Didn't even check the date more like.
Knowing you you'd pull milk out of the fridge not check the date and down the whole lot even if it went out of date years ago.
Silly zachri it be more like yogurt!
Didn't even check the date more like.
Knowing you you'd pull milk out of the fridge not check the date and down the whole lot even if it went out of date years ago.
Silly zachri it be more like yogurt!
Bro for the past few days you been getting desperate for attention, looking for who to go at it with, but seems like everyone on the "One-way IDGAF(I don't give a fuck) train" while your stuck waiting for one to stop your way. Sad man really sad:sad:
BRO BRO, CHILLAX! U r still teh funni, kk??? KK???!! funni adn a qtpa2t.
! That's not Rebecca and looks nothing like Rebecca, though.
@Miss:
BRO BRO, CHILLAX! U r still teh funni, kk??? KK???!! funni adn a qtpa2t.
! That's not Rebecca and looks nothing like Rebecca, though.
Nothing against Monkey King at all, but I mean I have seen him go at people harsher then need be. So why doesn't everyone just chillax maaan!
What would be the point to involve the Zou-guys? If the actual members can't finish it, how the hell could the B-team be of any use?
I don't know. I'm not Oda.
All I know is that Law giving Nami a vivre card and telling her to go to Zou if anything happens wasn't emphasized for nothing.
@Monkey:
No, no he wasn't lol.
Also I'm pretty darn sure Voodoo doesn't have to use straw for the dolls. It just so happens to be the common form.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
What was ruined? A shitty joke?
That's true.
It's pretty obvious though that the entire concept behind Hawkins Paramecia DF is him being a living, walking straw voodoo doll, with the capabilities of redirecting damage to others with damage directed at him (through the use of small voodoo dolls).
He can probably damage and drain others by "hurting" a voodoo doll itself (doesn't need the help of others).
@Miss:
BRO BRO, CHILLAX! U r still teh funni, kk??? KK???!! funni adn a qtpa2t.
! That's not Rebecca and looks nothing like Rebecca, though.
How do you take such ignorant posts and turn them into something so beautiful. (By ignorant I mean the whole intentional bolded part)
Seriously you have a gift
@Monkey:
lol what the heck, straw does not have mythological properties
I guess the word "popularly" fits better in that context.
@Miss:
BRO BRO, CHILLAX! U r still teh funni, kk??? KK???!! funni adn a qtpa2t.
! That's not Rebecca and looks nothing like Rebecca, though.
Fuck YEAHH! I love when "Miss Saturday" bitches about something. Mmmm
And how can we know what Rebecca looks like when she wearing helmet? Never mind cuz she looks like Nami.
@The:
That's true.
It's pretty obvious though that the entire concept behind Hawkins Paramecia DF is him being a living, walking straw voodoo doll, with the capabilities of redirecting damage to others with damage directed at him (through the use of small voodoo dolls).
He can probably damage and drain others by "hurting" a voodoo doll itself (doesn't need the help of others).
Agreed, the fruit is about voodoo, the straw is incidental.
@Monkey:
Agreed, the fruit is about voodoo, the straw is incidental.
How exactly does he turn into a strawman then? I don't recall voodoo doing anything like that.
edit: His entire group is clearly psychic, it's most likely he already had the talent of voodoo, straw, or "Scarecrow" is most likely his devils fruit.
How exactly does he turn into a strawman then? I don't recall voodoo doing anything like that.
My impession was that he turned into some sort a freakish vodoo doll,
How exactly does he turn into a strawman then? I don't recall voodoo doing anything like that.
edit: His entire group is clearly psychic, it's most likely he already had the talent of voodoo, straw, or "Scarecrow" is most likely his devils fruit.
It could be the other way around–he got a "voodoo" DF and has been teaching his crew some of the things he's learned from it.
I really doubt you can teach something that a devil fruit specifically gives you the potential of. I mean his psychic readings are clearly accurate, I would imagine this was purposely demonstrated to show that the base of all this "voodoo/psychic" is his base character, and the ability or manipulation of straw is what the fruit added to his character.
EDIT: Also this has no intended sass, your points are just as valid as mine, I'm just adding my own perception of the introduction of the character.
This has been a strangely long week.
