if it's closed then it can be re-opened for when its actually released. Although for stuff that is pre-ordered and then released months later it's not so bad. It's only REALLY noticeable with stuff like wcf since they come up, order, then are posted within a day. So it's more or less continuous
Ideas for seperate threads under the subforum
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I probably most agree with Cyber in this whole scenario. I'm pretty connected to the forum, but with all the posts being moved I honestly felt like I should just shut up for a while because I didn't want to post just to have it moved or wherever, I felt disjointed, which is so odd because this place is like a second home to me since i'm checking in here so often and know some of the members so well ehehe. I thought the Preorder thread was just for links, but it quickly changed to all orders & shipping which muddled it. I enjoy reading about who got orders, who needs them, what shipped as well and lump them together much in the way that Cyber does. I went to find a link to HLJ's Garp (as it wasn't coming up on HLJ's search) and had to wade through the preorder thread AND the main thread to find it because it was before the split. It was no fun.
I do think trying to keep things too much in control is going to limit us too much. Either completely limit us (with one thread and some FAQs like we're used to) or free us and allow us to make threads. I think a thread for each release would be perfect (or by release month). It might seem cluttered at first, but in the long run it will probably be easier to find what you're looking for especially if a link to the thread is given on the main 'release' page of the forum. So, next to an item's release info, put a link to the thread for the orders/shipping/griping pertaining to that item. No one could complain info/discussion/ordering for an item was too hard to find. Also, if someone didn't want to have 10 pages of POP release info to wade through just to find out about some FCs it would never be a problem.
So, my 2 cents =
thread for links only
threads for each series of releases for shipping/preordering to get dumped
keep the main chat for whatever we wantI do think the mods are working hard on trying to make this place better and organized though, so let's not get out our pitchforks or anything ehehe. One of the nice things about this community is that since we collect, we need to be able to AFFORD to collect, so many of us are older and capable of rational conversation and valid points. Also, we're going to run into some hitches, some ideas will work and some won't. We can always try different things and if a lot of people don't like it, well, we're still building. This is a really experimental period for our subforum, and it's nice to have this area where we can give feedback and all talk about what people like and what we don't.
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I don't even think it needs to be for everything. It's only really POPs and wcf that take up pages. Possibly GLM/Figuarts/MBHs too. But for things like FCs, Keyrings and older things I don't think it's so bad to just have them in the main topic.
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LOL yeah that's what i figured XD I initially thought it was a bad idea to 'separate' the different lines, but then I think of people like Sephirona who just want to know about a few things and all the rest is just chatter and a lot to wade through. I collect a lot of things, so it doesn't bother me as much as I imagine it would other people.
Is there any way we can set up a vote or something? XD
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I'm glad to see some intelligible discussion in this thread without the overdramatization. Obviously there are some individuals that feel that the preorder/order thread is a bad idea in its current state. It's easy to sit there and fire off complaints but I'd appreciate it if we spent that effort toward finding a solution. So far I see 2 main ideas being thrown around to modify the current implentation:
- Individual threads for release(s)/session….new POP preorders of the month, WCF watch for the month etc.
- Make the preorder/order thread link only and continue all discussion in the general thread.
There are some major pros and cons to both these approaches....and I want us to continuously discuss them so we can see what works and what doesn't. I personally think Cyber's idea of individual threads per releases/sessions may not be such a bad one as there aren't that many releases per month that the mass majority goes gaga over. The remaining discussion for the smaller merch can stay in the general discussion since it won't move at mach speed. The only problem here are some administrative ones but I think the mods and admins may be able to work some things out. This does not solve the complaints from various members regarding reading seperate threads and not wanting more than 1 thread for everything....in which case...I regret to say it's unrealistic at this point unless you dissolve the subforum and go back to having 1 thread....there is no point in having a subforum with 1 active thread packing everything into it.
The other idea for links only is nice and efficient....but my major gripes with it is that it can be used exclusively to alert preorder timing/stock timing to go visit certain stores and discourages participation in the community...there's more to this hobby than the sole purpose of getting preorders....also, it does nothing to resolve the fact that the main discussion will be bombarded with chatter during these order sessions and possibly skim over actualy figure discussion.
Keep the ideas coming, all of us are watching and hope that we can change the current setup to something people will enjoy using.
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To expand on Cyber's idea: A thread a month. The first post (Utilizing the format Alina gave us with the last 2 megathreads)would let us know what to expect that month and the thread will contain updates as to what's announced, what's up for pre-order and what's shipping.
