This is probably a silly question… but is it even remotely possible that Bartolomeo wants Luffy to have the Mera Mera no mi?
Chapter 709: King Punch
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there you have it.
errr… the "that" in my quote was "the possibility that Bartolomeo has a soft, gooey, center and isn't a horrible monster."
I don't for a second think that he wants to give the fruit to Luffy.
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Luffy not liking Barto disappoints me :(
It's natural. He's a complete jerk :C , he should burn in hell.
But really, I hope he gets his ass kicked by Luffy. That would please me a lot
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@CCC:
And I didn't say with authority "this is an important hint." I merely suggested the possibility, based on the otherwise lack of importance for that single panel (Bellamy bypasses Barto's defense-> Bellamy gets destroyed before making use of that weakness).
Well it surely shows a weakness in barto's power, like the water for crocodile, fisical contact will be the key to beat barto… Of course IF there will be a showdown between him and luffy, because I'm not sure about that.
I think the tournament will be interrupted, it's just a feeling hehe
Besides barto could turn out to be a powerful ally for the mugiwara, he seems like a good guy, scary of course but also kind hearted. -
Bartolomeooooo <3
Damn this guy is amazing.Hope he will be even cooler and becomes luffy's friend.Or even ally himself to the strawhats like law did temporary.(Btw i want to see some law/ussop and the rest as well).
And dont forget something was on the sunny.
Anyway , way to go Oda-Sensei.
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Tell me everything about the country, Dressrosa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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I assume new nakama thread is full of Barto right now
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Of course IF there will be a showdown between him and luffy, because I'm not sure about that.
True enough. If the tournament is set up the way we think it is (ABCD winners face DD family, then A/DD winner vs. B/DD winner and C/DD vs. D/DD, then A/B/DD vs. C/D/DD, then that winner vs. Diamante) then that would require not only the tournament going until the semifinals, but also Barto beating Jesus O_O
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@CCC:
errr… the "that" in my quote was "the possibility that Bartolomeo has a soft, gooey, center and isn't a horrible monster."
I don't for a second think that he wants to give the fruit to Luffy.
mixed things up. sorry there.
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looking at the last panel of page 16..
is that water?and is that bellamy?as in "bellamy is floating"?WTH? -
…...wow. What an intense chapter.
The B Block seriously heats up as everyone continues to attack each other....no, not Ricky!
Bellamy's injured, Barty's injured.....holy shit Elizabello's about to use his move!.....no, NOT DAGAMA!
And the King Punch did not disappoint. Seriously! That spread....kudos to everyone that said it would destroy part of the arena....oh wait. Wait. Waitwaitwaitwaitwait!
Bellamy lost?! No! Not here! I was actually rooting for the guy! And apparently, so was Luffy! That scene I liked…..maybe the two of them will ally this arc? Or at the very least, Luffy will learn about Doflamingo's influence through Bellamy himself. Just a feeling I've had since his re-introduction.
....lol at Barty trolling again and winning. Least we got the name of his DF.
But the last page leads me to believe a couple of things. First, B Block has officially ended, so Oda can go back to the other subplots, the factory destruction included. Second, something's gonna happen that will lead to the complete dissociation of the tournament.......does the toy soldier really have the answers we seek? Even so, there's no way Oda would spoil the surprise so soon. He'll probably tell Franky off-panel, then we'll learn for ourselves later.
Am a tad disappointed in Bellamy losing, though.
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looking at the last panel of page 16..
is that water?and is that bellamy?as in "bellamy is floating"?WTH?http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Kuuigosu
Pretty clever how he's basically got that potential error covered no matter what at this point.
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Forget it, I'm idiot anyway. :) Thanks for hints, now I know reasons why I failed and how to improve.
I don't think that ^^
Everyone can have his own perception/feeling about One Piece, i didn't say that i know the truth (it's far too presumptuous.)
And if i replied it wasn't to show you your "error" (since it wasn't an error), it's just that i felt like you overdid, that's all. -
I am just going to throw this out there:
Maybe Barto is working for the other yonkou that everyone keeps forgetting, Shanks
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@Devil:
Uhhhhh…...... What? I see nothing of the sort.
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Oh ok, you meant page 16 of mangapanda, and the final panel of the right side.
Yeah, it looks like it. I guess that was just the instant he was thrown to the water, if he stays a bit longer he'll drown
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So he misteriously landed on a piece of Kuuigosu, huh? Now that's a magical wood!
