About the Good-Bad Bartos discussion, I just wanted to bring into the table that we haven´t had a Neutral faction in OP. Someone who isn´t good nor evil, but just goes at it is, nor marine nor pirate but strong enough to stall both if wanted to be. When this type of characters appear the shroud a series in true mystery goes over and beyond gray, black and White. So far even if there are characters who have their personal views on justice and piracy we haven´t had anyone who actually follows the neutral way.
Chapter 714: "Lucy and Ucy"
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i think that Barto isn't a bad guy that terrors people like Kidd (btw, what so horrible that Kidd has done that gave him a 470mil threat to the WG?) but it just just more fun to be trollin' people like that. it actually might make to much sense though.
i have a theory, maybe the suitcase is a Nuke-like bomb (not that OPverse has nuclear bombs, but similar threat level like in Alabasta) and everyone in the Coliseum, including most of the competitors but i guess not all, run away in panic but it turns out as a fake. This way it would be much easier for Barto to get the fruit. (if it scares of one strong opponent like Jesus it is already a success no?)
It's a question of semantics, really. While it's not training per se, "bringing the power under control until one's able to distinguish between friend and foe" is still considered one form of training, no matter how you look at it.
Sorry for the off topic question but, Jjst out of curiosity, is you avatar Revy from Black Lagoon? (since i have recently watched it
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(btw, what so horrible that Kidd has done that gave him a 470mil threat to the WG?)
Well, we don't know all of his actions but….he has murdered/crucified people, iirc.
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Well, we don't know all of his actions but….he has murdered/crucified people, iirc.
i remember it was presented that "it was said that he did so…" but never really with any solid proof for it. i'm not saying that Kidd haven't did some of those things or that he isn't that kind of pirate, but it might (as a "Maybe") be a case of false accusement by WG or just a weird chain of coincidences.fg
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HE crucified that one pirate in the new world and also said that he killed anyone that laughed at his ambition to be Pirate King. Anger managment issues much? So it is not totaly baseless
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HE crucified that one pirate in the new world and also said that he killed anyone that laughed at his ambition to be Pirate King. Anger managment issues much? So it is not totaly baseless
Which chapter was that?
But yeah, from the Anger Management point it makes a lot of sense for his actions. (crazy unrealistic Scenario: if Barto is a fan of luffy, and he says that Kidd is worse than luffy, i wonder how would that battle, even if short, look like) -
Which chapter was that?
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-56101-12/one-piece/chapter-594.html
You can clearly see him use, or more accurately having used, his ability to crucify a bunch of pirates who were trying to flee the New World upon realizing just how harsh the conditions there actually are. He even calls them spineless cretins who should have never come there in the first place.
Also, since we're discussing this, back at Sabaody Shakky commented on his bounty, saying that it was only higher than Luffy's at the time because he had been harming civilians and was thus seen as a far greater threat to the world peace and safety of ordinary citizens. I very much doubt the WG would have lied about him committing those atrocities seeing how his character has been established ever since we first heard his name.
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http://www.mangapanda.com/103-56101-12/one-piece/chapter-594.html
You can clearly see him use, or more accurately having used, his ability to crucify a bunch of pirates who were trying to flee the New World upon realizing just how harsh the conditions there actually are. He even calls them spineless cretins who should have never come there in the first place.
Also, since we're discussing this, back at Sabaody Shakky commented on his bounty, saying that it was only higher than Luffy's at the time because he had been harming civilians and was thus seen as a far greater threat to the world peace and safety of ordinary citizens. I very much doubt the WG would have lied about him committing those atrocities seeing how his character has been established ever since we first heard his name.
Thanks, now i remember but it was kinda a long time ago. (i do remember though that in the anime he didn't crucify the pirates and i can see why that choice was made)
Now he also has the same situation of a slightly higher bounty. i wonder if that would continue through out the most of the series or change sometime in the future. -
Not relevant to the chapter, but does anyone know any good Youtube One Piece reviewers? Most in my experience tend to get things really wrong or make really biased judgements, compared to reading every review written in this thread, but it is more relaxing than staring at a screen intently. So?
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Not relevant to the chapter, but does anyone know any good Youtube One Piece reviewers? Most in my experience tend to get things really wrong or make really biased judgements, compared to reading every review written in this thread, but it is more relaxing than staring at a screen intently. So?
You can't beat ForneverWorld. God just… man. Even just that face. I just wanna sloppily kiss it. And all of his manga wall posters I just wanna rub my face on.
