Mangastream is the only scanlator that has it and they have been giving priority to other titles.
In the meantime you can always check the korean raw.
Food Wars - It's In the Trash
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Food Wars is good at what it does.
It's just what it does is so fucking boilerplate and by the book that it feels bad.
This was the same shit Fairy Tail suffered for. They never tried to go beyond their comfort zone and was M.A.R.R.I.E.D to that status quo. Food Wars seems content with being a by the numbers shonen cooking manga and nothing else.
That's great if that's what your looking for, but I want more in the things I read.
It's great because its adherence to the status quo basically guarantees that stuff that people laud the series for basically doesn't exist then. No such thing as character growth and actual sense of achievement, which, well, is a pretty good summary of how the series has been going.
It's like watching something that is universally seen as trash. Like the Room. There's entertainment in watching something super bad. And then there's people that genuinely love the Jurassic Park even though there's a ton of stuff wrong in the writing and they consider it top notch. Despite the problems.
Both examples could basically be applied to Soma given the context :^)
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Of course Takumi is chasing an underworld mafia chef on a boat chase. It's a Cooking Manga after all.
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Erina working out for the upcoming Autumn Election. She has to show off dat body.
Also, I got Nene right, but Eizan was unexpected.
3DS FC: 0087 - 2971 - 9910
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! Jouichiro Yukihira, formerly known as Jouichiro Saiba,
! has another son who goes by the name of Asahi Saiba. He is Soma's long lost relative and the man behind the midnight chefs.
! Never would have thought the reason Jou changed his name would be far more complex, rather than just honoring his late wife as I presumed.I'm having AoT vibes right now.
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! Well, that came out of nowhere. According to the spoilers this new longlost brother beat Jouichiro in a Shokugeki 5-0.
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Oh god these spoilers lol
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Just remember to not act rash. One thread going full shit is plenty enough.
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Fuck it. I wanna be the first to do this reference.
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! I like Shokugeki no soma, but this is the worst shit he's ever written. Cancel this series
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! I did not beat him, Soma, it's not true! It's Bullshit! I did not challenge him to a shokugeki. I did naaaaaht. Oh hi Mark
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3DS FC: 0087 - 2971 - 9910
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! you got a bro, and he is evil yo, beat your papa in a blow, now coming to your home, and making poisoned sushi yo~
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No need to act rash is right, I've given it thought over the day after reading the spoilers so I can say this with certainty.
! It sucks
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is this series worth reading?
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what I'm catching up on currently: Gintama, lone wolf & cub, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, and lost in poem (by our very own AP member GEPPETTOSMONSTER)
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is this series worth reading?
if you don't invest too much grey matter into it, sure. there are worse ones out there.
but there has to be some better ones as well, yanno? currently its a solid meh that's trending downwards, largely due to the overarching plot.
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It sets up for some decent things at the beginning, some nice arcs, and some pretty fun dish ideas complemented by great character dynamics and really creative representations of people's reactions to food only to set up for the same mistakes of other series by having difficulty balancing its ever growing cast, loses steam with its creativity to dishes and foodgasms, introduces an incredibly bad antagonist with a very tenuous goal set up on a very fragile premise, and struggles to have payoff
But you know, if you set your expectations to just boobs then you can enjoy the series fine. I would say food, too, but the dish that has stood out to me over the past year has been a four cheese pizza
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Unlimited Blade soma was the most memorable foodgasm in a while, but that is still bellow the level of 「Shrimp Ramen」an spice duel monsters.
You can't just turn up the heat randomly with food mafia, after the arc of the food comunist, and before that it was a succession of big exams?
It was a hard sell from the begining, it payed off, but now it's taking dumb choices and it keeps squandering it's good faith.
3DS FC: 0516-7666-3837
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It isn't even the first part of the spoiler that bothers me.
! If we factor in how Jou has been so secretive in regards to his backstory, and the fact he at some point changed his name from Jouichiro Saiba to Jouichiro Yukihira, having another son named after the former isn't out of the realm of possibility and it actually makes things all the more interesting
! What outrages me is that 5-0. Jou is Soma's endgoal, and suddenly a relative of his wins against his dad flawless. This better have some good explanation.3DS FC: 0087 - 2971 - 9910
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It isn't even the first part of the spoiler that bothers me.
! If we factor in how Jou has been so secretive in regards to his backstory, and the fact he at some point changed his name from Jouichiro Saiba to Jouichiro Yukihira, having another son named after the former isn't out of the realm of possibility and it actually makes things all the more interesting
! What outrages me is that 5-0. Jou is Soma's endgoal, and suddenly a relative of his wins against his dad flawless. This better have some good explanation.! Most likely it will be Jouichiro let him won…
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Unlimited Blade soma was the most memorable foodgasm in a while, but that is still bellow the level of 「Shrimp Ramen」an spice duel monsters.
