I think SAD stands for Small Artificial Devil, the smaller a Devil the lower the power, which explains why they can only make Zoans fruits.
Chapter 689: Seemingly non-existent island.
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While it would line up nicely with the story for it to be big maam with a zoan army, I think it would be more luffy-like for him to take on 2 yonkou at the same time without caring about the consequences. thats the way to really make waves in the NW
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Okay, the first half of the chapter was a bit bit too focused on Brownbeard for my tastes, though I can at least understand the reasoning for it. But the second half picked up quite a bit with the mention of a ARMY of Devil Fruit users, proving once again that the New World will be no joke and will make the Grand Line look like nothing in comparison. Also, I did not even realize Caribou was on the same island Drake visited where Kaido is, so thanks for pointing that out.
It looks like the final fight against Ceaser is here and I'm getting excited for it.
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Did you read what I wrote earlier? This proves that hardening is not just a visualisating of CoA, because if it was, it(hardening) wouldn't be in this panel, because hitting Logia shows CoA already.
Unless Oda decided he wants to use it whenever there is CoA, rather than whenever CoA is being used but not apparent. I hope all of this nonsense gets cleared up in an SBS, until then, we should just leave it alone.
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Unless Oda decided he wants to use it whenever there is CoA, rather than whenever CoA is being used but not apparent. I hope all of this nonsense gets cleared up in an SBS, until then, we should just leave it alone.
There is nothing no clear up. It is simply another way of using CoA.
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There is nothing no clear up. It is simply another way of using CoA.
I haven't seen any lines either confirming or denying that, so I can't really agree with your statement. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, we honestly have no way of knowing. I'd prefer it if you stopped voicing your opinions as fact though, a simple "I think that" or "I believe that" or "Maybe" preceding your opinions would be very much appreciated.
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Good to see Brownbeard around, and this is one of the rare cases where Luffy's simplicity is actually refreshing. So while the chapter was good, for every week that passes I'm more or more bothered about Franky's absence. In Fishman Island, he was absent all the time except for the climax (I know he met up with Den, but Den himself was so insignificant that it doesn't really matter…), and now, he is absent all the time DURING the climax. Poor guy's not getting the attention he deserves, and I actually miss the time he had more depth than being a robot.
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I haven't seen any lines either confirming or denying that, so I can't really agree with your statement. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, we honestly have no way of knowing. I'd prefer it if you stopped voicing your opinions as fact though, a simple "I think that" or "I believe that" or "Maybe" preceding your opinions would be very much appreciated.
I voice my facts as facts and my opinions as opinions. Remember when CC was introduced and some people argued if he was a Logia, even though it was beyond obvious? It's the same thing. A popular theory was that it is a way of showing CoA, however this was proven false. Everything points at it being an additional CoA technique. The same way CoO has 2 aspects - predicting the near future and detecting life in the area around you, CoA could be used in 2 ways - 1 for hitting Logia and another for hardening the body(:ninja:).
In conclusion, I am right.
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I voice my facts as facts and my opinions as opinions. Remember when CC was introduced and some people argued if he was a Logia, even though it was beyond obvious? It's the same thing. A popular theory was that it is a way of showing CoA, however this was proven false. Everything points at it being an additional CoA technique. The same way CoO has 2 aspects - predicting the near future and detecting life in the area around you, CoA could be used in 2 ways - 1 for hitting Logia and another for hardening the body(:ninja:).
In conclusion, I am right.
It wasn't proven false though. Luffy is shown using the hardening effect when punching CC, isn't that more evidence for the blackening being CoA than against it? There are two options here, either Luffy was hardening his fist with one way of using CoA (turning his fist black) and also using CoA to hit CC (not turning his fist black). Or Luffy used CoA to hit CC (turning his fist black). I don't see how either can be determined from that panel.
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Sweet chapter. Brownbeard's bit was touching and I loved Ceasar's speech and how Luffy just went "Taking on warlords and Yonkou? Already done that bitch!". I gotta admit tough that SAD was a little letdown. It's supposed to move the whole world and all it makes is a bunch of man-critters? Seriusly, zoan powers aren't really worth shit in front of logia and paramecia ones, even if you got an army of them.
