NAh it wont work coz oda isnt predictable!
Next Crewmate Discussion (Vol. 4)
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Despite the raging well..rage in this thread, compared to the other next nakama threads on sites like Mangahelpers, One Manga and Mangastream. We acutally are able to toss some good ideas around and have a discussion.
And on Jinbei: I like him, but there just is nothing about him right now, he's just waiting in the wings for when we get to fishman island. When that comes, this thread will be swarmed with Jinbei fanboys and supports.
Me too, because if Hancock doesn't join, Team Jinbei is getting a new roomie..
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Despite the raging well..rage in this thread, compared to the other next nakama threads on sites like Mangahelpers, One Manga and Mangastream. We acutally are able to toss some good ideas around and have a discussion.
And on Jinbei: I like him, but there just is nothing about him right now, he's just waiting in the wings for when we get to fishman island. When that comes, this thread will be swarmed with Jinbei fanboys and supports.
Me too, because if Hancock doesn't join, Team Jinbei is getting a new roomie..
True True. If she doesnt join i am all Jimbei
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- Problems at FI who is the next station and Jinbei will play a major role
What prevents Hancock for joining are the problems at Amazon Lily, who is the current station. Hancock will play a mjaor role now.
- Promise to Ace and respect towards Luffy
Total devotion to Luffy, to the point of risking her title and island for him.
- Arlong thing which would include Nami as well
Tenryuubito thing which would include Luffy as well.
- Could have a job if a helmsman is needed
Could be quartermaster, which is needed.
- No status and major criminal
Status in fragile situation; becomes major criminal and traitor whithout it.
- Is stated as unique fishmen compared to others
Is stated as the strongest warrior of her island.
- Since ID the deeper relationship toward Luffy and is interacting far more with him now
Since Amazon Lily part 1 has been following and protecting him in any ways that are available.
Once again Boa has more or less the same damn chances. And if you say no she has more cuz of 1 chapter sad past and love sickness. I can simply say she has no role in the crew and still her status.
You may imagine whatever past or personality for Jinbei, but the fact is that Hancock's past and personality are not imaginary.
Role in the crew? You mean, like archeologist, sniper or swordsman?
I won't point the status, after all you believe it will never change. So, I'll just wait for things to change, because they can.
And now you would spam your theories how this all will be shown in the future and lead to a certain shit. Problem is you can do it with each and every other character as well who somehow had an interaction with Luffy. Hell that's why I said for fun Croc and Moria.
And how is supporting Jinbei not based on wild theories? Everything you pointed are uncertain things that depends heavily on what direction the story will go towards. Guess what: Hancock's status is also an uncertain thing that depends heavily on where the story goes. Why are Jinbei's chances better than hers, if she has more to offer right now than him?
If you a neutral like others here around… you would say yeah jinbei and Boa has more or less the same chances and we have to see what will happen at AL. But no this whole damn thread is spammed with theories and everytime you say something against a theory or something for a other character it is wrong.
I've said time and time again their chances are more or less the same. Indeed, at some point I even admited that Jinbei's chances were higher, but the situation has changed. Since then, Hancock came back heavily into the main story and we returned to Amazon Lily; two things you denied would happen.
The only reason I "spam" theories about Hancock is because I support her, it has nothing to do with "chances". I've also tried to put theories on Jinbei, but guess what: we don't know his story, his objectives or even what must be done for him to join the crew. We know all of that for Hancock, so it's a lot easier to see her joining the crew.
And it's my right to support whoever I wish. You once said that discussing with me was fun. I've not changed my way of acting a bit since then, the only thing that changed was my opinion that Jinbei had the higher chances.
Theories about what will happen next or whatever isn't a fact. And Narutossss is right with saying that this is retared here and like a fan ficition thread
THe only retarded ones are those who come to a thread they think is retarded just to complain it's retarded. Without complainers, this thread is much better.
True True. If she doesnt join i am all Jimbei
As am I.
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What a drag man. You don't get it… Forget about it and I let you SPECULATE the same things over and over again and you let me complain over and over again.
You have no damn fact that something major will happen at AL now like a war or a sudden change which will let Boa join for sure. Hell you speculate there will be something like an attack and I can say 2 weeks have passed and nothing happened and so it
And if you don't get it that all you are saying is just mere speculation and theories than I don't know.
I have nothing against speculations but not if the thread is already spammed with the same shit over and over again and nothing new is added. or people saying hey AGOG you are dumb with theories but on the other way are doing some crazy theories with no base as well.
But hey post whatever you want but don't complain if I complain.
And once again. Your Boa has nothing besides a 1 chapter flashback if you want to know the true. The rest you did were speculations. Same for Jinbei. So there is no She/he has better chances. It is just about the wanking.
And this thread let me dislike any of the candidates now cuz of this really bad theories
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What a drag man. You don't get it… Forget about it and I let you SPECULATE the same things over and over again and you let me complain over and over again.
No, YOU don't get it. This is a thread about speculation, since it deals with trying to guess the future. I have every right of being here speculating my ass off. Find a thread about complaining for yourself, because this is not it.
And once again. Your Boa has nothing besides a 1 chapter flashback if you want to know the true. The rest you did were speculations. Same for Jinbei. So there is no She/he has better chances. It is just about an loving
And Jinbei doesn't even have that in his favor.
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THe only retarded ones are those who come to a thread they think is retarded just to complain it's retarded. Without complainers, this thread is much better.
without realists narutofan this thread becomes.
