The Arlong Park Official General Discussion Thread

[LaCaSiNa]

@Insider2000:

It's awful. I've always been good at math, yet writing and English is something I'd love to do. You never want to do what you're good at.

Hey, me too, high five! Though currently I'm studying script writing and cinematic expression so I'm kinda getting to study what I actually want to do in life.

@freedom:

Secret to understanding math.

Prove [(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4.

Ooooh I see, thanks! This will solve all my problems!

… no wait

[Kaze]

@freedom:

I was always a math geek. Never liked English and grammar.

Secret to understanding math.

Prove [(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4.

English and history were the easiest classes to me.

[Smudger]

Why did I do geography instead of history…....WHY!?

[IceBorg]

I love history, the sad thing is that last year my class had the stupidest teacher ever, she even made me hate history, ughhhhh how sad.

[freedom]

@Airflow:

How can I prove something when there's an unknown? :p

hehe… is there :ninja:

@LaCaSiNa:

Ooooh I see, thanks! This will solve all my problems!

… no wait

[Malintex_Terek]

@SMUDGER:

Why did I do geography instead of history…....WHY!?

Geography doesn't exist as a valid academic subject at certain colleges in my rergion, interestingly enough. Partly it's funding, partly it's existential. The current philosophy among administrators is along the lines of, "If Doctors without Borders exists, and they wouldn't if there were geopolitical borders, why are we spending money to the study of them"?

Geography is now resigned as an inter-discipline to certain liberal arts. There's no option for science in it anymore either.

[Smudger]

@Malintex_Terek:

Geography doesn't exist as a valid academic subject at certain colleges in my rergion, interestingly enough. Partly it's funding, partly it's existential. The current philosophy among administrators is along the lines of, "If Doctors without Borders exists, and they wouldn't if there were geopolitical borders, why are we spending money to the study of them"?

Geography is now resigned as an inter-discipline to certain liberal arts. There's no option for science in it anymore either.

Where are you from then?

I can kind of understand why they'd remove it from the main syllabus, but it IS still relevant to a large portion of industry nowadays.

e.g. Building/development and agricultural.

It is incredibly boring though, especially when facing off against such a rich and diverse subject as history.

[Outerspec]

Took AP Calculus in HS and it was a bitch and a half but I passed. When I took Pre-Calculus in college I breezed through it without having to study. Math is interesting when you understand it (as Cuddles said).

Best subject for me is history and subjects dealing with world culture. The world is an interesting place to observe.

[Chrissie]

@freedom:

I was always a math geek. Never liked English and grammar.

Secret to understanding math.

Prove [(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4.

<=>
2x+1/2x - 2x + 1/2x =4
2/2x=4
2x=4/2
2x=2
x=2/2
x=1
…D8 waitwut?

I was a Modern Greek+History geek myself... Now I am more like a Psychology+Philosophy geek as long as I don't have to recite things from a book. I hate doing that.

Maths is evil.

[SuperJew]

@Chrissie:

Maths are evil.

Yes yes a thousand times yes.

Although, this means I'll have a (relatively) worthless degree coming out of college as opposed to my friends in the math and sciences who'll be making serious money starting out.

[Airflow]

@freedom:

Secret to understanding math.

Prove [(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4.

Curse my bitter pride that forced me to work this out.

x^2 + 1 + 1 + 1/x^2 - x^2 + 1+ 1 -1/x^2 = 4

1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 4

:sad:

[Kitsune Inferno]

Congratulations.

You just destroyed my brain.

Hell, the tournament bounties did enough brain damage

[freedom]

@Chrissie:

<=>
2x+1/2x - 2x + 1/2x =4
2/2x=4
2x=4/2
2x=2
x=2/2
x=1
…D8 waitwut?

You're almost there, keep trying

Maths is evil.

