Oda watches Game of thrones..decided to kill half of the crew
Chapter 805: The Mink Tribe
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there is no way that half the straw hat crew were just killed off screen considering fodder characters arnt even killed often especially when there was that whole sanji "wanted alive" thing that needs to be explained. They could be critically injured though.
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@Mr.:
The cover Story seems to suggest Chinjao but it could easily be someone else.
Oh, and there is some precedent for a cover story to handle a character introduced in a prior arc, such as the one with Gedatsu.
It's news spreading about Luffy and his new bounty (and the fall of Dofla, and maybe Law no longer being a warlord) and the reactions therof.
Just kind of weird that we're getting this when we got it right after the timeskip… but maybe the starting title is misleading.
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Half the crew is dead huh? Have to admit its not a twist I saw coming.
Oh well, we can replace them with minkmen for crewmates, it's fine. New dog girl Wanda is already better than Nami, Chopper stopped being cute a while ago so replacing him with carrot is fine, and Sanji has been insufferable for years so I'm okay with Law replacing his dynamic with Zoro. Did we know Bepo was a navigator before? Why else would Oda introduce that fact now if not to prepare us for the fact Nami and Chopper are gone forever. I'm really not a huge Law fan, but he is better than Sanji has been.
I assume Carrot must be the cook, which makes Wanda the musician. She has a sword, Brook had a sword, it makes sense.
Truly an interesting way to showcase that the new world legitimately is serious business.
Just make sure to get the sound dial out of Brook's skull and you can fill his promise for him, and overall things are fine. I'm okay with the new crew.
(as long as they don't touch Usopp and Robin)
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What a fun chapter! We knew Bepo was the navigator since a while back. Law told us his navigator drew up a map of Dressrosa, it had Bepo's print!
And full on confirmation about minks! Ever since that slave list many of us correctly predicted that Mink Men would explain the weird animal people that started to pop up around that time. A gorilla mink in a suit and tie with an Afro? It's everything I ever wanted! Donkey Kong One Piece style! Jack! Yahoo! One might think Drake was sent to that island to terrorize but that foot print was far too teddy bear to be him. I'm going to assume Jack is a big scary Zoan under Kaido as well.
So what's the catch with the crew? Jack certainly seems like the type that will go down only by Luffy so I could imagine him and his goons being too much for only half the crew, but come on dead? Hahaha! Maybe some sort of marage that Nami pulled off using Brook as a base to give the illusion that they all ended up as pile of corpses? At which point they just completely went into hiding? No way the Straw Hats die leaving Law's crew only wounded. Of course once Sheepshead and his girl reported back that the Straw Hats were on the island it's natural that they would be targeted by Jack. This is looking so fun! The forest might be sacred because once again a Poneglyph is being protected in the exact same way Alabasta and Shandora were protecting theirs.
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Yeah, I'm a little curious how they played opossum there to the point where Nami got looted. Well, except for Brook (arguably his greatest skill)
It's news spreading about Luffy and his new bounty (and the fall of Dofla, and maybe Law no longer being a warlord) and the reactions therof.
Just kind of weird that we're getting this when we got it right after the timeskip… but maybe the starting title is misleading.
Oh, right, right, right. Serious oversight on my part. Hoping this isn't one of those "everyone's reaction to his new bounty" cover stories and stays more focused on one story
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rip in peace sanji
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Fond of this ark so far, I laughed when Luffy said "This country looks like it is full of Choppers."
I feel bad for the two "penguin" guys from the Heart Pirates though, give them some background Oda! -
Everyone talking about that the news paper is about luffy 's new bounty. My first idea was it being about doflamingos defeat.
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All dead members can be revive by using Momonosuke DF power, the same way Kin'emon did when he died after Brook broke him. That's why his DF power's so important.
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Other way around, Jack was on Zou before he tried to get Doffy back.
