Ok, my second student isn't coming so i guess i have time before i go. It seems a second picture of military in downtown spread around but that one was from yesterday when they cancelled the parade. The ones i shared with you does seem to be authentic tho, can't find any info that says otherwise.
Conversatory about Ayotzinapa happening in California: http://new.livestream.com/43Global/USC (live)
Earth on track to the warmest year on record:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/11/20/earth-on-track-to-warmest-year-on-record-says-noaa/?tid=sm_fb
Global warming? Climate change? What's that, say you ultra-conservative deniers? THIS, MOTHERFUCKERS.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=794165753958452&set=vb.180812578627109&type=2&theater Video of the protest.
And with that i'm off guys. If everything goes alright i'll be back in the night.
Working thru some stuff. Dunno how long i will be here.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=794165753958452&set=vb.180812578627109&type=2&theater Video of the protest.
And with that i'm off guys. If everything goes alright i'll be back in the night.
Best of luck to you, and the folks involved!
And with that i'm off guys. If everything goes alright i'll be back in the night.
Stay safe!
More protests in the US planned for December 3rd:
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2014/11/19/activists-plan-protests-in-54-us-cities-on-dec-3-for-missing-mexican-students/
Earth on track to the warmest year on record:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/11/20/earth-on-track-to-warmest-year-on-record-says-noaa/?tid=sm_fb
People in certain parts of the U.S. might glare at you for posting this.
Zócalo, main square of the capital of Mexico (Mexico City), sees mass protests regarding the 43 missing students from Ayotzinapa who were murdered, on today, 20th November day when the Mexican Revolution started in 1910.http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-30127458
lol so it's going to be like that everywhere except the eastern half of the US and Canada, plus Siberia and Kazakhstan for some reason.
And Pakistan and Bengal.
Chicago apparently to be new throne city of Snow Miser.
The northeast is basically in Stark mode, naturally it's going to be hot as shit everywhere else.
@Cyan:
The northeast is basically in Stark mode, naturally it's going to be hot as shit everywhere else.
The heck is Stark mode?
Best of luck to you, Prismeru. Be safe.
@Monkey:
Complex Answer: Partly.
Basic Answer for all intents and purposes: Yes.
I would be happy to learn the complex answer from you.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=794165753958452&set=vb.180812578627109&type=2&theater Video of the protest.And with that i'm off guys. If everything goes alright i'll be back in the night.
Cuidate mucho, mi estimado. Eres joven aún. Debido a mi ubicación no existen muchas protestos por estos rumbos en el Norte pero siempre hay apoyo.
thai students adopt the hunger games hand sign as a form of political protest
imo… this is too cool!!!
Well, shit. The part about being killed or they beating the shit out of me was a joke…But it was close guys. Too close. Just a little more time and right now i would be in jail and maybe with a rubber bullet in my body. Let me gather myself (just got here) and i'll tell what happened to me and my friends (nothing THAT bad).
edit: But no matter what i tell you guys please keep this one imagen in your head: https://www.facebook.com/usauncut/photos/a.190167221017767.44131.186219261412563/868539829847166/?type=1&theater
This is México, we are alive and we want justice. Also, they are burning an effigy of the president. Lol.
At least you made it out in one piece. I hope everyone is okay.
Ok, here it goes.
I went out of my house at like 6:20 and went to the place where i would meet up with my friends to join the protest. One of them was still in class so we ended up joining the protest really late (at like…7:50 i guess?) so the four of us went to find another friend that went ahead and was already in El Zócalo (downtown). We walked all the way through Reforma (one of the main streets that goes straight to El Zócalo). So far so good, People looked hopeful but a little sad. Signs were everywhere.
We arrived at downtown and my friend wasn't where she said she would be with her husband (well, we were an hour late after all). We called her and she told us she was near the downtown and that we should go find her. We decided to enter through one of the side streets to El Zócalo. We started to walk and a lot of people were already leaving. Two streets in and i felt a horrible sinking thing in my gut. The mood in the air had changed for the worst. I felt really bad. A lot of negative feelings were in the air. So much you could almost feel them. I waved my hand in front of me as if i could touch them. I told my friends about it and we kept walking. In the next street there were suspicious people and a two large gatherings who were looking at the second floor of a building where guys in black were looking at them. A few steps after, the police were closing the metro stations and wouldn't let people in. It was a little weird. We kept walking.
