We need a full trailer up in here soon. Not this bullshit 15 second commercial stuff.
Berserk
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the first two being obvious forgeries?
I mean berserk hasn't had an anime for like 13 years I'd find it easier to believe the world was gonna end in 2012 that berserk getting an anime. BTW looool at your avatar.
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If the first trailer is showing Griffith on the Hill of Swords after his reincarnation… then that means they plan on doing the Conviction Arc/Albion
Mozgus vs Guts, while in the background the mob is yelling to burn Casca as the evil spirits devour them.
Animated.
JESUS CHRISTTTTTTTTTTTT
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I just want to see Emperor Ganishka moving about in colour.
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I'd actually prefer if it was re-animated golden age. It would be glorious.
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Thanks for posting all the videos so far folks, the animation looks very clean so far, and the CG Zodd looks great!
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I too wanna see Mozgus vs Guts animated, Guts vs Zodd round 2 (on the snowy hillside), Berserker Guts vs Grunbeld, and definitely Zodd and Guts vs Ganishka.
Though I want to see nothing animated more than I want to see… Chestnut Puck...
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I too wanna see Mozgus vs Guts animated, Guts vs Zodd round 2 (on the snowy hillside), Berserker Guts vs Grunbeld, and definitely Zodd and Guts vs Ganishka.
Though I want to see nothing animated more than I want to see… Chestnut Puck...
Okay, on the subject of "stuff you embarrassingly want to see animated", I pick Schierke and Isidro bickering
i hope they don't use Isidro's VA from the PS2 game though. Sounds too old.
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My God… there's so many things being announced lately that we thought would never happen... I'm starting to believe in this whole 2012/end bullshit.
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I dunno guys…I'm not sold on this, not yet anyway.
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I have a question about earlier chapter
http://view.thespectrum.net/series/berserk-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+10&page=168
and this
http://view.thespectrum.net/series/berserk-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+10&page=170I dont understand Griffith's look.
he looks evil to people who help him
why did he give that kind of glare?
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As far as I've understood it:
Casca "preffered" Griffith over Guts in the past (which imho Griffith knows)
And now with Casca getting closer to Guts
loosing his body and now loosing the woman that (loved?) him, kinda makes him …glare -
From his prespective, everything is Guts' fault. Casca going for Guts is just adding insult to (grevious) injury.
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now I see..
such ambitious man -
I'm not sure if anybody posted this yet but the fourth commercial is out
…it's a combinations of commercials 1-3, however I here from the Berserk Wikia that the 5th commercial is going to be a special one
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As far as I've understood it:
Casca "preffered" Griffith over Guts in the past (which imho Griffith knows)
And now with Casca getting closer to Guts
loosing his body and now loosing the woman that (loved?) him, kinda makes him …glareFrom his prespective, everything is Guts' fault. Casca going for Guts is just adding insult to (grevious) injury.
i didn't take that at all. i took it as him just hating guts for the sole reason that guts did not follow him and left.
he doesn't care about casca, him being imprisoned wasn't guts fault, ect. he has no resentment towards guts for any of those reasons.
he is basically the super super hot girl that got turned down by someone. and is pissed and wants that person to die. griffith got everything he ever wanted, people always followed him, looked up to him, worshiped him and ect. BUT NOT Guts. and that is why he hates him.
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Griffith had that same look in his eye when he raped the princess and began the downward spiral to begin with. Before the torture and loss of everything.. It all goes back to Guts choosing to leave him and that betrayal.
For all his speeches about having no friends and just underlings, Guts was special.
And then Guts surprassed him as a fighter. And left.
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@RobbyBevard:
Griffith had that same look in his eye when he raped the princess
He raped her? I was pretty sure she wanted to have sex with him:/
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He snuck into her room. She resisted. She said "It's innapropriate, you need to leave." She was the PRINCESS OF THE KINGDOM. Just because she liked Griffith and gave in, doesn't mean it wasn't rape. Same goes for Femto/Caska during the eclipse.
Especially considering that, being the popular war hero he was, Griffith had pretty much risen to a position where he could have married her and cemented everything he wanted, as planned. It was wrong at that moment, they both knew it, but Griffith didn't care.