I don't remember the man we saw with him on bandages
And he propably was furious b/c he lost DD that's why he attack them
And guys the claw marks are Pedro's is Lion Mink like Pekoms
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I hope the focus on Robin means poneglyphs
So Zoro was leading the way and they actually went where they wanted to go, guess his fight with Pica awakened his sense of directions
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@mario:
rip in peace sanji
Rest in pieces in peace?
So it seems Wanda was on good terms with the swirly hats. It does explain the week long gap, if they are comatosed or whatever. So does that mean that Jack took Caesar from them? I remember Kaido watching his broadcast on PH and summoning Jack.
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Everyone talking about that the news paper is about luffy 's new bounty. My first idea was it being about doflamingos defeat.
same thing
it's just 2 part news
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I bet Jack is the bear zoan. He has a huge size and claws. I don't know what else he could be.
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@mario:
rip in peace sanji
rip
in peace
Redundancy police will have your head.
EDIT: curse you ninja
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inb4 everyone starts whining b/c the Swirly Hat's are not gonna shine neither in this arc
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@The:
I don't remember the man we saw with him on bandages
And he propably was furious b/c he lost DD that's why he attack them
And guys the claw marks are Pedro's is Lion Mink like Pekoms
1. Around a week back the swirly hats were fighting Kaido's men on Zou, before DD was beaten.
2. Strawhats went straight for Zou after beating DD whereafter the marines shipped DD off to Impel Down (opposite direction of Zou). Time and speed wise it wouldn't make sense for Jack to be defeated by the marines and then be quicker than the strawhats to arrive at Zou. -
Jack has the chimera chimera no me and can turn into every animal he touches. He punched beppo in the face and is able to turn into a bear and he is literally standing on an elephant. bam explains the huge claw marks and the elephant foot prints
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@The:
I don't remember the man we saw with him on bandages
And he propably was furious b/c he lost DD that's why he attack them
And guys the claw marks are Pedro's is Lion Mink like Pekoms
It's just a matter of logical deduction, man.
1. When Jack attacked the marine ship escort, Luffy was already on his way to Zou
2. Unless Luffy got lost on the ocean for couple of weeks, it would not make sense for Jack to then turn back to Zou, bypass Luffy, wreck the kingdom, and a week or two later Luffy arrives in Zou.Timewise it would make far more sense that Jack wrecked up Mokomo, left Zou and headed towards Dressrosa, and then attacked the marine ship while Luffy was on his way to Zou.
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I'm hoping Sanji isn't being a hype tool again.
Be honest to yourself… You knowit will be like this. The quote that Sanji being with them by Zoro actually was a little hint to hype whatever happened to them
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Rest in pieces in peace?
So it seems Wanda was on good terms with the swirly hats. It does explain the week long gap, if they are comatosed or whatever. So does that mean that Jack took Caesar from them? I remember Kaido watching his broadcast on PH and summoning Jack.
Redundancy police will have your head.
EDIT: curse you ninja
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timeline is sure a bit foggy.. between what we saw of the curly eyebrows pirates 1 week ago dealing with Kaidou men, with Jack, also. more or less a week ago going for doflamingo.. so i doubt there was a direct interaction.. at least if I am not missing anything.
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I bet Jack is the bear zoan. He has a huge size and claws. I don't know what else he could be.
Pedro have claws
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It's just a matter of logical deduction, man.
1. When Jack attacked the marine ship escort, Luffy was already on his way to Zou
2. Unless Luffy got lost on the ocean for couple of weeks, it would not make sense for Jack to then turn back to Zou, bypass Luffy, wreck the kingdom, and a week or two later Luffy arrives in Zou.Timewise it would make far more sense that Jack wrecked up Mokomo, left Zou and headed towards Dressrosa, and then attacked the marine ship while Luffy was on his way to Zou.
But Bartolomeo and Luffy had a week lost on the way to Zou b/c they don't have a Navigator, the sea was against them and for gag/plot reasons
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can we get a timeline up in here?