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What prevents Hancock for joining are the problems at Amazon Lily, who is the current station. Hancock will play a mjaor role now.
K
Total devotion to Luffy, to the point of risking her title and island for him.
Despite your denial, Oda has already confirmed that it won't last.
Tenryuubito thing which would include Luffy as well.
K
Could be quartermaster, which is needed.
Where is it stated that a quartermaster is needed and why would boa be it? It's just a random position that you have tagged on to her. It is almost as irrelevant as Jinbei for helmsman.
Status in fragile situation; becomes major criminal and traitor whithout it.
But it's stilll just speculation while it's confirmed with Jinbei.
Is stated as the strongest warrior of her island.
K
Since Amazon Lily part 1 has been following and protecting him in any ways that are available.
True, but she hasn't really had very much screentime since dropping him off in ID
You may imagine whatever past or personality for Jinbei, but the fact is that Hancock's past and personality are not imaginary.
No, KiShiDo is more intune with his inner-oda than the rest of us. His rampant theories are better than confirmed facts.
Role in the crew? You mean, like archeologist, sniper or swordsman?
The difference is, even before they joined, we knew that they would serve those roles. We don't know that Hancock is a quartermaster. It's just made up by fans so that she works.
I won't point the status, after all you believe it will never change. So, I'll just wait for things to change, because they can.
Well yeah, but KiShiDo wants a discussion where only he can theorize and nobody else can.
- Problems at FI who is the next station and Jinbei will play a major role
Yeah, he lives there, so he will obviously join. It's not as though the current station is where boa lives. Oh wait, yeah it is.
- Promise to Ace and respect towards Luffy
Yeah, he's gonna do what ace did when he was alive. So I guess he can have Ace's position in the crew. Oh wait, ace wasn't in the crew.
- Arlong thing which would include Nami as well
K
- Could have a job if a helmsman is needed
Maybe if he said anywhere that he was a helmsman. But he's not. Standing in front of a helm doesn't make you a helmsman.
- No status and major criminal
K
- Is stated as unique fishmen compared to others
Where? And is Hancock not unique?
- Since ID the deeper relationship toward Luffy and is interacting far more with him now
K
Once again Boa has more or less the same damn chances. And if you say no she has more cuz of 1 chapter sad past and love sickness. I can simply say she has no role in the crew and still her status.
And I can sill say that Jinbei has not role in the crew and has no reason to even want to go with Luffy.
And now you would spam your theories how this all will be shown in the future and lead to a certain shit. Problem is you can do it with each and every other character as well who somehow had an interaction with Luffy. Hell that's why I said for fun Croc and Moria.
No they will give you facts and a few theories based off of them, you will ignore the facts and attack them only for the theories.
If you a neutral like others here around… you would say yeah jinbei and Boa has more or less the same chances and we have to see what will happen at AL. But no this whole damn thread is spammed with theories and everytime you say something against a theory or something for a other character it is wrong.
Yup, you are the god of fairness KiShiDo, please don't leave this thread. We need you retarded rages about all people who don't support Jinbei are bias.
Theories about what will happen next or whatever isn't a fact. And Narutossss is right with saying that this is retared here and like a fan ficition thread
Damn, I've never heard you say that before. If I actually cared enough about you posts I would go back and see how many times you told you were never gonna post here again. You're like the Eric Cartman of this thread.
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No, because all of your arguments are equally based on speculation.
You have no damn fact that something major will happen at AL now like a war or a sudden change which will let Boa join for sure. Hell you speculate there will be something like an attack and I can say 2 weeks have passed and nothing happened and so it
If you didn't notice we're in a flashback, retard. And even in there we got news of the tenryuubito, which is a pro for Boa.
And if you don't get it that all you are saying is just mere speculation and theories than I don't know.
No, he gets it. This thread is about speculation.
I have nothing against speculations but not if the thread is already spammed with the same shit over and over again and nothing new is added.
It's funny how you're the most redundant poster in this thread and you yell at others for it.
or people saying hey AGOG you are dumb with theories but on the other way are doing some crazy theories with no base as well.
Or when people walk in and say "This thread is gay. I'm not coming back." then come back the next day and say the same thing.
But hey post whatever you want but don't complain if I complain.
We probably will, since nonbody wants to read your whining. If you don't like the thread, leave. Nobody cares.
And once again. Your Boa has nothing besides a 1 chapter flashback if you want to know the true. The rest you did were speculations. Same for Jinbei. So there is no She/he has better chances. It is just about the wanking.
So where is jinbei's 1 chapter flashback? I must have taken a break that week.
And this thread let me dislike any of the candidates now cuz of this really bad theories
I don't care. At all.
Seriously KiShiDo, this thread is in fact bad, but you are one of the worst posters in it.
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The problem with Hancock's backstory is that we already know what happened.
She was kidnapped, became a slave, was fed a devil fruit, was freed by Fishman tiger and then became empress of the Kujas.We don't know Jimbei's backstory.
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Really people still don't get what I mean and simply start to talk that I'm a heavy Jimbei supporter and Boa hater. Awesome how ignorant those people are xD
Keep spinning this thread with the same old stuff all the time for the next 100 times but don't start to cry if I say something against it for the lulz
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@Robo:
K
Despite your denial, Oda has already confirmed that it won't last.
K
Where is it stated that a quartermaster is needed and why would boa be it? It's just a random position that you have tagged on to her. It is almost as irrelevant as Jinbei for helmsman.
Yes, but the other 1 insisted him on making up a title.
But it's stilll just speculation while it's confirmed with Jinbei.