I don't know about Bepo and Pekoms being SMILE users. It's possible but Bepo likes female bears and Pekoms can turn into turtle, so I'm quite positive that they are Minkmen or something else for now.
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Good to see Brownbeard around, and this is one of the rare cases where Luffy's simplicity is actually refreshing. So while the chapter was good, for every week that passes I'm more or more bothered about Franky's absence. In Fishman Island, he was absent all the time except for the climax (I know he met up with Den, but Den himself was so insignificant that it doesn't really matter…), and now, he is absent all the time DURING the climax. Poor guy's not getting the attention he deserves, and I actually miss the time he had more depth than being a robot.
I'm willing to bet he's just preparing to make a grand and crew-saving entrance. Such as blowing a hole in the side of the building with his laser to rescue everyone from the still-approaching gas.
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I voice my facts as facts and my opinions as opinions. Remember when CC was introduced and some people argued if he was a Logia, even though it was beyond obvious? It's the same thing. A popular theory was that it is a way of showing CoA, however this was proven false. Everything points at it being an additional CoA technique. The same way CoO has 2 aspects - predicting the near future and detecting life in the area around you, CoA could be used in 2 ways - 1 for hitting Logia and another for hardening the body(:ninja:).
Except in that scene Luffy's fist is black.
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It wasn't proven false though. Luffy is shown using the hardening effect when punching CC, isn't that more evidence for the blackening being CoA than against it? There are two options here, either Luffy was hardening his fist with one way of using CoA (turning his fist black) and also using CoA to hit CC (not turning his fist black). Or Luffy used CoA to hit CC (turning his fist black). I don't see how either can be determined from that panel.
I don't fully understand what you try to say, but the idea is very simple.
Hardening is another way of using CoA to add more force to the punch or kick.
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Except in that scene Luffy's fist is black.
Except that uoi said nothing of value.
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You guys are missing the BIG thing here, CC told his subordinates to connect all the video to that R 1st level floor so this means all the BROKERS will watch as Luffy beats the shit outta CC and Kidnap him, they may also see everyone coming to R room and escaping.
DAMN the New World will see a little bit of Luffys strength.
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Dunno if anyone has noticed but Caribou is on Kaidou's favorite island.
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I knew they looked similar but I wasn't sure, thanks for the post. Makes things VERY interesting.
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I don't fully understand what you try to say, but the idea is very simple.
Hardening is another way of using CoA to add more force to the punch or kick.
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Except that uoi said nothing of value.
Look essentially what you're saying is: Luffy has to be using a different form of CoA at the same time as the other form of CoA because his fists only harden when he uses CoA(different form) not when he uses CoA(first form). You don't really have any evidence of that. If you can show me a scene since the blackening effect has been introduced when Luffy hits a logia without the blackening applied, then I'll be all for believing your theory. So far, you opinion is just that, an opinion.
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Luffy's arm didn't turn black, therefore it is not a visual cue but actually a form of CoA.
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Its so funny that I never really connected the SAD and Smile processes together until now lol. SAD is the substance, Smile is the devil fruit.
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Look essentially what you're saying is: Luffy has to be using a different form of CoA at the same time as the other form of CoA because his fists only harden when he uses CoA(different form) not when he uses CoA(first form). You don't really have any evidence of that. If you can show me a scene since the blackening effect has been introduced when Luffy hits a logia without the blackening applied, then I'll be all for believing your theory. So far, you opinion is just that, an opinion.
@Sir:
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Luffy's arm didn't turn black, therefore it is not a visual cue but actually a form of CoA.
As much as it pains me to agree with Strelok (dude, you need to stop stating everything you have to say is fact, some times you're right, sure..but, you sound like an ass everytime)..I think he's correct.
I've pointed this out several times. especially since Vergo was introduced. When Luffy uses the hardening it is ONLY applied directly to the skin, it does NOT show over clothing/gloves. So, Mr. Derp, your example is moot.
Also, there's really only been on example so far this arc where Luffy has punched/tried to hit a logia without the hardening and Monet interfered with that with her igloo wall. I don't have a picture but his gatling gun wasn't hardened.[hide]Oh, not to brag (because it's lame and everyone gets some theories right sometiems)..but, Brownbeard trying to take on Caesar and being saved by Luffy - called it.