Should be right, counting all the nights of sleep.
ah no i mssed up, sorry. land ph is 12, and land dr 11, also forgot to say land at zou for curly hairs, -8, so jack was not on Zou when SH's arrived.
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Perhaps Swarley and co. got trapped in a sealed room with a metal door…
Thus, unable to escape, they suffocated.
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also..i completelly missed that luffy went ahead and to the whale forest last chapter
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I'm surprised no one's thought Raizou might be using a Ninjutsu technique to make them appear dead or something along those lines.
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Be honest to yourself… You know it will be like this. The quote that Sanji being with them by Zoro actually was a little hint to hype whatever happened to them
Like with Vergo ? :sad:
I hope not. Well, we'll see next week anyway.Perhaps Swarley and co. got trapped in a sealed room with a metal door…
Sanji's final opponent ; the metal door. :ninja:
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I think Jack attacked Zou to look for Caesar clown.
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@S.C.:
I'm surprised no one's thought Raizou might be using a Ninjutsu technique to make them appear dead or something along those lines.
Would be cool… But doubt it
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Very nice chapter. Heart pirates reunion was quite good but I expected Law's crew to be more than 4 members by now. The straw hat adventure on Zou is so interesting and fun this arc already looks promising.
Some fickle fans in spoiler section label this arc boring but I disagree with them as we are only into second chapter and it sure looks interesting with all the minks and Jack stuff.
If only fans were more patient and enjoy the series as a whole and not just constant fighting and skirmishes in Op then they can truly enjoy Op in years to come. -
@The:
But Bartolomeo and Luffy had a week lost on the way to Zou b/c they don't have a Navigator, the sea was against them and for gag/plot reasons
No they didn't. It took a week because Zou itself was constantly on the move.
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I'm really hoping for a Kuro and Kreig update with the cover story… then again this is the East Blue in me.
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No they didn't. It took a week because Zou itself was constantly on the move.
Same thing
we don't know where was Jack and DD's convoy back then. Jack can easly fled from the battle and run on Zou on that day or the next and then just one week pass like that on Zou like the chapter says that is one week that he attack them
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What a weird and fun arc this is becoming. I don't how this is boring at all.
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It probably has something to do with the little kid hiding behind the trees (Swirly eyes team)
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Maybe it's because of my eccentric tastes, but i'm loving Zou. The Minks, the places, the situation, they are awesome!
It is so good to see Bepo again. He's definitely in my top 3 best characters since before the timeskip(a very cute talking polar bear who fights with martial arts! Who wouldn't love it ?). And the other minks are as awsesome. They all look so cool to me, and it seems that they are very strong to.
As was said before me, it is impossible that the rest of the crew are really dead. Or Wanda did only see Brook, or some very strange power was used against them.
With all of this, an idea comes to me. Do you people think that the minks could allie themselves with the StrawHearts to take down Jack and Kaido? As strong as they seems to be, i think would be a very good help.
Note: Excuse me if i wrote something strange, if my gramatics is wrong or sucks. As i am not from a English speaking nation. So if you want to point some flaws with it, feel free to do it, it would help me actually. Thanks for your patience.
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@The:
Same thing
we don't know where was Jack and DD's convoy back then. Jack can easly fled from the battle and run on Zou on that day or the next and then just one week pass like that on Zou like the chapter says that is one week that he attack them
Uh, HT
Luffy & co would have had to take two weeks to get to Zou at the fastest for your theory to be possible.
The marine ships left Dressrosa AFTER Luffy.
While Luffy was on their way to Zou, Jack was attacking the marine ship.If it only took Luffy & co a week to get to Zou, Jack would have had to INSTANTLY TELEPORT to Zou and destroy it week before Luffy got there.
Remember, Robin and others are saying it's been a week or two since the kingdom was destroyed.
Again, since you seem to be having hard time getting this sorted out,
A week ago from the current time, Luffy barely set sail from Dressrosa, and around this time is the latest time Mokomo dukedom could have been destroyed by Jack (as stated in this chapter).