At the end of the month, start over.
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my suggestion is, keep the preorder thread. But keep it clean, just LINK only.BUT….if you wanna post that preorder link in general thread, that's okay too.AND if you do......just make sure that person/someone post that link in preorder thread.So ppl will easily find the link rather than browsing 20 pages to find 1 link .
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LOL yeah that's what i figured XD I initially thought it was a bad idea to 'separate' the different lines, but then I think of people like Sephirona who just want to know about a few things and all the rest is just chatter and a lot to wade through. I collect a lot of things, so it doesn't bother me as much as I imagine it would other people.
Is there any way we can set up a vote or something? XD
It's still a bad idea to seperate the general discussion of certain sets really. I probably complain more than anyone about merch I don't care about and don't see the need to seperate. I just think it might be worth at least trying the idea of making a seperate topic for a POP release. A seperate topic for the wcf release (could try with vol 13?) and then if people post in the other ones so be it.
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I think its bit annoying to move from thread to thread to post/see discussion about our collections.
I really like what sensui done to this.
- OP collection thread
- Preorder thread
- Buy
- Sell
- MISC collection
Its perfect for now.
I think its better to keep it minimum.
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I'd still like a video review topic. Since there are at least 4 or 5 people doing it. And with a whole topic it means people get a chance to have their videos seen and they're up there for a few days (and can get feedback etc.) instead of a few hours.
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How about Alina posts the first post of the Collectibles threadand it gets its own sticky? It's really really useful for everyone so no reason it shouldn't be. Obviously lock it so only she can post there.
This would be sensible.
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How about Alina posts the first post of the Collectibles threadand it gets its own sticky? It's really really useful for everyone so no reason it shouldn't be. Obviously lock it so only she can post there.
I don't think that would be possible. I'm not sure about vBulletin but I haven't seen forum software that allows you to edit a locked thread unless the post is by someone that has the permission to lock and unlock.
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I don't think that would be possible. I'm not sure about vBulletin but I haven't seen forum software that allows you to edit a locked thread unless the post is by someone that has the permission to lock and unlock.
Hmm anyone know if thats true here also. I locked the stickies from Maggie and Elisabeth. I havent heard that i didnt work for them
but they might havent try it yet.edit: Looks like what Xajen said was true unless you are a mod you cant edit your post in a closed topic.
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I'd still like a video review topic. Since there are at least 4 or 5 people doing it. And with a whole topic it means people get a chance to have their videos seen and they're up there for a few days (and can get feedback etc.) instead of a few hours.
Cyber, you can just put it on u signature.
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How about if people just still post whatever they want in the general thread but we can post more specifically in other threads if only one thing interests them? So the people that only want WCFs can just go to their thread, and the people that want to hear all the chatter can just stay on the general thread?
I like blacksmith's idea, too, about posting links wherever but someone needs to put it in the ordering thread as well so it's more accessible.
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I agree with limiting the order/pre-order thead to links only.
I am not ready (for now, or forever maybe) for a separate thread for each series.
At first, I thought the monthly threads (ConeKiller) would be a good idea but we don't know when preorders will happen. Except for WCF and POP, yes, but what about the rest ?
Furthermore, I'm sure people would get even more confused and discussions would only split partially and multiply individually~I am with Cyber on the News / Reviews thread.
Cyber, have you posted your layout about it ?
It sounds like a very good idea.
Here is what I got from our discussions.
Every week reviewers would make requested video review(s ?) plus some of there own choice (?) and a quick news about the previous week events in the world of OP Collectibles.
The set of videos would be released every Monday (?) and updated on the first post (I think) plus the previous episodes would be linked so that viewers can easily find them through the thread.
There could be even special ones when some conventions happen.I think that's all for now :)
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Lunch Time here in Work Land!
So I can post my idea fullyOP Order/Preorder is up Notification Thread (No Chat)
In this thread would be the notifications only, see something appear? Post it here, no chatting, no questions etc, this sometimes takes a while to get right new members will have to have posts deleted and be informed, along with an informative first post.
If something is out of stock edit the post, not make another, or perhaps an Admin could even do this.