Nothing is confirmed with jimbei
K
True, but she hasn't really had very much screentime since dropping him off in ID
Is that nesaccary she had plenty enough before going to ID.
No, KiShiDo is more intune with his inner-oda than the rest of us. His rampant theories are better than confirmed facts.
The difference is, even before they joined, we knew that they would serve those roles. We don't know that Hancock is a quartermaster. It's just made up by fans so that she works.
Yes, but she does have a title. Most Beautyful woman of the world.
So as for titles she does fit in. Example best swordsman of the world and best sniper etc.
Well yeah, but KiShiDo wants a discussion where only he can theorize and nobody else can.
Yeah, he lives there, so he will obviously join. It's not as though the current station is where boa lives. Oh wait, yeah it is.
he could join if the SH help him restore peace there.
Yeah, he's gonna do what ace did when he was alive. So I guess he can have Ace's position in the crew. Oh wait, ace wasn't in the crew.
Coz hes dead, wich gives even more meaning to his request
K
Maybe if he said anywhere that he was a helmsman. But he's not. Standing in front of a helm doesn't make you a helmsman.
true
K
Where? And is Hancock not unique?
K
And I can sill say that Jinbei has not role in the crew and has no reason to even want to go with Luffy.
Other than the request to take care of luffy and luffy helped him escape. if it wasnt for luffy he would still rot there and be turned into a dried fish.
No they will give you facts and a few theories based off of them, you will ignore the facts and attack them only for the theories.
Yup, you are the god of fairness KiShiDo, please don't leave this thread. We need you retarded rages about all people who don't support Jinbei are bias.
Damn, I've never heard you say that before. If I actually cared enough about you posts I would go back and see how many times you told you were never gonna post here again. You're like the Eric Cartman of this thread.
To lazy to put a lot of quote tags in my post so i did it in youre own post xD
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@Robo:
Where is it stated that a quartermaster is needed and why would boa be it? It's just a random position that you have tagged on to her. It is almost as irrelevant as Jinbei for helmsman.
I was just replying to Kishido showing all his points for Jinbei can be said for Hancock with little difference. The same is true for all other points.
Really people still don't get what I mean
Maybe they'd understand if stopped whining about the thread and just said it.
Keep spinning this thread with the same old stuff all the time for the next 100 times
Oh, we will. You can count on that.
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No worries, I can still follow what you're saying.
Yes, but the other 1 insisted him on making up a title.
No, he stated Hancock didn't have a position, not make a position up for her.
Nothing is confirmed with jimbei
No, it actually is.
Is that nesaccary she had plenty enough before going to ID.
It actually wasn't that much. It was at most 10 chapters, but I suppose quality is more important than quantity, and it was quality interaction.
Yes, but she does have a title. Most Beautyful woman of the world.
So as for titles she does fit in. Example best swordsman of the world and best sniper etc.
But that's not a position. In anything.
he could join if the SH help him restore peace there.
Or just stay behind and continue to protect it. So far he has no reason to go with Luffy.
Coz hes dead, wich gives even more meaning to his request
Other than the request to take care of luffy and luffy helped him escape. if it wasnt for luffy he would still rot there and be turned into a dried fish.
But not even ace joined Luffy's crew, so why would Jinbei. Jinbei has already sacrificed his life for luffy once. Granted, he ended up surviving, but he still put it at stake for the sake of luffy. I'm not saying that there is no chance that Jinbei will join, but as of now there isn't much reason for him to join and he has very few of the qualifications.
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Oi people chill down. Soon enough we will know if Boa will join or not. I hope Oda won't start a recue AL arc cuz I want to move on with the story. If Boa will join than fast and with problems solved later and not now.
Still hope Jinbei will be the one to join and besides a sad story he has as much chances as Boa for now. He even would have a job which was already shown maybe as forshdowing. the rest will be cleared at FI so need for speculations. But I agree with some here that most of the theories are repeated more than one time already
But one thing I have to say I find a bit unfair. Saying Jinbei's character is boring and he has no quirks or comedy material is a bit unfair.
We meet him in Impel Down at level 6, the greatest and most cruel prison. A war was near the world and WB was involded which cared the sake of Fishmen Island. So should he laugh and do some comedy shit all the time. Same at the war. His character will be fleshed out at fishmen island if he will sail with the SHs.
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Really people still don't get what I mean and simply start to talk that I'm a heavy Jimbei supporter and Boa hater. Awesome how ignorant those people are xD
Keep spinning this thread with the same old stuff all the time for the next 100 times but don't start to cry if I say something against it for the lulz
K KiShiDo, enjoy you faggish trolling while nobody cares about you.
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If you have absolutely nothing to add here and have not the courage to defend and discuss your own ideas fairly
LMAO @ it taking courage to do what you ppl are doing in this thread.
@KiShiDo:I have nothing against speculations but not if the thread is already spammed with the same shit over and over again and nothing new is added. or people saying hey AGOG you are dumb with theories but on the other way are doing some crazy theories with no base as well.
Hey man you shoulda caught on when they didn't notice the sarcasm in your last post. Most of the ppl posting now think this is how the thread should be since it's been like this for awhile and they think it's okay to join in.
One of the reasons most of the usual's don't post here anymore is cuz there's no new or interesting discussion and they just chime in to repeat themselves for the umpteenth time. The thread's zombie status now. We just have to wait until their candidates die/don't join, hopefully then they leave(or become better posters after that) and we can possibly have a chance to take the thread back with fresh theories and speculation.