I can't wait to see Oda making a comment on it on SBS.
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Meh, sorry for my lack in social skills. From your point of view I'm probably an idiot anyway, so lets leave it at that.
I jus have a different way of thinking and it seems that it's hard to translate my logic into something what others can understand.
From my point of view your way of thinking is a shallow to assume that there is any chance for a character like Luffy to ever become pirate king if he can't improve on his own. If he's on road to become one of the strongest OP characters then he gotta be at least genius at fighting to be able to archieve that. That's why saying stuff like "seeing how Bellamy grabs Bartolomeo during a fight is a important hint" sounds quite naive from my point of view, especially since he have displayed far more impressive feats during numerous fights before.Wait, are you arguing that Luffy(if he does fight against Barto) shouldn't utilize what is basically his weakness? Isn't that like saying that if Luffy had seen someone else fight with crocodile and used water then Luffy shouldn't use water. What Bellamy did had nothing to do with technique, it was a character exploiting a potential weakness thanks to his fruit ability and the main protagonist is now aware of that weakness.
HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?
ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.
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I'm beyond entertained that Bellamy was defeated by a single punch from an opponent – AGAIN.
(but I did love that Luffy cheered for him)
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Wait, are you arguing that Luffy(if he does fight against Barto) shouldn't utilize what is basically his weakness? Isn't that like saying that if Luffy had seen someone else fight with crocodile and used water then Luffy shouldn't use water. What Bellamy did had nothing to do with technique, it was a character exploiting a potential weakness thanks to his fruit ability and the main protagonist is now aware of that weakness.
That's what I meant, I just have trouble to find a way to put it in understandable logic. Fighter at Luffys calibre should be more than capable at finding weakness in abilities of opponent during heat of battle, without having a need to get hints before battle.
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Also, the name of the giant warrior in Lucy's block sounds celtic/nordic:"Hajrudin", it ends the same way as "Odin". And with the viking theme on Elbaf chars yet, the chance is high that Hajrudin is from Elbaf and might join forces with Lucy.
Hajrudin is a name of arabian descent. It means: someone who is good, does good things and is "good at religion". In this form it is most common in ExYugoslavia countries, mostly in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It is a muslim name.
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Bellamy was gripping Barto in this chapter , why was only Bellamy knocked out while Barto put up a square barrier ? lol
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That's what I meant, I just have trouble to find a way to put it in understandable logic. Fighter at Luffys calibre should be more than capable at finding weakness in abilities of opponent during heat of battle, without having a need to get hints before battle.
Ah, but from what I can tell that's what CCC was trying to say, only instead of Luffy having to figure it out on his own(wasting time) Bellamy did and Luffy utilizing that weakness in a similar manner would be a sort of homage to Bellamy.
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@Kai:
Bellamy was gripping Barto in this chapter , why was only Bellamy knocked out while Barto put up a square barrier ? lol
My guess is, the barrier only protects against direct force coming towards barto, sort of like throwing your arm out to protect yourself from a projectile
HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?
ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.
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Fighter at Luffys calibre should be more than capable at finding weakness in abilities of opponent during heat of battle, without having a need to get hints before battle.
You're still making a logical fallacy. "Luffy will absolutely not, never ever, use a good "hint" from Bellamy to defeat someone" does not follow from "Luffy is capable of finding ways to do things on his own, without others." There's no reason to obstinately not utilize good intel when he's already seen it. If there's one thing Luffy DOESN'T have, it's a weird sense of pride that you seem to be implying (or if not that, then you just don't want Luffy to learn from others because that makes him not as good/cool?).
But this is all probably moot anyway because of the aligning of the stars that would be needed to even get Luffy in a fight against Barto. -
I don't think pRopaaNS is saying it would be wrong on Luffy's part using something he saw someone doing before and worked. But that it would be wrong on Oda's part to make a scene where someone else has to find out the weakness of the enemy so Luffy can replicate it, instead of finding it out for himself - because Luffy should be depicted as a genius who doesn't need people to conveniently show him how to get things done.
Although I can't say I agree, I wouldn't be surprised if Luffy uses a grip move because he saw Bellamy doing so and it fails miserably (we just started seeing how barriers are used, don't think "block direct attacks" is the limit of Bartolomeo abilities), so he has to find something else on his own.