(Also perhaps one for non-OP collectables, as I missed the Awesome Cookie Base Vegeta on PA and I bet others did too! :D)OP Order/Preorder chat
This is where you post if you got something, your shipping notifications, your rage over missing stuff etc.OP Collectables General Chat Ver etc
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I would like to see a thread for figure discussion (Collectibles V.X), a thread for shop/order discussions and a thread only to post links to new or available one piece merch. ^^
Pretty much like sasari ^^
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Lunch Time here in Work Land!
So I can post my idea fullyOP Order/Preorder is up Notification Thread (No Chat)
In this thread would be the notifications only, see something appear? Post it here, no chatting, no questions etc, this sometimes takes a while to get right new members will have to have posts deleted and be informed, along with an informative first post.
If something is out of stock edit the post, not make another, or perhaps an Admin could even do this.
(Also perhaps one for non-OP collectables, as I missed the Awesome Cookie Base Vegeta on PA and I bet others did too! :D)OP Order/Preorder chat
This is where you post if you got something, your shipping notifications, your rage over missing stuff etc.OP Collectables General Chat Ver etc
The Big Chat ^.^Yes, I really like this as well.
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I want the people discussing forum struture ideas to know that I'm constantly considering and thinking about these suggestions. Keep them coming as it helps us create the organization that suits the majority of you. So far there are a lot of good ideas….pros and cons again.....I'd like to see more discussion about these ideas before weighing in myself as I'm still thinking about it:
- Seperate the preorder thread into 2 threads, 1 link only another to discuss.....or move all discussion of such back into the general thread.
- Organized video review thread.
- Announcement thread and keep discussion in the general thread.
Anyone have more feedbacks regarding the marketplace implementation? Wanted to see how it's working out for you guys, all suggestions are welcome, please post or pm as you see fit. Thanks.
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How about a collection thread? Like, post your OP collection ect.
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How about a collection thread? Like, post your OP collection ect.
We have that. Its called Post Your Rooms. Same thing.
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Anyone have more feedbacks regarding the marketplace implementation? Wanted to see how it's working out for you guys, all suggestions are welcome, please post or pm as you see fit. Thanks.
I like the marketplace wishlist thread. It's nice for me to just have one post I can update that I don't have to worry about it getting buried XD
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1. I still like this idea. Even the pre-order links end up buried by people talking. So it's no different to what it was before. Move all discussion of collectibles back into the thread and make the seperate topic.
2. I voted for this idea at first. However it could go both ways. People could look at them less. Since i imagine a lot of views would just been people being curious. (Unless the video thread is kinda like a hub for all of them. Allow people to post their video in the main thread first and then just use the video thread once a few pages has passed. (means if people wanna look back at a video they can find it easily.)
3. Dunno really. Keep things the way they are and then do something like put Alina's first post as a seperate topic would be best. I really don't see the need to split things up any further. Most people know to go back a few pages and comment later or whatever.Marketplace is briliiant. Got some things I was missing and sold a few too. All quick and painless. Thanks!
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Marketplace wishlist is great. I've gotten a few PMs for stuff on my list. Sadly I can't get them all. Really nice for people looking for stuff and those wanting to sell finding people wanting to buy easier.
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The consensus I'm getting from the majority of people (and I am slanting that way) as well is that the preorder thread should be limited to link only. The big general thread should be where the discussion is kept to avoid confusion and keep things easier for some individuals to follow 1 thread. This does not solve the problem of the thread moving extremely quickly when an announcement of preorders/orders come by and possibly burying important news/discussion with the typical "I got it/I missed it" comments. But it seems like most people are willing to deal with that for now….so I am slanting toward:
- Making a thread specific to new announcements/news/conventions etc, discussion should go in the general thread.
- Making a new thread dedicated to preorder/order links. All discussion should go in the general thread.
I guess I can stay with the general thread moving quickly as long as the news/announcements are kept out of there so important information won't get buried easily by user comments.
How does that sound to most of you?
P.S. I'm glad to hear the marketplace is working out for you guys. I am about to implement a new thread also for feedbacks to keep track of good/bad sellers on this forum and closing/deleting the old red sellers thread....there won't be a section for ebay shops/sellers because I think it's redundant to keep feedback of what ebay already does for individual seller accounts.
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Sounds good, make it happen…
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The consensus I'm getting from the majority of people (and I am slanting that way) as well is that the preorder thread should be limited to link only. The big general thread should be where the discussion is kept to avoid confusion and keep things easier for some individuals to follow 1 thread. This does not solve the problem of the thread moving extremely quickly when an announcement of preorders/orders come by and possibly burying important news/discussion with the typical "I got it/I missed it" comments. But it seems like most people are willing to deal with that for now….so I am slanting toward:
- Making a thread specific to new announcements/news/conventions etc, discussion should go in the general thread.
