Pretty much, yeah. I'm sure people living in US (not necessarily Americans) who care about soccer don't really care for MLS as much.
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The part about proportional representation is very correct. The popularity of club football is huge in South and South-East Asia which is why a lot of European clubs go and play summer friendlies there and the Club World Cup is also played there. I've seen a LOT of popularity and awareness of football/soccer among Indians, Chinese, Malaysians and Indonesians. Doesn't hide the fact that all those nations are absolutely sht when it comes to actually playing. At least the US national team is internationally relevant and sneak in the odd upset at times.
@Monkey:Like with my India example, India is the deliberate creation in some sense of a Hindu nation state, with the third largest population of Muslims in the world. Whereas Pakistan (and Bangladesh) were created to house the Muslims of South Asia.
In Pakistan they are around 95% of the population, Islam matters there. In India it's 14% as I said, it is irrelevant aside from being an issue of a minority group. They don't hold sway on politics, culture or any such thing.That is a blanket statement at best. The part in bold is actually untrue.
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@Monkey:
Plus I have my problems with it, not enough goals tend to happened, and people are always doing those awful phony injuries to get penalties. I can't stand that part. That's not part of the game, and anyone who says it is is a moron.
This is exactly what I hate from footballer nowadays.
It has happened in the past in the past as well, but as far as I can remember it didn't happen too often in the past.The game itself is beautiful if you really understand it.
And also, it's called football :D
Originally Posted by Emporio Ivankov
"Miracle only descends upon those with the will to carry on. Do not take them so lightly"
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It happens in NBA too. A few times in NFL as well. Football soccer did not invent it.
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@Massimo:
And also, it's called football :D
Can of worms; don't open it.
We have bookings for simulations(play-acting to get favourable referee calls) but those aren't really given out too often. The problem arises because it's hard to see who's acting and who's really injured from the referee's viewpoint. But that argument leads into the one about goal-line technology and use of replays to aid decisions and that gets us nowhere…
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@Massimo:
And also, it's called football :D
Ooh, I have a prepared statement for this!
The original game of football, actually resembled rugby more than soccer, just a less organized version of rugby, and it supposedly finds its roots in a Roman game called Harpastum. In this game players would try to get a ball across the goal line by either kicking it, carrying it, or throwing it. There were no rules other than that, and it was incredibly violent.
In an effort to lessen the injuries, a motion was made to outlaw the use of hands, this caused a split creating "Rugby Football" and As_soc_iated Football (which is where the term soccer for came into play.)
American Football evolved from Rugby as a method of trying to make the game more organized and less violent.
Eventually Rugby and Soccer became two different things, which led to the term soccer being dropped in most countries and "football" being used.
Here in the colonies however, American Football was already quite popular, and to avoid any confusion between the sports, we decided to keep using the term soccer, as did other countries like Canada and Australia.
Now you know, and knowing is half the battle!
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The part about proportional representation is very correct. The popularity of club football is huge in South and South-East Asia which is why a lot of European clubs go and play summer friendlies there and the Club World Cup is also played there. I've seen a LOT of popularity and awareness of football/soccer among Indians, Chinese, Malaysians and Indonesians. Doesn't hide the fact that all those nations are absolutely sht when it comes to actually playing. At least the US national team is internationally relevant and sneak in the odd upset at times.
That is a blanket statement at best. The part in bold is actually untrue.How detailed in my basic statements do I have to get before people are satisfied exactly.
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@Massimo:
This is exactly what I hate from footballer nowadays.
It has happened in the past in the past as well, but as far as I can remember it didn't happen too often in the past.The game itself is beautiful if you really understand it.
And also, it's called football :D
It's called Soccer here, and there's another thing called Football, so excuse us Yanks if we use the Soccer word because it's too weird for us to use a word that means a whole different thing.
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@Monkey:
Fresh off the devastating blow of "sticks and stones" the warrior brandishes his next weapon, proudly crowing the powers of embarrassing fanboy masturbation.
