Right. But if you read Mangastream's crappy translation, it says, "what if the others get sexier than Nami and Robin?" which means he's thinking of the guys.
That scared me for a sec. I thought Sanji might have still had a little Okama in him.
Chapter 595: "Oath" Discussion
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AOHIGE….
dunno if you are going to read this message, but if you do....could you please stop by the Volume 59 thread to see if there is any good information in the last SBS???
Thanks...
A humble personYou mean any good jokes right?
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Upon re-reading the fail of mangastream's translation of this chapter something came to my attention:
Sanji while in fantasy mode gets a nose bleed while exploring the possibility of the rest of the crew getting sexy bodies like Nami and Robin, of course disregarding that all of them are guys…
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/55562012/16
So according to Fail-Stream Sanji has unconsciously come under the Okama influence and is now seeking homo buttsecks????
Words fail me….
So it's just one small translation change and it's a fail for the entire Mangastream translated chapter of 595?
You must be one of those guys who rages when they find one small slight change in anime dubs and call the dubs horrible just for that one change…
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So it's just one small translation change and it's a fail for the entire Mangastream translated chapter of 595?
You must be one of those guys who rages when they find one small slight change in anime dubs and call the dubs horrible just for that one change…
You must be one of those guys who is affiliated with Mangastream.
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her powers probably have a limited range like buggy's ability to manipulate parts.
Things probably revert back to normal when shes not within a specific area of the targets.
Maybe.
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If bonney can really alter her age to be younger or older, there's a possibility that she could be akainu's ex wife, or daugther, or … his Momma. That explain why akainu didn't blast her. He's still a momma's boy....LoL.
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So it's just one small translation change and it's a fail for the entire Mangastream translated chapter of 595?
You must be one of those guys who rages when they find one small slight change in anime dubs and call the dubs horrible just for that one change…
Oh I can live with small translation errors, heck everyone is human. I can do fine with Zolo, or Maruta-whatever, and Forsooth. Those dont matter, here however the mistake is not a word per se but an entire sentence, which dramatically changes the message from what it really is.
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^I suspect this molokidan guy, besides being a really bad translator, doesn't even know much about One Piece and its characters.
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@Zik:
Akainu isn't a failure of a parent like Garp.
Yea Akainu made sure to magma fist his kids when they back talked.
@Superbear:
Proportions be damned! Bigger is always better! Besides it would be complete poppycock for the main female cast to lose to Boa!
They'll all lose to the mermaid princess
So it's just one small translation change and it's a fail for the entire Mangastream translated chapter of 595?
You must be one of those guys who rages when they find one small slight change in anime dubs and call the dubs horrible just for that one change…
If it was just 1 small translation mistake I probably agree with you but the pass I don't know all of molokidan's OP translations had small or more so MAJOR fails. But thankfully we got cnet128's translation in the weekend and Aihoge's spoiler translations.
^I suspect this molokidan guy, besides being a really bad translator, d_oesn't even know much about One Piece and its characters._
You don't have to suspect it's FACT!
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Well in the chapter Doflamingo does categorically state two important points about the mystery person:
- That the person holds a very special position of importance in the Marines
- That the person regardless of the said importance has no official authority over Doflamingo
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I admit almost everything in the last part is wild speculation but the examination of facts may ultimately point to this conclusion eventually.
But then again, this is One Piece. Not one of us on this forum would be here if it was anything but unpredictable.
Heck the mystery person might even be a girl..notice the weird hair / shadows under the bowler hat...:ninja:...BTW who the heck wears a bowler hat anymore???
EDIT: Sorry for the long post
Nevertheless imo the person looks more like Robin than Vegapunk (to judge it from the clothes). This person wears a Miss All Sunday jacket.
Its likely to say he could be Vegapunk, I know why: Dofla used the PXs to get rid of Moria.
But that person seems interesting. He could act independent from the Gorousei (they were upset to fill 3 holes in the shichibukai, maybe they didn't even know about Moria's real death!)
Did he/she just want the kage kage no mi, or does he/she have a special candidate 4 the shichibukai that he/she want to suggest?