- Making a new thread dedicated to preorder/order links. All discussion should go in the general thread.
I guess I can stay with the general thread moving quickly as long as the news/announcements are kept out of there so important information won't get buried easily by user comments.
How does that sound to most of you?
P.S. I'm glad to hear the marketplace is working out for you guys. I am about to implement a new thread also for feedbacks to keep track of good/bad sellers on this forum and closing/deleting the old red sellers thread....there won't be a section for ebay shops/sellers because I think it's redundant to keep feedback of what ebay already does for individual seller accounts.
When exactly does the important information get buried? More like the other way around. Other stuff gets buried when important information/new figure previews comes out.
I still think the only thing that needs to be done is pre-order links. (which can also be used to announce new and upcoming pre-orders) and Alina's first post being made into a seperate thread. Alina's post shows off all the new stuff and the pre-order links/pre-order announcements tell us when they are coming out.
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Without pointing out specific instances, I 've seen people post news during preorder periods and got drowned out by the discussion surrounding the preorders so I definitely do not want this to happen (especially since we're talkin about moving all this talk/commments back into the main thread). I don't think the new thread should be used to announce new or upcoming preorders becauses 1) no one can fully predict with certainty for the webshops for the most part and 2) The point is to make sure that the post only updates when a preorder/order link is up and live.
Regarding your suggestion for Alina's post, this has been on my mind and I wanted to speak to her personally about it so I hope she'd contact me when she's ready to talk.
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I do not only agree but I think it is a MUST to have a new thread with only the pictures of the newly released/ exposed stuff.
Keep this thread as talking, fangasming and complaining and everyone can link the photo's of the new created thread to this thread anyways. But its much friendlier for other people that do NOT want to see other peoples bitching about certain lines/releases and pages of complaining an fangasming (We know all girls like Ace, Robinchan we know you like Robin and Chopper, We know certain people do not like Figure arts zero, We know WCF new releases look more and more like bootlegs, We know P.O.P are Slow,) .
For the people that do like it can take a look at this thread still :)
We got the space so why not use it? it's not like this thread will die or something :)
Posted this on Collectibles thread from one piece.
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Without pointing out specific instances, I 've seen people post news during preorder periods and got drowned out by the discussion surrounding the preorders so I definitely do not want this to happen (especially since we're talkin about moving all this talk/commments back into the main thread). I don't think the new thread should be used to announce new or upcoming preorders becauses 1) no one can fully predict with certainty for the webshops for the most part and 2) The point is to make sure that the post only updates when a preorder/order link is up and live.
We usually do know when POPs are coming up. And wcf you can guess the right couple of days. That's news enough for me.
First one is a moot point since the pre-order chat and general discussion chat is seperated anyways XD If it was all together then yeah I could see it being a problem. Although the news always gets reposted anyways so.
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Hmmmm. Does the subscribing to topics actually work? I'm subscribed to the new one and selected emails yet have had no emails from AP about updates to the topic.
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How about we put everything back the way it was?
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Hi everyone,
I'm sure by now many of you have noticed that I'm a new mod here in the Collectibles section, and you may even be wondering "who the heck is he?" I may not have done much posting on the forum but I've been working closely with collectors and AP staff, both publicly and behind the scenes, since the start of the sub-forum idea and creation process. I'm a long-timer on IRC, and anyone who drops by either the main Arlong Park channel or the collectibles room will probably find me there, where I moderate both chats. The regulars there will tell you I don't bite… much :P
Anyhow I'm just here to help out and try to assist in things going smoothly, as a liaison between IRC and the forum, the collectors community and the greater AP community, and members and staff. While I am not myself an avid collector, I'm sure those of you who know me have no doubt that I'm working in the best interest of this community, in which I have friends, and I'm also in constant dialogue with sensui. I can at least say that I personally have nothing to gain here, I'm just trying to make things go as well as possible.
But enough introduction! I know this forum is still young, changes are being made, and people are having to adapt. Everything that happens here is based on user input and general goals for the new forum. Now that we have this dedicated section, we want to be able to allow it to grow and expand, and have a bit more structure. I understand that some of you find it simpler to have all discussions in a single thread and read it all there, but that's quite chaotic. Please try to understand that not everyone wants the same things. Super-fast moving threads can be overwhelming, tedious, and contain all kinds of stuff not everybody wants to read. There are three overall goals that I think can summarize the general intentions here:
- Take advantage of the new forum to create room for new discussions, expansion, and interaction.