He unzips his pants and gets out hand lotion. "Now witness this mortals" he smiles.Yes, the Vancouver Olympics….
say... something is up here...Americans don't watch soccer lol, at all. Our team is a little throwaway we don't pay attention to or care about so it outsources to get by.
This is like making fun of a jazz band because they don't have a great guitarist lol.
Now a sport we do play of course, Hockey for instance, is pretty good. I recall them beating another country recently....some place cold, boring, and that has more moose than people.....who I think may or may not have thrown the world's most laughable whiny riot in the aftermath?
The Boston Bruins, my local Hockey team did it pretty sure. Now who was the other side.... ....can't seem to recall...Yes because sports works like Chimps on typewriters, by throwing a ton of people at something you win a lot, talent and hard work has nothing to do with it of course.
Please tell me you don't talk like a poser poet/writer in person, if so, it will probably explain the lack of friends you have outside of this forum.
Don't say Americans don't watch soccer, you don't represent them all, so take a seat and put your hand down.
Home town team is the Bruins? Bravo, so they won a cup after how long? I'm sure you're going to bash Milan Lucic as well…he's from Vancouver, damn. Your head coach and GM are Canadian so don't talk smack about more moose than people you ignorant twat. You live in Connecticut? Ha, and I thought the only moron that hailed from there was George Bush senior, now I can count you in as well, thanks. Canada has more gold medals than the U.S ever will in international hockey. So you beat us a FEW times...we can't always hog all the gold medals in hockey what fun would that be? Monkey and type writers...what? Okay I'll ignore that you must be getting to excited over senseless things. Oh by the way, didn't the Capitals smack you guys this year? Oh yea, that was funny and good to watch of course. Chill your nut sack my son remember when the Red Sox fans had a riot in 2004? Yes you guys won but dear God keep it classy. Now am I going to assume that ALL Boston Red Sox fans are morons? No, I don't want to stoop to your ignorant level. Haha calling me lame, ha, you're the one living in Connecticut bro, so exhilarating how do you handle it?
Bobby Orr, Ray Borque, Patrice Bergeron, Horton, Ference, Boychuk, Campbell, Marchand, Peverly, Thorton, Savard and Seguin... they are all Canadian, oh wow what a coincidence huh? I guess they are also apart of the cold, boring more moose than people nation. Hahah you're a joke kiddo. Your team is mostly built off of Canadians and yet you run your mouth about Canada? How many good American players you got on your team? Oh yea none... no wait you have...no...had Thomas.
Before you yap your mouth, leave the ignorance and arrogance behind. So what? America beat Canada woop dee doo! Stop the press.
You guys owe money to so many foreign nations and they are slowly taking control of you. United States of China? Sounds about right. Your government is sloppy and self centered and yet it calls itself a democracy. All of your presidents have had more hands up their asses than a puppet and respect is what your nation will never have. In addition to this your process of "spreading" democracy is a lie that even a blind person can see. The American people are wonderful no doubt but these wonderful people are a minority sadly. The obnoxious, ignorant and arrogant Americans along with their redneck government will always rule and that's just so sad.
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@Monkey:
Soccer is cool, but I think I only occasionally watch it because it's interesting seeing whole countries go against each-other in something rather than cities. I couldn't give less of a damn about club games for instance.
Plus I have my problems with it, not enough goals tend to happened, and people are always doing those awful phony injuries to get penalties. I can't stand that part. That's not part of the game, and anyone who says it is is a moron.
Granted I don't really much watch sports of ANY kind, but I have much more fun watching the big American three when I do. Basketball in particular owns. Small playing area, lots of goals, cool atmosphere.
Just like basketball, you slap another person they cry like a little **ch. The hell is this? Kindergarten? Oh he touched me do something… Not saying basketball is flop it's ok to watch. It's just not fast enough and there is no physical contact and I've played for many years and it's no where near physically demanding when compared to hockey, rugby, American football and football. That's just my two cents though.
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Basketball not fast enough? No PHYSICAL CONTACT? WHAT? LOL. What the hell have you been playing? Half-court fuckball with people shooting the ball like little 5 year olds who have to swing their bodies forward in order to even throw ball?