And what does Moria do now. Officially (in the newspaper) he is dead. Maybe he uses this situation 4 his personal advantage.
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So if it's 2 years… will everyone be counting exactly 2 years? That's a bit hard.
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I just read the chapter.Very intresting.I believe that Bonney will be a very important person later on in the story.She has a connection with the WG without a doubt but what kind of connection…?
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I just read the chapter.Very intresting.I believe that Bonney will be a very important person later on in the story.She has a connection with the WG without a doubt but what kind of connection…?Anyway,when the next chapter comes out?
In 2 Weeks….read the first page....
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I still want to know if Sanji will fight Iva as well once again… No way in hell he can defeat him that soon. If the become that powerful as Iva in a short time it would be a bit too much
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@Zai:
Just looking at this scene kinda gives me the feeling that they are related somehow.
i just noticed Hina had pink hair. HINT HINT
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I still want to know if Sanji will fight Iva as well once again… No way in hell he can defeat him that soon. If the become that powerful as Iva in a short time it would be a bit too much
I disagree. While Iva is strong he wasn't strong enough to make any kind of impact on the war. Were entering the final half of the story now if Sanji cant become that strong now he's going to be useless when they actually enter the new world.
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Haven't had a chance to read the chapter, just been busy at work.
But based on the spoilers, I do find it out that Blackbeard was willing to attack both Garp and Sengoku at the same time at Marineford but seems to shy away from Akainu.
Nevertheless, I do understand why he would opt out of an encounter with Akainu.
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I disagree. While Iva is strong he wasn't strong enough to make any kind of impact on the war. Were entering the final half of the story now if Sanji cant become that strong now he's going to be useless when they actually enter the new world.
Iva fought on par with Admiral Kizura just like Marco he was able to hold him in place and or push him back to withdraw. That to me is a HUGE impact in the war since the 3 admirals were pretty much the main arsenal for the marines. So putting Sanji to get as strong as Iva would be a insane boost of power, don't see that happening for any of the SH's to fight on par with a admiral until near ending climax of this story.
Haven't had a chance to read the chapter, just been busy at work.
But based on the spoilers, I do find it out that Blackbeard was willing to attack both Garp and Sengoku at the same time at Marineford but seems to shy away from Akainu.
Nevertheless, I do understand why he would opt out of an encounter with Akainu.
When blackbeard got the quake powers he was overcome with joy his plan worked and also increased his confidence a lot more. Reason why he got all cocky taunting Garp/Sengoku making remarks on their age being on the same generation as Whitebeard (btw he was not alone fighting those 2 he had his crew). Sengoku and Garp smacked it clearly to Blackbeard he himself still has way's to go(blackbeard admitted this in chapter 576 I think). As for his crew mates they were in prison before so they had to get caught one way or another. Kind a obvious top tier of the marines still are a formidable force against Blackbeard and his crew. Especially Akainu who out of all people won't hesitate to magma-fist you for any reason.
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His crew must be pretty rusty from rotting in Impel Down all those years, I wonder if they need to fight some weaker people to get back to their former strength.
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I'd be happy if Sanji could defeat Iva, but I don't think it'll happen.
I don't necessarily think Iva is top-top tier, but he is one of Dragon's generals, so he must be pretty good. However, his defeat to Magellan (granted his powers are pretty haxed) shows he isn't the boss. He was also only placed in level 5 and not level 6 in Impel down, so we can make some judgment on that.
Sanji is destined to be boss eventually, near Zoro's level, so he'll need to get a boost somehow too
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So if it's 2 years… will everyone be counting exactly 2 years? That's a bit hard.
Or maybe Luffy will do something huge again to signal all of them again.It took more or less that amount of time for Roger's crew to conquer the GL and the main man be named Pirate King. If they seriously had to wait that long, BB would have been king.
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I'd be happy if Sanji could defeat Iva, but I don't think it'll happen.
I don't necessarily think Iva is top-top tier, but he is one of Dragon's generals, so he must be pretty good. However, his defeat to Magellan (granted his powers are pretty haxed) shows he isn't the boss. He was also only placed in level 5 and not level 6 in Impel down, so we can make some judgment on that.