In the next street (they are short streets) we found our friend with her husband and another friend. We didn't understand why they weren't feeling bad. The Feeling in the air was horrible. They wanted to go closer to El Zócalo. We took yet another side streeet (Donceles) to move forward. But when we were walking towards Donceles (the other side street) i couldn't resist anymore. I told them: "Something is terribly wrong". Another friend of mine confirmed it. She was also feeling bad.
Donceles was empty. "There is a lot of people in here. It doesn't make any sense for Donceles to be empty. We should leave" i told them and everyone agreed. While we were walking i realized. They were directing the people to 5 de mayo and Tacuba. In those streets there wouldn't be as much cameras as in Madero who is the main access. That way they wouldn't have to worrry of being caught in tape. It felt like a mouse trap. I kept feeling really bad and something inside of me told me i should scream. Should warn everybody of the danger. But i kept quiet. Maybe i was being paranoid and causing chaos in this kind of gathering would be a tragedy. We just kept walking away from El Zócalo.
We were like 5 streets aways and we started to feel safe. Our friend that arrived early decided to call it a day. One of our friends was hungry so we decided to go to a restaurant. We chose one that was kinda far from the El Zócalo but it's still downtown. We entered and ordered something. Just then my friend checked his phone. Police had entered and evacuated El Zócalo with tear gas. Also police was detaining and beating people in the streets (just were we had been in fact). We couldn't go out or they would detain us or worse. The restaurant was the only thing between us and the police.
Edit 2: So we had to stay at the restaurant. They had boarded the windows everywhere so they wouldn't destroy them with rocks. We were protected but we couldn't see what was happening outside. I saw that we weren't the only ones. A lot of costumers were dressed in black (people proposed that we should all dress in black. My friends did. I couldn't find clean clothes so went in white) and they all had worried looks on their faces. In facebook people were sharing photos of people being beaten, some being shot with rubber bullets and more. It was our only way of knowing what was happening outside. I asked friends in facebook to let me know if it was safe for us to leave. They told me to keep still. Suddenly the restaurant turned the volume up. The music started to sound so loud. Loud enough for us to not hear what was happening outside. But we had Facebook. We knew what was happening. And we started to be afraid. Not just me and my friend but everyone in the restaurant. Silent night (you know, the christmas jingles) was playing inside. Outside people were screaming but we couldn't hear them. When one song ended we managed to hear a patrol speeding by. It was hell.
Half an hour in we finished eating. We were debating whether to go out or not. After much discussion we went to peek outside. They had shut the doors. Whatever it was. The restaurant didn't want to let us go. My friend said it was hell. Knowing what was happening outside but had to listen to pseudo-soothing music inside. It was.
After like an hour and a half (i can't really tell how much fear, paranoia, sadness and anger we felt). They finally let us go. Before we went out we made some preparations. I told my friends to hide their school id (Being a student in a Protest in México is no good). Check if our cellphones had enough charge so if any of us got detained we could film it and upload it to the web (a way of documenting it and guaranteeing at least the life of the one being detained). We didn't but we didn't have any other choice. We got out and walked through Reforma so we could take a cab. We saw two buses full of police going to El Zócalo. It wasn't over...but what could we do? If we tried to make an uproar it would have been the end of us. We were just rats trying to get home and not get squished. We were already far from El Zócalo but we didn't feel safe. I still feel afraid. Not for me but for a lot of people that is right now in custody. And we were close. really close. A few minutes more and maybe...well.
And sorry if this sounded too dramatic but i guess i wrote what i felt. Tomorrow i'll try to bring english sources on all that happened.
Working thru some stuff. Dunno how long i will be here.
^ Damn, that sounds like an insanely frightening experience.
Glad you're safe, Prismeru.
The part where you and your friends got trapped in the restaurant and they put the music on to cover the sounds from the outside… so scary man, I am glad that you and your pals are safe. But really, the way you described it, with you people eating inside and all the songs, and the people outside screaming and getting owned... Hellish.
Earth on track to the warmest year on record:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/11/20/earth-on-track-to-warmest-year-on-record-says-noaa/?tid=sm_fb
That's funny, because today it was warmer than usual for being November and yesterday it was cold. Oh, well, guess we will get another ice age like in 'Snowpiercer'.
I'm not linking all the info about what happened after cause you guys can't read spanish and in the end you would only see people being beaten by cops…and i'm not fucking Gawker to be doing that kind of shit.
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Dilma Rosseff feels sorry for him, but still sits at the far side of his comically large table.
Rousseff wants to know how much Putin paid Blatter and his cronies for the World Cup to see if she was ripped off or not.