- Create the most logical and organized system to make things easy to find, easy to use, and friendly to everyone.
- Ensure a nice environment where collectors can have fun and have their needs attended to.
Again, not everyone wants/needs the same things, and obviously no single person represents the community as a whole. But keeping everything in one big thread is simply not viable. It's like having one massive textbook for every subject, and wanting everyone to read through every section just because they all interest you. It might be slightly more effort to find the topics individually, but it simplifies things overall. Of course the specifics can always change and are being worked on, including format, and it will take time for everyone to adjust, but please try to see the bigger picture here.
There seems to be some confusion as to what goes where. It's not meant to be confusing, or intimidating, making people doubt themselves and wonder if they should venture their post in this topic or that. Sometimes there is overlap, but in general just use your common sense and judgement. If you have something to say about preorders or items up for sale, stuff you're expecting etc, then use the preorder/in stock discussion. If you have more general figure stuff to talk about, use the general thread. If you have both, pick the one that seems to make the most sense.
The links only thread is just there for informational purposes, for the ease and convenience of everyone who follows stores and preorders and such. A quick, easy way to get at the information you want. It doesn't take away or divert the actual discussion. It's simply analogous to the release diary, which we plan to expand to a thread about new items where pictures etc can also be posted. This doesn't mean people have to stop discussing new releases in the main thread. In any case, everyone's input is still valued and we'll work to make everything as nice as possible for everyone here.
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can we change the names of the threads, make it more simple…..or make it more friendly.
The one that we have at the moment are a bit boring.......this is ONEPIECE XDIf we think about it, that link thread is a bit useless cos most of them are sold out within seconds XD....
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There seems to be some confusion as to what goes where. It's not meant to be confusing, or intimidating, making people doubt themselves and wonder if they should venture their post in this topic or that. Sometimes there is overlap, but in general just use your common sense and judgement. If you have something to say about preorders or items up for sale, stuff you're expecting etc, then use the preorder/in stock discussion. If you have more general figure stuff to talk about, use the general thread. If you have both, pick the one that seems to make the most sense.
The links only thread is just there for informational purposes, for the ease and convenience of everyone who follows stores and preorders and such. A quick, easy way to get at the information you want. It doesn't take away or divert the actual discussion. It's simply analogous to the release diary, which we plan to expand to a thread about new items where pictures etc can also be posted. This doesn't mean people have to stop discussing new releases in the main thread. In any case, everyone's input is still valued and we'll work to make everything as nice as possible for everyone here.
The confusion is that things are just randomly changed suddenly. When it first came up the whole thing was seperated and a load of people ended up missing pre-orders because they weren't aware about the extra topic and the fact that anything talking about pre-orders was deleted or moved to the other topic without people being notified. This has caused a few long staying members here to up and quit the forum. Or simply to lurk instead. Others complained about how it was harder to follow many fast moving topics. Even I feel like it's becoming a lot more difficult to post here because of the rules of being restricted to talk in certain threads. The things people were complaining about seemed to have been ignored and went entirely the wrong direction.
So it was brought up here. Where a few weeks have passed and the idea came up to make a seperate topic just for the links so people could register to it. And then all discussion on pre-orders can go back to the general discussion. Then suddenly there's yet another topic for pre-order links. Excellent. However once we pre-order there….we have to go to another topic to discuss pre-ordering and if we want to talk about the figures themselves we have to go to yet another topic for that. It's all terribly annoying and confusing to have three topics all for one thing. If the announcements is done the same way that's another two topics too. (or one if we can talk about said announcements in that topic.)
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Yeah, agree with u cyber.
I just want something simple.
Link thread….that's fine.....just link. Wanna post there, go ahead. Should stick this one, so it will not confuse some ppl.
General Thread….talk about everything! Share Our love and passion here. You can do everything, post link, stores, collection, etc.
Buying and selling threads…..good! no discussion here
Red Flag seller/store….good information. Stick this one too
Custom Creation/art thread…...go maggie!
Collection picture…....dont know if we really need this, cos if just pictures, its a bit too heavy for me to load.But yeah, other than that, i dont see anymore reason to divide threads
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Collection picture…....dont know if we really need this, cos if just pictures, its a bit too heavy for me to load.
