about killing him.
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With all the shit that's happening I think Big Mom's going to throw a huge temper tantrum and at that point will she even notice Mother Caramel's photo being torn apart? It seems like the plan just went down the toilet right out of the gate.
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What if Katakuri will simply blame the priest and say they were up for a betrayal and the Vinsmokes will be against the SHs as well
reiju can simply explain the situation for them..she wants to die but she also wants to save sanji,she is not gonna make his family fight against him without saying anything.
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Did the priest fire the gun? Because it looks like he did. Did the bullet go into the crowd beneath them or was it just a miss?
The way I understood it, the priest was about to fire (which Sanji would have dodged anyway as foreseen by Katakuri) but got shot himself before he could pull the trigger by Katakuri's bean (which Sanji unexpectedly dodged).
As for the crowd seeing/hearing a shot (not clear on this one), I'd put it down to the impact of the bean -
The way I understood it, the priest was about to fire (which Sanji would have dodged anyway as foreseen by Katakuri) but got shot himself before he could pull the trigger by Katakuri's bean (which Sanji unexpectedly dodged).
As for the crowd seeing/hearing a shot (not clear on this one), I'd put it down to the impact of the beanThe gun was smoking when Katakuri hit him.
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How do you get bullied for having 3 eyes when you're Big Mum's daughter and live on an island of freaks?
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I would love Sanji to kick Katakuri's ass but it wont happen, How can he lose to Vergo but win against Katakuri? Unless he gets a huge power up.
Simple he didn't actually lose to Vergo. Vergo just hurt him.