@Airflow:

Curse my bitter pride that forced me to work this out.

x^2 + 1 + 1 + 1/x^2 - x^2 + 1+ 1 -1/x^2 = 4

1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 4

:sad:

Why are you sad? Wasn't it easy to work out… :happy:

[KaizokuFan22]

2D class is mayhem..untimate chaos.. some of this stuff boggles me..and its just Art! O.o

[Airflow]

@freedom:

Why are you sad? Wasn't it easy to work out… :happy:

But not to type out…

[MetaMario]

@freedom:

I was always a math geek. Never liked English and grammar.

Ah, same here. (Although I can't say I don't like English, it just gets on my nerves most of the time).

Secret to understanding math.

Prove [(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4.

Uh….Let me see:

[(x + 1)^2 - (1 - x)^2] = 4.

x2 + 1 - 1 - x2 = 4

x2 - x2 = 4

0 = 4…...yeah, you got me.

[Outerspec]

[(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4. (why 2 equal signs?)

Just translates too:

(x + 1/x)(x + 1/x) - (x - 1/x)(x - 1/x) = 4

x^2 + 1 + 1 + 1/x^2 - x^2 + 1 + 1 - 1/x^2 = 4

x^2 - x^2 = 0

1/x^2 - 1/x^2 = 0

Leaving 1 + 1 +1 + 1 = 4

4 = 4

It's a headache just looking at it.

[MetaMario]

@Outerspec:

[(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4. (why 2 equal signs?)

Just translates too:

(x + 1/x)(x + 1/x) - (x - 1/x)(x - 1/x) = 4

x^2 + 1 + 1 + 1/x^2 - x^2 + 1 + 1 - 1/x^2 = 4

4 = 4

It's a headache just looking at it.

Oh, wow. I feel so dumb now. Thanks for the answer. ^^;;

[Outerspec]

@MetaMario:

Oh, wow. I feel so dumb now. Thanks for the answer. ^^;;

Ah, well Airflow figured it out before me, I was just trying to simplify it.

[MetaMario]

@Outerspec:

Ah, well Airflow figured it out before me, I was just trying to simplify it.

Oh, well, my thanks to the both of you then.

[freedom]

@Airflow:

But not to type out…

Touche!

@MetaMario:

Uh….Let me see:

[(x + 1)^2 - (1 - x)^2] = 4.

x2 + 1 - 1 - x2 = 4

x2 - x2 = 4

0 = 4…...yeah, you got me.

Airflow just showed how to work it out lol

@Outerspec:

[(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4. (why 2 equal signs?)

Just translates too:

(x + 1/x)(x + 1/x) - (x - 1/x)(x - 1/x) = 4

x^2 + 1 + 1 + 1/x^2 - x^2 + 1 + 1 - 1/x^2 = 4

4 = 4

It's a headache just looking at it.

That's the step that most people miss. I used to tutor math when I was in college, so I remember a lot of the things people would get wrong frequently.

I used == instead of = because typing maths is very difficult when you can't go up or down as necessary and I wanted to differentiate between a proof and an equation. Essentially, I wanted to use = something like that.

[MetaMario]

@freedom:

Airflow just showed how to work it out lol

I wanted to try to figure it out on my own, without seeing the solution.

That didn't quite work out…..but still.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

I saw a a paper with about 20-30 sites just to prove that 1+1 equals 2.

–

But lets try your question(havent done it in years and never thought i would try again)

• stands for multiply

[(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4.

x²+2*(x+1\x)+1\x² - (x²-2*(x-1\x)+1\x²) = 4
x²+2x1\x+1\x² -x²+2x1\x -1\x² =4
2* (x1\x) ²=4
2x²*1\x² =4
2 == 4

(does == mean : does not accord?)

mhh but when x=1 it would be 4…arrrg

[freedom]

@Don:

I saw a a paper with about 20-30 sites just to prove that 1+1 equals 2.

This is the type of stuff you do in what was called "Discrete Maths" for me when I was in college.