Guts leaving broke him. The torture that followed made it worse… but it was Guts that broke him, Guts that he thought about only through the years. Caska choosing him later was the final straw that led him towards suicide, sure, but it was still Guts at the center.
It also says something about the breaking of Griffith, given that he's the one that SAVED Caska from that very fate years earlier...
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Why the hell did he leave anyway again? Didn't he regret it once he came rushing back to the Hawk's aid?
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Griffith considered his dream superior to all others, a dream that sweeps up everyone else's individual dream and unites them into one massive picture. As such he sub-consciously considered himself a kind of patriarchal master, a guy who cares for his subordinates but always remembers that they are his subordinates and thus should live and die for him.
! As made clear during that charming scene where Ubik shows Griffith the number of dead bodies he's going to have to walk over to reach the "castle".He was the brilliant leader of the Hawkes, a guy who was told he had the "egg of the king", a master strategist, a genius sword-fighter, handsome to boot, who rose from peasantry to almost marrying the king's daughter. For him it must have been natural to consider everyone else his inferior.
Then came Guts. An aloof, swordsmen who realised he couldn't live under Griffith's shadow. A guy who wanted to surpass Griffith so that they could become equals. He refused to be Griffith's pawn and strove to be his friend (something completely unnatural to Griffith). And he beat him. And he left. And this broke Griffith.
! Basically it can be summed up by how Griffith called the Eclipse. Having just learn Casca wants Guts and not him, he tries to escape from them and the terrible scenario he's left with. He gets to the lake, breaking his arm in the process, and begins to realise that he can't escape the broken body he's been left with. Close to despair, he dreams about his ideal world in which he's the adoring father with Casca as his doting bride and Guts as his controllable son. Shaking away the fantasy he looks up and sees the figure of Guts, reaching out to help him.
! Treating him as Guts' inferior.
! cue screams, behelits, lands made out of faces and general suffering
! Shown again when Griffith condemns the hawkes, he realises Guts was the only corpse he couldn't walk over and thus "Out of thousands of allies and tens of thousands of enemies, only you made me forget my dream"Basically you've got a lot to look forward to in the upcoming chapters.
@thousand Guts was happy to follow Griffith's dream up to that point where he said "The only person I could consider a friend is one who's my equal". Guts, desperate for a friend being the lonely, sexual abused mess he is, thus strove to make his own dream and then approach Griffith as an equal and be bffs.
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Griffith considered his dream superior to all others, a dream that sweeps up everyone else's individual dream and unites them into one massive picture. As such he sub-consciously considered himself a kind of patriarchal master, a guy who cares for his subordinates but always remembers that they are his subordinates and thus should live and die for him.
! As made clear during that charming scene where Ubik shows Griffith the number of dead bodies he's going to have to walk over to reach the "castle".He was the brilliant leader of the Hawkes, a guy who was told he had the "egg of the king", a master strategist, a genius sword-fighter, handsome to boot, who rose from peasantry to almost marrying the king's daughter. For him it must have been natural to consider everyone else his inferior.
Then came Guts. An aloof, swordsmen who realised he couldn't live under Griffith's shadow. A guy who wanted to surpass Griffith so that they could become equals. He refused to be Griffith's pawn and strove to be his friend (something completely unnatural to Griffith). And he beat him. And he left. And this broke Griffith.
! Basically it can be summed up by how Griffith called the Eclipse. Having just learn Casca wants Guts and not him, he tries to escape from them and the terrible scenario he's left with. He gets to the lake, breaking his arm in the process, and begins to realise that he can't escape the broken body he's been left with. Close to despair, he dreams about his ideal world in which he's the adoring father with Casca as his doting bride and Guts as his controllable son. Shaking away the fantasy he looks up and sees the figure of Guts, reaching out to help him.
! Treating him as Guts' inferior.
! cue screams, behelits, lands made out of faces and general suffering
! Shown again when Griffith condemns the hawkes, he realises Guts was the only corpse he couldn't walk over and thus "Out of thousands of allies and tens of thousands of enemies, only you made me forget my dream"Basically you've got a lot to look forward to in the upcoming chapters.