Sanji is destined to be boss eventually, near Zoro's level, so he'll need to get a boost somehow too
I'm not saying he is top-tier but he is not to far from it if he can push back a admiral. (Doesn't mean he can beat a admiral though) Just shows he's powerful enough, also the impel down levels yes are good way to classify the strengths of some of the pirates but Iva was clearly shown as Iva>Croco (then again this can be just some comical joke from Oda) and crocodile was thrown in at lvl 6 under Iva. So can't be to sure about Impel Down.
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It took more or less that amount of time for Roger's crew to conquer the GL and the main man be named Pirate King. If they seriously had to wait that long, BB would have been king.
Good point but remember the elusive treasure One Piece hasn't been found for decades since then. Roger's trip may have been 2years but that doesn't make it the same for Blackbeard. Whitebeard been said to be the closest one to obtaining one piece in the pass and now in recent chapters we been shown he could had obtain it he had the motivation. (Flaskback before whitebeard die Roger offer the route to Raftel) But from how this story is unraveling so far there's definitely more to it then just becoming the pirate king.
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It took more or less that amount of time for Roger's crew to conquer the GL and the main man be named Pirate King. If they seriously had to wait that long, BB would have been king.
Well, there are many pirates who still can't get to One Piece after so many decades. WB didn't want it, I think Shanks doesn't want it, so there are still many others who are powerful and haven't been able to get to it. BB may be powerful, but he may have trouble.
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Good point but remember the elusive treasure One Piece hasn't been found for decades since then. Roger's trip may have been 2years but that doesn't make it the same for Blackbeard. White been said to be the closest one to obtaining one piece in the pass and now in recent chapters we been shown he could had obtain it he had the motivation. (Flaskback before head die Roger offer the route to Raftel) But from how this story is unraveling so far there's definitely more to it then just becoming the pirate king.
True though. But in that span of time, a lot of things may happen. Some could get killed, get sent to Impel Down, or worse, get magma-fisted by Akainu :wassat:
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True though. But in that span of time, a lot of things may happen. Some could get killed, get sent to Impel Down, or worse, get magma-fisted by Akainu :wassat:
Some of the many possibilities I'm looking forward to!
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I'm not saying he is top-tier but he is not to from it if he can push back a admiral. (Doesn't mean he can beat a admiral) Just shows he's powerful enough, also the impel down levels yes are good way to classify the strengths of some of the pirates but Iva was clearly shown as Iva>Croco (then again this can be just some comical joke from Oda) and crocodile was thrown in at lvl 6 under Iva. So can't be to sure about Impel down.
I was always under the impression that level 6 was reserved mostly for the really "evil" pirates, those who have done some horrible deeds. Hence why you might not necessarily have to be superstrong to get there.
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I was always under the impression that level 6 was reserved mostly for the really "evil" pirates, those who have done some horrible deeds. Hence why you might not necessarily have to be superstrong to get there.
Thank you for pointing that out, that slipped my mind yea should had mentioned that too. But you can also see it as usually the "evil" pirates who perform these terrifying deeds are extremely strong. Yea but you just prove my point on Iva for that other guy.
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I wonder why Ivankov wasn't put in Level 6. She's one of the leading generals in Dragon's Revolutionary Army, she's super strong, and she can turn you into whatever gender she finds fitting.
Terrifying. :ninja: I would have thrown her ass in Level 6.
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Level 6 prisoners are strong yes but its hard to argue that someone in prison is top tier. Look at people like Roger, Newgate, Shanks etc, truly epic pirates who for all intents and purposes are to the world at large, bad guys. But they are not the sort to be cornered and jailed.
The people in Level 6 are there because they are strong yes, but clearly not strong enough to survive against the Marine's Top Tier. Look at someone like Shikki as evidence of this, the man was a tank, but ultimately could not resist Sengoku and Garp together.