Knowing Putin's huge ego and image as the Alpha Alpha Alpha male, seeing him treated like Milhouse is honestly one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.
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THE SOVIET UNIONS BACK!! IN POG FORM!!
Pretty funny. Most of the top comments on that video are in Russian, I bet they are glorifying Putin while denouncing America and the rest of the free world.
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Dumb Russians live vicariously through Putin as their national ego is in a constant state of bruise.
So in other words those same dumb Russians have been en mass awkwardly sat alone at a table until that one girl sort of sat nearish them yet far enough away that it looks somehow even worse than being completely alone. Meanwhile their "BEST FRIEND" China sits with American and laughs and talks.
Also their on again off again girlfriend who hangs out with the ASSHOLE NATO JOCKS just dumped them.
Russia is probably going to go home and beat the shit out of their little sister Ukraine.
Russia has never forgiven that time that Europe stuffed him into a locker. Despite the fact that Europe has grown up into a decent young family man with a steady job while Russia is a bitter ex-con who refuses to look for a real job.
Great and funny analogies. Thanks for the link, I always learn new stuff here.
Pretty funny. Most of the top comments on that video are in Russian, I bet they are glorifying Putin while denouncing America and the rest of the free world.
No, it's mostly russians vs ukrainians in comment section, throwing insults toward each other, and their presidents. Obama is only mentioned in context of -well he is sitting by himself too. And that arab emirates president (?) didn't sit together with Obama, which is supposedly a good sign.
@Lef:
No, it's mostly russians vs ukrainians in comment section, throwing insults toward each other, and their presidents. Obama is only mentioned in context of -well he is sitting by himself too. And that arab emirates president (?) didn't sit together with Obama, which is supposedly a good sign.
Thank you for the clarification. I think what you mean by "arab emirates president" is Salman bin Abdulaziz, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.
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Thank you for the clarification. I think what you mean by "arab emirates president" is Salman bin Abdulaziz, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.
I checked again, and yes the comment was talking about Saudi Arabia, dunno why I mixed the two.
@Lef:
No, it's mostly russians vs ukrainians in comment section, throwing insults toward each other, and their presidents. Obama is only mentioned in context of -well he is sitting by himself too. And that arab emirates president (?) didn't sit together with Obama, which is supposedly a good sign.
UAE isn't in G20, that would be the Saudis.
Obama sitting alone really wouldn't make sense given he's buddies with Cameron, and would at the least be on easy terms with Harper, Erdogan, and Hollande. He's shown walking out chatting with Xi Jiping and the Australian asshole guy.
It's well established that Putin got nonstop shat on at the G20, plus the thing about him leaving early out of a hissy fit being tired.
Funniest of all is that article I posted where he and Merkel had an off the books meeting at a hotel, lasting six hours, and whatever the hell happened ended with her turning against him totally and him leaving was his own next action.
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@Lef:
I checked again, and yes the comment was talking about Saudi Arabia, dunno why I mixed the two.
Do Russians think the Saudis and Americans are good friends lol.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153513072659657
A video of how they evacuated El Zócalo with tear gas. The people talking in the back are just cursing out of anger.
@Monkey:
Do Russians think the Saudis and Americans are good friends lol.
Their governments seem to be on friendly terms.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153513072659657
A video of how they evacuated El Zócalo with tear gas. The people talking in the back are just cursing out of anger.
The link leads me to this; "The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page".
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Their governments seem to be on friendly terms.
Friends of the US are countries with actual historical or current ties, similarities, and cultural ties as well.
For the US this covers Canada, most of Europe, Australia, and the democratic nations on Asia's far east fringe.
Also from what I have gleaned certain among African countries have their various warm feeling toward the US, and Morocco has the longest strangest relationship to us.
Saudi is purely strategic. Most western nations have this same relationship with them, in fact so does most of the world due to their oil.
Ask people on the street in the US about say Japan, you'd probably get mostly positive respones and at the least a feeling that they're peaceful allies we can rely on for this and that, and also they might have made our car and video games.
Ask about Canada. People might make fun of them a bit, but in the warmest sense like siblings. Mostly it will end up positive, and if if in some crazy twist Canada fell under attack…well let's just say that would never ever ever sit with the US.
Ask an American about Saudi Arabia and uh...well...er... that "crazy scary fundamentalist place where women are treated like shit that has lots of oil" would be the gist of it.
I imagine the reverse is completely true as well, regarding Saudis toward us.
Their governments seem to be on friendly terms.
The link leads me to this; "The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page".
Weird, they deleted the video.