For me at least.
I really doubt you can teach something that a devil fruit specifically gives you the potential of. I mean his psychic readings are clearly accurate, I would imagine this was purposely demonstrated to show that the base of all this "voodoo/psychic" is his base character, and the ability or manipulation of straw is what the fruit added to his character.
EDIT: Also this has no intended sass, your points are just as valid as mine, I'm just adding my own perception of the introduction of the character.
If so, the straw could be used in a similar fashion to Law using his sword.
It's a possibility but as I said, he completely transforms to a scarecrow like figure, so he become straw, law's sword is a tool and is demonstrated as such. But I can't say for certain the same as his character hasn't had enough screen time.
While I believe he does have a Voodoo related power, DFs haven't really been branded with titles such as (Voodoo Practitioner or Pupeteer). Paramecia DF abilities are usually just objects: Rubber, Rooms, Candle, Doors, Paws.
I feel that Voodoo is related to the an object, but what object? Straw doesn't hold it for me.
¿qué es lo que ustedes piensan?~
While I believe he does have a Voodoo related power, DFs haven't really been branded with titles such as (Voodoo Practitioner or Pupeteer). Paramecia DF abilities are usually just objects: Rubber, Rooms, Candle, Doors, Paws.
I feel that Voodoo is related to the an object, but what object? Straw doesn't hold it for me.
¿qué es lo que ustedes piensan?~
That's how I feel, but I do think straw is the answer, I would imagine he'd use a better..substance if he had the choice. But I'm glad I'm not the only one on this train of thought
This has been a strangely long week.
For me at least.
fast week for me, and I'm wishing Tuesday should never pass.
Hawkins will probably be called a "redirection man" (like how Law is a "modification man", you don't have to be/have an "item") once his DF is fully explained, if it's fully explained.
Seemingly, everything he does revolves around him redirecting affects to others through the use of straw dolls. For instance:
Hawkins takes damage > damage transferred into straw doll > damage transferred to person straw doll is assigned to.
Hawkins punches/kicks/stabs/throws straw doll > affect transferred (either being punched, kicked, stabbed, or thrown) to person straw doll is assigned to.
I think all Hawkins "straw form" really does is give him a different method of attack, and it's main purpose to bolster his defense (and increase his height). Though… The bolster defense part, I suppose, could be disproven based on how easy Kizaru got through it; but he's an Admiral, a top-tier fighter.
@The:
Hawkins will probably be called a "redirection man" (like how Law is a "manipulation man", you don't have to be/have an "item") once his DF is fully explained, if it's fully explained.
Seemingly, everything he does revolves around him redirecting affects to others through the use of straw dolls. For instance:
Hawkins takes damage > damage transferred into straw doll > damage transferred to person straw doll is assigned to.
Hawkins punches/kicks/stabs/throws straw doll > affect transferred, either being punched, kicked, stabbed, or thrown, to person straw doll is assigned to.
I like this idea!
me gusta esta idea~
Has the possibility of Hawkins being a mythical zoan type, turning into a mythical figure like the Japanese god Kuebiko been discussed? It seems to be a deja vu but I can't pinpoint the exact post.
@Portgas-D-Ace:
Has the possibility of Hawkins being a mythical zoan type, turning into a mythical figure like the Japanese god Kuebiko been discussed? It seems to be a deja vu but I can't pinpoint the exact post.
I wasn't aware that voodoo was japanese.
But could it be a convination?
Vodoo like abilities + Straw fruit.
What I mean is the creation of the straw dolls = devil fruit, asigning a poor bastard to the doll = his own ability just like foresight seems to be.
@Monkey:
I wasn't aware that voodoo was japanese.
I haven't known giant Buddha statues violating the very essence of the concept of ahimsa as well, yet here we are.
Hawkins' primary power is straw manipulation.
Hawkins' Voodoo dolls that redirect damage are a specific application of his power.
It's really simple, guys. Hawkins' ability is based on (a certain aspect of) Voodoo, but it isn't Voodoo.
@Portgas-D-Ace:
I haven't known giant Buddha statues violating the very essence of the concept of ahimsa as well, yet here we are.
There are some strange buddahs in some strains of Buddhism. Japan is already very off the beaten path of purist Buddhism.
