I really don't understand why you had to add Perona.
without AGOG, this thread would've well, died, or just become a battlefield for Hancock's and Jinbei's supporters.
I mean, no one really consider her as a possibility.
I really don't understand why you had to add Perona.
without AGOG, this thread would've well, died, or just become a battlefield for Hancock's and Jinbei's supporters.
I mean, no one really consider her as a possibility.
@Cyan:
No Hitler/Mancock/Spandam's shoes/Pandaman option?
Gimme pics and I'll make some.
This is something I can acutally agree with. Though Hancock's entire character has been based off slavery and the world nobles. So when I think celestial dragons. I think Boa Hancock.
I don't know why people think that so much… There are OTHER slaves, you know... People like Jean Bart and the Boa sisters as well as probably half the Sun Pirates.
I just don't see how Boa Hancock is synonymous with "Tenryuubito" as everyone says, she's not really an important player at all. In fact, she got like less than a page about her past concerning what really happened there... A "page" that didn't even do anything, from my point of view.
You'll have to expand and elaborate why this is like this for me to understand the point.
Here are 2 facts.
Boa doesnt care about her island and her inherritans.
Alright. FACT: Oda does.
Boa doesnt care about her title.
Alright. Oda does though since he didn't have her outright revoke it herself.
Why would Oda but those 2 things and a sad past from the marines in to this girl and still want her to be part of the WG.
What the heck are you trying to state here?
Anyhow, I'm taking a guess here… He's doing it so that the smarter bunch will actually accept such a cheap plot device and then making the dumber bunch fall for the pointless jitter.
''To creat more drama for when shes not going to join and stays back at an island with a mask on her face and a be part of the wg (who in her child years fkd her up) and cant do what she really wants'' Nu-UH
Yes, you got the idea of it, but then lost it…Actually, we don't know what she really wants, but we can assume it is to "have her pointless stupidity removed so that she can show herself to the people; which is only her own problem."
Oda doesn't need to care about that, he just has to have her say, "I was a slave!!" with courage and then woo the whole crowd and continue on being the "strong" Empress that she's cranked out to be. Like in SW she decided to try her luck at, and eventually make it.
Hes doing that so Boa and luffy's crew can beat up those guys.
Eh? What?
I don't really want to understand what this is talking about, and please try to quote my posts; don't be lazy… :getlost:
The WG Arent going to Kill the whole Island. there are a LOT of innocent ppl there who did nothing wrong.
You mean a whole lot of PIRATES there that DID SOMETHING for the past thousand of years (exaggeration on my part.).
All youre speculations about Perona are even more Bullshit abnd is based on 1 thing. Why the Hell would i wanna talk to you about how boa will lose her title?.
Because that's what it boils down to having Boa Hancock even join the crew, no? I mean, I am patient here and wouldn't mind having this debate; no skin off my bones, again!
Thats an argument that can be used on ALL things inclusive all the crewmembers that DID join.
Well, why not take it up a notch and just state that it can be used on EVERYTHING, like the Bellamy T.K.O. that was built up like a motherfucker and looked hella nice when it was shown…Or, how every single thing happened, to date, that wasn't even related to the SH crew at all... Why not just categorize it by means of the plot, not the idea that "joinage" follows a trend.
They were already safe do u really think after 2 weeks they are going to send an fleet to Luffy? To a submarine they cant even find. With Jimbei on it and batteling them? ( i think they got enough on their head with BB & revo's)
They easily could stay on an unamed island for a while.
This is just silly… Do you honestly believe in this? Seriously, rethink this whole idea please, I have no need to make fun of you when you make it this easy; create SOMETHING at least.
that isnt shit. Oda made shure the readers know they left the battle saftely
In other words, I meant to state that the way that he did was shit, the way he just HAD them appear rather than expanding on… He didn't bother to explain how, he just had it happen. Same with the way Hancock made it to Amazon Lilly, he never explained that neither.
Sorry for the double post…
@Captain:
Show some spirit for your Strawhat candidates! Feel free to use these in your avatar, sig, whatever.
http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u343/CaptainHypersock/MiniBoaHancock.jpghttp://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u343/CaptainHypersock/MiniJinbei.jpghttp://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u343/CaptainHypersock/MiniPerona.jpg
You ought to transform my Buggy avatar into those colors, might be interesting…
@Cyan:
No Hitler/Mancock/Spandam's shoes/Pandaman option?