Caesar actually making the ADF that Momo ate/The SAD being used to make an army for Doflamingo - called it.[/hide]Anyway..Awesome chapter, worth the wait..and X-Drake soon? I sure hope so.
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So, it seems we will get to see more of Kaidos crew soon, or X Drake, who is most likely part of it anyway.
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! Wow, Oda really payed attention to the tree, 1:1 copy!Holy crap, nice catch. I totally missed that it's the same island (yes, I glossed over the text)
As for seeing Kaidou's crew or Drake…..I dunno, Oda already has his hands full showing what's going on with Big Mam, Doflamingo, Law, etc, I can't say I would like that too much. Don't get me wrong, seeing all these things happen without the Straw Hats knowing is what makes it dramatic-
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Look essentially what you're saying is: Luffy has to be using a different form of CoA at the same time as the other form of CoA because his fists only harden when he uses CoA(different form) not when he uses CoA(first form). You don't really have any evidence of that. If you can show me a scene since the blackening effect has been introduced when Luffy hits a logia without the blackening applied, then I'll be all for believing your theory. So far, you opinion is just that, an opinion.
How about here? Stop calling the fact an opinion.
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A popular (and wrong) theory was that hardening was simply used to show use of CoA to the readers. I mentioned that this chapter proves this theory (which made no sense btw) wrong. Is it so hard to understand that?
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@Sir:
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Luffy's arm didn't turn black, therefore it is not a visual cue but actually a form of CoA.
I was gonna post that, but his gloves here are black.
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Hmm, this seemed like a good chapter. But I couldn't really get into it that well, and that's probably because I'm sick. Who knows, I might not even agree with myself on a couple things come tomorrow. Oh well.
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Well, Caribou made it to some new island. I really feel for poor Coribou. That guy seems to get screwed at every turn. I like how this cover story seems to just go random directions constantly.
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Brownbeard's definitely one of those characters that doesn't have any quit in him. He seems destined to join Law's crew to me, for some reason. His relentlessness seems a little inspiring, but I think the thing that sticks out most to me is the situation of his subordinates being stuck in the killer gas. Him and G-5 are like Oda's excuse to save the guys who got caught I'm guessing. There's a little strangeness with the guys who got their coats stolen having two separate fates, though. One (or a couple) return to Caesar to get used as fodder in a poison gas experiment and blown up. Another group runs into Zoro/Sanji/Kinemon while running away from Smiley, and their fate gets revealed in this chapter. There were only 4 coats that got stolen. Oh well.
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Caesar is the same as ever. Brags about himself being hideously evil constantly while hitting a very wide array of facial expressions. I suppose he wound up being a pretty fun villain, given the fact that he was doomed to be a minor one from the beginning.
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Luffy touching Brownbeard's forehead seemed weird to me. I suppose it's some measure of acknowledgement, but it still just looks awkward.
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I find it hilarious that G-5 is all saluting Sanji. Looks like the kids are all under control now. They should be able to move themselves to escape the gas since Mocha returned to normal after her sedative injection earlier. They look conscious and coherent already. It also looks like Chopper's treatment of Mocha is well underway. The syringe and the blood infusion bags are one thing, but the barrel for Mocha to puke blood into does the most to drive the seriousness of the situation home to me. With the gas closing in, these are necessary panels for this chapter. I'm glad they were included.
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Smile is definitely the big revelation of the chapter (and yeah, age of Smiles makes a lot more sense now). The first thing I notice is that the design is the same as the fruit that Momo ate (with different shading, but I'm not sure that matters). The most likely explanation is that Momo ate a Smile fruit, and that the peons who commented about it being a failed Vegapunk experiment were simply misinformed. Let's face it, they don't get the truth about anything. It also helps to explain why Momo had a hallucination of Dofla. The whole Vegapunk connection with Momo may have been a red herring after all. I think the thing that surprises me the most is that Smiley's fruit was a real DF, rather than a Smile fruit. I'm not totally sure, but that might mean that the Smile fruits can't be infused into objects like normal DF's can.