Soccer is much more demanding than basketball conditioning-wise but basketball is demanding as fuck. I don't believe you've played the sport for many years considering the bullshit you just spouted. The only times people bitch about getting hit in basketball is in the NBA. It's flopping. They try to sell a foul. I guarantee you that no one who plays street basketball will ever give a shit about shooting fouls or over the back fouls or any physical foul.
Now let's just wait for Zephos.
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What? You again? We've moved on boring guy. But if you insist lol.
e town team is the Bruins? bravo so they won a cup after how long? I'm sure you're going to bash Milan Lucic as well…he's from Vancouver, damn.
Who the heck is that. I don't watch Hockey anyway. I just know Boston made a lot of Canadians cry last year and it was really funny. The Bruins are like the side hobby of Boston sports at best. When you have the Celtics, Patriots, and Red Sox to care about Hockey is the stuff you keep in the basement.
So it was kind of like Boston just lazily batted at you and made Vancouver throw a really pathetic tantrum lol.Your head coach and GM are Canadian bud so don't talk smack about more moose than people you ignorant shit.
There probably are more moose than people really. I mean there's more people in New England and New York state than all of Canada. Isn't that insane? hahaha, nobody lives up there.
And again, this is really not the topic to call me ignorant on ever. Not angry, amused, it's reaaaallly not. You have absolutely no idea. Canada? OH WOW, ADVANCED COURSE SHIT. FORGET EXAMINING THE FUCKED UP BORDERS OF CENTRAL ASIA AND THEIR EFFECT OF CITY GROWTH AND ETHNIC DISTRIBUTION.
ITS TIME TO TALK ABOUT CANADIAN POPULATION. IGNORANT MOTHAFUCKA.You live in Connecticut? Ha, and I thought the only moron that hailed from there was George Bush senior,
George Bush Sr? An idiot? Now I don't agree with the policies he had, but he was no idiot.
His SON of course is one of the worst presidents ever, but his son is a Texan. I hope you don't think CT and Texas are alike, that would be…ignorant!Anyway Connecticut is awesome and much better than Canada, sorry. I mean yeah, you have more stuff and all. But see...we have the best real estate in the entire world. And well...we win for that! Plus can a body even get a halfway decent pizza in Canada?
Canada has more gold medals than the U.S ever will
Fuck…!!
in international hockey.
Oh wait lol.
So you beat us a FEW times…we can't always hog all the gold medals
Damn…!!!
in hockey
lol
Monkey and type writers…what?
Not a well read man I take it.
Okay I'll ignore that you must be getting to excited over senseless things. Oh by the way, didn't the Capitals smack you guys this year?
Who the hell are they. That's gotta be the worst non-racist sports team name btw. Isn't that a team from the Simpsons?
Oh yea, that was funny and good to watch of course. Chill your nut sack my son remember when the Red Sox fans had a riot in 2004? Yes you guys won but dear God keep it classy. Now am I going to assume that ALL Boston Red Sox fans are morons? No, I don't want to stoop to your ignorant level.
We riot right in the US, when you win! Boston is filled with drunken Irish people, it's what happens.
Vancouver last year was a bunch of teenagers breaking things lol.Haha calling me lame, ha, you're the one living in Connecticut bro, so exhilarating
And just like that all is lost for the defense of your entire country vs my state.
Bobby Orr, Ray Borque, Patrice Bergeron, Horton, Ference, Boychuk, Campbell, Marchand, Peverly, Thorton, Savard and Seguin… they are all Canadian, oh wow what a coincidence huh?
Wait, Boychuk? Boychuk?? That's a real name??
I guess they are also apart of the cold, boring more moose than people nation.
All those things are true about Canada, I'm not sure why you're acting like I made insults?
Hahah you're a joke kiddo. Your team is mostly built off of Canadians and yet you run your mouth about Canada? How many good American players you got on your team? Oh yea none… no wait you have...no...had Thomas.