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hey guys, new here
i actually thought that this time oda would come up with multiple recruitments. I was kinda thinking out of the box for this cause Oda has never done it before, he loves surprises and why must always recruitment be just the next single new nakama.
So for this, i think that there will be 3 new recruits after luffy gathers everyone back.
Firstly, I stick to the common discussion of Jimbei for helmsman.
Why?:- Helmsman is an open post on the ship (the post is proven to exist in the One Piece world)
- They didn't have anyone to maneuver the ship EXPERTLY throughout the series
- Again, there may be dangerous waters in the New World
- Jimbei is a fishman (there needs to be lesser normal looking humans on the ship)
- Yes, Jimbei is extremely strong (However, his bounty does not exceed that of Luffy and has been revealed)
- He is an expert at deepsea fighting (No one in the SH is)
- He can double up as a Striker (a hunting post for pirates)
- He has utmost respect for Luffy and has promised Ace to look after Luffy
- However, despite all these, the BIGGEST NO would be that Jimbei seems for now to be only guiding Luffy all the way to just Fishman Island and then stay there to protect the place on WB's behalf
Secondly, Hancock for quartermistress.
Why?:- In LOVE with Luffy (Nyon states that she would need to follow Luffy around as that would be the only cure)
- Lack of females on board the SH
- Proven to be a strong female fighter (her bounty matches Robin and again does not exceed Luffy's)
- Her past, bounty, background and lots of other details have been revealed in depth by Oda (basically she's been given a hell lot of coverage)
- Pirate King needs the most beautiful wife
- Hates the WG and after what she did (helping Luffy out) in the war, she most probably would be hunted by the WG
- Haki user who can coach Luffy
- Yet, the BIGGEST NO would be her commitment to Amazon Lily as the empress
Finally, Perona for boatswain
Why?:- The boatswain needs to take care of anchors, riggs and other parts of the ships during sailing (Perona can fly which gives her convenient access)
- She would make a hilarious addition
- Her character gives the most room for development
- Doesnt look likely to leave Zoro alone anymore
- She has to have something to do with the SH for Zoro to land on the same place as her
- Lack of females
- However, BIGGEST NO would be the argument of it being plain ridiculous
However, no matter how good or bad my points of argument are, Oda likes to surprise us and none of the 3 might join and we may not have seen the next nakama yet.
But I can safely assure and confirm the Silvers or Buggy will not join.
Silvers has gone once already to Raftel, he has no reason to do it again.
Buggy (Oh PLEASE)
Finally, Bon Clay seems more like the lone star ally from the outside to me even if he's not dead. For the SH to survive in the NW, newfound strength and additional firepower is a must which is why i keep thinking of Jimbei and Boa but actually since the whole manga revolves around nakama, perhaps teamwork and external allies would be the most important aspect since combined attacks have been given much coverage in the recent arcs. :) -
@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
LMAO @ it taking courage to do what you ppl are doing in this thread.
Hey man you shoulda caught on when they didn't notice the sarcasm in your last post. Most of the ppl posting now think this is how the thread should be since it's been like this for awhile and they think it's okay to join in.
One of the reasons most of the usual's don't post here anymore since there's no new or interesting discussion and they just chime in to repeat themselves for the umpteenth time. The thread's zombie status now. We just have to wait until their candidates die/don't join, hopefully then they leave(or become better posters after that) and we can possibly have a chance to take the thread back with fresh theories and speculation.
God bless you my friend^^ You are totally right
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Oi people chill down. Soon enough we will know if Boa will join or not.
Yeah. Her supporters are just anxious for it. We wanna see what resolution she will get. Will she stay on the island or go with Luffy? We can't wait to see.
[quoite]close I hope Oda won't start a recue AL arc cuz I want to move on with the story.
The story is always moving. I don't get why people think an AL arc would be "padding" the story. Whatever happens in it would just benefit it.
If Boa will join than fast and with problems solved later and not now.
Why? It would be better than go back to AL a third time.
Still hope Jinbei will be the one to join and besides a sad story he has as much chances as Boa for now.
We don't know Jinbei's story yet. While he has potential for a sad story, being a former captain and having his people prejudiced against and persecuted, we still don't know if he will get a personal story or if his story will just be about the Fishman Pirates and Fisher Tiger.
He even would have a job which was already shown maybe as forshdowing.
Problem is: every other job on the crew was seen as necessary and talked about before someone came to fill that job.
Zoro and Luffy didn't know how to navigate, so Coby suggested them to get a navigator. Enter Nami.
Yozaku is ill and Nami serves him oranges to heal him. Nami remarkes they need a cook to make nutricious foods. Enter Sanji.
Nami gets ill. Vivi says they need a doctor on the ship. Enter Chopper.
Usopp can't fix the Merry anymore. They need a shipwright. Enter Franky.
And Luffy was wanting a musician since chapter 1 and talks about a musician everytime others point that the ship lacks someone to fill an important job. Enter Brook (finally!).
Zoro, Usopp and Robin don't have "real" positions and their jobs were never commented as necessary before they joined. So, I don't think it's right to think that someone needs a position to join. Just before the Flying Fish Riders fight Usopp took upon the helm and no one complained that he was doing a bad job or that they needed a helmsman.
Whatever person joins, their specialization will probably be their job.
the rest will be cleared at FI so need for speculations. But I agree with some here that most of the theories are repeated more than one time already
So what? As long as there are people willing to discuss them, what's the problem?
But one thing I have to say I find a bit unfair. Saying Jinbei's character is boring and he has no quirks or comedy material is a bit unfair.
