Next Strawhat Crewmate (Vol. 6)
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MONET !!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub:
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She's dead though, isn't she?
Nope, she's alive, (cause Oda has certain requirements about death she didn't meet. She wasn't smiling, her death had no meaning, and her dreams weren't fulfilled or passed on. If she'd died two pages sooner, she'd have met all those requisites, but then she didn't. So she's fine. Plus Vergo was there too and Oda's not about to kill TWO named characters when it doesn't actually advance the story in some major way. ) We'll see her in the next coverstory once the Doflamingo arc is done.
She got a more violent seeming fall to unconscious than usual, but she'll still be fine in the end. The knife that apparently stabbed her was stuck in the floor next to the heart in the next chapter, not through it. Also, she was coughing blood before the "stabbing" thanks to Tashigi's hit, so regardless of presentation and dramatic effect, she wasn't necesarilly reacting explicitly to her heart being stabbed. Jostled, maybe. . The ice pick may have grazed her, but Ceaser basically missed, despite dramatic appearances. She'll be fine.
All that said, no, she's not in any way, shape or form joining the crew.
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If either are alive, (I doubt it because someone would had to save them) I hope that they are in their way to Impel Down.
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MONET !!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub:
Green text, caps, lots of exclamation points and an in love smiley, great argument she is joining for sure.
Her wings are too big to fit through Sunny doors.
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If either are alive, (I doubt it because someone would had to save them) I hope that they are in their way to Impel Down.
The Marines and Kuzan were there afterward. And Monet's heart was right next to Ceaser's unconscious form.
But given that we're not likely to visit Impel Down again, it seems more likely after Doflamingo's fall, she'll go on to be an astrologer or something. No idea what Vergo will do with his position as spy defunt and Dofla dethroned. I figure her cover story will probably be finding her heart though.
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I hope that Enel deepfries her chicken wings for feeding meth to children.
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It's dead 'till coverstory proves us wrong
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Shouldn't Oda also tell us why she asked to be turned into a harpy of all things? Every time we went into flashback mode, she was a regular human, back to the present, harpy. She was interested in Law's ability, and that scene was cut, so it's almost 100% she asked Law to turn her into a harpy. . .but why? Cause she's obsessed with the stars and wanted to fly to get there? Kinda super silly, but could work.
Also, her "obsession" with astrology comes from a single panel of some piled books if I'm not mistaken, so it's all sketchy at best. I'm expecting Oda will, one day, adress all that, even if it is on an SBS. . .
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Shouldn't Oda also tell us why she asked to be turned into a harpy of all things? Every time we went into flashback mode, she was a regular human, back to the present, harpy. She was interested in Law's ability, and that scene was cut, so it's almost 100% she asked Law to turn her into a harpy. . .but why? Cause she's obsessed with the stars and wanted to fly to get there? Kinda super silly, but could work.
Also, her "obsession" with astrology comes from a single panel of some piled books if I'm not mistaken, so it's all sketchy at best. I'm expecting Oda will, one day, adress all that, even if it is on an SBS. . .
We saw her with a book on astrology, spelled out in English! We saw her become a bird woman. Oda went out of his way to specifically put that particular book there, as one of her earliest impressions, so he wanted it to be clear she had at least an interest in astrology and the skies.
The rest kind of pieces itself together, and its all we're gonna get for a minor defeated character (barring cover story.).
Similarly, he's not going to spell out that Perona's first pet bear KumaA died, and she later had it replaced with stuffed doll KumaCy. (there was probably a B in there as well.) He put a very clear detail in there, and that she wanted to live in a spooky castle, some more in an SBS, and thats what we have to extrapolate from.. and we can get a lot of her connecting with Moria from that… and even more so given she stuck around with Mihawk later.
It's not like it was a live action shoot and the choice of book was accidental.
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We saw her with a book on astrology, spelled out in English! We saw her become a bird woman. Oda went out of his way to specifically put that particular book there, as one of her earliest impressions, so he wanted it to be clear she had at least an interest in astrology and the skies.
The rest kind of pieces itself together, and its all we're gonna get for a minor defeated character (barring cover story.).
Similarly, he's not going to spell out that Perona's first pet bear KumaA died, and she later had it replaced with stuffed doll KumaCy. (there was probably a B in there as well.) He put a very clear detail in there, and that she wanted to live in a spooky castle, some more in an SBS, and thats what we have to extrapolate from.. and we can get a lot of her connecting with Moria from that… and even more so given she stuck around with Mihawk later.