There's a ton in the Celtics, Red Sox, Patriots… also considering by location I should really say New York is my hometown. Lots of good Americans in the Yankees, Knicks, Giants....not gonna shill for the Mets though that would be stretching it.
These are the sports people like.Before you yap your mouth, leave the ignorance and arrogance behind.
I'm really the opposite of ignorant about countries, it's such a particularly terrible angle to go at me for.
So what America beat Canada woop dee doo! Stop the press.
I guess that would be a waste of ink to bother saying.
You guys owe money to so many foreign nations and they are slowly taking control of you.
If you'd like to display what exactly China controls than please be my guest.
You can state the policies their influencing for instance.
Such as how we're encouraging political thaw in Burma, which was (is?) their sphere of influence. Or maybe how we opened bases in Australia recently that they don't like. Possibly our opposing positions on the current revolutionary wave too, that's a good one.
Well better get to it!Your government is sloppy and self centered and yet it calls itself a democracy.
Actually compared to much of the world, and considering our size it's a pretty grandly run system. I mean it must be nice to have like eight people, and aside from Quebec (a notoriously neat political situation btw) an insanely homogenous population who largely lives in one province. And of course to be so small and irrelavant and geographically out of the way that you were never even a candidate to get swept into playing the meta-power games of the World Wars, the Cold War, and afterwards wether you liked it or not like we were. When the Brits and French fell from grace somebody kind of had to fill that gap while the Russians were rising, not a happy job. But it was never going to be Canada.
Oh and on Arlong Park? Don't even joke about "HURRR NOT A DEMOCRACY".
Quite simply because that sort of first world insult from stupid teenagers isn't so charmingly cute when people who post here last year lived through revolutions against actual non-democratic governments.
So don't joke about it. Not even just because it's a stupid joke.All of your presidents have had more hands up their asses than a puppet
Um….no? What is this even referring too? International Jewish Bankers? Aliens? Reptilians? The Illuminati? Dick Cheney? Alright that last one was true.
and respect is what your nation will never have.
I'd like to see Canada be put in our position for one week lol. See how you handle it.
The American people are wonderful no doubt but they are a minority sadly. The obnoxious, ignorant and arrogant Americans will always rule and that's just so sad.
You really love that ignorant line don't you. Do you really want to try me on that?
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Basketball not fast enough? No PHYSICAL CONTACT? WHAT? LOL. What the hell have you been playing? Half-court fuckball with people shooting the ball like little 5 year olds who have to swing their bodies forward in order to even throw ball?
Well it's Canada so, you know.
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The irony lies in the fact that some old Canadian teacher invented basketball.
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What the hell did the US economy have to do with anything?
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What the hell did the US economy have to do with anything?
He was really mad about the moose comment….
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You'll all regret mocking our delicious and rideable moose when the gas and food runs out
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@Monkey:
Zephos spitting hot fire at Alpha
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You'll all regret mocking our delicious and rideable moose when the gas and food runs out
Seems to be Scandinavia is cool about being a couple people or so living in cold woods with large hooved mammals. Don't know why Canada can't accept who they are….must be their size...gives them big ideas.
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Excuse me??? This appear to be a Basket-ball game? I do not think this is fitting for expressing exertion of any kind?
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Basketball not fast enough? No PHYSICAL CONTACT? WHAT? LOL. What the hell have you been playing? Half-court fuckball with people shooting the ball like little 5 year olds who have to swing their bodies forward in order to even throw ball?
Soccer is much more demanding than basketball conditioning-wise but basketball is demanding as fuck. I don't believe you've played the sport for many years considering the bullshit you just spouted. The only times people bitch about getting hit in basketball is in the NBA. It's flopping. They try to sell a foul. I guarantee you that no one who plays street basketball will ever give a shit about shooting fouls or over the back fouls or any physical foul.
Now let's just wait for Zephos.
I have played it for years, with the NBA set of rules and regulations. Streetball comes down to pride and the love of the game NBA not so much. I was referring to the NBA when it comes to fouls not street ball. I don't sell shit to anyone whether I get fouled or not that's the refs call not mine I wouldn't complain either way.