We meet him in Impel Down at level 6, the greatest and most cruel prison. A war was near the world and WB was involded which cared the sake of Fishmen Island. So should he laugh and do some comedy shit all the time. Same at the war. His character will be fleshed out at fishmen island if he will sail with the SHs.
Even if there was little chance for comedy, the fact is that we still don't have any quirk related to him. Quirks don't mean just comedy.
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Yeah. Her supporters are just anxious for it. We wanna see what resolution she will get. Will she stay on the island or go with Luffy? We can't wait to see.
I at least expect her to leave AL with Luffy, as the only way to cross the Calm Belt is by using Kuja Pirate Ship…
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I at least expect her to leave AL with Luffy, as the only way to cross the Calm Belt is by using Kuja Pirate Ship…
You know what I mean.
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@Robo:
No worries, I can still follow what you're saying.
No, he stated Hancock didn't have a position, not make a position up for her.
Okay but a position isnt really superb inportant coz (according to the manga there is 1 mentioned and thats helmsman) zoro is 1 man who doesnt have a position. she is obviously a powerhouse if she joins the crew.
No, it actually is.
tell me:)
It actually wasn't that much. It was at most 10 chapters, but I suppose quality is more important than quantity, and it was quality interaction.
yes yes
But that's not a position. In anything.
I know but she atleast got a title.:P
Or just stay behind and continue to protect it. So far he has no reason to go with Luffy.
If u dont count ace's words.
But not even ace joined Luffy's crew, so why would Jinbei. Jinbei has already sacrificed his life for luffy once. Granted, he ended up surviving, but he still put it at stake for the sake of luffy. I'm not saying that there is no chance that Jinbei will join, but as of now there isn't much reason for him to join and he has very few of the qualifications.
coz hes the oppsite of ace:P.
I know the reasons of him joining is still low but i defo see him as a vivi char and joining the crew after FI arc.
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It seems difficult to address the post of yours, but you should review it again …
Once again, Boa Hancock is losing the insecurity of losing her title, not the other way around. You ought to provide proof what shows her losing her title.
The WG selects who is Shichibukai, in order for Nyon to gain security, she would have to be accepted by the WG. Alas, the manga suggests only Hancock was able to grab the WG's attention to become a Shichibukai.
And no it is not bad if Oda emphasizes coherence in his plot, it makes the manga more structured.
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Okay but a position isnt really superb inportant coz (according to the manga there is 1 mentioned and thats helmsman) zoro is 1 man who doesnt have a position. she is obviously a powerhouse if she joins the crew.
Everybody else in the crew has one, even if it's not major, they were built up as that been their thing. Quartermaster has never been mentioned in the manga, in relation to boa or otherwise.
tell me:)
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/557/12/
I know but she atleast got a title.:P
I didn't deny she had a title, I denied she had a role in the crew.
If u dont count ace's words.[/UOTE]I'm pretty sure I've already explained this. Me along with a number of other people in this thread. I'm beginning to regret my actions towards KiShiDo, he was right about one thing. People are just making the same post over and over.
coz hes the oppsite of ace:P.
I know the reasons of him joining is still low but i defo see him as a vivi char and joining the crew after FI arc.
A Vivi character would be like Conis or Paulie, neither of them joined they just hung around and provided help.
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Really people still don't get what I mean and simply start to talk that I'm a heavy Jimbei supporter and Boa hater. Awesome how ignorant those people are xD
Keep spinning this thread with the same old stuff all the time for the next 100 times but don't start to cry if I say something against it for the lulz
This is from the person who every week during the war would post that Hancock has been written out of the story by Oda.
well she is still here…
If I am correct this thread is all about speculation since none of have the great pleasure of being Oda-sensei's assistance.
we don't know what is going to happen so we try our best to use reason to figure it out.
since chapter 521 I have felt there is a good chance the Hancock may at least travel with the crew for a while and absolutely nothing Oda has written has weakened that feeling, in fact it has been strengthened.
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This is going to keep going until we finally get another bone, which may or may not be the next chapter.
Probably not, the celestial dragon thing seems a bit high in the sky..
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@Robo:
Everybody else in the crew has one, even if it's not major, they were built up as that been their thing. Quartermaster has never been mentioned in the manga, in relation to boa or otherwise.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/557/12/
I didn't deny she had a title, I denied she had a role in the crew.
If u dont count ace's words.
I'm pretty sure I've already explained this. Me along with a number of other people in this thread. For all of KiShiDo's crappy posts, he was right about one thing. People are just making the same post over and over.
A Vivi character would be like Conis or Paulie, neither of them joined they just hung around and provided help.
Ace's words are a FACT than can mean anything even Jimbei joining the crew. U interpetate it in a diffrent way <– im not mogging about that. U are denieing it coz u think ''ace didnt join''.
Facts are that the 2 ppl Jimbei loved are dead WB & Ace. They both shown trust in luffy as the new PK. Not any PK but a PK that is rightous. Thats also something that Jimbei want to Present.
Conis and pauly didnt get an invite to the crew right? Vivi was a much bigger character than both of them. 1 entire arc was about vivi.
So will the new FI arc be about Jimbei. Jimbei is far more in comparison with vivi than both of them. COz even the SH will kick ass there.
Here interaction with luffy. DAMN i would want her even more on the crew \ after i saw this vid!!
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It seems difficult to address the post of yours, but you should review it again …
Once again, Boa Hancock is losing the insecurity of losing her title, not the other way around. You ought to provide proof what shows her losing her title.