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Not relevant to the chapter, but does anyone know any good Youtube One Piece reviewers? Most in my experience tend to get things really wrong or make really biased judgements, compared to reading every review written in this thread, but it is more relaxing than staring at a screen intently. So?
Haven't watched much of him but i heard King of Lightning is the best one of those popular reviewers. From what i've seen he's a pretty funny one.
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Not relevant to the chapter, but does anyone know any good Youtube One Piece reviewers? Most in my experience tend to get things really wrong or make really biased judgements, compared to reading every review written in this thread, but it is more relaxing than staring at a screen intently. So?
For me it's these four:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Sawyer7mage/videos (some's first pick of a reviewer. usually posts a review a day after release of chapter/episode. average review length: ~8min)
https://www.youtube.com/user/CodeProvider/videos(quite early to post a review but not first and not always. average review length: ~7min) https://www.youtube.com/user/ForneverWorld/videos (usually first to post a review. ~5min) https://www.youtube.com/user/KingOfLighting/videos (Usually last, around a day or two after chapter/episode but has the longest, and sometimes the most detailed reviews and quite funny most of the time. average review length: ~20min) i think that you'll find at least one that you will like since i can understand why you wouldn't like some of them.
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Is not a quick effect is just the way G2 evolved, the effect still the same like I said you cannot have your blood move at a high speed in only one part of your body, that's impossible, lol in Garp's case you can clearly see the effect that I'm talking about (Just wanted to say it anyways), Luffy has to stretch his arm back in order to create bigger fire/flames once he stretch his arm his blood has more room to go even faster (that's something only Luffy can do) also he can create RedHawk without stretching his arm but it won't be as strong as it is when he stretch it.
PS: we might not see pumping his legs in order to do G2 like pre-time skip
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You can only master two types of Haki
Dude, its Red Hawk because he has to stretch his arm first like Bullet except without CoA. If Luffy can manage to control where the air 'sits' when using G3, he can do the same with G2. Whenever Luffy ever has G2 activated on his entire body, his whole body steams up. Not just a part of it.
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i think that Barto isn't a bad guy that terrors people like Kidd (btw, what so horrible that Kidd has done that gave him a 470mil threat to the WG?) but it just just more fun to be trollin' people like that. it actually might make to much sense though.
Bart broadcasted pirates being burned to death to the public, and has that bounty because of his famed brutality.
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I hope that in the future Oda reveals that Kidd attacked one of the Yonkou's crew, he could not even manage to meet with the boss himself cuz' one of his crewmembers fucked him up, cut his arm and crushed his face. ( Not-that I hate Kidd, but just to show the powers of the Yonkous)
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What is Barts connection and who is he?
Connection: A revolutionary, in league with dragon
Who is he: Vivi + Ivankov hormones + Barrier DF
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Not relevant to the chapter, but does anyone know any good Youtube One Piece reviewers? Most in my experience tend to get things really wrong or make really biased judgements, compared to reading every review written in this thread, but it is more relaxing than staring at a screen intently. So?
KingOfLightning is a good one and I also enjoy LuffyTheDragonSlayer.
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KingOfLightning is a good one and I also enjoy LuffyTheDragonSlayer.
The latter stopped with chapter 713
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The one who said Bart is Shanks' son…you will live a long life!
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For me it's these four:
https://www.youtube.com/user/CodeProvider/videos (some's first pick of a reviewer. usually posts a review a day after release of chapter/episode. average review length: ~8min)
https://www.youtube.com/user/CodeProvider/videos(quite early to post a review but not first and not always. average review length: ~7min) https://www.youtube.com/user/ForneverWorld/videos (usually first to post a review. ~5min) https://www.youtube.com/user/KingOfLighting/videos (Usually last, around a day or two after chapter/episode but has the longest, and sometimes the most detailed reviews and quite funny most of the time. average review length: ~20min) i think that you'll find at least one that you will like since i can understand why you wouldn't like some of them.
Thanks for the suggestions, though you posted Codeprovider twice. Did you mean to say another one?
I already tried forneverworld and didn't like him, but I do subscribe to KOL. I'll definitely check out Codeprovider. I was mainly wondering if there were any more less well-known ones who I might not have heard of yet.
