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Chapter 731: "Dressrosa Operation SOP"
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Not any worse than Gol D. Roger destroying a country's military force because someone mocked his crew. And he's supposed to be a good guy.
Well they are pirates. It's just not something Luffy would do and it doesn't take away the fact that he's demented.
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I still have people arguing with me that we won't get his backstory.
We already got it. I don't believe it's worth showing, though.
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I still have people arguing with me that we won't get his backstory.
His back-story will only be shown if he turns out to have something very important to be shown. However, we may get a small glimmer of how he came to respect Doffy from when he was a child.
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I hope the spoilers will come out tomorrow
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CP0 only work for the Celestial Dragons, which means that they have more credibility than anybody else. Dofla seems to have retained at least some influence from his time as one.
Yeah I guess I can see that.
But with so many parties involved in this arc they have to be following their own agenda as well, at least that's how I am seeing at the moment. -
@John:
Yeah I guess I can see that.
But with so many parties involved in this arc they have to be following their own agenda as well, at least that's how I am seeing at the moment.Those agendas will clash and it will be very satisfying, to say the least.
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We already got it. I don't believe it's worth showing, though.
I believe it's worth showing. We don't know what went on in Skypeia which was left on a cliffhanger, how his crew died and why he's so obsessed with Doflamingo, we haven't gotten a sliver of his backstory and Oda not exploring it would be bad writing with all of the set up he's done so far for Bellamy.
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His back-story will only be shown if he turns out to have something very important to be shown. However, we may get a small glimmer of how he came to respect Doffy from when he was a child.
I don't know. With all of the stuff Oda's done with Bellamy since chapter 706 not getting a backstory seems unlikely to me. Especially after this chapter. How can you look at the scenes he was in and not think that were going to get to know his history and find out his "principles".
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Bellamy has plot device written all over him, the only flashback we're probably getting about is him meeting Doffy for the first time. That is what may be necessary for him, if Oda makes him more important then we will see a more in-depth look into his past.
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Those agendas will clash and it will be very satisfying, to say the least.
And it will probably blow our minds in the process xD
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@John:
And it will probably blow our minds in the process xD
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I still have people arguing with me that we won't get his backstory.
Well i think there should and i hope there is. Why else would Oda bring back a character from so long ago? It has to be known why he loves Doflamingo so much and why he wants to be in the family and why no matter what Doflamingo does to him he still follows him. He told Luffy and Barto that "they wouldn't understand", or something along those lines. There is more to Bellamy than we know.
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Bellamy has plot device written all over him, the only flashback we're probably getting about is him meeting Doffy for the first time. That is what may be necessary for him, if Oda makes him more important then we will see a more in-depth look into his past.
I don't think he's just a plot device. He's obviously a wild card but I believe that Oda has put to much into him to not give us a full backstory because i personally believe that Oda is trying to make him important. He's just as important as Bartolomeo or Cavendish. I think that were going to get a flashback as to why he's so obsessed with Doflamingo, just a look at when the first met wouldn't be enough to explain Bellamy's loyalty. There's obviously something deeper there especially after he said he had nothing to live for and that he has his own principles. That just convinced me even more that we'll get a more in depth flashback for him. I mean Oda left what he did in Skypeia open for a reason, were going to have to find that out and how his crew died, I mean Bellamy had a chapter dedicated to himself and his relationship with Luffy will probably be even more explored.
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@LaFF:
Well i think there should and i hope there is. Why else would Oda bring back a character from so long ago? It has to be known why he loves Doflamingo so much and why he wants to be in the family and why no matter what Doflamingo does to him he still follows him. He told Luffy and Barto that "they wouldn't understand", or something along those lines. There is more to Bellamy than we know.
Exactly! Ever since chapter 706 "I won't mock you" I've been arguing with people who said he'd be one shotted in the tournament and that fater his block he'd be irrelevant which was ridiculous after seeing what we had just saw. Then after that I spent I don't know how long arguing with people about how he's not weak and had a chance against Bartolomeo and that he has Haki and many other thing's about him.
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Bellamy has plot device written all over him, the only flashback we're probably getting about is him meeting Doffy for the first time. That is what may be necessary for him, if Oda makes him more important then we will see a more in-depth look into his past.