It's kind of a big shame because while he did have a lot of risque reactions, there were some really great foodgasms, the pinnacle of which was of course the shrimp stand battle
Autumn Elections were a lot of fun because of how fun the story got with its reactions but especially with the regiment, the reactions have been incredibly lazy, with the final payoff for the final bout being a mass bestowing. Azami doesn't even have any final words before he walks off to probably become a good guy or something in the next arc after we conveniently ignored the child abuse part of Erina's life. Just reacts with a mass bestowing and fucks off into the sunset
I'm convinced he'll be back with a mustache
But we'll always have the four cheese pizza from that arc at least
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Soma was meant to be a sports manga, but it's authors wanted it to be a school-battle manga.
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At this point it really is just Toriko. The weirdest twists, good art, fun sections. Just riding the waves yo. Chap is out.
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At least he mopped the floor with sojiro NOW, not before like the spoiler said.
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I loved that the team Alice wasn't in the meeting, my headcanon is that they are just calling the police causing the DARK CHEFFS of gambling, unsanitary cooking, unlawful transfer of properties, breaking and entering and breaking the trademark of "shokugeki", with a lawyer.
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Well its out.
There is your final villain.
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Well, Asami was Eirina's in the end. Tsukasa was written out. Joicihiro was "the shanks". It is time for evil surprise Ace.
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Prediction time: This guy is not his son, but more of his apprentice chef who he views as his son.
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Well… The thread's title feels quite apt, that's for sure.
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I've given it some thought, and you know, I think you guys are right. Fictional works shouldn't be judged for any internal consistency given that they're creative worlds devised for the sake of our enjoyment. No one says this writing here is actually good, but it's okay if this is what you go in for. This some really interesting developments, and I think the author is really self aware of this and was intentional as to how classically absurd this whole setup is. Does anyone think that the cliche of a "long lost brother from another mother" is actually good writing when it's the most standard Soap Opera plot twist around? No. Does anyone actually think that Azami's plan that revolved around students that would eventually graduate and were also possibly inferior to other chefs around the world was actually good? No. Does anyone think that 5-0ing the best chef the series has introduced was a good development by turning the guy everyone looks up to into a jobber? No. But this series can still be enjoyed even with lazy writing even when haters may say that it makes no sense for the best chef to get an off screen defeat.
Like "The Room," it's okay for this to be bad because it's just fun and enjoyable to read.
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@Purple:
I've given it some thought, and you know, I think you guys are right. Fictional works shouldn't be judged for any internal consistency given that they're creative worlds devised for the sake of our enjoyment. No one says this writing here is actually good, but it's okay if this is what you go in for. This some really interesting developments, and I think the author is really self aware of this and was intentional as to how classically absurd this whole setup is. Does anyone think that the cliche of a "long lost brother from another mother" is actually good writing when it's the most standard Soap Opera plot twist around? No. Does anyone actually think that Azami's plan that revolved around students that would eventually graduate and were also possibly inferior to other chefs around the world was actually good? No. Does anyone think that 5-0ing the best chef the series has introduced was a good development by turning the guy everyone looks up to into a jobber? No. But this series can still be enjoyed even with lazy writing even when haters may say that it makes no sense for the best chef to get an off screen defeat.
Like "The Room," it's okay for this to be bad because it's just fun and enjoyable to read.
Just keep it simple, if a fictional work aims at being serious, i take it seriously and i am more critical, if a work is just aiming for purposeless fun like SnS is for example, i do not think too much about it.
I fare mostly well with this approach, and there is no useless judging of series that never aimed to be critically appealing.
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I don't like where this is going.
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Yep. No need to judge a series based on how well it actually executes what it's trying to do or whether or not its writing, which is integral to developing the characters you know and love, is actually any good.
After all, this isn't a manga people think is good because it has good character writing and development. As far as everyone here has basically said, it's just what they read every week with no expectation, so even when the characters basically stand in a vacuum of time, food fights are basically skipped to the point where things are basically just fastforward tell without show, if you go in with less than no expectations, this really has a quality similar to movies that are known not for their writing but that they are enjoyed because they are bad.
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That was my attitude to bleach, with the added salt of "I want to complain about it".
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Just keep it simple, if a fictional work aims at being serious, i take it seriously and i am more critical, if a work is just aiming for purposeless fun like SnS is for example, i do not think too much about it.
I fare mostly well with this approach, and there is no useless judging of series that never aimed to be critically appealing.