Wouldn't that make it a good thing? Means you don't have people's room pictures being too heavy to load in the main topic XD
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@ Blacksmith and Cyber:
Per Foolio's note, no one individual represents the entire community. I've thought about these issues you've mentioned…..but all in all, we all know we have different interests/stakes in the collectibles community. Some feel more comfortable and take a more personal approach/share their feelings/share their every thought and emotion as they go through order process or see news. Others may just want to see the order link and news without any discussion period. These are extreme examples but you get the point. Different threads make sense logically.
In regards to comments regarding confusing changes happening suddenly.....there are people from all over the world on this forum with different time zones. There is no good "downtime" to implement changes. We have to just implement it and run with it and see how things go. If things work great, if something doesn't....we'll change it. So anytime we run these changes it will feel sudden. With comments as to people missing preorders.....this was simply not the case.....the only hot preorder at the time was the POP restocks from amiami and it was already sold out within minutes.....From my perspective, long time posters got up and left/lurk because of 2 reasons 1) Not even wanting to give the change a chance and to try out the organization or 2) Not willing to spend a couple minutes reading about the new forum organization and just throwing up their hands. I can't really say I sympathize with these users as none of them gave any real input as to how they'd like to see improvements versus just non-constructive posts.
Of course you expect some confusion and some cross posting at the beginning as the changes are new, but really take a step back and think about the organization logically and you may come to agree these ideas weren't as bad as you make it out to be without even trying it. Meanwhile, Foolio and I will do our best in explaining the rationale behind the changes and answer your questions regarding any of the changes.
I really did think about putting all discussion back into one thread but watching members off and on making heated comments because they're sick of seeing what other members are posting is one main reason I think we have to split off certain conversation. This way most people get to read what they want and it becomes easier to search for relevant information instead of going page by page on 1 merged thread. Give it a try all seriously, I really don't think managing 3-4 threads is that huge of a deal in any regard.
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I think all of us got so used to reading EVERYTHING that it seems like a hassle now/strange to have it in multiple places. I've personally found it's nice not to have the other series collectibles and room pictures in with the pack as I usually skip a lot of those posts (sorry, guys!) because I'm on my smartphone or just don't have the time. I'm resorting a lot less to just skimming the forum and that's helpful to me personally. Also, I remember with more ease where links are/where something was discussed which helps as well. I can't tell you how many times I'd want to see a picture again, or need a link again, only to vaguely remember the page or what post it was near, then rummage through over 15 pages that accumulated since that time. I even got in the habit of posting every time I checked the forum just so I would know where I've read up to. Crazy. It's a little easier to breathe now.
That's just my 2 cents.
Marketplace rocks!
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I have no problem with them making the pre-order links and the announcement thread. I just don't see the need to have three seperate discussion topics when that's mainly what is happening. Discussion.
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I have no problem with them making the pre-order links and the announcement thread. I just don't see the need to have three seperate discussion topics when that's mainly what is happening. Discussion.
What three are you referring to? The non-OP thread and post your rooms thread at least are well-received and make a lot of sense (as you even mentioned for picture-heavy posts). Right now there are only two main discussion threads: the general one and the preorder/in stock one. This won't change even if there's an announcements/new releases thread. It's not that complicated. It just reduces the volume of stuff in each thread and makes it easier to to find info depending on what you're interested in.
I'm sorry if it takes you an extra 5 minutes to check both and read a bit of overlapping information. And saying it disoriented people is a VERY short-term problem even if true. Once someone reads the thread descriptions once they'll be up to date permanently. I'm not quite sure what people expected; it's not a magical transition that fixes every person's unique problems and desires with absolutely no effort and no need to adjust.
But as a significant community on AP it creates space to grow and be more dynamic, and have organization that doesn't depend on the general mods. For those of you wishing things were just back how they were before, try to be a little more open-minded and get used to it, because this is definitely a big step forward.
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Most of the people claiming to leave or just lurk have been posting again, which is good. It seems tempers have calmed down and we're on the way to becoming a cohesive community again. No need to lose friends over a petty disagreement ^_^
I'm good with the breakdowns we have now. But to be honest, I can't afford many of the newer figures so I haven't had to be glued to my screen for the drama of the grand pre-order ordeals, so the goings on in those subjects are beyond my attention.
The biggest issue I had with the single mega-thread we used to have was whenever new stuff was announced, I'd have to wade thru 20 or so pages of "I didn't get the pre-order last night!!!" "I did get the preorder last night!!!" "Ace is soooooo hawt!!!" "need more Chopper point figures!!!" etc. The Uber-first post was a great step in the direction of alleviating that hassle, but not always as up-to-date as it could have been (not blaming anyone for that, we're dealing with a world-wide community here with timezones completely opposite from each other, it's bound to happen) Also, it wouldn't take into account different angles posted from other sites covering the same event.
Also, having one mega thread makes having our own sub-forum near pointless! Sure we're secluded from non-members' prying eyes (tho I wonder how big of a problem that truly was…) but a sub-forum with only one thread is..an awful waste of space.
We'll need some adjustment time but we'll be up and running in no time! We can do do it, ApForums Collectibles Community!!!
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Also, having one mega thread makes having our own sub-forum near pointless! Sure we're secluded from non-members' prying eyes (tho I wonder how big of a problem that truly was…) but a sub-forum with only one thread is..an awful waste of space.
Most of them registered and lurk once again XD In fact it's probably even easier for them to 'steal' the pre-orders now XD
Personally I have no problem with it. Everyone should be allowed to get merch. But then again I'm lucky living on a Time-Zone that easily allows me to pick up figures. (except when P-A put their stuff up super early XD)
To be honest I feel like the whole AP collectible community has lost it's bounce. Instead of being all fun it's more like 'post here for this. no. You can't post that there. Post it here.' Personally I care not one bit about Marco and Law POPs but it was fun to read that the people who do were getting them.
Going by the logic that A: We have a sub-forum and B: People don't wanna go through topics to read stuff. Can I have my Doctor Who merch topic back?
Also. Can we have a funny title again? ;-; This is exactly what I mean about the fun of the place going away. Could at least have changed the pre-order thread to 'Quick! Pre-order-oh they're gone…'
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I pretty much wanted to mention everything mentioned by Cyber allready.
And honestly I'm happy and mad about the following things:
First the good stuff, the subforum is working like a train, I think for now we have the right ammount of topics and the right stuff devided (not to much, which is good). Congrats on that and you make me a very happy forum jumper by doing so.
Now the bad stuff, changing the things that worked perfectly allready. My biggest dislike is that all the funny names have become generic… For no real reason. People should understand the biggest topics (in pages) are the ones you can talk about anything related honestly.
So next idea: Make a little poll before changing stuff, I know this takes more time etc. But then you at least know the changes are wanted by the comunity.
Thanks.
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Well to be fair. It was kinda confusing having three topics with the word pre-order in XD (Well. Not for anyone who were used to it I guess.) Just a bit of a shame it went to something bland.
But what could be used instead?
One Piece Collectibles: The never-ending POP recolours
One Piece: THE WACKY Figure Choices.
One Piece Collectibles part 7: No. This ISNT the pre-order thread.
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Hmmmm. Does the subscribing to topics actually work? I'm subscribed to the new one and selected emails yet have had no emails from AP about updates to the topic.
I don't know about topic subscription, but I do know that I haven't been getting email notifications for my pms since before the forum make over. If it actually does work, that would be really awesome, since then my phone would tell me when someone posts a link.
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I pretty much wanted to mention everything mentioned by Cyber allready.
And honestly I'm happy and mad about the following things:
First the good stuff, the subforum is working like a train, I think for now we have the right ammount of topics and the right stuff devided (not to much, which is good). Congrats on that and you make me a very happy forum jumper by doing so.
Now the bad stuff, changing the things that worked perfectly allready. My biggest dislike is that all the funny names have become generic… For no real reason. People should understand the biggest topics (in pages) are the ones you can talk about anything related honestly.
So next idea: Make a little poll before changing stuff, I know this takes more time etc. But then you at least know the changes are wanted by the comunity.
Thanks.
Just because you understand how it works doesn't mean everyone else will. Also we have some members whose english is not their first language, so I can see how having a thread title that is not direct could be confusing for them.
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We can still have something funny just less confusing, but I think I better let Al!ina decide it. :P
For now at least it shows clearly what the purpose is. There's no problem with creative and clever naming (have you ever looked at the FAQ thread? The whole thing is in a very warm spirit), but people have to stop getting confused and freaked out by something really simple too. This version simply had an unfortunate title. As bran-chan mentioned a lot of people HAVE been getting confused. Don't worry though, I'm sure once things fall into a groove everything will fall back into the right atmosphere, including thread titles. ^^