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I mean I think they can put cuffs on Ulti laying on the ground. Same for all the others. Thats what the marines do all the time after Luffy defeated them. The problem isnt keeping them in a cage its weakening them enough to put them in a cage which is what the battle is for.
That's my whole point. We're not talking about Wano citizens descending upon knocked out Beast pirates.
That hypothetical is just not worth considering.
I mean they can cuff them while they are there.
No they couldn't. Beast pirates would kill them.
But talking why they wouldnt return I you were saying its a thing pirate actually do but we've never seen them try to reconquer lost territory.
Pirates raid and plunder towns. Its a thing they do.
I didn't say anything about reconsidering territory but thats also an option given the ppl.
I also I gave other factors like the difficulty of getting into Wano.
Not really worth considering given they've done it.
It was difficult to get to a sky island but i have no doubt the strawhats could do it again. Why can't a new world pirate crew, better yet crew of a yonkou cant return to Wano? Oda didn't even bother showing Kid's or Law's crew, Big Mom or Whitebeard's crew get to Wano despite us all knowing its difficult.
Or that the crew is based on Kaido's great might so them staying together is unsure.
I did address this speculation.
Or being busy not being picked off by other crew that want to exploit their current weakness.
More reason to stay in Wano.
Well those crew exist by choice. The kaido pirates are a bunch of forced conscript and they believe in might make right not so much loyalty. They can easily disassemble for looking for the new strongest team or just plain wanting their freedom.
Yeah and after years of being together can just as easily choose to stay together in some form.
I mean the pleasures just up and betrayed Kaido cuz of Queen. Doesn't seem like most of Kaido's crew are actively being forced to be on the crew. Sasaki and Who's Who were actively looking to move up within the crew's hierarchy.
This isn't some pirate crew solely held together by Kaido's fear mongering. Especially if they all agree might makes right.
Well now we just disagree.
Its been pretty clear you seem to underestimate Katakuri
I mean if Pespero asked Katakuri to be his second in command I've seen nothing to indicate he would refuse.
Ummm yeah, Oda does make it a habit to have the strongest character be second to the weaker character. Just think of all the examples:
Enel and Gedatsu, Kuro and Jango, WB and Marco or Ace, Crocodile and Mr. 1, Luffy and Usopp, Law and Bepo, Kaido and King, etc.
Peros and Kat will fit right in.
However I can see him needing to kill Pespero to make him stop challenging his rule and I dont think he can.
Would just need to beat his ass publicly which he could do easily.