It's in the most popular magazine of the country, a magazine that judges your popularity week by week and if you don't perform well you're on the chopping block, it very much aims at being critically appealing.
"purposeless fun" is a contradiction, there's always a purpose to it, if "purposeless fun" made any sense then the comedy world would be thrown on its head.
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God forbid we have any actual expectations that the series actually give us anything worth reading as opposed to literally any other series considering they're all of the same level of quality given this approach to consuming any form of media
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It's in the most popular magazine of the country, a magazine that judges your popularity week by week and if you don't perform well you're on the chopping block, it very much aims at being critically appealing.
"purposeless fun" is a contradiction, there's always a purpose to it, if "purposeless fun" made any sense then the comedy world would be thrown on its head.
I mean, it may be a contradiction, but so long as people go in with the expectation that this is well below mediocre writing, then it's fine, right?
Like I mean, it seems based on what everyone is saying here that Soma is a series with no real writing designed purposefully around the cooking and random gags rather than any progression of characters or payoff, so in that sense, it should be fine for people to have no standards, because Soma's quality is just like the quality of series that rank lowest and the closest to being cancelled. Even if readers originally came here to see pretty decent arcs, neat takes on cooking ideas, and interesting reaction shots, the series still has its core roots that made it enjoyable even after the writing's gone substandard, the cooking gets completely skipped, and the reactions have become bland. Because we still revisit the characters we know and love who are exactly the same as they were way back when without any expectation that they will ever progress.
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@MDL:
If this can be pulled off okay throughout the next few arcs, then this will have been a really cool switch up.
But yeah, for now, on paper it's dumb. Good thing I was always in this manga for the fun anyways.Me from two months ago: Gonna give this a chance, see if it keeps my interest through virtue of being fun.
Me right now: I reeeeeaaaaaally don't click with the reveal of this random brother who's somehow better than the supposed end goal.
That's almost a deal breaker for me. Even as an optimist who's easy to please, this has gone a bit south of my expectations.This doesn't change what I said before.
Sometimes I have no problem overlooking dumb plot shit for the sake of the fun,
like in the case of Air Gear, KHR!, etc.
But this kind of twist TAKES AWAY from the fun, because one of the things I liked about this manga was Soma's goal of beating his Dad.So basically, I said I'd give the new direction a chance.
But that chance just took a heavy blow with a bat.
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But I mean, this could theoretically set up for some fun character interactions, which I think is what everyone is here for. I don't get what people are so hung up about considering this is exactly what people signed up for and thought was okay when we've all said we're in this just for the fun. Don't see what the big deal is when this latest plot development is about as well structured as high schoolers running the most prestigious cooking academy in Japan or pinning all your plans on a class that will eventually graduate. The series has not really regressed any development more than it already has for the past few years and is still as enjoyable and entertaining as it has been then.
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His brother eh?
Can't wait when he shows up, beats Soma silly, then loses after Soma goes to Azami to get training.
Mark the date and time guys, you heard it here first.
I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.
You won this week Fairy Tail.
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His brother eh?
Can't wait when he shows up, beats Soma silly, then loses after Soma goes to Azami to get training.
Mark the date and time guys, you heard it here first.
Azami but with a mustache
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This couldn't have just been a small little one off arc while the Mangaka tried to get his bearings on what to do next. Some series don't need long arcs or a central antagonist to be good and interesting, and this is one of those series. The Azami stuff was long, drawn out, and took away from a lot of character development and actual cooking stuff. Seeing the new Elite 10 together could've been very different, seeing how they all react to each other, especially with Eizan still being there. Perhaps we could get a better look into how various characters are getting towards their dreams, even being in the top 10 they still have a ways to go to reach their goal. Or, you know, seeing the school back to normal after Azami left to at least land a point of how you shouldn't restrict creativity. It wasn't a great arc but at least finish it off with something. Instead, we get this.
I can't even get enjoyment out of this by making fun of it, because unlike Bleach it doesn't have that distinct badness to make fun of. It's just below average with what I loved not really there anymore, but nothing so over the top bad to really dig into. I imagine Alice and her gang wasn't there because she figured there was a better story to be a part of.
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This was a weird reveal. And honestly I forgot that there was the reveal of someone named Saiba working with the noir chefs lol.
This brother thing feels…I dunno. I can't really say I care one way or another. It is what it is. Somas' dad has shown that he is oddly secretive for no real apparent reasons.
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Character to character interactions were a lot stronger earlier in the series, and personally, what I enjoyed most about Soma, but a lot of potential ones got glossed over last arc.