@thousand Guts was happy to follow Griffith's dream up to that point where he said "The only person I could consider a friend is one who's my equal". Guts, desperate for a friend being the lonely, sexual abused mess he is, thus strove to make his own dream and then approach Griffith as an equal and be bffs.
So the root of Griffith's transformation into Femto and the massacre of the Hawks and all this mess…is because Guts wanted to be bffs? Okay...
I don't wanna trivialize it but it's kinda depressing how Guts wanting to be his own man and become close to his one true friend, something very noble and cool, just warped Griffith and ruined everything. I never realized what an asshat Griffith was>.>
It's one thing to massacre all your men, your close companions for many years for power but when that power was already within your reach and you blew it the first time just because you couldn't handle being apart from a guy for a while, that just makes you a lame bitch-_-
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@Thousand:
Why the hell did he leave anyway again? Didn't he regret it once he came rushing back to the Hawk's aid?
pheew mmh..
I think it was along the lines that Gut's wanted to be on an equal level with Griffith which meant following his own dream (whatever that was/is, at least he didn't dream of beeing at a court).
but yeah this is also a bit holey to me, since I don't think Guts would have been gone forever from the band
…likely Griffith just wasn't used to losing ^^edit: ^^ too slow
I think everyone will agree that Griffith is awesome (ly portrayed).. because he's not just in it for the evulz.
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I have a lot of questions regarding Griffith's character.
! First of all, obviously, raping Casca. Wasn't it out of place? Like, for the evulz?
! Then, did he gain some kind of ""humanity"" when he was mixed with Casca's son's body?
! When he "revives" as the hawk of light, does he still retain his powers as Femto? Or he only has his super natural charisma??
! And above all. . .
! Are the God Hand, in fact, servents of God? is God the Idea of Evil? So God=Evil? The same God that those holy knights pray to?
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! @kouch_lee:
! > I have a lot of questions regarding Griffith's character.First of all, obviously, raping Casca. Wasn't it out of place? Like, for the evulz?
Then, did he gain some kind of ""humanity"" when he was mixed with Casca's son's body?
When he "revives" as the hawk of light, does he still retain his powers as Femto? Or he only has his super natural charisma??
And above all. . .
Are the God Hand, in fact, servents of God? is God the Idea of Evil? So God=Evil? The same God that those holy knights pray to?
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Do I need to re-read the hole thing???
!Yes maybe the raping of Casca was supposed to create his new body, and therefore she should have survived the eclipse without guts (but then her getting attacked by random creeps because of her brand makes little sense).
! When becoming a lord of hell evulz is commendable…
! He rather certainly still has all his powers as he beat the uuh cloud-emperor.
! But this whole thing how Griffith got his body is also kinda spongy to me..
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@Thousand:
So the root of Griffith's transformation into Femto and the massacre of the Hawks and all this mess…is because Guts wanted to be bffs? Okay...
Pretty much.
Check the scene where Griffith s talking to the princess by the water fountain during the royal ball again, and Guts overhears it. That's pretty much the linchpin to the whole dynamic, particularly the fact that… Guts overheard it. If he hadn't heard the noble speech he probably would have been content to just be a sword swinger the rest of his life.
But it boils down to Griffith being surpassed by someone that was his inferior... and the one inferior he truly relied on trusted and deep down, liked, at that. Losing the 1 on 1 duel screwed with him.
If say, Judeu had left the Hawks for the exact same reasons, don't think it would have mattered to him at all.
If Guts had JUST beaten him in a sword fight, or had just left in the middle of the night without a word, or even if Guts had been killed at some point, he might not have reacted so poorly, but it still would have eaten at him.
I have a lot of questions regarding Griffith's character.
Its been forever since I properly read the manga, I may give it another go soon with this anime adpatation coming, but…
! First of all, obviously, raping Casca. Wasn't it out of place? Like, for the evulz?
That's open to interpretation, but that was probably his way of showing Guts "I'm number 1 again." Since… he was looking at Guts the entire time, not Caska. (And had the SAME look in his eyes as when he was with the Princess.) Caska was inconsequential in the equation, anything that was Gut's would have done..