It's not like it was a live action shoot and the choice of book was accidental.
Oh, I don't doubt it was intentional, and it's true he did the "fill in the dots" with Perona's bear backstory (Greg mentioned Kuma B I think, so maybe in an in-between flashback panel there was KumaB?), but Perona was never left in a limbo state of dead or alive (well, she kinda was, but not stabbed through the heart and the like), so filling the dots with her was more Oda having a lil fun with his characters than out of need. Monet has people wondering if she's even alive, so he does need to at least answer that, and I just hope he uses that chance to bring back those points, the harpy and astrology thingies.
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Was astrology or astronomy?
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Eeeeeh?! But Nami can't get her DF if Monet is alive :ninja:
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Monet definitely feels more like a Hachi character than Perona. I suspect she'll bring some answers regarding moon stuff the next time she comes back.
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I'm hoping eventually all the Supernovas will gather under the Straw Hat flag, like the NW captains under Whitebeard. Not a crew, but loyal allies. After much conflict, disagreement, fights, and developing friendship of course. I love those type of story epics.
I can see that happening after the other supernovas fail to take down a yonko.
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It's dead 'till coverstory proves us wrong
This right here is 100% true
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Monet definitely feels more like a Hachi character than Perona. I suspect she'll bring some answers regarding moon stuff the next time she comes back.
I trust Enel about any and all topics concerning the moon since he owns it now.
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If either are alive, (I doubt it because someone would had to save them) I hope that they are in their way to Impel Down.
Parts of Vergo may be…
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Parts of Vergo may be…
Next time we will see Vergo he will be this size (shrunken Luffy size)
Because he was unable to find half of parts of his body
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Vergo will eat the Axolotl DF.
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Next time we will see Vergo he will be this size (shrunken Luffy size)
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Because he was unable to find half of parts of his body
That will be the new cover story after Jinbe's. It will be him and Monet. He will be getting his parts back like Buggy on Punk Hazard.
Vergo will eat the Axolotl DF.
I don't even know how to feel about this. I'm sure you're joking but thinking about it seriously wouldn't that be out of place? An axolotl with a piece of food stuck to its face…with facial hair...and shades...and could have a unique cool design...well maybe it could work.:ninja:
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hahahah, it´s funny ´cause the Axolotl can regenerate any limb.
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That will be the new cover story after Jinbe's. It will be him and Monet. He will be getting his parts back like Buggy on Punk Hazard.
I don't even know how to feel about this. I'm sure you're joking but thinking about it seriously wouldn't that be out of place? An axolotl with a piece of food stuck to its face…with facial hair...and shades...and could have a unique cool design...well maybe it could work.:ninja:
Well to be honest… i'm not joking... I can see it coming... I doubt they have shown the DF regrown just to never be used again... Even more if is the very first amphibious species DF
Of course this won't happen if Vergo has the metal DF as Kyros
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Well to be honest… i'm not joking... I can see it coming... I doubt they have shown the DF regrown just to never be used again... Even more if is the very first amphibious species DF
That was just Oda showing us in an organic way how fruits are reborn and that its not just myth that they come back. That way it wasn't totally out of left field when Ace's fruit was up for grabs just a handful of chapters later.
Of course this won't happen if Vergo has the metal DF as Kyros
If he had any sort of fruit it would have been mentioned before he was taken basically permanently out of the story. He only had really good haki hardening, nothing more.
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Well to be honest… i'm not joking... I can see it coming... I doubt they have shown the DF regrown just to never be used again... Even more if is the very first amphibious species DF
Of course this won't happen if Vergo has the metal DF as Kyros
In Cnet128 translation Diamante asked Kyros if he is made out of pure iron or stupidity - it was asking figuratively while Sanji asked if Vergo is made out of metal. So Vergo being Alloy man is still more possible than Kyros lol Check out Onepunch Man and character named Darkshine Alloy from it along the way.
As for Axolotl devil fruit - Brownbeard has been allowed to go through island and search for his man. So with his bodybuild(crocodile/ aligator) and design in general he is perfect candidate for eating Axolotl devil fruit, not Vergo.
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That was just Oda showing us in an organic way how fruits are reborn and that its not just myth that they come back. That way it wasn't totally out of left field when Ace's fruit was up for grabs just a handful of chapters later.