I've never even seen what color his shoes were… Anyone know?
@JERK:
Actually it would be defined as these things, and not romance at all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/satire
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/joke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plot_device
It depends on what her "point of view" suggests; she may take it as "romance" and we read it as this stuff, at least most of us would…
I'm not defining it as what element it would be, that's another day and another headache.
It's what she may feel, or conform around-- that's what I was trying to define it.
Gimme pics and I'll make some.
@Gr€€dy:
[qimg]http://www.dailycomedy.com/images/jokes/b/adolf-hitler.jpg[/qimg]
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I don't know why people think that so much… There are OTHER slaves, you know... People like Jean Bart and the Boa sisters as well as probably half the Sun Pirates.
I just don't see how Boa Hancock is synonymous with "Tenryuubito" as everyone says, she's not really an important player at all. In fact, she got like less than a page about her past concerning what really happened there... A "page" that didn't even do anything, from my point of view.
You'll have to expand and elaborate why this is like this for me to understand the point.
Alright. FACT: Oda does.
Really? i think u gotta ask Oda himself UNless u can think for oda
Alright. Oda does though since he didn't have her outright revoke it herself.
Coz he want to build up drama
What the heck are you trying to state here?
What the heck is this comment?
Anyhow, I'm taking a guess here… He's doing it so that the smarter bunch will actually accept such a cheap plot device and then making the dumber bunch fall for the pointless jitter.
Hmm shonen excists of cheap plot devices. seriously i dont know where youre going to with these posts
Yes, you got the idea of it, but then lost it…Actually, we don't know what she really wants, but we can assume it is to "have her pointless stupidity removed so that she can show herself to the people; which is only her own problem."
And the islands problem, but hey Oda cares for the island
Oda doesn't need to care about that, he just has to have her say, "I was a slave!!" with courage and then woo the whole crowd and continue on being the "strong" Empress that she's cranked out to be. Like in SW she decided to try her luck at, and eventually make it.
Jokign right?
Eh? What?
eh nothing
I don't really want to understand what this is talking about, and please try to quote my posts; don't be lazy… :getlost:
I dont understand u either
You mean a whole lot of PIRATES there that DID SOMETHING for the past thousand of years (exaggeration on my part.).
hmm how did the island do it without hancock. shes only 28 years. SO ure saying there was some1 before Boa that was shishibukai.
Because that's what it boils down to having Boa Hancock even join the crew, no? I mean, I am patient here and wouldn't mind having this debate; no skin off my bones, again!
Seriously WTF
Well, why not take it up a notch and just state that it can be used on EVERYTHING, like the Bellamy T.K.O. that was built up like a motherfucker and looked hella nice when it was shown…Or, how every single thing happened, to date, that wasn't even related to the SH crew at all... Why not just categorize it by means of the plot, not the idea that "joinage" follows a trend.
Why are u using it then? to try and ''blow of hanckock for SH pirates'' thing?
This is just silly… Do you honestly believe in this? Seriously, rethink this whole idea please, I have no need to make fun of you when you make it this easy; create SOMETHING at least.
I have created many things
In other words, I meant to state that the way that he did was shit, the way he just HAD them appear rather than expanding on… He didn't bother to explain how, he just had it happen. Same with the way Hancock made it to Amazon Lilly, he never explained that neither.
so he doesnt need to explain why hanckock will join, great thinking of you.
But seriously Wtf
Show some spirit for your Strawhat candidates! Feel free to use these in your avatar, sig, whatever.
These are awesome. Thanks!
Can you do me a favor? Huh can you???
Stop being a dumbass and actually add the quote tags, do it properly… Thanks!
I'm not going to fucking COPY AND PASTE your shit because you're too lazy to properly quote people.
grr agog ANGRY !
Can you do me a favor? Huh can you???
Stop being a dumbass and actually add the quote tags, do it properly… Thanks!
I'm not going to fucking COPY AND PASTE your shit because you're too lazy to properly quote people.
