Pokemon's Fifth Generation

Hiroy

Nice trolling. No wonder the artwork looked a bit akin to Gen1.

Cyber-Robin

New pokemon revealed.

Basurao: Knows Aqua Jet and Uproar and is used by Cheron.

Strangely it looks somewhat like the fish we saw yesterday.

GetsugaZoro

Just saw it also hum we cant really make out what the hell the thing is its does looks like a blue/gray fish ofc its not the one from yesterday since the author actually confessed it was fake XD but yeah it might be alike lol.

With more attention it looks likes a geen/gray fish with rocks all over lol.

Theres also another one that we dont have a clear pic yet but.

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Flux

Emonga, The little Flying Squirrel Pokemon - it's a pre-evo for Pachirisu, right ? right? :'c

GetsugaZoro

Nah why would he loose the flying typing? its the pika clone of this region, just like Pachi was before and Plusle and Minum and Pichu.
Im losing hope theat the new fish is actually Luvdisc evolution.

Anyway finally the scans, the real ones.

Mole looks really cool.

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

Cyber-Robin

I thought somebody confirmed it was the Luvdisc evo. It's even heart shaped lol

Unless it's the Goldeen/Finneon of this gen.

I wish we'd start and see some evos. We've only seen what? 5 evolutions at the most. And that's including Mamanbou. One or two Evos for past Pokemon would be awesome too.

Dryish

The mole looks awfully stupid with too big eyes, a tiny bit too long nose and a pink nose. Makes me think of Rudolph the red nosed reindeer. Otherwise it's okay. The evo we got earlier looked good.

And I'm loving Kurumiru. It's so cute and with it's typing, the leaf will probably stay even when it evolves. Although it's not developed into competitive play really. Those 4x Fire & Flying weaknesses hurt.

Robby

@Dryish:

The mole looks awfully stupid with too big eyes, a tiny bit too long nose and a pink nose.
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You mean like… actual moles?

Hiroy

Needs sunglasses or Brook eyes.

Captain Hypersock

@Hiroy:

Needs sunglasses or Brook eyes.

Even though Brook has no eyes.

Yohohoho~

Dryish

@robbybedfart:

You mean like… actual moles?

Pretty much yeah, but the nose is not that much "exaggerated" in the real nature. The nose isn't that bad, the eye is the thing that my own eye catches first and it bugs me the most. But then again, who has said that every NFE should look great. People have different tastes; Everything can't satisfy everyone.

GetsugaZoro

Moves
Storm - Changes accuracy with the weather
Bug Resistance - Can attack two opponents simultaneously

Abilities
Sand Power - Power of moves raises in sandstorm
Greedy Heart - Heals status of ally
Herbivore - Power is raised when hit by a grass attack

Pretty nice abilities this new pokes have, im probably gonna do a sandstrom team in the game, lol im lokking forward to do a Doryuuzu(mole evolution) and Sandslash double battle.

Capt Haggis

@Cyber-Robin:

I thought somebody confirmed it was the Luvdisc evo. It's even heart shaped lol

Unless it's the Goldeen/Finneon of this gen.

I wish we'd start and see some evos. We've only seen what? 5 evolutions at the most. And that's including Mamanbou. One or two Evos for past Pokemon would be awesome too.

I think we seen like 11 so far.

dream eater evo, flaming ape, chipmunk evo, both stages of the starting bird evo (assuming U.S eagle is part of the line, and even if not he probably an evo), anime leak for 2 starters stage one, the mole evo, Whoever was with him in the battle looked to be evo as well, heart fish and zoroack

Satsuki

siiiiiigh Y'know, I thought I had finally retired from Pokemon. But the more I hear about this the more interested I get. I especially like how they have a different aesthetic for each game (I'm going for White, I prefer natural to industrial).

But tell me something: Why is the White Legendary in Pokemon Black and the Black Legendary in Pokemon White!!? It makes no sense!!!!!

Cyan D. Funk

@Satsuki:

But tell me something: Why is the White Legendary in Pokemon Black and the Black Legendary in Pokemon White!!? It makes no sense!!!!!

Look at the Yin-Yang symbol.

Also, a completely black Pokemon on a completely black cover would be…problematic.