It also raises questions about the powers and limitations of these Smile fruits. It's said that they only cover zoan fruits, and it appears like it might be a permanent change, as opposed to having multiple forms to switch between. I tend to think that way because Momo hasn't figured it out, or even transformed by accident. That would certainly explain characters like Bepo, and potentially even Pekoms's main form. There's also the question of whether or not they can be eaten in conjunction with a normal DF. I'm leaning towards yes, because that explains the Pekoms situation by him having a lion Smile fruit, and a normal turtle zoan DF as well. Lastly there's the question about if the sea is still a weakness for them or not. I could go either way on that one, but if I had to guess I'd say that it still is because the base ingredient (SAD) is created by a normal DF power, like zombies being weak to salt kind of.
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I assume the emperor in question is Big Mom, because she's the literary focus at this point. Oda needs to get a lot of mileage out of the 4 emperors, since only 3 can ever be real enemies, so throwing another one into this mix this early doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It also gives us a connection to how Dofla can begin to fit into this whole saga as it relates to fighting Big Mom, without it simply being two separate and relatively unrelated events.
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What I really wonder is just what Law's goal is with the SAD. Dofla said himself that the operation could be crippled and chaos would ensue simply by destroying the SAD production room and killing Caesar. That still wouldn't change the fact that said emperor's crew already ate a ton of them. And Law wants the guy alive, and he didn't seem like he tracked down the SAD room just to destroy it. Does he want the Smile fruits for himself in order to mutate his own crew? Maybe he's pursuing some method to neutralize Smile fruit users? He also set a time limit in which he was going to make the island very unsafe. I fail to see through that one yet, either. It seems like we're still missing a crucial piece of information. I suppose we'll get it when Law fills us all in at the end of the arc, but I'm hoping there are enough clues to make use of before that.
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Luffy's punch is pretty satisfying. It feels like a 1-hit KO, but that concept seems somewhat cheapened by all the earlier hits. I don't really know if it was enough to put Caesar down for the count by itself, but at the very least it should have really hurt the guy. I guess the way I see it, Luffy's so pissed off at the guy right now that it might as well be over. I suppose a couple extra shots could be satisfying, though. The other option is Caesar running away, but I'd hope that Luffy's mantra turns that into a futile effort. Really the only reason I could see for Caesar being able to hang on for any length of time after this is for Oda to address the shinokuni situation.
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As much as it pains me to agree with Strelok (dude, you need to stop stating everything you have to say is fact, some times you're right, sure..but, you sound like an ass everytime)..I think he's correct
I post my facts as facts and my opinion as an opinion.
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I post my facts as facts and my opinion as an opinion.
No. You don't. You post your opinions as facts and your facts as Sabo. :happy:
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Zoans underlings sure taste better :ninja:
Oh god, now I want this to be the reason. So bad.
LOL that puts a new spin on one of the Strawhats (Sanj's) old joke concerning a zoan (Chopper) joining the crew=
the zoans serve as emergency food supplyTamago & Bobbin seems not to have a zoan,
I've always thought the girl, "Lady Three Eyes", had 3 eyes due to a paramecia DF since we've not seen a race that has 3 eyes. It seems the upper tier of Big Mom's crew seems not to be zoans, except for Pekoms.@Miss:
They look nothing alike. Nothing.
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Oh.. Well, then. They are the same place. What do ya know.
I am seriously thinking that both posts of yours are sacrasm. It seems some people just don't know you well enough yet, your posts often hold a heavy dose of sarcasm esp if its a responce to someone saying something obvious.
When a group of poeple look out a door when its raining heavy, and one person states the obvoius "It's raining". You strike me as the the one to respond with "No, its totally dry out there."
At first many of your posts struck me wrong until I noticed its sarcasm, now I often smile :happy: …. that is unless I totally misunderstood you:blink:
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Yeah I was pretty sure that would be picked up but in my defense look at Smoker's arm. It clearly covers his clothes.
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What website has the missing pages, I can't find the page where Caesar talks about creating Smile?
Found it. So now shit makes sense, kinda. The DF in CC's flashback/memory was the same as Vegapunks so does that mean they also have the same side effect as Momo's. Shows how much of a BOSS Oda is bringing up Smiles so subtley on SA. Love One Piece.