! Then, did he gain some kind of ""humanity"" when he was mixed with Casca's son's body?
! When he "revives" as the hawk of light, does he still retain his powers as Femto? Or he only has his super natural charisma??
! And above all. . .
! Are the God Hand, in fact, servents of God? is God the Idea of Evil? So God=Evil? The same God that those holy knights pray to?
. . .Like I said, its been a while since I read it in full, but That's actually all stuff that's still being revealed slowly and piecemeal, but you seem to have the likely gist of it.
! But all the Griffiths are the same. He has an astral body and a land body. So wavy haired pretty Griffith is the same as Femto. Same way Slan takes over a pile of troll guts to have an earthbound form. There might be more to Griffith's part of it and some escaped humanity, because there's certainly SOME point to the base form being Guts' son, but that's not entirely clear.
But all in all, thats one of the places where Berserk excels. The ambiguity. The characters aren't entirely black and white, their motivations not entirely one sided. There's some emotion and irrationality to it, too.
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From what I can remember Griffith felt betrayed by guts, cause it seemed that when guts challenged griffith and won, that's where everything started to go downhill.
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@RobbyBevard:
But all in all, thats one of the places where Berserk excels. The ambiguity. The characters aren't entirely black and white, their motivations not entirely one sided. There's some emotion and irrationality to it, too.
Exactly this. To the point where someone could think that Griffith is not even evil while Guts is CLEARLY a crazy psycopath with SERIOUS mental issues.
It's awesome how this is now an "adventure" kind of manga, with a gang of protagonists and everything. . .then you think that all of them except for Isidoro and the Elfs are pretty much fucked up people that could not even fit in Arkham fucking Asylum.
Yeah, I fucking love this series.
Too bad I think Guts fate is soooooooooo dark and that he is not gonna achieve anything in the end and I'm gonna feel so bad when that happens, but hey, that will be part of Berserk greatness.
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How's serpico f'd up?
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Well, he was pretty much Farnese's bitch, let her do all of her crazy stuff, burned his mother on her behalf. . .
We could say that he is fucked up because of Farnese's fucked upness.
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Let's not forget that they have issues of being attracted to each other despite Serpico knowing that they're half-siblings!
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Good points there fellas. I actually forgot about those things happening. I would re-read this series but there are series i'm trying to catch up to and re-reading something isn't on my to do list ATM.
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I should also re-read this series. There are so many points I need to remember.
Like Flora and Schierke talking about magic and fate and all those things. That was hellishly complicated.
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Despite the fact that the series IS ambiguous.
I could never see Griffith as ANYTHING but an antagonist.
Gutts might be fucking insane but his actions are essentially heroic.
As morbid as some of them may be :V
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Well the fate thing is a cornerstone of the series, it's all about Guts defying his fate as a branded.
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Well, people DO see Griffith as a good guy. And he did slay the Ganishka empire, who were all a bunch of crazy mofos. Why did he create the fantasia world is beyond my comprehension, though. . .
And seeing Guts nemesis in this story, considering that the berserk armor is his triumph card, which leaves him almost dead every time he uses it, and that it isn't even enough to defeat the strongest Apostles, going after reality/fate/dimension altering GODS is a lost war from the very beggining. . .
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Well, people DO see Griffith as a good guy. And he did slay the Ganishka empire, who were all a bunch of crazy mofos. Why did he create the fantasia world is beyond my comprehension, though. . .
And seeing Guts nemesis in this story, considering that the berserk armor is his triumph card, which leaves him almost dead every time he uses it, and that it isn't even enough to defeat the strongest Apostles, going after reality/fate/dimension altering GODS is a lost war from the very beggining. . .
Well, since the Godhand is now in the physical world, it will probably be (slightly) easier. This is all under the assumption that they can now be "killed" permanently, of course. He might even get some sort of upgrade in Elfhelm… If they ever actually manage to get there.
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Berserk is by far the most complex shit I've ever read. I don't understand a damn thing in the story pretty much. But in some strange way, that's why I love it. I feel alienated when I read it even tho I know these characters, it's a strange feeling which fits Berserk's atmosphere perfectly.