Like I stated it's not fast enough and I stick by that having played AAA hockey and rep soccer. Physical contact wise it's not as harsh as, again hockey or football, period.
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@Monkey:
Seems to be Scandinavia is cool about being a couple people or so living in cold woods with large hooved mammals. Don't know why Canada can't accept who they are….must be their size...gives them big ideas.
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Excuse me??? This appear to be a Basket-ball game? I do not think this is fitting for expressing exertion of any kind?
Size and ideas? Speak for yourself my American forum buddy. Look at the countries your nation has rapped due to it's "size and ideas" . Brush up on your history kiddo. Only reason no one touches America is because, it's just simply not worth it.
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@Monkey:
Seems to be Scandinavia is cool about being a couple people or so living in cold woods with large hooved mammals.
Except the Danes. Those wimps would faint if they ever saw a pine, much less a moose
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@Monkey:
What? You again? We've moved on boring guy. But if you insist lol.
Who the heck is that. I don't watch Hockey anyway. I just know Boston made a lot of Canadians cry last year and it was really funny. The Bruins are like the side hobby of Boston sports at best. When you have the Celtics, Patriots, and Red Sox to care about Hockey is the stuff you keep in the basement.
So it was kind of like Boston just lazily batted at you and made Vancouver throw a really pathetic tantrum lol.There probably are more moose than people really. I mean there's more people in New England and New York state than all of Canada. Isn't that insane? hahaha, nobody lives up there.
And again, this is really not the topic to call me ignorant on ever. Not angry, amused, it's reaaaallly not. You have absolutely no idea. Canada? OH WOW, ADVANCED COURSE SHIT. FORGET EXAMINING THE FUCKED UP BORDERS OF CENTRAL ASIA AND THEIR EFFECT OF CITY GROWTH AND ETHNIC DISTRIBUTION.
ITS TIME TO TALK ABOUT CANADIAN POPULATION. IGNORANT MOTHAFUCKA.George Bush Sr? An idiot? Now I don't agree with the policies he had, but he was no idiot.
His SON of course is one of the worst presidents ever, but his son is a Texan. I hope you don't think CT and Texas are alike, that would be…ignorant!Anyway Connecticut is awesome and much better than Canada, sorry. I mean yeah, you have more stuff and all. But see...we have the best real estate in the entire world. And well...we win for that! Plus can a body even get a halfway decent pizza in Canada?
Fuck...!!
Oh wait lol.
Damn...!!!
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Not a well read man I take it.
Who the hell are they. That's gotta be the worst non-racist sports team name btw. Isn't that a team from the Simpsons?
We riot right in the US, when you win! Boston is filled with drunken Irish people, it's what happens.
Vancouver last year was a bunch of teenagers breaking things lol.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Demescus/ctowns1.png
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And just like that all is lost for the defense of your entire country vs my state.
Wait, Boychuk? Boychuk?? That's a real name??
All those things are true about Canada, I'm not sure why you're acting like I made insults?
There's a ton in the Celtics, Red Sox, Patriots… also considering by location I should really say New York is my hometown. Lots of good Americans in the Yankees, Knicks, Giants....not gonna shill for the Mets though that would be stretching it.
These are the sports people like.I'm really the opposite of ignorant about countries, it's such a particularly terrible angle to go at me for.
I guess that would be a waste of ink to bother saying.
If you'd like to display what exactly China controls than please be my guest.
You can state the policies their influencing for instance.
Such as how we're encouraging political thaw in Burma, which was (is?) their sphere of influence. Or maybe how we opened bases in Australia recently that they don't like. Possibly our opposing positions on the current revolutionary wave too, that's a good one.
Well better get to it!Actually compared to much of the world, and considering our size it's a pretty grandly run system. I mean it must be nice to have like eight people, and aside from Quebec (a notoriously neat political situation btw) an insanely homogenous population who largely lives in one province. And of course to be so small and irrelavant and geographically out of the way that you were never even a candidate to get swept into playing the meta-power games of the World Wars, the Cold War, and afterwards wether you liked it or not like we were. When the Brits and French fell from grace somebody kind of had to fill that gap while the Russians were rising, not a happy job. But it was never going to be Canada.