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Ah, but from what I can tell that's what CCC was trying to say, only instead of Luffy having to figure it out on his own(wasting time) Bellamy did and Luffy utilizing that weakness in a similar manner would be a sort of homage to Bellamy.
But Luffy is a rubber man, so having his attack deflected back to him won't hurth him much enough, so imo due to nature of Bartolomeos ability their fight would be more interesting if there weren't any hints given to Luffy before battle.
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@CCC:
errr… the "that" in my quote was "the possibility that Bartolomeo has a soft, gooey, center and isn't a horrible monster."
I don't for a second think that he wants to give the fruit to Luffy.
When I think of it, "that" person could be the officer Dofla talked to right after the war. From what I took of their chat back then, it seemed to me that this officer wanted either Moria dead or his kage kage no mi. Now what if this officer has more connections to pirates than just Doffy? He and Doffy hadn't a good relation in the end and maybe this officer started to contact rookies after the worst gen to fill Doffy's "gap" if Doffy would really turn his back on him (that would include Caribou AND Barto).
If Barto AND Caribou are talking of the very same person, neither Kaidou or Doffy are reasonable candidates right now (Caribou is on one of Kaidou's fav islands and Doffy already HAD the mera mera no mi). -
lol so much for the strong people in group B.
Looks like Ricky is the old legendary man but old age has caught up with him, and it seems DD is the one who gave him the injury (or one hit). One has to wonder that DD is making people forget their memories, this is King's haki? Or some other method? Bellamy also hyped up for no reason, didn't really think he would do much to Barto. It would be awesome if Barto works for Kid, I hope he doesn't work for any Yonkos.Looks no one in the group was really too strong other than Bartotroll, as it looked like right from the beginning. I have to say this is probably the best arena chapter, because the fights were continuing and not ending before they even start. The fact we got some information from another storyline was also great. Now where is the poster that was telling me the King's Punch could actually KO a Yonko? I have doubts Garp's old foe is really that strong now, despite it being different a while back. I still think only Cavendish, Luffy, Barto are the strong characters with Rebecca with a "maybe" on being pretty strong as well. I am assuming Luffy will get to talk to Rebecca and the old man will show up, connections between the two, and Luffy ends up helping them once he finds out about the villain of this story and what he did specifically to the first friends he makes, it really seems to be a repeated pattern now that someone has mentioned it on youtube. :S Such a shame, I think it would be a nice twist to have Law beat DD. :sad:
Overall very good chapter!
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I didn't wanted Ricky-o lose so fast.:sad:
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First up, Congragulations to those who predicted Bartolomeo's victory. I should have known he ate the Bari Bari no Mi. However, I wonder who he wants the fruit for?
But Damn, that Kings Punch was powerful; you know someting is up when Luffy comments on a punch. -
what if the person barto wants to give the fruit is the mighty captainnnnnnn Buggy :P
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Hajrudin is a name of arabian descent. It means: someone who is good, does good things and is "good at religion". In this form it is most common in ExYugoslavia countries, mostly in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It is a muslim name.
it dosent look Arabian, unless it was 2 words in arabic.
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or maybe a former whitebeard pirate like marco.that's what i think
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it dosent look Arabian, unless it was 2 words in arabic.
It is not arabian, it is of arabian descent. Read carefully. Of course the name will be different from the original version ( the version it originated from ). I mean people on the balkans are slavic. There are names that are pretty much similiar but spelled differently cause one is from arabia, other turkey, third from some slavic country. ( whereas turks and people from balkan took the name from the arabians )
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I just wrote HajruDIN ends the same way as O-DIN (Odin, god of the celtics and vikings, like a "Zeus" for vikings). Abdullah/Jeet looked "more Arabic" than Hajrudin does just judging by their clothes.
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ハイルディン (Hajrudin) it's not arabian name
maybe Serb or Bosna
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I just wrote HajruDIN ends the same way as O-DIN (Odin, god of the celtics and vikings, like a "Zeus" for vikings). Abdullah/Jeet looked "more Arabic" than Hajrudin does just judging by their clothes.
Yeah i know. Im just giving out intel.
ハイルディン (Hajrudin) it's not arabian name
maybe Serb or Bosna
It is not arabian, it is of arabian descent. Read carefully. Of course the name will be different from the original version ( the version it originated from ). I mean people on the balkans are slavic. There are names that are pretty much similiar but spelled differently cause one is from arabia, other turkey, third from some slavic country. ( whereas turks and people from balkan took the name from the arabians )
I'm bosnian. Some people really are hard to talk with. arabian =/= arabian descent. Just like arabs say Ahmad, the bosnian version ( and turkish aswel i think ) is Ahmed.