There is no solid proof that she will be losing her title. Instead he have several times where it's brought up that she's going down the path of losing it.
Examples of this are Smoker sayings. "Do you have any idea what the marines are going to do to you after you've gotten in our way?"
Sentomaru going. "Your a warlord aren't you? Why are you fighting against the governement?"
and Hancock saying. "If i still retain my title of warlord, then AL should be safe."
There's never been. "Hancock's you've lost your title." instead we've had hints that it might happen.
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Ace's words are a FACT than can mean anything even Jimbei joining the crew. U interpetate it in a diffrent way <– im not mogging about that. U are denieing it coz u think ''ace didnt join''.
I'm not denying the words were said anywhere. I'm denying that it means he'll join. And actually, I know for a fact that Ace didn't join.
Facts are that the 2 ppl Jimbei loved are dead WB & Ace. They both shown trust in luffy as the new PK.
Where, show me where they said that Luffy should be the next PK. They were both trying to make the other PK
Not any PK but a PK that is rightous. Thats also something that Jimbei want to Present.
And he wanted WB to be PK, but he didn't join WB's crew either.
Conis and pauly didnt get an invite to the crew right? Vivi was a much bigger character than both of them. 1 entire arc was about vivi.
Either way, you're using the wrong term. A Vivi character doesn't join. I'm not saying Jinbei is one, but that is what a Vivi character is.
So will the new FI arc be about Jimbei. Jimbei is far more in comparison with vivi than both of them. COz even the SH will kick ass there.
No, I think he will be prominent on FI but he won't join.
Here interaction with luffy. DAMN i would want her even more on the crew \ after i saw this vid!!
This may surprise you, but Oda doesn't right about what you want. I believe I've already told you this.
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There is no solid proof that she will be losing her title. Instead he have several times where it's brought up that she's going down the path of losing it.
Yes, that's what I am implying. When Oda mentions that "path" is coming into view, he quickly covers up the path and forces a "different trail" to appear out of thin air in order to keep that path existent. In no way has Oda shown that the path is NOW threatened again, in fact, he has removed the threat by ALLOWING Hancock the significance she needed to keep that path open:
- Having her follow the orders of the summons.
- Having her fight against the Whitebeard Pirates.
- Winning against the WB forces, completely.
- Then, in the long run, giving a bunch of "red tape" to secure her entire operation (covert) that she did during the whole war.
With the stuff that happened, the manga is showing that Oda wishes for Hancock to keep her Shichibukai title and that she is now a sure bet to not have it revoked, unlike in the very beginning when it was like a day away from being revoked.
Examples of this are Smoker sayings. "Do you have any idea what the marines are going to do to you after you've gotten in our way?"
Sentomaru going. "Your a warlord aren't you? Why are you fighting against the governement?"
and Hancock saying. "If i still retain my title of warlord, then AL should be safe."
There's never been. "Hancock's you've lost your title." instead we've had hints that it might happen.
Yes, but those hints were quickly dismissed when the two-week fast forward was initiated– her title wasn't stripped during that span and it creates a "principle" that her title isn't being stripped at all. Leaving her to remain safe and sound in her own little fanciful world of isolation; until another crisis comes up that may threaten her title once again.
Oda had successfully overcome the negligence she had towards participating in the war to retain her Shichibukai title, and strengthened that gap which keeps her stuck to that one title. It just makes her character set to remain the Empress of Amazon Lilly, from any point of view.
Introducing another incident that threatens the title is all that Oda can do, and that's going to stall the plot greatly since we'll be back to square one, and ignoring the original plot focus of reuniting the Strawhat Crew.
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Robo Gorilla, when will you criticize me? I feel left out!!
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I'm hoping he keeps it nice and simple and Hancock keeps her Shichibukai title. It would be perfect this way in my opinion. Luffy would have an ally on the 'inside', Amazon Lily would be safe and of course it would shatter a lot of people's hopes and dreams. I think we will be finding out after this flashback, maybe three chapters?
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@Robo:
I'm not denying the words were said anywhere. I'm denying that it means he'll join. And actually, I know for a fact that Ace didn't join.
yes indeed u are deniing that:P.
Where, show me where they said that Luffy should be the next PK. They were both trying to make the other PK
WB said something about the will of D. right, that some1 with the will of D. would find the OP? he said to BB that he is not the 1. In other words its Luffy.
Ace said to luffy before he died he believed in luffy becomming a PK
And he wanted WB to be PK, but he didn't join WB's crew either.
they are strong enough to care for themselves but Luffy is not.
Either way, you're using the wrong term. A Vivi character doesn't join. I'm not saying Jinbei is one, but that is what a Vivi character is.
I meant hes a vivi char but insted of not joining this time he will join. I meant vivi as in riding along with luffy.
No, I think he will be prominent on FI but he won't join.
thats what u think yes
This may surprise you, but Oda doesn't right about what you want. I believe I've already told you this.
I know but those images are facts (Oda wrote it), also facts that shes very fun to watch to.
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I'm hoping he keeps it nice and simple and Hancock keeps her Shichibukai title. It would be perfect this way in my opinion. Luffy would have an ally on the 'inside', Amazon Lily would be safe and of course it would shatter a lot of people's hopes and dreams. I think we will be finding out after this flashback, maybe three chapters?
Why would she want a title that she actually dont want?. She was hiding behind a fake face. She tasted the power of accaptence by Luffy. I Honistly dont think she want to go back anymore.