Personally it just came into my mind just now, Doflamingo may saved Bellamy or his family or someone who is quite close to him and from then on Bellamy is in complete debt to him. Doflamingo doesn't want him around, so Bellamy tries to become strong (he is quite strong now) to join his family. But because Bellamy is "Forever greatful and in debt" he can't accept no as an answer.
Thats my take on it anyway
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Bellamy was reintroduced as a more accepting and respectable character, even Luffy cheered for him. It's obvious Bellamy is going confront Doffy about his orders to kill him, leading him to be attacked. This action will lead Luffy to get pissed even more(if this actually happens of course).
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Calling this:
Fujitora will be swayed by Mingos story, help him out versus Luffy/zoro/LAW, and when it looks dark for the mugiwaras the SOP assault will succed and Fujitora will realize Mingo has lied about key aspects and just walk away. From there on Mingo is in for a beating. -
Kaido angle: Hey, guys! Due to my tragic backstory, as well as serious injuries, I've been modified into some cyborg or minkman or potato or something to kill you!
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Calling this:
Fujitora will be swayed by Mingos story, help him out versus Luffy/zoro/LAW, and when it looks dark for the mugiwaras the SOP assault will succed and Fujitora will realize Mingo has lied about key aspects and just walk away. From there on Mingo is in for a beating.Even better if Fujitora suddenly remembers somebody from his past who was turned into a toy.
Technically speaking, couldn't the same be true of anyone, even Doflamingo? Sugar seems to have had complete control over that.
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Guys since sabo was with luffy and ace, did garp punched him too with the fist of love, and threw him into a jungle or sent him flying?
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Guys since sabo was with luffy and ace, did garp punched him too with the fist of love, and threw him into a jungle or sent him flying?
you are welcome
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Calling this:
Fujitora will be swayed by Mingos story, help him out versus Luffy/zoro/LAW, and when it looks dark for the mugiwaras the SOP assault will succed and Fujitora will realize Mingo has lied about key aspects and just walk away. From there on Mingo is in for a beating.Or better yet a woman called Violet that decided to head to the Castle for no reason at all (in Attack on Titan, she would be killed as soon as she arrives) will let her mind run wild thus making Issho say "Doflamingo you're black".
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@Terry:
you are welcome
Anime dude, Anime… Yeah that Fist of Love scene is cannon
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Or better yet a woman called Violet that decided to head to the Castle for no reason at all (in Attack on Titan, she would be killed as soon as she arrives) will let her mind run wild thus making Issho say "Doflamingo you're black".
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Anime dude, Anime... Yeah that Fist of Love scene is cannon
same old shit16char
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Hahahhahaah I love the part where he says : this geezer is a freaking monster hahahah
Found in chapter 584 , he is also beating sabo
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@LaFF:
Maybe not because someone with a bounty that high should easily be noticed, unless he does have a mask or Barto and Bellamy have no clue.
Yeah because people in Alabasta and in the bar sure remembered a 550million bounty 2nd division commander of WB pirates. Huh?
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Actually Hack was taken out when he punched Bart's barrier and Bellamy is obviously physically stronger than Bart, thinking otherwise is foolish (The dude carried the pillar down from Skypeia). The majority of Bellamy's attacks rely on physical contact while Bart rely's on his barrier. If you're implying that Bellamy only rely's on his Devil Fruit and not Bart then that's just silly.
Bartolomeo took out Hack with a kick: http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/709/4 Nobody ever saw Bellamy physically carrying that pillar down from Skypeia. If there's one thing we know about the "One Piece rabbling masses", it's that they over-exaggerate everything. Hell, some of the people in the Coliseum think Luffy is some 8 meter tall giant or something. Not even Bellamy himself has stated "I carried a gold pillar to Doflamingo", we only know that he offered it to him. What I saw was someone who wasn't physically strong enough to knock out a scrub like Tank Lepanto. Until Oda actually shows Bellamy physically carrying the pillar, the current feats say otherwise.
Oh and Bart wasn't worried about the King's Punch he was irritated that Bellamy wouldn't back down even with all of the damage he was receiving from the barrier and when Bellamy got around the barrier Bart couldn't get him off and Bart commented that Bellamy's grip was to strong for him to shake off and if he could have then Bart would have got Bellamy off of him which he didn't.