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Hawkins' primary power is straw manipulation.
Hawkins' Voodoo dolls that redirect damage are a specific application of his power.
It's really simple, guys.
Yes, it's really that simple that one of the powers of straw is haitian black magic.
No wait that makes no sense.
There are two legit positions here.
1. He has a straw devil fruit and uses his personal voodoo powers with it.
or
2. He has a Voodoo devil fruit, part of which makes him have doll powers.
The fruit being a straw one with completely random voodoo powers is nonsense.
@Monkey:
The fruit being a straw one with completely random voodoo powers is nonsense.
Not to come down on either side here, but that really isn't a particularly valid argument. You could just as easily say "Kuma's fruit being a paw fruit with completely random pushing powers is nonsense", and yet that's exactly the case.
@Panda:
Not to come down on either side here, but that really isn't a particularly valid argument. You could just as easily say "Kuma's fruit being a paw fruit with completely random pushing powers is nonsense", and yet that's exactly the case.
Occam's razor, otherwise theory anarchy.
And trust me, my prediction scoreboard is damn near flawless.
Isn't it possible that Hawkins is just using an inate voodoo like ability he has and just uses his straw fruit powers as a catalyst?
Isn't it possible that Hawkins is just using an inate voodoo like ability he has and just uses his straw fruit powers as a catalyst?
I disagree but that's one of the two options that it could be yeah.
@Monkey:
Yes, it's really that simple that one of the powers of straw is haitian black magic.
No wait that makes no sense.There are two legit positions here.
1. He has a straw devil fruit and uses his personal voodoo powers with it.
or
2. He has a Voodoo devil fruit, part of which makes him have doll powers.The fruit being a straw one with completely random voodoo powers is nonsense.
Why not? Oda could have very well based Hawkins' ability on a certain aspect of Voodoo, which merges straw with Voodoo magic.
Inazuma's power is to turn parts of his body into scissors, but it has the side-effect of turning anything Inazuma cuts into having the properties of paper. Isn't that random and nonsensical too?
And then we have Moriah. Shadow Manipulation is fine, but where does the Necromancy aspect come from? Shouldn't that be considered random too?
Why not? Oda could have very well based Hawkins' ability on a certain aspect of Voodoo, which merges straw with Voodoo magic.
Voodoo does not give a fuck about straw lol. Find me a source where Voodoo dolls put any emphasis on straw.
Inazuma's power is to turn parts of his body into scissors, but it has the random side-effect of turning anything Inazuma cuts into having the properties of paper. Isn't that random and nonsensical too?
The whole concept there is based around cutting paper, except he can cut everything like that. It's wierd but there's an insane little internal logic too.
You might even say it's partly a strange sight gag.
Where the quirky gag is in your idea I don't know.
@Monkey:
Voodoo does not give a fuck about straw lol. Find me a source where Voodoo dolls put any emphasis on straw.
But see, this, put together with some of your other posts, leaves me a little confused on your opinion. You say that you don't think that Hawkins has an innate voodoo ability, despite that being one of what you feel are the two plausible explanations. Fair enough, then presumably you subscribe to the other option you put forth as viable, namely, that his fruit gives him voodoo powers. Again, fair enough.
But then you also go on to say, here as well as before, that straw has absolutely no relation to voodoo. But in that case, isn't it just as nonsensical, if not more so, to say that his voodoo powers allow him to create, and seemingly even turn into, straw dolls, as it would be to say the reverse? It seems like I must be misunderstanding some part of your stance on this, since otherwise I feel that your objection that there is no connection should apply in either direction.
Hawkins having some kind of voodoo fruit would make sense.
Makes me remember when Absalom and Perona got first introduced, some folks (me included) hoped that both of them just had some power unrelated to devil fruits, like Perona being just a ghost, but it doesn't seem like Oda likes introducing supernatural abilities that aren't somehow connected to Haki or devil fruits (except Sharley who can see into the future for some reason), making Hawkins have genuine DF-unrelated voodoo abilities unlikely.
The dolls being made from straw seems just like a coincidence to me, they might as well have been made out of clay, it doesn't matter.
Hawkins having some kind of voodoo fruit would make sense.