If he had any sort of fruit it would have been mentioned before he was taken basically permanently out of the story. He only had really good haki hardening, nothing more.
Robby you should know it was just a joke about the metal DF.
And I get that showing the DF regrowing was important as well. But still I can see Vergo getting it. he is there, he has no DF and he is in pieces… So who knows. If he doesn't get I do not care and the DF will stay there to the end of time... Which would be a waste in my eyes, cuz I would love to see the fruit used by a human being.
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In Cnet128 translation Diamante asked Kyros if he is made out of pure iron or stupidity - it was asking figuratively while Sanji asked if Vergo is made out of metal. So Vergo being Alloy man is still more possible than Kyros lol Check out Onepunch Man and character named Darkshine Alloy from it along the way.
As for Axolotl devil fruit - Brownbeard has been allowed to go through island and search for his man. So with his bodybuild(crocodile/ aligator) and design in general he is perfect candidate for eating Axolotl devil fruit, not Vergo.
I always read Cnet128 translation… And it doesn't change shit as Robby pointed out.
Doubt that Brownbeard got it..: But who knows
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I believe that Brownbeard will eat the Axolotl fruit.
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If he had any sort of fruit it would have been mentioned before he was taken basically permanently out of the story. He only had really good haki hardening, nothing more.
and tekkai too probably.
also, Vergo eating it makes sense, that animal regenerates his own limbs which would be what Vergo needs the most in order to get out of there and save Monet in the process.
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Robby you should know it was just a joke about the metal DF.
And I get that showing the DF regrowing was important as well. But still I can see Vergo getting it. he is there, he has no DF and he is in pieces… So who knows. If he doesn't get I do not care and the DF will stay there to the end of time... Which would be a waste in my eyes, cuz I would love to see the fruit used by a human being.
I always read Cnet128 translation... And it doesn't change shit as Robby pointed out.
Doubt that Brownbeard got it..: But who knows
and tekkai too probably.
also, Vergo eating it makes sense, that animal regenerates his own limbs which would be what Vergo needs the most in order to get out of there and save Monet in the process.
Do you both care to explain how Vergo would manage to get from SAD room to area where Axolotl fruit was left? Like you try to link Vergos lost limbs(mkay..) with Axolotl DF that is in another part of island so he would skip on one leg for example such distance to find Devil Fruit he has no idea about?
Beside that - how can you tell that Vergo knows that there is a bag with devil fruit there while he didnt even knew what Cesars experiment was all about?
I can absolutely more easily see Brownbeard going there to save people, then find a bag of apples, mindlessly eating them and becomming Axolotl Devil Fruit user.
Also no need to be "rude" by saying what I wrote doesnt change shit.
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Do you both care to explain how Vergo would manage to get from SAD room to area where Axolotl fruit was left? Like you try to link Vergos lost limbs(mkay..) with Axolotl DF that is in another part of island so he would skip on one leg for example such distance to find Devil Fruit he has no idea about?
Beside that - how can you tell that Vergo knows that there is a bag with devil fruit there while he didnt even knew what Cesars experiment was all about?
I can absolutely more easily see Brownbeard going there to save people, then find a bag of apples, mindlessly eating them and becomming Axolotl Devil Fruit user.
Also no need to be "rude" by saying what I wrote doesnt change shit.
Vergo will roll his head all around the island till he gets there…
I'm not rude bit it doesn't change anything that Vergo hasn't a metal DF.
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The SAD room exploded, explosions are sooo deadly that Pell died three times and came back from death, his face all covered up with CoA could resist it and the boom send his face flying away, then starving finds the DF, eats it, becomes axolotl man with the ability of regenerate limbs so he doesn´t need to find his entire body and saves Monet.
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Vergo will roll his head all around the island till he gets there…
I'm not rude bit it doesn't change anything that Vergo hasn't a metal DF.
The SAD room exploded, explosions are sooo deadly that Pell died three times and came back from death, his face all covered up with CoA could resist it and the boom send his face flying away, then starving finds the DF, eats it, becomes axolotl man with the ability of regenerate limbs so he doesn´t need to find his entire body and saves Monet.
Holy shit.. You both are trying far too hard on this one. Roll his head? His head was cut in two pieces. First he would have to get it together and thinking his head would be blown to around place where Axolotl DF is ? Oh boy.. And of course it would come together while flying yes?
And also didnt replied on how they know Vergo would know about that Devil Fruit being among apples.