@Monkey:
Friends of the US are countries with actual historical or current ties, similarities, and cultural ties as well.
For the US this covers Canada, most of Europe, Australia, and the democratic nations on Asia's far east fringe.
Also from what I have gleaned certain among African countries have their various warm feeling toward the US, and Morocco has the longest strangest relationship to us.Saudi is purely strategic. Most western nations have this same relationship with them, in fact so does most of the world due to their oil.
Ask people on the street in the US about say Japan, you'd probably get mostly positive respones and at the least a feeling that they're peaceful allies we can rely on for this and that, and also they might have made our car and video games.
Ask about Canada. People might make fun of them a bit, but in the warmest sense like siblings. Mostly it will end up positive, and if if in some crazy twist Canada fell under attack…well let's just say that would never ever ever sit with the US.Ask an American about Saudi Arabia and uh...well...er... that "crazy scary fundamentalist place where women are treated like shit that has lots of oil" would be the gist of it.
I imagine the reverse is completely true as well, regarding Saudis toward us.
Thank you for your valued reply, I really like your informative posts. Yes, I agree on most of what you argued. Concluding that the relationship between the two countries' governments is purely strategic is rational, however, the part regarding each nation's image in the eyes of the opposite population, is this negative view recently shaped due to the terrorist acts committed against the US plus the notion of unfair US policies and meddling in the Middle East affairs especially involving Israel? Or is this divide rooted much deeper as a result of different and partly opposing cultures, ideologies and dominant religions/lack of? Maybe if the people of both countries took a break from the established notions regarding each other, they can find a common middle ground where there can be mutual understanding and respect? Especially as the US, government and people, regardless of their foreign policies and agendas, has shown multiple times and on multiple fronts just how much generous they can be. In other words, is there no possible way that the stigma which has been imprinted on the minds of the two countries' average Joe regarding the other country, can be replaced by a positive and a friendlier image?
Weird, they deleted the video.
Something to do with political pressure? or Facebook's desire to not get deeply involved?
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Something to do with political pressure? or Facebook's desire to not get deeply involved?
Dunno :/ Don't want to speculate. Maybe they even pressure the one who uploaded it.
Thank you for your valued reply, I really like your informative posts. Yes, I agree on most of what you argued. Concluding that the relationship between the two countries' governments is purely strategic is rational, however, the part regarding each nation's image in the eyes of the opposite population, is this negative view recently shaped due to the terrorist acts committed against the US plus the notion of unfair US policies and meddling in the Middle East affairs especially involving Israel? Or is this divide rooted much deeper as a result of different and partly opposing cultures, ideologies and dominant religions/lack of?
Both in the case of Saudi Arabia. From what I've gleaned many Saudis don't actually live all that differently than do Americans in the sense that they're largely plugged into the modern global entertainment world and all that jazz. Even very much in spite of many of their own laws.
Culturally? Culture is a touchy fluid concept.
The women's rights issue is really something I'm always hesitant to explain using culture in any context.
Every western nation that walks around talking about great gender roles, at one point not even long ago in most cases sucked at women's rights. Maybe not quite as bad as Saudi Arabia, but then again Saudi Arabia isn't a democracy. It's a fundamentalist monarchy, so the laws there can't even be called a reflection of the people.
Iran is an even better example given that their population skews significantly more liberal than their fundamentalist authoritarian government.
Are Saudi women's rights a severe problem? Yes, huge yes.
But is it some cultural weakness? Bleh, I don't really think so.
Not fundamentally.
For instance a country like Germany today is probably rife with people taking for granted that German culture is naturally liberal, democratic, egalitarian etc.
Flashback to 70 years ago and errrrrrrrrrrrrr….
I don't think the west or anywhere should ever get haughty about cultural superiority, since 9/10 of what gets talked up is not something they always had in modern terms. Most of Western Europe used to be hostile toward democracy, shooting people in the streets to stop it, with petty tyrants grabbing power when possible. This is only dialing it back to the middle of the 1800's at the EARLIEST in most cases.
This goes double for arguments claming X is because of religion.
Easy as hell for the Christian world to claim modern progressive things are proof of itselves and problems in the Muslim world proof of it inherently being sexist, violent etc. It's the same problem as above.
I find the religion argument to be particularly weak and full of holes.
For instance any Europeans whove gotten it into their heads that "Protestant = Progress", "Catholic = Regress" need only visit the eastern half of the US to see the whole world they thought they knew turned topsy turvy.