This never happened, all the translations have Barto saying (paraphrasing) "you're troublesome, let go". Also, Bellamy grabbed onto Barto for what, 5 seconds? That's when the King's punch came in, and Barto got a barrier up despite Bellamy having a hold of him. There's no evidence indicating Barto had no method of getting Bellamy off.
Like I said before, all this scene tells us is that Bellamy wasn't completely helpless against Barto. Anyone who translates this scene to "Bellamy will definitely beat Bartolomeo" is pretty much a "Zoro fanboys" of Bellamy. And I'm sure we all know how stupid Zoro fanboys can get when they try to prove their points with events that never happened.
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Even better if Fujitora suddenly remembers somebody from his past who was turned into a toy.
Technically speaking, couldn't the same be true of anyone, even Doflamingo? Sugar seems to have had complete control over that.
Plot twist: Sugar is the actual main villain of the arc, deceiving everyone there is.
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Plot twist: Sugar is the actual main villain of the arc, deceiving everyone there is.
and Doflamingo's her boy toy right?
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His back-story will only be shown if he turns out to have something very important to be shown. However, we may get a small glimmer of how he came to respect Doffy from when he was a child.
The easiest explanation atm is that Bellamy and Dofla are blood related. Dofla doesn't seem like the type of person that would do something that displays so much character/reputability that he commands respect from someone to the extent of it being obsessive. But then again he's convinced a full country of idiots into thinking he's a benign king…
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Yeah because people in Alabasta and in the bar sure remembered a 550million bounty 2nd division commander of WB pirates. Huh?
No one in the first half of the Grand Line knew anything, Zoro knew who he was.
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Bartolomeo took out Hack with a kick: http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/709/4 Nobody ever saw Bellamy physically carrying that pillar down from Skypeia. If there's one thing we know about the "One Piece rabbling masses", it's that they over-exaggerate everything. Hell, some of the people in the Coliseum think Luffy is some 8 meter tall giant or something. Not even Bellamy himself has stated "I carried a gold pillar to Doflamingo", we only know that he offered it to him. What I saw was someone who wasn't physically strong enough to knock out a scrub like Tank Lepanto. Until Oda actually shows Bellamy physically carrying the pillar, the current feats say otherwise.
This never happened, all the translations have Barto saying (paraphrasing) "you're troublesome, let go". Also, Bellamy grabbed onto Barto for what, 5 seconds? That's when the King's punch came in, and Barto got a barrier up despite Bellamy having a hold of him. There's no evidence indicating Barto had no method of getting Bellamy off.
Like I said before, all this scene tells us is that Bellamy wasn't completely helpless against Barto. Anyone who translates this scene to "Bellamy will definitely beat Bartolomeo" is pretty much a "Zoro fanboys" of Bellamy. And I'm sure we all know how stupid Zoro fanboys can get when they try to prove their points with events that never happened.
When that was stated we had a flash of Bellamy presenting Doflamingo with the pillar and we know that he went to Skypeia with his crew and came back alone and ripped so what's the only explanation? Oh yah he carried the pillar like the freaking manga stated. Oh and Bellamy owned Tank, he had zero trouble from him so I don't know what you're talking about. Also when Hack hit Bartolomeo's barrier he was down for the count and couldn't withstand it anymore unlike Bellamy. And what that scene translates into is that Bellamy was strong enough to repeatedly attack Bart's barrier and still stand. Figure out how to get around Bart's barrier and that Bart couldn't get him off.
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I still have people arguing with me that we won't get his backstory.
Why would we get Bellamy's backstory? He's not a character that we need to know the history of. We didn't even get a backstory for Bon Clay.
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Why would we get Bellamy's backstory? He's not a character that we need to know the history of. We didn't even get a backstory for Bon Clay.
You're kidding right? Please say you're kidding?