But lets try your question(havent done it in years and never thought i would try again)

• stands for multiply

[(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4.

x²+2*(x+1\x)+1\x² - (x²-2*(x-1\x)+1\x²) = 4
x²+2x1\x+1\x² -x²+2x1\x -1\x² =4
2* (x1\x) ²=4
2x²*1\x² =4
2 == 4

This first line is not expanded correctly. See previous posts for expansion.

(does == mean : does not accord?)

== just means = (equals)
But I wanted to differentiate between an equation and a proof.

Prove 2 + x + 3 - x == 5 is different to solve 2 + x + 3 - x = 5.
(at least, I was attempting to portray the difference between the two symbols) :unsure:

[Hannyabal]

@Don:

[(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4.

x²+2*(x+1\x)+1\x² - (x²-2*(x-1\x)+1\x²) = 4
x²+2x1\x+1\x² -x²+2x1\x -1\x² =4
2* (x1\x) ²=4
2x²*1\x² =4
2 == 4

This is reason why i love History,destroy my piggy & buy a calculator. :getlost:

[Fire-Fist]

@freedom:

This is the type of stuff you do in what was called "Discrete Maths" for me when I was in college.

dont remind me of it… i had b+ in it :sad:

[Chrissie]

@freedom:

You're almost there, keep trying

NU! I don't want to!
I should charge you for every use of that emoticon.

[Kitsune Inferno]

I get free access right, Chrissie?

Back on-topic, I don't like rational expressions anymore :(

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

@Hannyabal:

This is reason why i love History,destroy my piggy & buy a calculator. :getlost:

:happy:
Who is stupid?
The one who can`t calculate in is head big numbers without help, or the one who refuse to use a common apparat who gets you the answer quicker.
Is like not using the i-net for information…

[Chrissie]

@Kitsune:

[qimg]http://i39.tinypic.com/2lwrla9.jpg[/qimg]

I get free access right, Chrissie?

Back on-topic, I don't like rational expressions anymore :(

I am contemplating whether or not I should charge everyone or just freedom right now. Don't tempt me.

Eh, I was good at Algebra. Statistics too. Sometimes they are pretty fun. But not always. I blame 2 certain professors from back in my Junior High and High School days for my Math-hate. .___. Ever had those kind of professors that made you despise one subject?

[Kitsune Inferno]

@Don:

:happy:
Who is stupid?
The one who can`t calculate in is head big numbers without help, or the one who refuse to use a common apparat who gets you the answer quicker.
Is like not using the i-net for information…

But what if your head IS like a calculator, only faster?

Then what?

[Greg]

What's the Naruto thread doing here?

[Malintex_Terek]

@freedom:

I was always a math geek. Never liked English and grammar.

Secret to understanding math.

Prove [(x + 1/x)^2 - (x - 1/x)^2] == 4.

I got 4/x^2 = 4/x^2.

Close enough?

@Greg:

What's the Naruto thread doing here?

Kidney flooded it with vasopressin vanpressin, and it somehow calcified in General Discussion.

[iPenguin]

Math eh?

Well here's stuff from my current subjects

1 + 1 = 1 (in Boolean Algebra; + means or )

14 (base 10) = 1110 (base 2) = 16 (base 8) = 0E (base 16)
I dealt with bases in Discrete Mathematics. Along with proofs and probabilities and such. I actually liked this class. Linear Algebra and Calclulus II on the other hand bored me… I took Calculus I in high school and the teacher was awesome so it wasn't bad.

[Chrissie]

@Greg:

What's the Naruto thread doing here?

Maths .

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

@Kitsune:

But what if your head IS like a calculator, only faster?

Then what?

Then your life would be so sad that you would only have numbers to play with…

[Bobjr]

@Chrissie:

Maths .

And who caused this demon subject to come here?

[Robo Gorilla]

@Malintex_Terek:

I got 4/x^2 = 4/x^2.