@Monkey:
Both in the case of Saudi Arabia. From what I've gleaned many Saudis don't actually live all that differently than do Americans in the sense that they're largely plugged into the modern global entertainment world and all that jazz. Even very much in spite of many of their own laws.
Culturally? Culture is a touchy fluid concept.
The women's rights issue is really something I'm always hesitant to explain using culture in any context.
Every western nation that walks around talking about great gender roles, at one point not even long ago in most cases sucked at women's rights. Maybe not quite as bad as Saudi Arabia, but then again Saudi Arabia isn't a democracy. It's a fundamentalist monarchy, so the laws there can't even be called a reflection of the people.
Iran is an even better example given that their population skews significantly more liberal than their fundamentalist authoritarian government.Are Saudi women's rights a severe problem? Yes, huge yes.
But is it some cultural weakness? Bleh, I don't really think so.
Not fundamentally.For instance a country like Germany today is probably rife with people taking for granted that German culture is naturally liberal, democratic, egalitarian etc.
Flashback to 70 years ago and errrrrrrrrrrrrr….I don't think the west or anywhere should ever get haughty about cultural superiority, since 9/10 of what gets talked up is not something they always had in modern terms. Most of Western Europe used to be hostile toward democracy, shooting people in the streets to stop it, with petty tyrants grabbing power when possible. This is only dialing it back to the middle of the 1800's at the EARLIEST in most cases.
This goes double for arguments claming X is because of religion.
Easy as hell for the Christian world to claim modern progressive things are proof of itselves and problems in the Muslim world proof of it inherently being sexist, violent etc. It's the same problem as above.
I find the religion argument to be particularly weak and full of holes.For instance any Europeans whove gotten it into their heads that "Protestant = Progress", "Catholic = Regress" need only visit the eastern half of the US to see the whole world they thought they knew turned topsy turvy.
I agree mostly. Thank you dearly for the informative and elaborate reply.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/22/world/europe/britain-denies-julien-blanc-visa.html
Yes this is the most delicious schadenfreude
 
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/22/world/europe/britain-denies-julien-blanc-visa.html
Yes this is the most delicious schadenfreude
This one got a good laugh out of me. No idea who the guy is, but all he did described on the article was pretty terrible.
I read about him in another article after he was kicked out of Australia how he was talking about how you can't rape hookers and how he forced this Asian prostitute he was with to have sex after she thought they were done and obviously did not want to have sex again/was not aroused. He laughed about how he was thinking to himself to get it over with fast because she obviously didn't like it
I will not be happy until we maroon this idiot on that trash island in the ocean
 
So, eleven students detained in the Ayotzinapa protest were charged with terrorism, attempt of murder, battery and violence and no bail. They sent them to maximum security prisons in other states so it would be harder to canalize help to them. Yay for the post terror era! :/
http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=388668 (spanish source).
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/22/world/europe/britain-denies-julien-blanc-visa.html
Yes this is the most delicious schadenfreude
"He said he had not been choking the women in the photographs but merely had his hands around their throats. It was all “a horrible, horrible attempt at humor” that had been “taken out of context in a way,” he said"
lol
@Monkey:
"He said he had not been choking the women in the photographs but merely had his hands around their throats. It was all “a horrible, horrible attempt at humor” that had been “taken out of context in a way,” he said"
lol
Basically he was giving them the Charles Saatchi treatment.
So, eleven students detained in the Ayotzinapa protest were charged with terrorism, attempt of murder, battery and violence and no bail. They sent them to maximum security prisons in other states so it would be harder to canalize help to them. Yay for the post terror era! :/
http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=388668 (spanish source).
Be strong, mexican people.
And thank you taboo for providing that link.
I read about him in another article after he was kicked out of Australia how he was talking about how you can't rape hookers and how he forced this Asian prostitute he was with to have sex after she thought they were done and obviously did not want to have sex again/was not aroused. He laughed about how he was thinking to himself to get it over with fast because she obviously didn't like it
I will not be happy until we maroon this idiot on that trash island in the ocean
2ch seems to have mixed opinions on the guy's trip to Japan
http://www.japancrush.com/2014/videos/2ch-responds-to-pick-up-artist-julien-blancs-japan-trip.html
http://thevoiceofnation.com/first-italian-female-astronaut-ready-for-spaceflight
And the first female italian astronaut :3
@CCC:
2ch seems to have mixed opinions on the guy's trip to Japan
http://www.japancrush.com/2014/videos/2ch-responds-to-pick-up-artist-julien-blancs-japan-trip.html
of course it's the women's fault
Why am I not surprised
 