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I voice my facts as facts and my opinions as opinions. Remember when CC was introduced and some people argued if he was a Logia, even though it was beyond obvious? It's the same thing. A popular theory was that it is a way of showing CoA, however this was proven false. Everything points at it being an additional CoA technique. The same way CoO has 2 aspects - predicting the near future and detecting life in the area around you, CoA could be used in 2 ways - 1 for hitting Logia and another for hardening the body(:ninja:).
In conclusion, I am right.
CoO doesn't have two aspects. It's the ability to sense others. On the small scale you can sense movements. On a large scale you can sense other being. But it's still the ability to sense other beings. Nowhere has it been stated that it gives you the ability to predict the near future.
As for your CoA thing i don't know what you're trying to prove. CoA is the ability to create an armor of haki around you. It can be invisible, or a visible barrier, or more recently this black stuff. But it's properties don't change no matter what form it's in. It's a barrier that can be used offensively or defensively that can touch a DF users real body. That's what Rayleigh said so there's no reason to try and break that down into two separate techniques. Since those are the properties of CoA whether it's in the form of a Admiral Barrier, a sentomaru reflection or this black armor it will always be able to hit a DF users body.
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Black Armor = Hardened object + ability to hit Logia
Non-Black armor = still tougher than normal + ability to hit Logia
Barrier = Ability to block LogiaYou have the things like that Kuja arrows that were definitely hardened objects (snakes) but didnt have the black coloring to them which could mean 1. Even there are different degrees of hardening, some visible, some invisible, but BOTH still hardening using Haki. 2. It's simply a stylistic change by oda to show when someone is using armor haki more clearly.
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How about here? Stop calling the fact an opinion.
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A popular (and wrong) theory was that hardening was simply used to show use of CoA to the readers. I mentioned that this chapter proves this theory (which made no sense btw) wrong. Is it so hard to understand that?
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Yeah I was pretty sure that would be picked up but in my defense look at Smoker's arm. It clearly covers his clothes.
I didn't bother to mention Smoker and Vergo because Luffy's hardening technique has never been shown to harden anything but his skin, even when wearing gloves/a coat.
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I've pointed this out several times. especially since Vergo was introduced. When Luffy uses the hardening it is ONLY applied directly to the skin, it does NOT show over clothing/gloves. So, Mr. Derp, your example is moot.
that would be the case if there weren't examples of other people using the hardening, where the clothes do change color(smoker, vergo). I don't think lufy's hardening is anything different from the other hardenings, so this would mean that it would also happen with luffy.
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The picture you posted had Luffy hitting Caesar with a black fist and this shows him failing to hurt him with a normal fist.
You have shown nothing to debunk the theory.Actually, if you took the time to look at the next page, Caesar has a bloody nose - in gas form, saying "Ahh, shit! that hurts!"
Non hardening CoA - hurts him.
Hardening CoA basically knocks him out - as shown everytime Luffy lands a direct hit with it.
@steven:that would be the case if there weren't examples of other people using the hardening, where the clothes do change color(smoker, vergo). I don't think lufy's hardening is anything different from the other hardenings, so this would mean that it would also happen with luffy.
I'm not gonna argue, but the examples are there if you go back and look.
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The picture you posted had Luffy hitting Caesar with a black fist and this shows him failing to hurt him with a normal fist.
You have shown nothing to debunk the theory.First of all, what the fuck are you saying? This entire conversation has nothing to do with what I said originally.
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How about here? Stop calling the fact an opinion.
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A popular (and wrong) theory was that hardening was simply used to show use of CoA to the readers. I mentioned that this chapter proves this theory (which made no sense btw) wrong. Is it so hard to understand that?
Alright see, backing up your opinion with evidence makes it more credible. I'm more inclined to take you side, especially since it has implications that there's a second form of Haoshoku. I'm still kinda torn between the two, since there would be no reason to ever not use both, just for safety and added damage.
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My prediction that SAD = Synthesized Artificial Devilfruit was close enough, I guess. =P
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I made the mistake of trying to read it in college again.
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there would be no reason to ever not use both, just for safety and added damage.
You could say the same about CoO. Maybe it is very physically demanding and/or it requires focus?