KontinuumShift

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Satsuki

Ohhhhh, now I get it.

grumbles Dammit, I like the White Legendary better, but I don't want the uber-industrial aesthetic of Black. Oh well, give and take . . . .

Badass SnoCone

Wait. Pokemon white has a natural landscape, while pokemon Black has an industrial one?

So these different games are actually going to be different this time around?

Satsuki

So it appears? Each also has an exclusive area: Black City and White Forest.

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/versioncity.shtml

Robby

@Satsuki:

Ohhhhh, now I get it.

grumbles Dammit, I like the White Legendary better, but I don't want the uber-industrial aesthetic of Black. Oh well, give and take . . . .

In general I don't decide which game to do based on the cover legendary… since you don't get those till many many hours in, near the endgame, and I tend to not use the legends ANYWAY... but critters running around in the wild might just be a criteria...

Right now white has this thing
while black has this thing

and since I like the look of the green thing and the abilities it might have, and the nature theme, I'm, probably going to be going with White, myself, even though I like the uhm… "Black" legendary better..

Plus theres always trading.

Nobodyman

Well, that's cool. Not that I needed the extra incentive to get both games, since I always do buy both games, but that's definitely a nice improvement. Certainly better than just playing the same game over again aside from catching a few pokemon you couldn't in the other one.

GetsugaZoro

New geodude(a rock head)? seems it was in the demo it looks like a Gigaisu pre evolution by the design i like it.

Note: its not proved authentic yet since the guy who posted was the first one to see this pokemon in the demo it seems.

loledinmypants

@GetsugaZoro:

http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/gigaiasu_iffy.jpg

New geodude(a rock head)? seems it was in the demo it looks like a Gigaisu pre evolution by the design i like it.

Note: its not proved authentic yet since the guy who posted was the first one to see this pokemon in the demo it seems.

If this, the mole, and the bat are the new cave pokemon, I think I'll be happy. Assuming following generations diversify things by mixing them with geodude/zubat. But seriously, that's a cool-looking geodude replacement. And the bat has potential. The mole is awesome by default by being a mole.

Cyber-Robin

Looks like the prevo for the Rock thing. At first I thought it was another fish lol

tfwtolly

I'm looking forward to the game, as long as they don't fuck over the new stuff.

Dryish

Serebii has some new information up and it is cooool news everyone.

@serebii:

We now have confirmation that Wild Pokémon change depending on the seasons
The ability Sturdy now prevents any form of one hit knock out, leaving just 1 Hit Point
Victini appears at the bottom of the Liberty Garden Tower and will re-appear straight away if you knock it out.

So first of all, the seasons will have an effect. I like that.
Secondly, Sturdy, the oh-so-useless ability, has been changed to be what focus sash is/was. Means that Magnezone will be even more overpowered in the next gen. I like that too.
Last piece of info tells us that we have absolutely no fear of KOing Victini and failing to catch it because of that. No SR's needed for shiny hunters. Great.

Hiroy

With the change in Sturdy, this game probably won't allow trades in games like Soul Silver… unless the current gen's version of Sturdy would remain on the Pokemon even after trade.

It's still a nice change.

GetsugaZoro

Why? its just traded and the ability would just work in the new game and no its not retroactive we know from the start that we can only pass pokemons to BW we cant send them back to the 4gen games, its just like 1 and 2 generation.

Satsuki

@robbybedfart:

In general I don't decide which game to do based on the cover legendary… since you don't get those till many many hours in, near the endgame, and I tend to not use the legends ANYWAY... but critters running around in the wild might just be a criteria...

Right now white has this thing http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/rankurusu.png
while black has this thing http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/gochiruzeru.png

and since I like the look of the green thing and the abilities it might have, and the nature theme, I'm, probably going to be going with White, myself, even though I like the uhm… "Black" legendary better..

Plus theres always trading.

Oh I definitely like the green thing better, so I'm still going with White.

While googling for images I came across the Black/White page on TVTropes. Some of the "imagined" names for the fire pig are hilarious.

Boarbeque
Pignite
Pignition
Hamferno
Piglit
Keroswine
Blazorbake

I think this may be the first time in a while thought that I DON'T jump to use the water starter. That is a FUGLY otter!!!