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king of lightning pretty much relies on the info provided by the fans and their theories..most of which are terribly crazy but he is pretty amusing
i recall watching few decent vids of some guy named sawyer and codeprovider don't recall their exact names who brought out kaidou is typhoon theory -
I had a look at those reviewer videos - thought they were all pretty weak. This forum provides far better analysis - even if you do have to read through some trash to find it…
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Dude, its Red Hawk because he has to stretch his arm first like Bullet except without CoA. If Luffy can manage to control where the air 'sits' when using G3, he can do the same with G2. Whenever Luffy ever has G2 activated on his entire body, his whole body steams up. Not just a part of it.
This is getting nowhere, I already told you the reason as to why Redhawk is created (which is a bullet + Armament) and what would happen If Luffy do the same thing without stretching his arm and still at it, also told you that your blood cannot run at high speed in only one part of your body because the blood is not compacted in different places but is all connected but oh well.
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Bartolomeo's story as been predicted here in the forum as follows:
1- His allegiance is for an enemy of Luffy we've seen before.
2- As always, Bart is Sabo.
3- Bart is another brother of the three adorable ones (Luffy. Ace and Sabo).
4- He wants to beat/win against the person who Shanks lost his arm because of.
5- An escaped Lvl 6 prisoners.
6- A fanboy of Luffy and the strawhats.
7- An old friend from Gray Terminal.
8- He deeply respects Ace (friend, ally, was saved by him at some point) and wants his brother to have his fruit
9- Another lost son of Dragon.
10- He's related to the revolutionaries.
11- He could be related to one of Ace's peers, the pirate Squard. Reason as to perhaps he's seeking the fruit is to atone for the mistake of Squard during the war.
12- He is probably doing a favour to someone that has relation to Luffy that helped him before.
13- Bartolomeo was a Bluejam pirate.
14- He's dadan son.
15- He is the man behind the Pandaman mask.
16- Luffy stole his suitcase before.
17- His actual name is Monkey D. Bartolomeo.
18- Bartolomeo is Higuma's son.
19- His father is the former user of the gumo gumo no mi.
20- He is one of the brokers.
21- A former Shanks crew member.Ends of part one :ninja:
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I hope the ship will be in shape soon so that Law's can be bring here.
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Bartolomeo's story as been predicted here in the forum as follows:
1- His allegiance is for an enemy of Luffy we've seen before.
2- As always, Bart is Sabo.
3- Bart is another brother of the three adorable ones (Luffy. Ace and Sabo).
4- He wants to beat/win against the person who Shanks lost his arm because of.
5- An escaped Lvl 6 prisoners.
6- A fanboy of Luffy and the strawhats.
7- An old friend from Gray Terminal.
8- He deeply respects Ace (friend, ally, was saved by him at some point) and wants his brother to have his fruit
9- Another lost son of Dragon.
10- He's related to the revolutionaries.
11- He could be related to one of Ace's peers, the pirate Squard. Reason as to perhaps he's seeking the fruit is to atone for the mistake of Squard during the war.
12- He is probably doing a favour to someone that has relation to Luffy that helped him before.
13- Bartolomeo was a Bluejam pirate.
14- He's dadan son.
15- He is the man behind the Pandaman mask.
16- Luffy stole his suitcase before.
17- His actual name is Monkey D. Bartolomeo.
18- Bartolomeo is Higuma's son.
19- His father is the former user of the gumo gumo no mi.
20- He is one of the brokers.
21- A former Shanks crew member.Ends of part one :ninja:
22- He is related to Moria ands wants revenge against Luffy.
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Someone might have mentioned it already, but I think we will see a Barto vs Cavendish mini-fight (small enough so neither of them will be disqualified). I'm not saying barto is on luffys side, what I think is that he is not the kinda of guy who would let a "friend" or a foe, be the prey of someone else.
Also (this I'm sure someone mentioned) luffys fake beard didn't apper in his face on one of the last pages. Might be it was an drawing error, but I think next chapter his identity will be revealed.
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Bartolomeo's story as been predicted here in the forum as follows:
1- His allegiance is for an enemy of Luffy we've seen before.
2- As always, Bart is Sabo.
3- Bart is another brother of the three adorable ones (Luffy. Ace and Sabo).
4- He wants to beat/win against the person who Shanks lost his arm because of.
5- An escaped Lvl 6 prisoners.
6- A fanboy of Luffy and the strawhats.
7- An old friend from Gray Terminal.
8- He deeply respects Ace (friend, ally, was saved by him at some point) and wants his brother to have his fruit
9- Another lost son of Dragon.
10- He's related to the revolutionaries.