Makes me remember when Absalom and Perona got first introduced, some folks (me included) hoped that both of them just had some power unrelated to devil fruits, like Perona being just a ghost, but it doesn't seem like Oda likes introducing supernatural abilities that aren't somehow connected to Haki or devil fruits (except Sharley who can see into the future for some reason), making Hawkins have genuine DF-unrelated voodoo abilities unlikely.
The dolls being made from straw seems just like a coincidence to me, they might as well have been made out of clay, it doesn't matter.
I never put it into perspective like that! How does Sharley have that ability? Could it be some sort of.. CoO Haki?
tengo curiosidad~
@Panda:
But then you also go on to say, here as well as before, that straw has absolutely no relation to voodoo. But in that case, isn't it just as nonsensical, if not more so, to say that his voodoo powers allow him to create, and seemingly even turn into, straw dolls, as it would be to say the reverse? It seems like I must be misunderstanding some part of your stance on this, since otherwise I feel that your objection that there is no connection should apply in either direction.
Except I haven't said that "straw has absolutely no relation to voodoo". I'm saying it being the material in this case is incidental.
It could just as easily have been clay or something else. The point is it's a doll form that has voodoo properties. Not what it's made of.
Considering that he hasn't shown ANY straw powers, like…..whatever straw power would be. Doesn't it make more sense for it to be about the voodoo?
@Monkey:
Considering that he hasn't shown ANY straw powers,
Didn't he turn into a straw monster at some point in Saboady?
Hancock's fruit is also pretty random with the main thread holding love and stone being Medusa which is clearly what the fruit's abilities are based on.
But my bet is that Hawkins's voodoo abilities probably are devil fruit related. Yes, Oda has introduced prophecies and hypnosis into the One Piece world, but Oda likes limiting magical abilities to Devil Fruits and now hakil. So I'd bet the voodoo dolls bit is devil fruit related instead of something innate within Hawkins.
Didn't he turn into a straw monster at some point in Saboady?
He turned into a large voodoo doll with huge nail claws.
How's this a doll and not a straw?
! can someone explain this to me then?
I always thought he was a spaghetti monster.
show me where. Your recall means nothing to me after i read your second post because it seems you didnt read that part of the story in the manga but only saw in in anime.
that explain why you would think people recognized Ace. I have to tell you though most of the scenes with Ace in alabasta are fillers. Go read the manga. There was nobody who recognized Ace as far as i recall
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Voodoo does not give a fuck about straw lol. Find me a source where Voodoo dolls put any emphasis on straw.
The Okito voodoo doll is specifically meant to be made of straw. It's a famous type. Though most other ones can be made of anything from twain to human hair.
Source: I spent ten years training under voodoo monks in the jungles of Haiti.
He's the spitting image of a [straw] voodoo doll. Pure "straw" (straw what? straw logia!?) wouldn't naturally have the ties around the wrists to hold him together. And the nails also go with the theme (something to stab the doll with).
Perhaps, he has the Doll Doll no mi?
Such an ability could entail voodoo among other things.
es una muñeca~
es una muñeca~
Es un muñeco.
Unless that Doll Doll no Mi entails Ken doll ambiguous groins.
How's this a doll and not a straw?
! [qimg]http://images.wikia.com/onepiece/images/9/9b/Hawkinssizeup.png[/qimg] [qimg]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110829214238/onepiece/images/0/02/Basil_Hawkins_faces_Brownbeard_No_writings.png[/qimg] can someone explain this to me then?
@CCC:
He's the spitting image of a voodoo doll. Pure "straw" (straw what? straw logia!?) wouldn't naturally have the ties around the wrists to hold him together.
Yeah, what CCC mentioned + are you being serious, or sarcastic?
That pic is the best example against 'just being straw'.
Because rubber == rubber
diamond == diamond
yet straw == straw + other stuff?
His finger nails, and a part of his arm is something completely different, so the question is really how is this not a doll, but straw alone, really?
@Miss:
The Okito voodoo doll is specifically meant to be made of straw. It's a famous type. Though most other ones can be made of anything from twain to human hair.
Source: I spent ten years training under voodoo monks in the jungles of Haiti.
Oh my! You just gained a "+" on a "Like" from me.
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