Oh and on Arlong Park? Don't even joke about "HURRR NOT A DEMOCRACY".
Quite simply because that sort of first world insult from stupid teenagers isn't so charmingly cute when people who post here last year lived through revolutions against actual non-democratic governments.
So don't joke about it. Not even just because it's a stupid joke.Um….no? What is this even referring too? International Jewish Bankers? Aliens? Reptilians? The Illuminati? Dick Cheney? Alright that last one was true.
I'd like to see Canada be put in our position for one week lol. See how you handle it.
You really love that ignorant line don't you. Do you really want to try me on that?
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Well it's Canada so, you know.
Wow you sure wrote a lot, to bad I didn't read it.
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Except the Danes. Those wimps would faint if they ever saw a pine, much less a moose
Flat peninsulas blow, Jutland can go to heck!
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@Alpha:
Wow you sure wrote a lot, to bad I didn't read it.
I actually do have geography expertise lol, it's even my major! I've been promised paid graduate programs because of how neat I am at it!
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Alpha, obviously basketball is not as physical as football or hockey. It's not supposed to be. One of the main points of American football is tackling. You get fights in hockey all the time and the most they'll penalize you with is time spent in the time-out box. Basketball doesn't focus on physical bodily harm as much so comparing it to those two sports is just fucking stupid. When you block a guy you're not supposed to hit his hand or head, just the ball. When you steal it, likewise. The only thing that's meant to be physical is boxing out a guy and defending him. What kind of stupid comparison did you just make.
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@Monkey:
Flat peninsulas blow, Jutland can go to heck!
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[/hide]Behold the mightiest mountain in all of Denmark. 561 ft of hardship for a stout man to conquer
I'm feeling the mountain/tree thing you top two got (specialy Norway, no offense but fjords seem like they really rule). Something's rotten in the state of Denmark indeed.
Hey i'm with you. Fjords are where it's at
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@Monkey:
Flat peninsulas blow, Jutland can go to heck!
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I actually do have geography expertise lol, it's even my major! I've been promised paid graduate programs because of how neat I am at it!
You just can't win Canada!Good for you keep it up. That drawing will get you hired. You can work for the U.S militarty and map out Iran in good time. Besides I wasn't trying to win anything, but hey whatever floats your boat. I debate in person not over the internet cause it lacks many face to face attributes so i don't really put forth an effort.
Monkey King I must say though your facts were good and you put up good arguments. Respect to that!
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Alpha, obviously basketball is not as physical as football or hockey. It's not supposed to be. One of the main points of American football is tackling. You get fights in hockey all the time and the most they'll penalize you with is time spent in the time-out box. Basketball doesn't focus on physical bodily harm as much so comparing it to those two sports is just fucking stupid. When you block a guy you're not supposed to hit his hand or head, just the ball. When you steal it, likewise. The only thing that's meant to be physical is boxing out a guy and defending him. What kind of stupid comparison did you just make.
Have you ever tried Ice Fishing? It's fucking exhilarating.
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@Alpha:
Size and ideas? Speak for yourself my American forum buddy.
We fill out our size though. Y'know, like Brazil, Indonesia, India, China.
Canada is huge but empty, seems you get sore from me pointing out this doesn't mean much, and means lots of moose.Look at the countries your nation has rapped due to it's "size and ideas" .
That's the thing Canada. It's a little…Peanut Galleryish for a remote corner of the world with few people that has no involvement on any real level with anything calling out how people are in the mess of the huge international Meta-Stage. Before us and the Russians in the Cold War period was the Brits and French, and these days it's mostly just the Russians. These are big huge messy games. No nation involved comes home bloodless. It's a thankless miserable mess that has fianlly started to subside with the end of the Cold War. Only the Russians act like that anymore. America does not.
I think you honestly consider Canada to be on the par with a country involved in the meta-game, comparable. It's not. If you had been in our shoes I'm sure you would have made all the same mistakes and victories. Maybe different ones, but you would have had no better a track record.
But you're lucky by virtue of your position and history to have a sort of gilded little gated community experience with the 20th Century and so on. I'm glad for you to not have to experience the life of regrets, stresses, and burdens filling in a huge hole brings. But it's damned ....unseemingly acting superior because of it.Brush up on your history kiddo.
I know more history than things you know.
Only reason no one touches America is because, it's just simply not worth it.
Touches us? How? We still pull in immigrants in massive quantities, and not Mexicans, the general immigration wave. We're still the main force for the NATO/Western whatever you wanna call it. The one you also belong to btw. Our culture is still everywhere to the point that in Cyprus American flag t shirts are popular for some reason.
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@Alpha:
Good for you keep it up. That drawing will get you hired. You can work for the U.S militarty and map out Iran in good time.
You really don't think I'm serious do you lol.
Also an attack on Iran would be disasterous, the regime should be waited on to crumble from within.
Knowing the irritating hands off views though I'm willing to bet your Iran stance casts their government in some "oppressed by the first world perfectly fine Sonderweg system people should leave be".
I bet you were just livid last year about Libya! There goes America again!Besides I wasn't trying to win anything, but hey whatever floats your boat. I debate in person not over the internet cause it lacks many face to face attributes so i don't really put forth an effort.
The heck does face to face have to do with debating lol. Ad Hominem shit right there.
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@Monkey:
We fill out our size though. Y'know, like Brazil, Indonesia, India, China.
Canada is huge but empty, seems you get sore from me pointing out this doesn't mean much, and means lots of moose.That's the thing Canada. It's a little…Peanut Galleryish for a remote corner of the world with few people that has no involvement on any real level with anything calling out how people are in the mess of the huge international Meta-Stage. Before us and the Russians in the Cold War period was the Brits and French, and these days it's mostly just the Russians. These are big huge messy games. No nation involved comes home bloodless. It's a thankless miserable mess that has fianlly started to subside with the end of the Cold War. Only the Russians act like that anymore. America does not.
I think you honestly consider Canada to be on the par with a country involved in the meta-game, comparable. It's not. If you had been in our shoes I'm sure you would have made all the same mistakes and victories. Maybe different ones, but you would have had no better a track record.
But you're lucky by virtue of your position and history to have a sort of gilded little gated community experience with the 20th Century and so on. I'm glad for you to not have to experience the life of regrets, stresses, and burdens filling in a huge hole brings. But it's damned ....unseemingly acting superior because of it.I know more history than things you know.
Touches us? How? We still pull in immigrants in massive quantities, and not Mexicans, the general immigration wave. We're still the main force for the NATO/Western whatever you wanna call it. The one you also belong to btw. Our culture is still everywhere to the point that in Cyprus American flag t shirts are popular for some reason.
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You really don't think I'm serious do you lol.
Also an attack on Iran would be disasterous, the regime should be waited on to crumble from within.
Knowing the irritating hands off views though I'm willing to bet your Iran stance casts their government in some "oppressed by the first world perfectly fine Sonderweg system people should leave be".
I bet you were just livid last year about Libya! There goes America again!The heck does face to face have to do with debating lol. Ad Hominem shit right there.
Damn right I was livid about Libya! Not. I do take you seriously.
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Damn right I was livid about Libya! Not.
hahahah "I'm only interested in America doing stuff when I wanna yell at dudes and feel good about all the moose" tokes up a huge leaf alone in thousands of miles of woods
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Hahah! I live in Toronto so we don't have as many woods here. There is this place called pioneer village, bro…the name says it all. I went there once, don't ask why, I was bored out of my ass. Besides, in terms of weed, Vancouver has the best, so it's what I've heard. I love the American people they are the same as anyone else out there. I don't hate America never have never will just at times I don't agree with what they do as with any other government out there, i.e, Saudi Arabia should eliminate the Sharia law, women need their rights as well.
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Besides, in terms of weed, Vancouver has the best, so it's what I've heard.
Hear it here again… It's one of the best! Been to Canada for vacation once and had a good time with it
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