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When that was stated we had a flash of Bellamy presenting Doflamingo with the pillar and we know that he went to Skypeia with his crew and came back alone and ripped so what's the only explanation? Oh yah he carried the pillar like the freaking manga stated. Oh and Bellamy owned Tank, he had zero trouble from him so I don't know what you're talking about. Also when Hack hit Bartolomeo's barrier he was down for the count and couldn't withstand it anymore unlike Bellamy. And what that scene translates into is that Bellamy was strong enough to repeatedly attack Bart's barrier and still stand. Figure out how to get around Bart's barrier and that Bart couldn't get him off.
Bellamy didn't own Tank. In fact, he was easily blocked.
And I like how you downplay Barto knocking out Hack with a kick, considering that the only other injury he had was a broken arm.
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Nope.
I don't see why Bellamy would be getting a flashback. He's not a focus character. He's not in the forefront of the story the way Rebecca, Chin Jao and even Law have been. Law hasn't even had a flashback yet.
As I mentioned earlier I see him as a Bon Clay, just a side character who helps Luffy out. I consider Bellamy less important than Ivankov, and I don't consider Ivankov's meeting with Dragon as a real flashback scene.
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Bellamy didn't own Tank. In fact, he was easily blocked.
And I like how you downplay Barto knocking out Hack with a kick, considering that the only other injury he had was a broken arm.
Bellamy took him out with breaking a sweat. Fact.
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Nope.
I don't see why Bellamy would be getting a flashback. He's not a focus character. He's not in the forefront of the story the way Rebecca, Chin Jao and even Law have been. Law hasn't even had a flashback yet.
As I mentioned earlier I see him as a Bon Clay, just a side character who helps Luffy out. I consider Bellamy less important than Ivankov, and I don't consider Ivankov's meeting with Dragon as a real flashback scene.
I'm not even gonna waste my time explaining it. Good day sir.
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Bellamy took him out with breaking a sweat. Fact.
At this point you're just being ridiculous.
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I for one, am pretty curious of Bellamy's adventures in the past 2 years.
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At this point you're just being ridiculous.
Bellamy stood there calm while Tank prepared his attack. Then Bellamy jumped over the attack punched Tank which was blocked and put Tank under heavy strain as you can see on his face while Bellamy laughed. Of course Abdullah and Jeet took him out in the end and then Bellamy took them out effortlessly. He outclassed all three of them.
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I for one, am pretty curious of Bellamy's adventures in the past 2 years.
He's been to the freaking sky island guys.And Oda didn't even tell us what happened and left it on a cliffhanger… lolnoreasonforOdatohaveaflahsbackdetailingwhathappenedwhilehewasuptherehowhegotthepillarandlosthiscrewandmaybeeventelluswhyherefusestobetraydoflamingoafterallthestuffhe'sdonetobellamyandwhyhesaidhehadnoreasontoliveinthemostrecentchapterandwhatthoseprincipleshetoldBartolomeoaboutwerelolnope:)!
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TBH, that would be something that would likelier be explained through cover stories than a flashback scene this arc. Zoro's still missing an eye, but having a flashback for him has nothing to do with the current story. The exact same can be said of Bellamy's history.
We already know he's a dedicated follower of Doflamingo's, and that he's willing to be abused and make huge sacrifices in his name. What more information would we be getting out of his history that we don't already need to know?
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I wonder if Sugar's DF powers works when she's asleep. That must explains that midnight rule.
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That JUMP schedule isn't looking so bad.
Also, while the literal idea of "my magma beats your fire!" always seemed kind of lame, I like to interpret it as more symbolic. Oda said very early on that men's dreams are hugely relevant to their power, as well as their defeats.
Since the whole first half of the Marineford War set us up to realize that Ace didn't even really know what he wanted out of life, it makes a lot of sense to interpret Akainu smashing him in as a sort of "clash of ideals." Unlike Ace, Akainu is very confident and focused in his absolute justice, which explains why his "magma" burned Ace's "fire."
Ace wanted to make Whitebeard Pirate King, he didn't care about following his real father's footsteps and becoming the Pirate King himself. He lost to someone whose devil fruit is a perfect against his on top of fighting arguably the strongest marine. He wasn't that strong yet, that's all there was to it. Not to mention he was protecting his brother when he was fighting Akainu since he knew if he lost, he would kill his brother next. I doubt there was any lack of conviction at that time either coming from Ace.