11- He could be related to one of Ace's peers, the pirate Squard. Reason as to perhaps he's seeking the fruit is to atone for the mistake of Squard during the war.
12- He is probably doing a favour to someone that has relation to Luffy that helped him before.
13- Bartolomeo was a Bluejam pirate.
14- He's dadan son.
15- He is the man behind the Pandaman mask.
16- Luffy stole his suitcase before.
17- His actual name is Monkey D. Bartolomeo.
18- Bartolomeo is Higuma's son.
19- His father is the former user of the gumo gumo no mi.
20- He is one of the brokers.
21- A former Shanks crew member.Ends of part one :ninja:
i like prediction no.19
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22- He is related to Moria ands wants revenge against Luffy.
23- His former captain or someone he knew was the previous of the mera-mera(before Ace).
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25- he's student of Monkey D. Garp.
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Bartolomeo obviously is Richie, who ate the Smile version of the Hito Hito No Mi, followed by the regular Bari Bari No Mi. :ninja:
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26. He is the little brother of Crocodile and seeks revenge for breaking his brothers ambition to become pirate king
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I'm really diggin Barto. I think he may be my favorite thus far. I really hope hes on our side, we have alot of peeps against Luffy :(
I think Barto Club pirates were once alliances with Ace's Spade Pirates… :D
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Lol like how theres a list of reasons of Bart's stories haha, very productice.
Do people honestly think that the tournament is going to go as planned? Somewhere and sometime very soon some shit is giong to go down and things are going to get ugly. -
I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but Bartolomeo might be working for Blackbeard? yes Jesus Burgess is there but it's possible Bartolomeo might be working to gain favor with Blackbeard since we know for a fact that Blackbeard is looking for powerful devil fruits (also, Burgess is quite impulsive when it comes to fighting so its entirely possible he just decided to jump in to the fray and blackbeard definitely isn't someone who would leave something like the mera mera fruit to Jesus Burgess).
Another theory going around that Jora is Lola's mother: Lola mentioned that her mother is a big time pirate. Jora is pretty much everything other than that. She's an underling to an underling (Doflamingo -> Trebol -> Jora). I find it hard to believe that this is the definition of big time pirate that Oda intended when he made that statement.
This whole Sabo thing a lot of you are absorbed with: Him being alive ruins a significant amount of the motivation ace and luffy had for becoming pirates. He served his purpose for driving the story forward. I personally would be disappointed if he was alive as I don't see what further purpose he would have in the story (If Oda proves me wrong, I'll eat my words but I'd still be disappointed). If he does end up being alive, I hope he's a pirate who we haven't met yet (no, it's not Bartolomeo. His character design, including his personality, has no similarities to Sabo's) because his desire when he was young was to live freely as he wished, not overthrow the nobility, which would fall more in line with being a pirate than being a revolutionary (of course this could change, but that would make me question how his initial motivations changed).
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What if Bartolomeo is a devil fruit collector? maybe that chest he has is full of devil fruits lol
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Bart broadcasted pirates being burned to death to the public, and has that bounty because of his famed brutality.
I'm not saying that he's definitely a good guy, but right now, I view those as just rumors (unlike Kid, who we actually saw.) 150 million actually seems low for a guy who can fodderize a vice admiral and who has brutally killed civilians the way he is described as doing. It seems like a schtick to me (see him pretending he was going to throw a bomb when it was just a ball.)
I think Barto Club pirates were once alliances with Ace's Spade Pirates… :D
I forgot Bart's pirate crew's name. That seems like another connection to Ace.
This whole Sabo thing a lot of you are absorbed with: Him being alive ruins a significant amount of the motivation ace and luffy had for becoming pirates. He served his purpose for driving the story forward. I personally would be disappointed if he was alive as I don't see what further purpose he would have in the story (If Oda proves me wrong, I'll eat my words but I'd still be disappointed). If he does end up being alive, I hope he's a pirate who we haven't met yet (no, it's not Bartolomeo. His character design, including his personality, has no similarities to Sabo's) because his desire when he was young was to live freely as he wished, not overthrow the nobility, which would fall more in line with being a pirate than being a revolutionary (of course this could change, but that would make me question how his initial motivations changed).