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I love how Berserk is actually a manga one can have intelligent conversation about.
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Watching the anime right now. Currently in episode 15.
I'm loving the story so far, it is clearly well thought out.
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i'm sorry to ask this but when exactly this manga become really good.. i've read the first arc of this manga very long time ago but don't find it very interesting. it feels like just a normal bloody killing and raping seinen.. so i stop but this couple of years when people talk about good manga there is always somebody will bring up berserk. so i'm curious and thinking to re-read again but at the same time i afraid that its not as good as people claimed to be.. Afraid that people just like it because of its violent not because of the story.. sorry for my bad english. thanks
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i'm sorry to ask this but when exactly this manga become really good.. i've read the first arc of this manga very long time ago but don't find it very interesting. it feels like just a normal bloody killing and raping seinen.. so i stop but this couple of years when people talk about good manga there is always somebody will bring up berserk. so i'm curious and thinking to re-read again but at the same time i afraid that its not as good as people claimed to be.. Afraid that people just like it because of its violent not because of the story.. sorry for my bad english. thanks
I don't know how far you got before, but once the flashback begins you are in for one of the greatest combinations of excellent narrative and art ever put into manga form. You really should give it another try.
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i'm sorry to ask this but when exactly this manga become really good.. i've read the first arc of this manga very long time ago but don't find it very interesting. it feels like just a normal bloody killing and raping seinen.. so i stop but this couple of years when people talk about good manga there is always somebody will bring up berserk. so i'm curious and thinking to re-read again but at the same time i afraid that its not as good as people claimed to be.. Afraid that people just like it because of its violent not because of the story.. sorry for my bad english. thanks
What do you mean by 'first arc'? did you read the first 8 chapters? Mostly everybody agrees that the story (yes the story, not just the blood and gore etc…) gets really enticing when the flashback begins around chapter 10 (and continues on for like 90 chapters - that truly is an incredible arc.)
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I don't know how far you got before, but once the flashback begins you are in for one of the greatest combinations of excellent narrative and art ever put into manga form. You really should give it another try.
What do you mean by 'first arc'? did you read the first 8 chapters? Mostly everybody agrees that the story (yes the story, not just the blood and gore etc…) gets really enticing when the flashback begins around chapter 10 (and continues on for like 90 chapters - that truly is an incredible arc.)
thanks for the info.. i read it really long time ago.. don't quite remember where the story go after Gut defeated the king that turn to monster and the princes s hate Gut because he kill her father even if Gut save her live..
so the the flashback that you mean is Guts flashback? his childhood, how he joint Band of Hawk, bff with griffith?
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the first few chapters are very dark , but it becomes better and better after that
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I honestly didn't care for the chapters pre-timeskip very much either.
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OK, thanks you very much… BTW, new anime look very nice
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There's a reason the anime cut the first three volumes down to a single episode, and basically focused on the flashback. That's the good stuff.
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Hard to get too excited by these ads, personally. They're uber short, and it looks like it'll just be a retread of what the first anime already covered… The only way it would be worth watching is if it were without all the cuts the original anime made, CG or not.
I do love all the English comments on the nicovideos, though. Seeing all the typical Japanese statements, followed by "MY BODY IS NOT FUCKING READY" coming in and overlapping all of them was worth a good chuckle.
You know how it goes in AP boss… if it's remotely decent everyone will shit all over it.
If it's mediocre they'll praise it.
And if it's quirky it's perfect.
(Bad shit just gets trolled :V)
Truest statement ever.
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i'm sorry to ask this but when exactly this manga become really good.. i've read the first arc of this manga very long time ago but don't find it very interesting. it feels like just a normal bloody killing and raping seinen.. so i stop but this couple of years when people talk about good manga there is always somebody will bring up berserk. so i'm curious and thinking to re-read again but at the same time i afraid that its not as good as people claimed to be.. Afraid that people just like it because of its violent not because of the story.. sorry for my bad english. thanks
I hate violent, devil, gore..but I really like the story of Berserk.
figures … ?