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I didn't bother to mention Smoker and Vergo because Luffy's hardening technique has never been shown to harden anything but his skin, even when wearing gloves/a coat.
Eh I guess we'll see how it turns out in time.
Back on track, I wonder why Doflamingo's factory is needed to turn the SAD into synthetic devil fruits. I mean Ceaser by himself must know how to do it himself unless it actually implies that Doflamingo has some mysterious shit going on. I think that we still can't rule out Momo's fruit being one of Vegapunk's experiments though.
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Several people have mentioned that they think Bepo and Pekoms are results of the Smile fruits.
We don't know enough of Pekoms, so I'll say its possible. But what we do know of Bebo's personality shoots that thoery out of the water. Bebo likes female bears, just like Chopper likes female reindeer, so I think Bebo is a real polar bear, not a man that ate a polar bear fruit. Aslo remember Pappug, we know he didn't eat a Smile, he's just a starfish that learned how to talk & talk like a 'real person' so its possible for other animals to do so as well.I still hold to my old theory that Bebo could be a member of the unknown race called Minkmen. I think the Minkmen are a race of part-'human'/part animal, just like Merfolk & Fishmen are part-'human'/part-fish. Just like the Mer/fish folks have different 'types' (Hammerhead, Octopus, Goldfish, Squid, catfish, ect,) the Minkmen have different types (polar bear, lion ect)
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First of all, what the fuck are you saying? This entire conversation has nothing to do with what I said originally.
It was my understanding that the theory that you "busted", which you were referring to in that post, was that blackness signified haki, and I was simply saying that I was not convinced with your explanation and offered my thoughts on the subject.
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You could say the same about CoO. Maybe it is very physically demanding and/or it requires focus?
Possibly, CoO is so much harder to tell when it's happening that I don't think we could know if an when a person is using both. Anyway back to the chapter discussion.
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@nodensuke:
No. You don't. You post your opinions as facts and your facts as Sabo. :happy:
When you are as great as I am, it's hard to be humble. :ninja:
It was my understanding that the theory that you "busted", which you were referring to in that post, was that blackness signified haki, and I was simply saying that I was not convinced with your explanation and offered my thoughts on the subject.
Now that you are up to speed would just like to reiterate that I still am unconvinced on the matter and if you have anymore evidence I would be glad to see it.The theory which I busted is that Oda invented the blackness to show haki (and it has no other use). I proved this wrong by posting evidence (this theory was pretty stupid to begin with). It's up to you to decide if you want to believe the manga or not.
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The theory which I busted is that Oda invented the blackness to show haki (and it has no other use). I proved this wrong by posting evidence (this theory was pretty stupid to begin with). It's up to you to decide if you want to believe the manga or not.
So that panel is your only evidence? Since you talk like you are Oda and you think you know everything I assumed you had more than just that.
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When you are as great as I am, it's hard to be humble. :ninja:
The theory which I busted is that Oda invented the blackness to show haki (and it has no other use). I proved this wrong by posting evidence (this theory was pretty stupid to begin with). It's up to you to decide if you want to believe the manga or not.
Really the first page you posted wasn't sufficient to prove anything. It just showed Luffy hitting CC with the blackened effect. Which implies that it is in fact showing CoA haki with no other use. It was really the later stuff that convinced me it was a possibility. Maybe you should make a post summing up your thoughts and evidence.
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I think that the person that eats a Smile will be stuck in a hybrid zoan form, the fruit Momo ate was failed because Momo is stucked in a full animal form.
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So that panel is your only evidence? Since you talk like you are Oda and you think you know everything I assumed you had more than just that.
I talk like a fan. Just because I noticed something that Oda decided to show, doesn't mean I am him. I actually knew this theory was wrong, but some people still argued.
Btw your nagging is pathetic.
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Really the first page you posted wasn't sufficient to prove anything. It just showed Luffy hitting CC with the blackened effect. Which implies that it is in fact showing CoA haki with no other use. It was really the later stuff that convinced me it was a possibility. Maybe you should make a post summing up your thoughts and evidence.
It DID prove it. If it was just a visual effect to show haki, blackening wouldn't be needed in this panel (since hitting Logia shows haki already) => therefore it is not just a visual effect. It's like we are talking in different languages or something.