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Not any worse than Gol D. Roger destroying a country's military force because someone mocked his crew. And he's supposed to be a good guy.
You consider Roger to be a good guy?
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Even better if Fujitora suddenly remembers somebody from his past who was turned into a toy.
Technically speaking, couldn't the same be true of anyone, even Doflamingo? Sugar seems to have had complete control over that.
That would be Maynard. He's probably a toy now.
Bartolomeo took out Hack with a kick: http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/709/4 Nobody ever saw Bellamy physically carrying that pillar down from Skypeia. If there's one thing we know about the "One Piece rabbling masses", it's that they over-exaggerate everything. Hell, some of the people in the Coliseum think Luffy is some 8 meter tall giant or something. Not even Bellamy himself has stated "I carried a gold pillar to Doflamingo", we only know that he offered it to him. What I saw was someone who wasn't physically strong enough to knock out a scrub like Tank Lepanto. Until Oda actually shows Bellamy physically carrying the pillar, the current feats say otherwise.
This never happened, all the translations have Barto saying (paraphrasing) "you're troublesome, let go". Also, Bellamy grabbed onto Barto for what, 5 seconds? That's when the King's punch came in, and Barto got a barrier up despite Bellamy having a hold of him. There's no evidence indicating Barto had no method of getting Bellamy off.
Like I said before, all this scene tells us is that Bellamy wasn't completely helpless against Barto. Anyone who translates this scene to "Bellamy will definitely beat Bartolomeo" is pretty much a "Zoro fanboys" of Bellamy. And I'm sure we all know how stupid Zoro fanboys can get when they try to prove their points with events that never happened.
Grabbing someones collar doesn't mean you're equal to him, lol. Bartolomeo was just trolling Bellamy. Bellamy can't even send a weak ass gladiator flying, like Ideo. To top it off, he got fodderized by a tranny.
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Yeah because people in Alabasta and in the bar sure remembered a 550million bounty 2nd division commander of WB pirates. Huh?
Wouldn't Ace know he is alive?
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That would be Maynard. He's probably a toy now.
Grabbing someones collar doesn't mean you're equal to him, lol. Bartolomeo was just trolling Bellamy. Bellamy can't even send a weak ass gladiator flying, like Ideo. To top it off, he got fodderized by a tranny.
You lack reading comprehension and this was a stupid post on so many levels and if you read that chapter you'd see that he wasn't trolling. You're just another one of idiotic Bellamy haters.
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I wonder if Sugar's DF powers works when she's asleep. That must explains that midnight rule.
i think what everybody is forgetting with sugars power regarding the night time:
wouldnt that mean that every night the situation that lighningsoldier tries to achieve would happen?
everybody in dressrosa would suddenly remember their loved and lost ones after midnight and also every time there would/could be a mass revolution of the toys who are becoming people again.
even if they are locked in karioseki cages, this doesnt sound like a situation that could be handled every night over and over again.
also the toys could just run away and hide somewhere until nighttime thereby escape their fate and reveal doflamingos crimes against his peopleor am i missing something?
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i think what everybody is forgetting with sugars power regarding the night time:
wouldnt that mean that every night the situation that lighningsoldier tries to achieve would happen?
everybody in dressrosa would suddenly remember their loved and lost ones after midnight and also every time there would/could be a mass revolution of the toys who are becoming people again.
even if they are locked in karioseki cages, this doesnt sound like a situation that could be handled every night over and over again.
also the toys could just run away and hide somewhere until nighttime thereby escape their fate and reveal doflamingos crimes against his peopleor am i missing something?
Did Oda a plothole?
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You lack reading comprehension and this was a stupid post on so many levels and if you read that chapter you'd see that he wasn't trolling. You're just another one of idiotic Bellamy haters.
Actually you're the one who lacks In reading comprehension. You keep on Insisting that Bellamy's stronger than he looks, but nothing was shown to prove It otherwise. You're ignoring the facts shown, which is normal for a Bellamy fanboy like you. Go check Bartolomeos face when Hack approached him while he was pissing, and his face when Bellamy grabbed him. He has the same worried look( which he was faking).
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Wouldn't Ace know he is alive?
he should, but right now we don't know if Ace knew Sabo was alive or not.