I don't think Ivankov committed any acts worth wiping him / her from history for. Someone like Shiliew (to use the official name :ninja:) however committed heinous atrocities that would shame the Marines and WG if they got out. By this logic Akainu should be in Level 6 as well, but the nature of the Ohara extermination means that his actions were only a small part of a larger slaughter.
One can imagine the kind of brutal acts that guys like Pizzaro, Vasco etc have committed, I mean look at them, not a trace of humanity in them. By that token Crocodile was in Level 6 not only because he betrayed the WG but tried to wipe out an entire country and get his hands on an Ancient Weapon, definitely something you would want to suppress if you were the WG.
Again sorry for the long post, I do tend to ramble a bit…
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That makes me think of Kingdom Hearts, and how half the characters are actually Sora. Though sadly, those aren't just really crappy theories, they're the actual plot…
Regardless, my take on Bonney is that she went after Blackbeard and then Blackbeard totally owned her. Then he thought he would use her high bounty as a means of trading for a ship, not knowing of her connections to the World Government, and not expecting them to send a major force since they were still recuperating from Marineford. But they sent Akainu instead.
I think that Bonney has been around since the Void Century, and she took up residence in South Blue. 200 years ago, she and a pirate crew went up to Skypiea and were sent cloud drifting after doing something terrible. She survived this somehow and, after learning more about the Shandians, returned to the Blue Sea and her hometown in South Blue. Nearly 180 years later, she was taken prisoner by the World Government because of her knowledge of the Void Century and her ability to read the Poneglyphs. Now having all they needed to resurrect the ancient weapons, the World Government ordered the destruction of Ohara and, later, of Robin. However, recently, Bonney escaped the government somehow, quite possibly thanks to Whitebeard. The government, now without a way to read the Poneglyphs and resurrect the weapons, then sought out Robin and Franky so they would still be able to go ahead with their plans.
I have a feeling I'll be able to post this in "Wrongness in General" sooner or later.
dude ur sig the game in which platform ??
That's some real conversation for your ass
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Great chapter, building towards a timeskip. Looking forward to see moar plot movement! :D
Yohohoho!
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@Essam:
dude ur sig the game in which platform ??
Um, wouldn't this be a better question to ask in a PM?
I'll answer anyway because I want more people to know about it. :ninja:
It's Guild Wars 2, which is an upcoming MMORPG for PC. The gifs in my sig were taken from previews of the game on the official site, and my avatar is a piece of concept art for one of the playable races in the game.
Also, according to the site's latest blog post, it's "Now with less forsooth!" which is a policy Mangastream should take up.
Anyway, back to the subject at hand! With Ivankov, I think vhe* let virself* get captured and thrown in Impel Down, for the purpose of "spiriting away" the prisoners to ves* newly formed Level 5.5 and thereby recruiting for Revolutionaries.
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Level 6 prisoners are strong yes but its hard to argue that someone in prison is top tier. Look at people like Roger, Newgate, Shanks etc, truly epic pirates who for all intents and purposes are to the world at large, bad guys. But they are not the sort to be cornered and jailed.
The people in Level 6 are there because they are strong yes, but clearly not strong enough to survive against the Marine's Top Tier. Look at someone like Shikki as evidence of this, the man was a tank, but ultimately could not resist Sengoku and Garp together.
I don't think Ivankov committed any acts worth wiping him / her from history for. Someone like Shiliew (to use the official name :ninja:) however committed heinous atrocities that would shame the Marines and WG if they got out. By this logic Akainu should be in Level 6 as well, but the nature of the Ohara extermination means that his actions were only a small part of a larger slaughter.
One can imagine the kind of brutal acts that guys like Pizzaro, Vasco etc have committed, I mean look at them, not a trace of humanity in them. By that token Crocodile was in Level 6 not only because he betrayed the WG but tried to wipe out an entire country and get his hands on an Ancient Weapon, definitely something you would want to suppress if you were the WG.
Again sorry for the long post, I do tend to ramble a bit…
Keep up the long post''s! At least your rambling isn't trying to make random characters related to other random characters just because they where shown in the same page.