So? what ure going at? U cant do shit about it
So? what ure going at? U cant do shit about it
Of course, I cannot do anything about it, I can only hope that your "hamster wheel" magically starts moving even though the HAMSTER, itself, died ages ago.
You catch my drift…
Here are 2 facts.
Boa doesnt care about her island and her inherritans.
Then she's not really straw hat material.
If Perona gets shit for leaving Moria and his crew (who are until proven otherwise evil) then Hancock should get as much shit if not more if she doesn't care about the fate of her people.
Of course, I cannot do anything about it, I can only hope that your "hamster wheel" magically starts moving even though the HAMSTER, itself, died ages ago.
You catch my drift…
grr agog tries to be witty but fails at it
@Cyan:
grr agog tries to be witty but fails at it
Yup, I'm not classy enough for wit-iture…
:sad:
OneManDumbass… WHO CANNOT QUOTE TO SAVE HIS LIFE...
Start doing proper quoting or I'll fucking force massive "Wall-of-Text" attacks on you.
Of course, I cannot do anything about it, I can only hope that your "hamster wheel" magically starts moving even though the HAMSTER, itself, died ages ago.
You catch my drift…
Are u sure coz my HAMSTER is pretty much alive.
If u catch my drift…
so now the proverbial "hamster" is the topic…
consider this your warning.
Indeed Agog
And it's the fact that u already know how things are going before it is actually happening wich scares me.
All youre theories & speculations turned out to be true!
Since u cant convince me with ure theories & specualtions on Perona joining.
U cant convince me of Hancock NOT joining.
Damn 368 pages! I would like to see all your reactions if as i think, among all the characters you mentioned, none join the crew.
Damn 368 pages! I would like to see all your reactions if as i think, among all the characters you mentioned, none join the crew.
That happens, everyone who has posted in this thread commits mass suicide.
so including you huh:P
We need a new pol between Boa and jinbei
Damn 368 pages! I would like to see all your reactions if as i think, among all the characters you mentioned, none join the crew.
If somebody completely unexpected joined, I'd just shrug and accept it.
so including you huh:P
We need a new pol between Boa and jinbei
why not add perona just to laugh when it only has one vote,
Besides your forgetting bon-chan and hatchan it's still possible
why not add perona just to laugh when it only has one vote,
Besides your forgetting bon-chan and hatchan it's still possible
But Mr. 2 can't leave Impel Down! Everybody will get lonely. :(
Hatchan just never has a reason to join… Why even include him?
He has no dream relevant to joining them. He has no worthwhile position either. He offers little plot progress at all with his introduction. And, above all others, he's obviously a retired pirate for a reason.
Why bring all this stuff to shame and just let him join?
@OneManCollectiblez,
You could address the stuff, you know…
Damn 368 pages! I would like to see all your reactions if as i think, among all the characters you mentioned, none join the crew.
I'd move on with my life.
I like how Hancock is facing the LEFT, Jinbei the MIDDLE, and Perona the RIGHT…
It's fascinating, if you consider the idea that it represents something... As well as the color-code that was selected...
I like how Hancock is facing the LEFT, Jinbei the MIDDLE, and Perona the RIGHT…
It's fascinating, if you consider the idea that it represents something... As well as the color-code that was selected...
You talking about the little support posters? Complete coincidence, I assure you.
You talking about the little support posters? Complete coincidence, I assure you.
Yeah, about them… I just realized they faced a particular direction and thought you could "figure" what it means, if anything... It seems, though, that's a coincidence...
No, clearly the fact the Hancock is facing the left represents the past. Jinbei facing the center symbolizes the present. Perona facing the right is the future. That's past, present, and future. That's three things. Three is a number. Numbers are used in theories. AGOG makes theories. AGOG is a moron. So is Blackbeard. Blackbeard has three flintlocks.
What I'm getting at of course is that Dadan has the Cerberus fruit and will use it to revive Ace.
@Cyan:
Dadan has the Cerberus fruit
I like where this is going.
I really liked the idea of putting the favorite candidate in the signature!
I figured I might as well contribute something new to this topic. Glad you like it.
Dangit, I can't wait for Oda to temporarily put this thread to rest.
Dangit, I can't wait for Oda to temporarily put this thread to rest.