There's some of that which I enjoy this chapter, but the pacing seems to rob a lot of it.
Then there's this flash defeat that undermines a the father-son confrontation set up from the beginning. What even.
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Well….. I think I'm done with this series now. I sat through the Central arc, it had its ups and downs, but this, I don't know, I'm just not about it. I guess I'll still scroll through the new chapters when I read Viz official weekly version, but I'm no longer invested in this series anymore
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It's in the most popular magazine of the country, a magazine that judges your popularity week by week and if you don't perform well you're on the chopping block, it very much aims at being critically appealing.
"purposeless fun" is a contradiction, there's always a purpose to it, if "purposeless fun" made any sense then the comedy world would be thrown on its head.
Being popular and being critically appealing are two different things though.
Nobody is judging this series week after week from a literary standpoint, it´s a much more subjective and simplistic way of looking at it, is it still fun or not.
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@Purple:
God forbid we have any actual expectations that the series actually give us anything worth reading as opposed to literally any other series considering they're all of the same level of quality given this approach to consuming any form of media
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I mean, it may be a contradiction, but so long as people go in with the expectation that this is well below mediocre writing, then it's fine, right?
Like I mean, it seems based on what everyone is saying here that Soma is a series with no real writing designed purposefully around the cooking and random gags rather than any progression of characters or payoff, so in that sense, it should be fine for people to have no standards, because Soma's quality is just like the quality of series that rank lowest and the closest to being cancelled. Even if readers originally came here to see pretty decent arcs, neat takes on cooking ideas, and interesting reaction shots, the series still has its core roots that made it enjoyable even after the writing's gone substandard, the cooking gets completely skipped, and the reactions have become bland. Because we still revisit the characters we know and love who are exactly the same as they were way back when without any expectation that they will ever progress.
Well, it depends on you. If you want to expect something from such a story and manga that, from the beginning, never put the bar really high regarding teh story and its coherence but stood out based on its art and like you mentioned, the more than often hilarious reaction shots, the question whether you are doing yourself a favor is appropriate me thinks.
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Being popular and being critically appealing are two different things though.
Nobody is judging this series week after week from a literary standpoint, it´s a much more subjective and simplistic way of looking at it, is it still fun or not.
Actually yeah people are, in this thread in fact, are you actually reading this thread? About this very chapter people are talking about the ramifications this reveal has on various characters. That's critically judging it.
On top of that there's various other arguments to be made about it such as that it's being put up for sale. As a commercial product. That means you're being put up for critical reception by default. In fact the idea of "is it fun or not" is critically judging it.
Never mind how WSJ works, every title fights for a chance to stay based on readers vote, people vote for the series they enjoyed the most that week, they do that based on their own thoughts and judgements, which could potentially be more than just "hey i had some mindless fun this week". The problem in your idea is that "is this enjoyable" is apparently not criticism? While it very much is, one of the very basises of critcism is in fact about whether or not a given product can appeal to people or not.
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Well, it depends on you. If you want to expect something from such a story and manga that, from the beginning, never put the bar really high regarding teh story and its coherence but stood out based on its art and like you mentioned, the more than often hilarious reaction shots, the question whether you are doing yourself a favor is appropriate me thinks.
The series was never going to be prime quality, but Purple Hermit and others have talked about how there was heart and actual character development and buildup early on. Megumi was shown to grow confidence and over time show she could be up there with the best of her class, and there were a lot of great moments her over the course of the series through the fall festival. I was never a big fan of Soma but he got some nice development when he learned that he needed to learn about other kinds of cooking and find what kind fits him best. The early battles pitted ideals and with the build up made them much more interesting. Both people in the battle had some motivation shown and while there was some sort of stake put on the battle, the ideal was the much bigger part. I think of Mimikasa (copy guy) against Soma, where Soma showed that experience and passion to make something trumps being able to copy and refine a dish.
Yes, even in at its best this series wasn't going to go down as one of the best, but there was quality to it that made it worth reading, and with that came great reactions to eating food. Pretty much all of that is gone, with only from time to time some good reactions happening (sinful Megumi was a great reaction page). However, with the Azami stuff all character stuff was rushed and/or shoved aside, and big achievements were basically a side note (Souma getting the first seat), any hope of the series having those great moments are pretty much gone.
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My favorite part of every week is discussing with everyone here how great the writing is and enjoyable it is to see characters grow only to also admit that the writing is also horrible in a way that the character arcs and interactions are a hollow shell of where they were. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
But you know, fiction's good and all that. If you're a hater, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, I guess.
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Next week, we'll have a one-shot chapter named Shokugeki no Sanji made by SnS authors in case anyone is oblivious about it.