Sabo is alive. Unless you really have another explanation for why Oda flashbacked to the night of the day of the Tenryuubito's arrival and had Dragon carrying someone injured. (http://www.mangapanda.com/103-54487-7/one-piece/chapter-589.html)
And sure, you're free to have your opinion of what's good or not, but personally, I'm the opposite. I see no point in ever writing Sabo if he was going to just be a dead flashback character. Before he was introduced, did anyone think we really needed another dead character to explain Luffy and Ace? They wanted to be pirates before him, and had established reasons for it. We already had a strong backstories and motivations for Luffy and Ace - introducing another brother just to kill off was unnecessary, even took away from Ace's death and Luffy and Ace's bond. And Sabo was introduced as a character with his own motivations and story, outside of them.
I think it's pretty obvious how his motivations would change after being blown up by a Tenryuubito (and right after the Grey Terminal and his breakdown with Dragon.) He wanted to live freely on the ocean, but the world as it is just wouldn't let him. I foresee a storyline with him exploring the concept of freedom that the three brothers had struggled with, and regaining his old dream.
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22- He is related to Moria ands wants revenge against Luffy.
23 He is Luffys mother, but since he became part of the revolutionaries he asked Ivankov to make her a man since she wanted to avoid Drama with Dragon….
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Bartolomeo is the son of one of the Bandits that was beaten by Shanks when Luffy was still a kid.
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One of the men of Captain Buggy.
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He's Luffy's evil twin brother, whom we'd never heard of.
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Bartolomeo's story as been predicted here in the forum as follows:
1- His allegiance is for an enemy of Luffy we've seen before.
2- As always, Bart is Sabo.
3- Bart is another brother of the three adorable ones (Luffy. Ace and Sabo).
4- He wants to beat/win against the person who Shanks lost his arm because of.
5- An escaped Lvl 6 prisoners.
6- A fanboy of Luffy and the strawhats.
7- An old friend from Gray Terminal.
8- He deeply respects Ace (friend, ally, was saved by him at some point) and wants his brother to have his fruit
9- Another lost son of Dragon.
10- He's related to the revolutionaries.
11- He could be related to one of Ace's peers, the pirate Squard. Reason as to perhaps he's seeking the fruit is to atone for the mistake of Squard during the war.
12- He is probably doing a favour to someone that has relation to Luffy that helped him before.
13- Bartolomeo was a Bluejam pirate.
14- He's dadan son.
15- He is the man behind the Pandaman mask.
16- Luffy stole his suitcase before.
17- His actual name is Monkey D. Bartolomeo.
18- Bartolomeo is Higuma's son.
19- His father is the former user of the gumo gumo no mi.
20- He is one of the brokers.
21- A former Shanks crew member.Ends of part one :ninja:
You forgot "He is Shank's son"
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Thanks for the suggestions, though you posted Codeprovider twice. Did you mean to say another one?
I already tried forneverworld and didn't like him, but I do subscribe to KOL. I'll definitely check out Codeprovider. I was mainly wondering if there were any more less well-known ones who I might not have heard of yet.
yeah, i meant Sawyer (fixed my post) https://www.youtube.com/user/Sawyer7mage/videos he's fun too.
Though i am in a similar boat with you, i need MOAR (i think it is the OP addiction taking over. i knew getting to the manga after 2 some years of anime only weekly episode would be like drugs: at first the free samples are great but afterwards you suffer. And as good old Dr. CC never said, Don't do drugs kids)
but i don't know, maybe Barto has a lifetime collection of something in that suitcase, i don't know maybe stamps or hats, and he just seeks for more? (i know dumb predictions link).
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Barto is luffy's mother
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Barto is luffy's mother
Exactly! and Dragon is making a surprise visit too because he is in the suitcase. (which explains why it says danger and hazard on it, since Dragon is the Most dangerous man in the world)
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Thanks, now i remember but it was kinda a long time ago. (i do remember though that in the anime he didn't crucify the pirates and i can see why that choice was made)
Now he also has the same situation of a slightly higher bounty. i wonder if that would continue through out the most of the series or change sometime in the future.Dude something wrong with your memory or what? Of course it was shown in the anime
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This thread below exist for a reason guys. http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=13350
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Have we still not have a confirmation on whether or not we get this "Super Colour" chapter for that anniversary? Was it just a fake rumour?
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Have we still not have a confirmation on whether or not we get this "Super Colour" chapter for that anniversary? Was it just a fake rumour?
It's going to be exclusively in Viz's Shonen Jump (meaning they colored it digitally or something).
This was in the July 1st issue of their magazine:
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This thread below exist for a reason guys. http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=13350
We know, it just got outta hand a little yesterday now everybody is back on topic since we know now that Barto is his revolutionary mother sex changed by Ivankov…