Shortly after Luffy left Dressrosa, Jack is seen attacking the marine ship.
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I think Jack attacked Zou to look for Caesar clown.
Possibly, but how did he know he was there. Either way, there's a very good chance Caesar Clown was taken. Though I hope now because that would make the Swirleyhats' mission a near complete failure.
There's also the chance that Kaido has been planning some sort of mass-recruitment of minks in his pirate syndicate leading to many of the citizens of the capital to be forcibly captured by Kaido's men, press-ganging the strong ones and selling the weak ones as slaves. You know, because of his "of the beasts" moniker I would assume he has a fairly large affinity to mink. It's possible he attempted some sort of revolution on Zou but ultimately failed given how vacant the capital is
And speaking of Caesar Clown, perhaps he's responsible for making them "corpses" by putting them into some sort of catatonic state.
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Like with Vergo ? :sad:
I hope not. Well, we'll see next week anyway.Sanji's final opponent ; the metal door. :ninja:
Speedreaders making themselves obvious as usual, complaining about a metal door on PH that never existed, and parroting the term "hype tool" which you obviously don't understand.
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@The:
Same thing
we don't know where was Jack and DD's convoy back then. Jack can easly fled from the battle and run on Zou on that day or the next and then just one week pass like that on Zou like the chapter says that is one week that he attack them
We do know their directions, which are opposite of eachother. If you have to make mental leaps to support your argument than you could argue anything that isn't factual yet. Like Aohige said, it's just logical deduction…
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Speedreaders making themselves obvious as usual, complaining about a metal door on PH that never existed, and parroting the term "hype tool" which you obviously don't understand.
Hello there.
The Metal Door on PH is a meme, just in case. Don't take it too seriously.
And it did exist ;!
–" and parroting the term "hype tool" which you obviously don't understand. " well then, explain it to me, please. :happy:
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Shit got real, real fast! I like it!
Also Jack hyype, hoping for a serious design "like" kaidou and unlike Weeble. -
Sanji's final opponent ; the metal door. :ninja:
Dunno if you are serious with one but I will ask… Do you know the reason why Sanji wasn't able to "beat" the door?
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Uh, HT
Luffy & co would have had to take two weeks to get to Zou at the fastest for your theory to be possible.
The marine ships left Dressrosa AFTER Luffy.
While Luffy was on their way to Zou, Jack was attacking the marine ship.If it only took Luffy & co a week to get to Zou, Jack would have had to INSTANTLY TELEPORT to Zou and destroy it week before Luffy got there.
Remember, Robin and others are saying it's been a week or two since the kingdom was destroyed.
Again, since you seem to be having hard time getting this sorted out,
A week ago from the current time, Luffy barely set sail from Dressrosa, and around this time is the latest time Mokomo dukedom could have been destroyed by Jack (as stated in this chapter).
Shortly after Luffy left Dressrosa, Jack is seen attacking the marine ship.
I think? I got it right
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The thing is… Laws crew should've met swirly's team!!! How come they didn't? And if they did how come they're not "dead" too? And ceasar? Isn't he like super strong too?! I bet they are on some spiritual journey or some shit and assumed dead as they didn't come back at the expected time or something! Probably as an escape route!! with the bodies safe or something. Brook will bring them back eventually. Went full yolo but whatever :p
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What if the dead strawhat bodies are just a result of Brook's new awaken powers after the timeskip?
He is the soul king so he could take other people's souls out of their bodies, the same way he goes
out of his body, and the bodies appear to be dead.Maybe he did that because they were in danger and he wanted to to trick the enemy…
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I hope for the Raizou theory…
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@LordEnel:
I think? I got it right
Yeah, that sounds right.
Assuming Robin's deduction is correct, which we have no reason to doubt.I would put "Jack is seen plotting to recover Doffy from the marine ship" after leaving DR part, as this part is concrete in time.
(since we know Luffy left DR before the marines)