You pretty much said what I was trying to show but failed, something I want to add though; In Impel down Iva said they was waiting for that man's answer (dragon) so that was indicating Iva could had left any time from the prison. I don't know maybe just wanted to throw that out there and see what you think. I still see Iva as close to the top tier of the marines not better but not low enough to get overwhelmed so easily.
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Chapter proves Law is the top supernova outside of the main characters.
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Chapter proves Law is the top supernova outside of the main characters.
You really think Law lounging in the Grand Line overshadows this scene [[URL="http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/73264755/13"]here]???
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Kid/killer, Drake and Hawkins have all been given very strong showings.
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You really think Law lounging in the Grand Line overshadows this scene [[URL="http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/73264755/13"]here]???
Yes, think of it this way, Law is waiting for all these guys to get stomped by BB and by waiting hes improving his chances to make it. also can that overshadow
http://haven-reader.net/index.php?mode=view&series=One+Piece&chapter=Chapter+578&page=13&next=true
and then
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Yes, think of it this way, Law is waiting for all these guys to get stomped by BB and by waiting hes improving his chances to make it. also can that overshadow
http://haven-reader.net/index.php?mode=view&series=One+Piece&chapter=Chapter+578&page=13&next=true
and then
http://haven-reader.net/index.php?mode=view&series=One+Piece&chapter=Chapter+578&page=14&next=truecan kicking someones ass in teh new world overshadow showing up in a submarine, catching luffy and fleeing?
yea your right. i'm sure the admirals and all pirates are shaking in their boots by his display of catch and flee
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Yes, think of it this way, Law is waiting for all these guys to get stomped by BB and by waiting hes improving his chances to make it. also can that overshadow
http://haven-reader.net/index.php?mode=view&series=One+Piece&chapter=Chapter+578&page=13&next=true
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http://haven-reader.net/index.php?mode=view&series=One+Piece&chapter=Chapter+578&page=14&next=trueI think you're just a trifle biased here.
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well, we know that Kid\Law\Hawkings\Drake are those who should be considered the strongest SN.
HAwkings and Drake had so far no interaction with the main chara which sure gives Kid and Law and advantage for being more important in the overall story than the rest.but Kid is more the typical villain guy for Luffy who may have a fight against him, which sure indicates that he`S a bit more badass than the guy who seems to be more of an ally in the future^^
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@Don:
well, we know that Kid\Law\Hawkings\Drake are those who should be considered the strongest SN.
HAwkings and Drake had so far no interaction with the main chara which sure gives Kid and Law and advantage for being more important in the overall story than the rest.but Kid is more the typical villain guy for Luffy who may have a fight against him, which sure indicates that he`S a bit more badass than the guy who seems to be more of an ally in the future^^
True, I get the feeling he might be waiting for luffy so they can fight but hopefully thats not the case, Laws the best. besides who saved the main character? has a submarine ship, a talking bear that knows karatie? LAW!:wub:
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Keep up the long post''s! At least your rambling isn't trying to make random characters related to other random characters just because they where shown in the same page.
You pretty much said what I was trying to show but failed, something I want to add though; In Impel down Iva said they was waiting for that man's answer (dragon) so that was indicating Iva could had left any time from the prison. I don't know maybe just wanted to throw that out there and see what you think. I still see Iva as close to the top tier of the marines not better but not low enough to get overwhelmed so easily.
Very true! Iva seems to simply been bidding his time in "The Land of Dreams" LOL. I don't think we've seen the best of his fighting ability either, remember when he told Kuma he would make him remember fear LOL classic.
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You really think Law lounging in the Grand Line overshadows this scene [[URL="http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/73264755/13"]here]???
There's more than one way to show badassness. Law is postponing his entry in the New World shows what a cool headed bastard he really is.
Kidd can act tough all he wants against the weaklings he encounters but let's see how he does once he's facing a top tier fighter.
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There's more than one way to show badassness. Law is postponing his entry in the New World shows what a cool headed bastard he really is.
Kidd can act tough all he wants against the weaklings he encounters but let's see how he does once he's facing a top tier fighter.
It took Law and Kidd to take down a single pacifista. Kidd's brashness might be his downfall.this guy may enter the brotherhood of the Law