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Why would she want a title that she actually dont want?. She was hiding behind a fake face. She tasted the power of accaptence by Luffy. I Honistly dont think she want to go back anymore.
It doesn't really matter what she wants. The thing that matters is that the author wants to keep Amazon Lily safe, not worry about popping Hancock's cherry.
In this sense, you can take it as "safe" that Oda wouldn't fuck up the island's safeguard for a romantic lust that won't be worthwhile or interesting at all…Heck, you can be assured by his various interviews that he won't even open a millimeter of the "door" that conceals this nonsense. He'll screw it shut, and then remove the doorknob so that it won't ever be opened.
He'll do everything in his power to prevent Boa Hancock from dumping her island so she can play "romance" on a not-romantic themed manga. If he must, he'll cripple her so that she's not able to move an inch.
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It doesn't really matter what she wants. The thing that matters is that the author wants to keep Amazon Lily safe, not worry about popping Hancock's cherry.
He can keep AL safe without Boa.
In this sense, you can take it as "safe" that Oda wouldn't fuck up the island's safeguard for a romantic lust that won't be worthwhile or interesting at all…Heck, you can be assured by his various interviews that he won't even open a millimeter of the "door" that conceals this nonsense. He'll screw it shut, and then remove the doorknob so that it won't ever be opened.
Than oda is stupid for 1 full page of love sickness in chapter 582 since that ISNT Nesaccary for the plot since we already know she loves him.
He'll do everything in his power to prevent Boa Hancock from dumping her island so she can play "romance" on a not-romantic themed manga. If he must, he'll cripple her so that she's not able to move an inch.
Everything in his power?. Well hes doing a really BAD job already hahah xD.
The thing is. Boa catching up to luffy and going back to AL was Pure nonsence. Oda could have healed jimbei and luffy in a MILLION other ways.
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I'm hoping he keeps it nice and simple and Hancock keeps her Shichibukai title. It would be perfect this way in my opinion. Luffy would have an ally on the 'inside', Amazon Lily would be safe and of course it would shatter a lot of people's hopes and dreams. I think we will be finding out after this flashback, maybe three chapters?
Whatever happens, whether she joins or not, will be resolved once the flashback is over, and it can equally go both ways at this point, though I personally think she's been built up to much to have Oda simply just write it all off.
We shouldn't expect a two week timeskip to have just magically answered the "did she lose her title" question, not if there hasn't been any talk about it with the marines. It can just as well come up after the flashback has ended. Or we get some sort of coverstory dealing with what happens to her as Luffy goes on his merry way.
This is why I hated the flashback up until the latest chapter, it's just delaying all the questions I and others want to know, however the celestial dragons may give us a bone to chew on. I doubt it, but we may see some dots connected..
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OneManCollectiblez…
How can he keep Amazon Lilly safe when the only way is to have the World Government "contain" a peace treaty of some sorts that wouldn't have the WG bloodlust after them?Please, try like all others try to come up with a bunch of speculations that try and prove some "sense" of how this may even happen. You'll be another failure hoping that there's some event which allows Boa Hancock to leave, yet there hasn't been a single one.
Actually, what he's doing from my perspective is that he's only adding "character" to her slightly, and has already figured a means to drop her in the dust. He only needs to slowly adjust how he wishes to have Boa Hancock "get over him" like he claims in the interview. It's simple, "he's fattening up the swine so that the pork it provides is more worthwhile…."
He's only building it up to make it over dramatic, like every other Boa Hancock infatuation has already been made to be. Oda's keeping it consistent.
And no, it wasn't nonsense to have Luffy rest at Amazon Lily, it was obviously the most secure place to have Luffy lie low as an "unconfirmed dead man" that he was left out to be. People assume that he was killed, and that's the main idea about it. Having Boa Hancock leave them in a safe, secure location is a good thing since Luffy can have the comfort of staying there for as long as he likes to recover. It was the most "simple" reason, better than having him head to Shabaody, which would have forced the plot to make haste and speed up the whole Fishman Island thing since the SA place is too close to the Marines.
What was nonsense was how Iva and the Okamas appeared on the Marine Battleship, that was some shit.
@halfmetal
Showing the Tenryuubito won't really add fuel to the fire, it'll just explain and conclude the bond that Luffy had for his "brother" by expanding how they really met. I don't expect the Tenryuubito to do much of anything except affect Ace's "rival" or "companion" in some way, possibly killing Sabo.
Furthermore, constantly bringing up the Tenryuubito only brings up the hunch that Oda is planning to allow a Tenryuubito to join the crew, and this would involve grand proportions towards what the projected plot will end up being. Nonetheless, if it is indeed all building up a Tenryuubito to join, then the idea will be a "strange" Tenryuubito that doesn't share akin to the others that were revealed.
Personally, though, I don't take the Tenryuubito as anything other than minor influence towards the ending war thing– Oda will probably stall Fishman Island, or have it overlap with the Tenryuubito in some way: nonetheless, the result shouldn't increase any real relation towards any event. It's just that a Tenryuubito will have affected Luffy's upbringing in some way, minor or major.
To me, it is safe to assume that Sabo dies eventually, and this is the real reason why Ace and Luffy are at the bond they are, nothing else.
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The lovesickness has never been portrayed as romantic in my opinions. If Luffy returned her feelings, then that be different. All we have right now is Hancock acting like any japanese anime teenager.
That's not really romantic….
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The lovesickness has never been portrayed as romantic in my opinions. If Luffy returned her feelings, then that be different. All we have right now is Hancock acting like any japanese anime teenager.