Me neither. Even if I were proved wrong, I'd still be glad that finally we got a resolution.
It's strange, because all other past "New Crewmate" threads (that preceded Franky and Brook) did not get me so involved as this one. I guess I really like Hancock's character. There's something in the possibility of a feminine, yet powerful and strong, character that makes me like her. It's rare to see females in such a role.
I figured I might as well contribute something new to this topic. Glad you like it.
Dangit, I can't wait for Oda to temporarily put this thread to rest.
It won't be put to rest until the crew reaches a certain lucky number of ten.
When that happens, the only thing you can do is SPECULATE that there will be another character joining, when the manga, the author, and everything about that story is 100% against you.
When and after two more people join, this thread should die forever!
We're only given an unreliable insight that a "single" boss character will join the crew, never being assured when the final person would join.
It's strange, because all other past "New Crewmate" threads (that preceded Franky and Brook) did not get me so involved as this one. I guess I really like Hancock's character. There's something in the possibility of a feminine, yet powerful and strong, character that makes me like her. It's rare to see females in such a role.
Hehe.
Even on newest OP game, project jet.
I hear Hancock is included on Femme fatale/All girls team along with Nami, Robin, and Vivi.
Even the dull game creator know Hancock have better nakama sense rather than including Perona on that team.
I don't know why people think that so much… There are OTHER slaves, you know... People like Jean Bart and the Boa sisters as well as probably half the Sun Pirates.
I just don't see how Boa Hancock is synonymous with "Tenryuubito" as everyone says, she's not really an important player at all. In fact, she got like less than a page about her past concerning what really happened there... A "page" that didn't even do anything, from my point of view.
You'll have to expand and elaborate why this is like this for me to understand the point.
.
Why does Hancock have such a mean and rude attitude to people ? The World Nobles
Why does Hancock hate all men except Luffy? The World Nobles
Why does Hancock grow to love luffy? Because he punched a World Noble.
Who fed Hancock her devil fruit which was responsible for giving her powers? The World Nobles.
Why does Hancock hide the truth from her people? Because she doesn't wan to be weak ever again, because of what was done to her by the World Nobles
Everything we know about her is connected to the World Nobles. So when I read in a flashback chapter that a world noble is coming to visit. I start thinking Boa Hancock..
Why does Hancock have such a mean and rude attitude to people ? The World Nobles
I don't think so, it was because she felt insecure over her personal understanding of criticism… Though, you could blame the World Nobles for that, but it was her own choice to act that way, due to her naive nature.
Why does Hancock hate all men except Luffy? The World Nobles
No, it was because of the laws of the Kuja– she was raised to feel superior to men from birth. World Nobles only added to it, that's all... She was this way long before they influenced her.
Why does Hancock grow to love luffy? Because he punched a World Noble.
Not really, I would state it more that his attitude was the way it was.
Who fed Hancock her devil fruit which was responsible for giving her powers? The World Nobles.
Why does Hancock hide the truth from her people? Because she doesn't wan to be weak ever again, because of what was done to her by the World Nobles
These are her problems more so then anything else. Again, she's not the only Boa that had this happen… She may have been the oldest of the three, but surely there's no reason to believe she had it the worst. Furthermore, there ought to be several hundreds worse off than Boa Hancock, slaves way more notable and worthwhile than her.
Everything we know about her is connected to the World Nobles. So when I read in a flashback chapter that a world noble is coming to visit. I start thinking Boa Hancock..
I disagree… Everything is connected to her being a Kuja, the World Nobles only made her in tune to do stuff that extremists would do; an "extreme" Kuja.
She's always going to be a Kuja... Furthermore, she shares all of this with two others; Boa Marigold and Sandersonia... Nothing specific that Hancock has. The Empress title, though, a reflection of KUJA criteria, is hers to have alone.
While these are interesting points, they are assumptions and statements on a puzzle we don't have all the pieces for yet. We only know a bit of her past and it needs to be explored fully before we can say if it's because of her Kuja upbringing (something we know nothing about when it comes to her own life) or because of the treatment of the World Nobles, but so far, from what the manga has shown us, Everything that has made her what she is, is a result from her time as a slave of the world nobles.
Take your own point of view on it, but that's personally what I see.