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Now where is the poster that was telling me the King's Punch could actually KO a Yonko?
I don't think you refer to me, but whatever. What Dagama said was based in the case the Yonkou wasn't protected, I guess. I don't know if it could actually make such a feat, but the punch was strong for sure, I mean, it KO'd Blue Gilly and Bellamy, and if it wasn't for stupid Barto's stupid barrier the Colosseum would be half destroyed.
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@Devil:
I don't think you refer to me, but whatever. What Dagama said was based in the case the Yonkou wasn't protected, I guess. I don't know if it could actually make such a feat, but the punch was strong for sure, I mean, it KO'd Blue Gilly and Bellamy, and if it wasn't for stupid Barto's stupid barrier the Colosseum would be half destroyed.
I too imagined it would be strong, but we all know is that if you have strong enough haki, you can tank attacks which Yonkos would have. It was obviously an exaggerated feat. It certainly was however, a pretty powerful attack, but not strong enough to 1-hit Yonkos. I don't know if you also said it but the person who did was clearly wrong.
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I'm not arab but my Arabic is excellent and Hajrudin is an arabian name no doubt about it not because I know the name but because I understand what it means lol it's like the name 'Black' you may not know the name black but you understand the meaning of it so you know it's an English name….hajruddin or hajrudin or hajru addin or haju'ddine "هجر الدين" is absolutely arabian.
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I'm not arab but my Arabic is excellent and Hajrudin is an arabian name no doubt about it not because I know the name but because I understand what it means lol it's like the name 'Black' you may not know the name black but you understand the meaning of it so you know it's an English name….hajruddin or hajrudin or hajru addin or haju'ddine "هجر الدين" is absolutely arabian.
it's not arabian name ….
try HAJ UR DIN
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I can see it now, Dofla shunning/hating Bellamy even though he worships him. Dofla does something messed up to Bellamy even though he adores him, and Luffy gets pissed about it. Luffy beats Dofla and then Bellamy respects Luffy.
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I too imagined it would be strong, but we all know is that if you have strong enough haki, you can tank attacks which Yonkos would have. It was obviously an exaggerated feat. It certainly was however, a pretty powerful attack, but not strong enough to 1-hit Yonkos. I don't know if you also said it but the person who did was clearly wrong.
I thought it was as strong as it was shown in this chapter, but yeah, if it was landed on a Yonkou, I don't think it would 1HKO him/her, but it would definitely at least inflict heavy damage ( if it isn't blocked, that is )
I don't know what to say. Is that good or bad?
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How did you get the cover of chapter 711? is it a fanart?
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How did you get the cover of chapter 711? is it a fanart?
I think the answer is obvious.
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Hmm, Barto is getting very interesting, we could already suss out that he had a DF power that was barrier like, we just had this confirmed, but he did several things this chapter that I found interesting. He saved the crowd from the King Punch shockwave, I'm sure he could have made a thinner barrier to protect only himself, but this may have been necessary and just a coincidence, however he's only really been insulting the crowd and making them dislike him with his antics, and he hasn't displayed the ruthlessness of a villain, Bellamy has looked way more ruthless. Also, we're probably all interested to know exactly who Barto wants to receive the mera mera no mi. Any guesses now are just assumptions because he hasn't given up any specific affiliation thus far, except to this unknown person. I'm sure Sabo will get some mentions here, I can actually see him getting along with Barto.
King Punch lived up to it's reputation, it knocked out most of the remaining competitors at once and would have injured the crowd too. I'm glad Dagama got ejected in that fashion, complete trash.
Uhh… Ricky? Anyway I'm sure he'll get some focus later on after his motives were hinted at.
Blue Gilly turned out to be pretty decent, would have liked to see a fight between him and Hack.
Bellamy was never going to win anyway, his DF power hasn't been shown to be all that impressive, atleast through his feats (someone like luffy may be able to use it in more creative and effective ways), and i don't imagine his Haki is all that impressive compared to any of the SH's. That's assuming he's even slightly proficient in Haki use.
I hope the rescuing of everyone in the factory and it's destruction doesn't at all feel like punk hazard...
On to block C though