That's not really romantic….
It leads to the romantic spectacle, think of the lovey dovey over the top soap opera anime additions… Constantly showing that with a one-sided romance is far more prominent and tasteful than showing Sanji's hope to catch any fish in the sea, as long as they're female...
Unless Oda turns her into a Sanji-like woman, there's really no other scope of defining it as anything but romance.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/romance
Whatever it is you think she's doing, it is defined as "romantic" and the interview sums up what will happen with it, having Hancock come to light with the reality that there isn't any of that shit, and snapping out of it.
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How can he keep Amazon Lilly safe when the only way is to have the World Government "contain" a peace treaty of some sorts that wouldn't have the WG bloodlust after them?
The WG Arent going to Kill the whole Island. there are a LOT of innocent ppl there who did nothing wrong.
Please, try like all others try to come up with a bunch of speculations that try and prove some "sense" of how this may even happen. You'll be another failure hoping that there's some event which allows Boa Hancock to leave, yet there hasn't been a single one.
All youre speculations about Perona are even more Bullshit abnd is based on 1 thing. Why the Hell would i wanna talk to you about how boa will lose her title?.
Actually, what he's doing from my perspective is that he's only adding "character" to her slightly, and has already figured a means to drop her in the dust. He only needs to slowly adjust how he wishes to have Boa Hancock "get over him" like he claims in the interview. It's simple, "he's fattening up the swine so that the pork it provides is more worthwhile…."
Youre perspective yes and i have my perspective
He's only building it up to make it over dramatic, like every other Boa Hancock infatuation has already been made to be. Oda's keeping it consistent.
Thats an argument that can be used on ALL things inclusive all the crewmembers that DID join.
And no, it wasn't nonsense to have Luffy rest at Amazon Lily, it was obviously the most secure place to have Luffy lie low as an "unconfirmed dead man" that he was left out to be. People assume that he was killed, and that's the main idea about it. Having Boa Hancock leave them in a safe, secure location is a good thing since Luffy can have the comfort of staying there for as long as he likes to recover. It was the most "simple" reason, better than having him head to Shabaody, which would have forced the plot to make haste and speed up the whole Fishman Island thing since the SA place is too close to the Marines.
They were already safe do u really think after 2 weeks they are going to send an fleet to Luffy? To a submarine they cant even find. With Jimbei on it and batteling them? ( i think they got enough on their head with BB & revo's)
They easily could stay on an unamed island for a while.
What was nonsense was how Iva and the Okamas appeared on the Marine Battleship, that was some shit.
that isnt shit. Oda made shure the readers know they left the battle saftely
Here are 2 facts.
Boa doesnt care about her island and her inherritans.
Boa doesnt care about her title.
Why would Oda but those 2 things and a sad past from the marines in to this girl and still want her to be part of the WG.
''To creat more drama for when shes not going to join and stays back at an island with a mask on her face and a be part of the wg (who in her child years fkd her up) and cant do what she really wants'' Nu-UH
Hes doing that so Boa and luffy's crew can beat up those guys.
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It's just that a Tenryuubito will have affected Luffy's upbringing in some way, minor or major.
To me, it is safe to assume that Sabo dies eventually, and this is the real reason why Ace and Luffy are at the bond they are, nothing else.
This is something I can acutally agree with. Though Hancock's entire character has been based off slavery and the world nobles. So when I think celestial dragons. I think Boa Hancock.
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Thank you OneManCollectiblez, for reassuring me that you are in fact retarded. IDK why, when you first responded to my post I thought, "Hmm, maybe he will be intelligent this time.". Seriously, how can you tell me what I believe? But I will grace you with response to a part that actually had intelligence in it.
WB said something about the will of D. right, that some1 with the will of D. would find the OP? he said to BB that he is not the 1. In other words its Luffy.
That's just foreshadowing that Luffy will be PK. It doesn't mean WB wanted him to be PK. He clearly stated his goal was for Ace to be PK.
Ace said to luffy before he died he believed in luffy becomming a PK.
True enough. But I've already explained why I don't think that means Jinbei will join.
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Show some spirit for your Strawhat candidates! Feel free to use these in your avatar, sig, whatever.
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No Hitler/Mancock/Spandam's shoes/Pandaman option?
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Is there like a program that converts pictures to obama colors or do people actually do the coloring themselves?
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It leads to the romantic spectacle, think of the lovey dovey over the top soap opera anime additions… Constantly showing that with a one-sided romance is far more prominent and tasteful than showing Sanji's hope to catch any fish in the sea, as long as they're female...
Unless Oda turns her into a Sanji-like woman, there's really no other scope of defining it as anything but romance.
Actually it would be defined as these things, and not romance at all.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/satire
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/joke
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Here are 2 facts.
Boa doesnt care about her title.That is a blatant lie. You're not reading one piece.
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@Robo:
Thank you OneManCollectiblez, for reassuring me that you are in fact retarded. IDK why, when you first responded to my post I thought, "Hmm, maybe he will be intelligent this time.". Seriously, how can you tell me what I believe? But I will grace you with response to a part that actually had intelligence in it.
Where the hell am I saying to you what you must believe?
That's just foreshadowing that Luffy will be PK. It doesn't mean WB wanted him to be PK. He clearly stated his goal was for Ace to be PK.
Ace didnt want to be PK. It's a forshadowing from WB to Luffy & thats more than the ''what if'' discussions.
True enough. But I've already explained why I don't think that means Jinbei will join.
and I explained why I think it´s a reason he could. So?
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