Take your own point of view on it, but that's personally what I see.
Out of the 3, I think Perona is more befitting to join the crew.
So I'ma go for her.
CBF explaining, AGOG has probably explained a million times in one of his many theories.
I am all for Pandaman.
Pandaman is Hitler of OP universe.
We're only given an unreliable insight that a "single" boss character will join the crew, never being assured when the final person would join.
If my memory serves, wasn't it just stated that "A former boss character will go with them to the new world", so it wasn't even clear whether he/she actually joins the crew. Maybe just hitching a ride to the New World?
can someone make me one of those character support signs with nobody in it
The next crew mate WILL be kaidou
With the last chapter it is obvious Hancock or other Kuja joins o.ó…
This discussion is getting pointless again xD
While these are interesting points, they are assumptions and statements on a puzzle we don't have all the pieces for yet. We only know a bit of her past and it needs to be explored fully before we can say if it's because of her Kuja upbringing (something we know nothing about when it comes to her own life) or because of the treatment of the World Nobles, but so far, from what the manga has shown us, Everything that has made her what she is, is a result from her time as a slave of the world nobles.
Take your own point of view on it, but that's personally what I see.
Dude, she lived twelve years of her life. Furthermore, we were shown the basics of the Kuja lifestyle.
Are you being serious here, really?
I can't even see this as a fact, Hancock was influenced from when she was a Kuja, just like how Robin was influenced from when she was an 8 year old brat or less…
Dude, she lived twelve years of her life. Furthermore, we were shown the basics of the Kuja lifestyle.
Are you being serious here, really?
I can't even see this as a fact, Hancock was influenced from when she was a Kuja, just like how Robin was influenced from when she was an 8 year old brat or less…
If that's your view, then alright. I see something different, but I'm not going to shove it down your throat..
OneManCollectiblez…
How can he keep Amazon Lilly safe when the only way is to have the World Government "contain" a peace treaty of some sorts that wouldn't have the WG bloodlust after them?Please, try like all others try to come up with a bunch of speculations that try and prove some "sense" of how this may even happen. You'll be another failure hoping that there's some event which allows Boa Hancock to leave, yet there hasn't been a single one.
its acutally you guys against hancock that are being ignorant assholes.
we have came up with plenty of examples of how the island could be protected or resloved. we have came up with examples on why it might not matter if it isn't protected due to WG having more important things on their plate right now than worrying about AL. We have came up with plenty of stuff.
Yet all you guys ever do is say NOPE, your wrong, second she joins a nuke comes out of the goats ass and blows AL up.
your comments on how her life was not influenced by world nobles
it is clear her life and personality ahve been altered big time by world nobles. she is hiding her true self and not showing her emotions, nyon says this clear as day. her hatred of men? of course it was world nobles. Look at the rest of the amazonians, they are fascinated up the ass by a male. they were yes going to kill him due to him being a man but there was no hatred at all.
@AGOG:
Dude, she lived twelve years of her life. Furthermore, we were shown the basics of the Kuja lifestyle.
Are you being serious here, really?
I can't even see this as a fact, Hancock was influenced from when she was a Kuja, just like how Robin was influenced from when she was an 8 year old brat or less…
we have no idea on what her dreams and goals were when young. and how they were changed by being a slave. heck i could see her as being still in a prison. she has to now not only keep her status as a warlord but also remain empress of her people in order to protect them. We dont' know what she truly wants to do. Maybe she wanted to become a pirate so much because she wanted to see the world. not a stretch for a person that grew up on a isolated island with no contact with outside world. Yet then she is captured and enslaved and when freed she is now she is trapped as the leader, and a leader hiding a secret from all her people.
its acutally you guys against hancock that are being ignorant assholes.
we have came up with plenty of examples of how the island could be protected or resloved. we have came up with examples on why it might not matter if it isn't protected due to WG having more important things on their plate right now than worrying about AL. We have came up with plenty of stuff.
Yet all you guys ever do is say NOPE, your wrong, second she joins a nuke comes out of the goats ass and blows AL up.
Yep yep. But all those beautyful theories we have on how Boa could lose here titles and join the crew are not valid for Peronafans. Coz it will make the chancef Perona joining from 1% to 0%:P