Close enough?

I don't know what you did to get that, but from there you could just multiply both sides by X^2 to get the same answer as everybody.

@Bobjr:

And who caused this demon subject to come here?

AP's most nefarious villain, Kitsune Inferno.

[Hannyabal]

@Bobjr:

And who caused this demon subject to come here?

Another Warden,in order to change the world. :blink:

[freedom]

@Fire-Fist:

dont remind me of it… i had b+ in it :sad:

I also got a B in Discrete math

@Chrissie:

I should charge you for every use of that emoticon. [qimg]http://i39.tinypic.com/2lwrla9.jpg[/qimg]

Hey, No backsies on our deal. I have our original contract still.
Or are you the type to go back on a deal? For shame…. :wassat:

[Kitsune Inferno]

To be fair, I didn't explicitly bring math to the table.

The topic can still maybe be considered "classes you are having trouble with" so try going with that, hm?

Off-Topic: We need a poll. Something extravagant, yet delicious.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

Why talking about school…that makes us all sad and look stupid right now:ninja:

[Malintex_Terek]

I wish Linear Algebra was a pre-req for Economics. I had to deal with that in Econometrics, it was insanely useful and simplified a heck of a lot, but I couldn't do transformations. It hurt.

@Robo:

I don't know what you did to get that, but from there you could just multiply both sides by X^2 to get the same answer as everybody.

I was too lazy to factor the whole problem, so so I factored out an additional 1/x from the two quadratics and they combined to give me that at the end.

[Kitsune Inferno]

@Don:

Why talking about school…that makes us all sad and look stupid right now:ninja:

Then change the topic. It's gotta be gradual though. You can't just outright jump to a new topic, you have to ease in to it, if you will. For example, there have been many discussions in this thread you cam branch out from.

Case in point, Oregon's sales tax was mentioned. :\ Find a segue into a new discussion, if you must, but don't outright attempt to get several discussions going at once, lest you want this thread closed.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

Or i just wait for a more interesting topic because maths still has a few points we havent covered yet, and i dont want to interrupt it now

[Chocula]

I'm kinda interrupting it now:

School means a lot of stress to me at the moment. I just finished studying for the english test tomorrow and preparing a presentation for politics. I always work at night because I can handle the stress and the pressure better (even though I only have 4 hours of sleep left). Is that weird? How do you guys deal with stress?

[Robo Gorilla]

By not doing the work.

[Hannyabal]

@Chocula:

How do you guys deal with stress?

Read the manga scanlations,sleep or do nothing.

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

Iam also doing my stuff in the night most of the time:happy:
Always waiting to the last minute to begin with learning and so its always hard to pass the exams. Have to change that but somehow doing that actually his harder for me than its said..

[loledinmypants]

Well… my input on this current topic of classes will be minimal (see below), but as KI's lt., I'll be keeping you in line with my asteroid dropping resources. That means no turning this into a spam thread.

On Topic: I don't start classes until the 27th (lovely post-birthday present), so I kinda have to wait and see if anything I'm familiar with comes up in others' schedules. I'm not the best at math, I'd have to relearn everything I learned in trigonometry and calculus. Harder or more tedious math seems to fade away when I don't use it... If anyone wanted to reteach me, I'd do well though, I'm usually pretty good at anything I take. Provided, of course, I don't fall prey to my laziness and skip a lot of the work.

Edit: With stress over classwork, I actually find I work better when doing stuff in a pinch. A reasonable pinch mind you, not doing a 2 hour project in 30 minutes right before turning in. Maybe doing that 2 hour project in, say, the last 6 hours before the deadline. The need to finish being closer makes me focus harder on the work. Otherwise I get stressed for want of free time to enjoy stuff. I need lots of free time, but it dwindles the further along I go in life =/ Generally my stress is from boredom or loneliness, obviously the former being the case with classwork. I never really struggle, but it can be tedious...