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@Louis-1988:

Irrelevant to our discussion earlier.

Prize items do not have a suggested retail value since they aren't supposed to be sold anywhere in the first place.

They sell it anyway, same thing when amiami still selling prize items, etc. They got their own supplier for that.
Even with Dive, Megahouse, Alter, etc…they got more than 1 supplier.
Same with nippon yasan, Im sure they also got more than 1 supplier.
And they can get some rare stuff that's already more expensive than retail value.
They're also offering a service where they can search figure that you want that's not available in stores anymore.

@2D3Y:

I might be new here, so my opinion might not be relevant, but I'm sad about this discussion.
I'm gonna take Louis side on this. I can't see any valid argument on BS answers apart from childish replies.
I just believe that Louis made a valid point by saying that nippon-yassan is not an honest shop.
If they buy from the manufacture company (which I believe might be true due to having preorders) they should sell the product at retail price, and make the profit that the manufacturer is suggesting. Otherwise they're taking advantage of the customers and the figure companies. The figure companies taxes their products knowing that the retailers will get some money from them. Nippon yassan however taxes their products (even the new ones like Bonney or Dofla) way over the retail price, making neat profit for an item that they were already gaining some money from.

A store can get more than 1 supplier for 1 item. Happened to my order with amiami and hlj. They said they can't get it from their usual supplier and will try to get it from different supplier and told me to wait. Different supplier might give them different price. We don't know what's going on behind those prices.
Amiami also started to sell preowned fgure. HLJ selling prize items higher than most other store, etc.

@Louis-1988:

This somehow relates to me bragging about how great it is?

Just now.

Anyways, i'm done talking with you. The novelty has worn off and it's no longer amusing. Last word is all yours, champ. I know you wouldn't be able to get a good nights sleep without it.

Hehe, That's how small your integrity is. =)
I'm feeling sorry for kolektakon. Its a great place to shop, but you're just dragging them down.

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@Enzeru:

No wonder you don't bring it up. Who would believe that someone like you is actually a moderator? A moderator should be able to correctly use the English language and act like an adult. Surprisingly you seem to not fulfil either of those requirements. I've followed the whole discussion and like I mentioned earlier- Lou pretty much pulverized all the points you brought up. In my eyes you're nothing but a pathetic person pretending to be versed in figures but ultimately you know shit. :3

Edit: Fuck you, Lou. Now I have to edit my post so that BS knows I'm talking to him.

Awwww, so sweet the way you're supporting your waifu.

Its already been said by Urohige, most ppl don't know shit about being moderator. LOL

@Louis-1988:

That I believe in honest and moral business practices? I'm glad we're finally on the same page, I hope this conversation has been enlightening for you.

Yep, when some other store sells cheaper than the place you work for,
trash that store by bringing all the dirts that you can find about that store.

Good moral business practices! LOL.

@Louis-1988:

Hmmm… The truth?

I rest my case. To me, its tells me the truth about yourself.

@Louis-1988:

Honestly BS… Your logic and reasoning are abysmal and leave much to be desired.
I'm not here as 'Kolektakon', i'm here as Louis, a member of AP. If you want to talk about Kolektakon, PM me.

Lets review….

You posted a link to kolektakon for Chopper limited
But then someone is nice enough to posted a link to a store which offer the cheapest PO for Chopper.
but then, someone started calling that store lying and ripping ppl off by bringing some rare figures they sell that's higher than retail price.

what does it looks like to you?

and if you don't wanna post on their facebook, how about at MFC?

Plus, no matter what you said, It's not going to change the fact that they're still offering a cheaper PO for chopper than Kolektakon.

@Louis-1988:

That would be about as pointless as going to stormfront or the black power forum and trying to tell them racism is wrong. Or it'd be like going to the Flat Earth Society and trying to convince them that the earth is in fact round.

Retailers buy from manufacturers and distributors at wholesale prices. In other words, they get massive discounts for bulk buys. Their profit margins should be generous, if they aren't then they need to re-evaluate what they are doing in this business and crunch some more numbers. There is an enormous difference between 5k yen and 9k yen. If you're missing target profits by a margin of 4k then something is wrong somewhere.

I won't name any names(unless you want me to PM you) but I have seen this a lot.

No see, this is what we call a "bargain" or a "discount" in the retail business. This is how business' of all sorts compete with one another. I can't believe you just tried to use that as an argument lol. You're really grasping at straws.

But you seems so eager to tell ppl they are ripping ppl off with their high price. Why not their facebook. You might help someone.

Discount will be different, depends on how many that you buy. Do you think buying 1 case will get the same discount as buying 1 container?

Hell, take HLJ. If you become their wholesales customer.
Sometimes they gave you a smaller discount than their retail discount.
The discount is that small if you're buying small quantities.
It happened so many times. With retail they give us 5% discount. But for my friend that already become their wholesale customer for 15 years, they only give him 3%. He need to buy 1 case(usually 12-24pcs) to get 7% discount.

But we don't called them cheap, lying and dishonest retailer. Its just business, we just says they're expensive and find some other supplier.

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@Louis-1988:

No see, this is what we call a "bargain" or a "discount" in the retail business. This is how business' of all sorts compete with one another. I can't believe you just tried to use that as an argument lol. You're really grasping at straws.

SO BIJ is also ripping ppl off and lying for selling their chopper above retail price?

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BTW, are you going to argue and trashing other store like this every time there's a store that sells cheaper than kolektakon?

@Louis-1988:

I'm debating you as a fellow collector, customer, and member of the forum, not as 'Kolektakon'. Lets try to avoid personal attacks, shall we? We're both grown men here. That said, look good and hard at the bold for therein lies the truth.

Amiami, HLJ, Otacute, and HS don't have trouble making profit while not over valuing their merchandise. You're absolutely right though, they can set the price to whatever they want. Just because they can price their products however they want doesn't mean overvaluation is an honest or respectable business practice.

It's the truth, and to argue otherwise is nonsensical. The lie and 'hidden' fee are every cent above it's retail value. It compromises the shops integrity, if it didn't no one would raise the issue.

I haven't said anything about how great my store is. It's not even open yet.

You can't expect all store will be the same. They are unique on their own.
Why don't you try to post what you said here on their facebook. And let see what ppl will say about it.
http://www.facebook.com/Nippon.Yasan

Do you think amiami will get the same discount with other small stores?
Some small stores might need a bigger margins to keep their stores running.

They're not lying, they're not forcing ppl to buy their stuff.
They'll be lying and dishonest if they're stating retail prices higher so it will make their price seems to be cheaper.

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Hehehe, selling stuff above retail is dishonest
how about selling stuff below the retail price? is that dishonest too?

@Enzeru:

It's a great read seeing how Lou basically dominates this discussion with valid arguments and all he gets in response are vague answers in broken English. :3

dominates as making a fool of himself, trashing other store, calling other store dishonest+ripping ppl off and thinks so highly about his store…..then yes. He definitely dominates that.