Robby

@Satsuki:

I think this may be the first time in a while thought that I DON'T jump to use the water starter. That is a FUGLY otter!!!

You… don't like Wotter?
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Cyber-Robin

That last one killed me so XD

Am I the only one who always felt sorry for that one pokemon that was left at Oaks/Elm/Birch/whoever. After you and your rival took them.

And they were always in that poke-ball. Never let back out.

Crossword

At least in this generation all three of them end up getting picked.

Hekti

@Cyber-Robin:

That last one killed me so XD

Am I the only one who always felt sorry for that one pokemon that was left at Oaks/Elm/Birch/whoever. After you and your rival took them.

And they were always in that poke-ball. Never let back out.

Yeah, I always wished the Prof hand it to you over after you beat the Elite 4 or something … like a special reward

Cyber-Robin

@Hekti:

Yeah, I always wished the Prof hand it to you over after you beat the Elite 4 or something … like a special reward

It's probably dead by then.

Yuudi

Funny fact. There were plans in the original games such as red, where you battle Oak and he world have the Pokemon that left. Oak trained it and everything. World have been fun to fight Oak.

Cyber-Robin

Awesome! Looks like TMs don't run out after use

Wagomu

@Cyber-Robin:

Awesome! Looks like TMs don't run out after use

Where did you get that from? If so, then that's awesome.

Hiroy

That would be a nice addition.

Cyber-Robin

I get serebii updates via twitter so I presume its on the site.

Hiroy

I wonder what's the catch. Assuming there is none, this would make things alot easier. Here's hoping they don't change/nerf the good ones.

Robby

@Cyber-Robin:

Awesome! Looks like TMs don't run out after use

Good! That's something they've needed to fix for like, 12 games now.

It was fine having to rebuy some of the store-bought TMs, but incredibly unfair for one of a kind, but useful wild ones to exhausted after one use (like dig) and so I ended up never using any of them, wanting to save them for later. Woe if you gave it to a female critter, then you couldn't even breed it.

That's a big problem fixed, right there.

GetsugaZoro

Yeah awesome i dont have to loose time farming Tms or trading them.

Hiroy

Here's one feature I'm hoping for. Wifi battles with random trainers worldwide or local. Only PBR has this, which is a shame. I'd never buy that.

Crossword

TMs are now re-usable, thank goodness.

Reading up on the season changes, if it really is once a month, there's going to be a lot of finagling with the DS's clock going on.

Supernademan

Dont know if you guys heard but on bulbapedia there was a link that said every pre national dex pokemon will be from generation5.
Heres the link: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_and_White_to_feature_only_Gen_V_Pok%C3%A9mon_pre-National_Dex

Senshi Mizaka

I've been following the updates and info about Black and White for awhile now, but never bothered to give my two cents on them. Might as well start now:

The starters: Not really what I was expecting. But then again, Sugimori always has a way of surprising me with his Pokemon designs. I tend to lean towards the grass type, but I might break tradition this time around, and choose Pokabu.

Seasons changing: I liked the idea of only being able to find certain Pokemon during specific times of the day, so I applaud this new innovation. The fact that the new doe Pokemon changes elements during the seasons is a winner to me, too.

Only Pokemon exclusive to the region being available: I'll admit that I'll probably miss some of the familiar Pokemon that are staples in every game. But, I'll be glad that they're doing away with some of the ones that I've grown tired of seeing, especially Zubat.

Suzume

@Hiroy:

Here's one feature I'm hoping for. Wifi battles with random trainers worldwide or local. Only PBR has this, which is a shame. I'd never buy that.

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/wifi.shtml
Random battles are already confirmed to be in Black and White~ :D

I'm getting more and more hyped about these games. Lots of awesome new Pokemon, changing seasons, no old Pokemon before national dex (I always tend to build my team from the same generation Pokemon anyway), re-usable TMs… I can't wait!

Hiroy

@Suzume:

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/wifi.shtml
Random battles are already confirmed to be in Black and White~ :D

Sold .

GuetaMinute

Sounds great .

Nobodyman

Two new pokemon revealed on serebii.net.

http://serebii.net/index2.shtml

One is a fish that looks sort of like the fake Magikarp lookalike from earlier and the other looks kinda like Buneary.