As for Vergo having or not having DF I think its best to close subject. No need to recycle exchange of opinions. -
Holy shit.. You both are trying far too hard on this one. Roll his head? His head was cut in two pieces. First he would have to get it together and thinking his head would be blown to around place where Axolotl DF is ? Oh boy.. And of course it would come together while flying yes?
And also didnt replied on how they know Vergo would know about that Devil Fruit being among apples.
As for Vergo having or not having DF I think its best to close subject. No need to recycle exchange of opinions.he doesn´t need to know, he´ll just eat it.
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Pretty sure Brownbeard was taken away by the Marines.
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Well, Vergo can actually come back to the story right before the Reviere and be used as a method to show how the Marines are somewhat corrupted thus leading to the civil war that will eventually happen. Vergo coming back to oppose the Strawhats once again is something that will probably never happen again.
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Pretty sure Brownbeard was taken away by the Marines.
Moments before Doflamingo came to Punk Hazard we gotten scene with Brownbeard thanking Smoker for letting him go into island for search of his man.
So its more than likely that he also went to help people around place when Smiley died. Brownbeard was also wearing "protective gear" in that scene so its even more of a hint that he will try to go where Shinokuni still was in the air.That was last time when we seen Brownbeard.
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Monet's heart was left at a too easy to spot place - right in front of the SAD tanker - for it not to be picked up by someone.
A future story will most likely be her searching for her heart.
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Moments before Doflamingo came to Punk Hazard we gotten scene with Brownbeard thanking Smoker for letting him go into island for search of his man.
So its more than likely that he also went to help people around place when Smiley died. Brownbeard was also wearing "protective gear" in that scene so its even more of a hint that he will try to go where Shinokuni still was in the air.That was last time when we seen Brownbeard.
So what purpose in the One Piece story would a Brownbeard cover story need to take place? Not seeing it come up again later otherwise. It would have to start in the past with Brownbeard looking for his men. Maybe we uncover the mystery of the frozen people in Punk Hazard. Learn of Vergo and Monet. See how Smoker is doing once Brownbeard gets rearrested. The axolotl reuse possibility. It could be interesting but would it?
Edit: Maybe Brownbeard or whatver cover story gives us a hint to the next nakama not named Jinbe?!
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So what purpose in the One Piece story would a Brownbeard cover story need to take place? Not seeing it come up again later otherwise. It would have to start in the past with Brownbeard looking for his men. Maybe we uncover the mystery of the frozen people in Punk Hazard. Learn of Vergo and Monet. See how Smoker is doing once Brownbeard gets rearrested. The axolotl reuse possibility. It could be interesting but would it?
Edit: Maybe Brownbeard or whatver cover story gives us a hint to the next nakama not named Jinbe?!
I also expected cover story with Brownbeard as it would be perfect for explaining what happened on PH after Strawhats left and it would answer some questions we are left with - frozen prizoners etc
I still want it.
Oda could pull it off with Axolotl DF being eaten by Brownbeard, no idea what for etc but I find it more likely than Vergo eating it. -
With all this talk about Monet, her wings and astrology, I'm half expecting her cover story to end with her on the moon being approached by some very tiny shadows.
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I also expected cover story with Brownbeard as it would be perfect for explaining what happened on PH after Strawhats left and it would answer some questions we are left with - frozen prizoners etc
I still want it.
Oda could pull it off with Axolotl DF being eaten by Brownbeard, no idea what for etc but I find it more likely than Vergo eating it.Tagichi could eat it and practice the poison sword style
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The poison was in the gas, not in the axotol.
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Yep. KumaB was likely the stuffed animal which may be seen during a Hogback flashback when he was asked to join up with the crew. The interesting bit is, it actually was given a different name in the figurine version of Perona holding it but bigger details have slipped under the watchful eye of the editors before.
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Regarding her book's title, it's never made clear. Only ASTRO is legible but the assumption is that it's astronomy consider everything else about her.
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I need some clarification on the Oda comments about next crewmates joining successively. Is there a common consensus if we know the next crewmates will be Jinbe and one other or Jinbe and two others? So the 1st one is 11 total versus 12 total crewmates.
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I need some clarification on the Oda comments about next crewmates joining successively. Is there a common consensus if we know the next crewmates will be Jinbe and one other or Jinbe and two others? So the 1st one is 11 total versus 12 total crewmates.
