Obviously Kaido will go down one way or another, but it will be bullshit. Even with teamwork (which we will of course have) it’s bullshit that Luffy couldn’t tank one hit from him. Had he been able to fet pummeled a bit, as usual, there could be a way… I doubt it will now somehow feel believable at all to fight Kaido without some new power up, which of course would feel bs. The only thing I can legit think of is Moria coming back and Nightmare Luffy 2.0 tanking Kaido.

@choperman:

Honestly what I want to know is how on Earth Luffy can power up enough in the span of a few weeks to beat a guy who doesn't even flinch at the full force of his strongest attacks and effortlessly one shots him, well not even in zoan hybrid form, or his awakened form?

maybe we get a training arc, maybe Luffy has something that he never used before because the situation was never that desperate and it could hurt his crewmates, maybe he awakens his devil fruit, maybe some will of D thing or maybe a combination of all the above lol

seriously though I'm stumped, I doubt he'll do it alone but I'm not sure who could really help him, I mean Luffy landed attacks on him that have literally shattered islands I'm not sure how much help the rest of the straw hats or law/kid can be

I feel the same way.

Imo, Oda went way too far in showing big of a difference there is between them. Luffy went g4 and hit him with so many attacks… at thia point in the story I would have liked to see such a thing actually cause damage to someone.

If it turns out that Kaido’s weapon is made out of sea stone then fine... sure... he can one shot Pound man... if not, then it’s just bs.

Ooh another mystery person!

I wonder what sort of propaganda they were showing in the newspaper, or maybe it was just a dick pick?

This went down as I expected, but I really didn’t want it to. Not a fan at all of this chapter.

Blackbeard should be evil, guys. He needs the Devil devil fruit :ninja:

@Greg:

Oda actually has several Rox threads of foreshadowing available.

It's whether he decides to use them or not.

1. Most commonly referenced is Shakky who was supposedly an active pirate around that time.

2. Gloriosa was supposedly in love with someone when she was younger.

3. Recently Bakkin's involvement in piracy was around then.

4. Perhaps most interestingly (and largely undiscussed) is the mysterious destruction of Boodles' original town around the time Rox is believed to have been active.

Yeah definitely. Oda could (and hopefully will) weave in things that has been previously established in the story such as the examples you have given. Hopefully without making it feel like a retcon!

Btw, was it a correct translation that those people associated with Rocxks has been on the rise recently-ish? If so, then surely it can’t be referring to BM and Kaido’s actions as they have been in their position for years. So, from that statement (if the translation is proper), is it correct to interpret that something is being stirred up by such people that are thus far unknown to us readers?

I actually didn't consider Rocxks could be a movie-related thing. I hope not. Something feels a bit off with it though… the way it was introduced, it seems like that it could be a current or former group of powerful people (pirates). Both Kaido and BM were most likely part of that group, as it has been revealed to us that those two are acquinted from the past - that makes sense.

So the thing that feels off about it is, if the leader/captain of the group is still around he should probably be really old, no? Age doesn't necessarily mean all that much in OP, but nevertheless, still an old-timer. Hearing about him and that group of powerful people this late into the story doesn't feel right. If they were that powerful then Oda could have foreshadowed it better (although if this is the case, he probably came up with the idea after the fact that the world's power balance had been established).

But maybe they won't play a part in the story to come; maybe it was only brought up so that we would know that Kaido and BM knew each other. Still... the chekov's gun rule...

There is so much different from the translation from Jaimini and Mangastream… Jaimini's seem to align more with how the spoilers were phrased...

My guess for the oni part is that it just looks cool. Can't really question too much of the stuff in One Piece although, I definitely do not know anything about those mythological things, so perhaps there could be some reason I am not aware of.

Why would people necessarily be vocal about it if they agreed? People tend to be more vocal if they don’t agree with things. You give off the impression that people who didn’t spoke about it sooner are bullshitting or bandwagoning. Maybe I read into what you said the wrong way, but it is the impression you give off to me.

I dunno. It just made really sense that Kaido would have a really impressive zoan fruit and hints to a dragon were there.

Is there any specific mythology about eastern dragons that may hint to some of his abilities? For a western dragon an obvious ability would be to breathe fire and the ability to fly. So other than flying, is there something else we could expect?