I think when Oda gave that statement he was talking about Jinbe and some mystery mate. Jinbe is not officially a part of the crew yet, not even an honorary .5 like Vivi. So my assumption is that Oda was basically saying that who ever joins next be it Jinbe then someone else or someone else then Jinbe, it will happen back to back. Though back to back in One Piece time is like 35 years.
Ask Greg though, If I remember correctly he championed for Jinbe more than anyone else. I never seen a guy root for Jinbe more than him. He whole heartedly believes Jinbe is joining. In actuality he believed he wouldn't join in the past and I don't know where he stands now.
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The people I remember talking about Jinbe were brennen, Urouge, Robby, Shift and there were other supporter me and a bunch of other people but Urouge and brennen made the best arguments back then.
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Ask Greg though, If I remember correctly he championed for Jinbe more than anyone else. I never seen a guy root for Jinbe more than him. He whole heartedly believes Jinbe is joining. In actuality he believed he wouldn't join in the past and I don't know where he stands now.
He was actually pretty against it up until they shared one of the volume covers. The people that really pushed the matter were
@GetsugaZoro:The people I remember talking about Jinbe were brennen, Urouge, Robby, Shift and there were other supporter me and a bunch of other people but Urouge and brennen made the best arguments back then.
Yeah, us.
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He was actually pretty against it up until they shared one of the volume covers. The people that really pushed the matter were
Yeah, us.
Oh yeah I remember. We used to have private conversations about it all the time and I still give him a hard time about it. I just wanted to get a rise out of him however small. Should have quoted him I guess. I do remember the day the volume cover was revealed with Jinbe standing with the Straw Hats like he was one of them, that was one of the first times Greg acknowledged the possibility. Though the chapter Luffy asked Jinbe to join, Greg was certain Jinbe would not join there and then. I asked him about it later and he mentioned Jinbe being the new Vivi. Once it was revealed that he wasn't going to be getting any Vivi style cover pages I never found out his opinion on the mater. So with that being said…
Yep. KumaB was likely the stuffed animal which may be seen during a Hogback flashback when he was asked to join up with the crew. The interesting bit is, it actually was given a different name in the figurine version of Perona holding it but bigger details have slipped under the watchful eye of the editors before.
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Regarding her book's title, it's never made clear. Only ASTRO is legible but the assumption is that it's astronomy consider everything else about her.
Greg what is your opinion on Jinbe now? I know you and I have discussed it or maybe I've just been discussing it with myself. Still I was never clear on your prediction for him after he didn't get cover pages like Vivi.
The people I remember talking about Jinbe were brennen, Urouge, Robby, Shift and there were other supporter me and a bunch of other people but Urouge and brennen made the best arguments back then.
I was not convinced about Jinbe until Urouge or Brennen said something to the affect of, "…Jinbe is all weaknesses..." I thought about it for a second and I realized, yeah, what has he accomplished alone? When has he won? Where are is auto kill moves? My biggest hang up was initially that he was too high up in the One Piece world's food chain.
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So I am under the impression that just one more person besides Jinbe is the general consensus. If so, what crew position would be the most likely to be filled. If Jinbe is the boat swain then I think it is between helmsman and lookout. I am leaning towards helmsman as the New World seas are sure to be extremely dangerous at times that someone with skills behind the wheel will be needed.
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I agree with Jinbe plus one. As for that one, I still think that it will most likely be a new character we haven't seen before, and I'm not going to bother theorizing that one.
However…the more I think about it, the more I'm rooting for Caesar. Oh, sure, he's a nearly irredeemable horrible monster who happily lies to and sacrifices his subordinates, a definite no-no as far Luffy is concerned. But where's he going to go next? Doffy wants him, Kaido wants him, Big Mom wants him, the Marines want him, the underworld brokers in the New World want him, and the World Government and the Revolutionaries probably want him. He may be left with no other options than to beg the Strawhats to take him just so everyone who wants to kill him won't get their hands on him. And no other Strawhat has had a similar situation.
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Oh wait, I guess there was Robin. But still, that was different, right? Right!? Maybe not, but still.
Anyway, he's a scientist, a logia, and a villain, which are new, and a coward, a (relative) weakling, and makes funny faces, which are tried and true Strawhat traits. He also has knowledge on devil fruits no one else does, which will undoubtedly come up as SMILE continues to be relevant. It could work. I'm not gonna cry if I'm wrong about this, though.
Sorry if this has been discussed already, but this thread is 600 pages long, give me a break for my first post :happy: