Whitebeard and Garp Cried so they knew he was dying, Ace died with no regret and with a smile on his face, Luffy made an expression neve seen before, a whole chapter was about his death, his life which is reflected on his biblecard vanished, what more u need to confirme it
Chapter 574 "The Death of Portgas D. Ace" Discussion
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I wonder what's so special about Dadan that Oda keeps hiding his face;
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So this "Sabo" Ace mentions is most likely a person, right?
Probably. But it's worded in a way that could be taken as anything.
Location, name of a person, etc. -
Akainu death at the hand of luffy is garanted on next chapter
Akainu for next nakama.
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Now this rescue arc is no where like EL except its at a WG-facility.
I hope Luffys personality doesn't change too much.
Anyway I think Oda will do his job, just like he did it now.
In one chap he managed to sink an ass full of OP-fans into sorrow.
And within 2 chaps all my personal expections in Akainu came true (biggest badass among the marines!)
I wonder what Aokijis thoughts are in the beginning of this chap (look at his face). His face says sth like :"is this true justice?", but I'm just speculating.
After all he is the most easy-going-admiral.I differe. I believe it would be great if his personality changes. He can remain funny etc…however if he matures a bit and sometimes thinks things through it would be great.
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I still can't see Ace staying dead after what Luffy gave up to save him, leaving Bon Clay in ID, what all the Whitebeard pirates did, Oars sacrifice, Whitebeard's rapidly approaching sacrifice, Jinbei. Even with Crocodile & Daz and Mister 3 helping. That is some retarded shit.
Anyways if he does stay dead…I only read/love One Piece because it makes me happy. Not looking for a brilliant or realistic story. And if this is the end of Ace then I think I'm out for the most part. I do want to see what happens to Whitebeard + crew and I'm insanely curious about Crocodile's past but losing that happy vibe isn't something I'm interested in.
Oh, leland, I know exactly what you mean. I've lost my "happy vibe" about this manga too. All those sacrifices Luffy made, everyone made, and Ace still winds up dead? And Whitebeard's whole "if I can just save one young life…" speech, everything his crew risked, all for nothing? I know that bad things do happen in this manga, but in the end you know it'll be alright. All the SH's had sad stories, but in the end they found Luffy and it turned out okay.
The part where Ace says that thanks to Luffy it was worth living and where he says that he won't die and leave behind his brother just kills me. I have never gotten so worked up over a One Piece chapter before.
I kinda hate that Ace's lifelong wish was just for him to know it was okay to be born. He never ended up confronting his daddy issues like I thought he would have. I don't mean for him to all of a sudden like Roger, but for him to make peace with the fact that he was Roger's son, and realize that that is not what defined him. He meant so much to all these people who risked their lives to come save him, yet in the end it seems like he was still defining himself mostly as as the son of a demon. Pity he never got to talk to Rayleigh.
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whats up with the coverpage?:blink:
thought we would get a new coverstory, but it seems more like a fun-cover..again. -
I wonder what's so special about Dadan that Oda keeps hiding his face;
Thats the same question that bothers me. If he isnt a top tier character in the future there is no point for Oda hiding Dadans face from us.
BTW: next chap is called "GEAR 5 (-he jumped over 4!?)"
average cars also have 5 gears, do you think theres a foreshadowing to Luffys fighting skills in the future?
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what are you talking about ? ACE WAS SAVED !!!
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It is stupid to deny that Ace isn't dead. He didn't die for nothing. It would be better if Ace-fans would rather accept and honor the death than deny it :/ Oda tried to make it so clear that everyone would get it.
Ace wasn't best or worst character in the series but he was important, at least for Luffy if not for Ace-haters.
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Probably. But it's worded in a way that could be taken as anything.
Location, name of a person, etc.Hm, i see.
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All this is not sufficent
Although your nickname is okamaking you can't imagine that he could do something ?
Remember that ther's no death in one piece only in flashback
and if ever oda changes his way he can't do it so badly like this chapterAce is dead that's for sure…but in any manga characters can regain life.. so why not Ace, he may live again but stays in coma for 2 years or something like that...or there can be time travel, actually there can be anything... Oda will decide...I'm sure he got many twist in his pockets.
I only hope he will make Luff punch akainu in the face with king haki... -
Well crap. Now I have to change my avatar. AGAIN. And here I spent 6 hours coloring that whole damn panel cause I was sooo happy Ace was freed.. and that Luffy looked so happy after so long..snif
But seriously, I'm kinda in shock at this point. On the one hand, as a fan of Ace (and as a best friend of someone who is a HUGE fan of Ace and is ready to kill people after reading this chap. text ..scary) I would kind of be relieved to see that Oda actually IS trolling us and will find some sort of loophole to bring him back – by multiple ways previously mentioned so far; I'm betting on Marco, heh, Phoenix tears... that would be going all Harry Potter on us.
On the OTHER hand I have to agree with some in saying this would be a poor move on his part. There's very few brought-back-to-life instances that I find excusable, unless he wants to go the Toriyama way and make Luffy go on some epic side-quest for a magical object that can bring people back from the dead. Which I SO do not see. Plus that would probaly be the WEAKEST way to bring him back if he did decide to do so.
Anyway I'm still not able to say 'R.I.P' just yet.... I think I'll wait until next week for proper judgement on that.. like when they have to drag Luffy away from Ace's body -- either from freaking out or passing out. Hoping for the former.
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(…) I believe it would be great if his personality changes. He can remain funny etc...however if he matures a bit and sometimes thinks things through it would be great.
Yeah, thats right. I meant it'd be awful if Luffy would lose his funny-side and goes all emo and serious all the time.
Of course I'm sure Oda would never change Luffys personality that much.
I'm not bothered if he would mature a bit - like you said.
@Sami-chan
Why do you have to change it?
It looks great, btw.
I think no one with an Ace-av should change his av because of the recent events, you should keep Ace in memory that way. -
People, now with Ace dying, do you think Bon Clay is still alive or dead?
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any news on cover story?
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but i have to say this!
thx oda you did that…he finally ignored his rule and this is what this story needed since a long time...now the WAR! gets again full pace and for the chara development of some it`s like you let them eat juwels
perfect death for a chara..even when it`s ace..for the saje of the story a great thing to do...kudos oda...you did amaze me again!
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ahmm so after this it would be like One Piece shippuden? oh god no please!
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As much as I like Ace…if he died here (which I believe he did), I hope Oda do not bring him back afterwards. I really HATE when those things happen, it compromises credibility.
What I expect to see changed in Luffy is that this major outbreak might bring him up to a new level...maybe becoming conscious about his Haki and beating the crap out of Akainu. But I agree with the majority of you guys: if he starts being depressive after so long, that would be indeed a change in the character's development - for worse, though. Let's see what Oda has up his sleeve.
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any news on cover story?
Nope, looks like we're up for another cycle of ''Straw Hats and Animals'', though at least Oda switched things up by showing two in one pop. But Luffy being on the receiving end of slapstick humor right underneath a title reading ''Portgas D. Ace is Dead'' just really doesn't feel right. It's like kicking him when he's already down and laughing.
As mentioned in the spoiler thread, this is probably going to be like Gurren Lagann, as far as Luffy goes. He'll probably be despondant and such for a little while, but then his crew will be there to help him out and he'll eventually recover. Most of them have seen a loved one die right in front of them, so he's got plenty of folks that can empathize and provide a figurative shoulder to cry on. It'll be all right.
Though, this does bode ominous for Mr. 2, doesn't it?
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But we have an point…
All characters whhich died have no future purpose to the story like Pell, Conis father (?) and some more...
Ace death will have an inpact for the future story.
So RIP Ace... Good to have known you.
Give your father some greeting from me
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One of the greatest One piece chapters.
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People, now with Ace dying, do you think Bon Clay is still alive or dead?
Bon clay has joined BB's crew by now.
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If Marco can revive the dead with his magical Phoenix powers, i wonder why poor Thatch had to leave us so soon :(
But Luffy being on the receiving end of slapstick humor right underneath a title reading ''Portgas D. Ace is Dead'' just really doesn't feel right. It's like kicking him when he's already down and laughing.
This cover has "Yay! Fuu!" written all over it.
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If anyone should kill Akainu it should be Whitebeard.
Let Luffy rest now.
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People, now with Ace dying, do you think Bon Clay is still alive or dead?
IMO, he is alive, I am not ready to 100% bury Ace either
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other info on cover
One Piece Illustration collection "EAGLE" out 3/4
OP Volume 57 (due out 3/4) first print broke another record with 3 million issues printed -
People, now with Ace dying, do you think Bon Clay is still alive or dead?
I believe he is alive…
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Thats the same question that bothers me. If he isnt a top tier character in the future there is no point for Oda hiding Dadans face from us.
BTW: next chap is called "GEAR 5 (-he jumped over 4!?)"
average cars also have 5 gears, do you think theres a foreshadowing to Luffys fighting skills in the future?
Gear 5? That true Aohige?
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I hate that part of me silently saying kudos to Oda for having the guts to kill such a major character who, in my opinion, left too soon.
I wanted to see more of him.
Rest in peace mate.And folks, please stop doubting about Ace's death, you remind me of these guys saying that Sauro may still be alive.
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Thats the same question that bothers me. If he isnt a top tier character in the future there is no point for Oda hiding Dadans face from us.
BTW: next chap is called "GEAR 5 (-he jumped over 4!?)"
average cars also have 5 gears, do you think theres a foreshadowing to Luffys fighting skills in the future?
I think it will be "gear R" for reverse and many flashbacks!
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other info on cover
One Piece Illustration collection "EAGLE" out 3/4
OP Volume 57 (due out 3/4) first print broke another record with 3 million issues printedNice to see OP breaking records again :D But I think that the future volumes will be breaking even more records, or it might drop lower after the hype over One Piece is over. IMO, the reason why OP is still selling so well is due to the popularity of Strong World.
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other info on cover
One Piece Illustration collection "EAGLE" out 3/4
OP Volume 57 (due out 3/4) first print broke another record with 3 million issues printed3 million WTF that is crazy .
Any way luffy will not going to go emo, it be just like Gurren Lagann i expect luffy to come back more kick ass than before.
He now has taste of all 3 admirals and seen the power of the NW pirates , time for him to learn how to use haki or come up with gear 4 and 5 until he can learn haki.
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As mentioned in the spoiler thread, this is probably going to be like Gurren Lagann, as far as Luffy goes. He'll probably be despondant and such for a little while, but then his crew will be there to help him out and he'll eventually recover. Most of them have seen a loved one die right in front of them, so he's got plenty of folks that can empathize and provide a figurative shoulder to cry on. It'll be all right.
Though, this does bode ominous for Mr. 2, doesn't it?
Final Fantasy 9 Zidane moment with "You're Not Alone" track playing in the background. I'd love to see that.
other info on cover
One Piece Illustration collection "EAGLE" out 3/4
OP Volume 57 (due out 3/4) first print broke another record with 3 million issues printedWow, way to go Oda! :cheerful:
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But good to see that Ace died with a smile like all D. had done before
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Nice to see OP breaking records again :D But I think that the future volumes will be breaking even more records, or it might drop lower after the hype over One Piece is over. IMO, the reason why OP is still selling so well is due to the popularity of Strong World.
Actually the sales were on a rise since way before the SW hype..if anything, the movie helped to bring in more new fans.
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Gear 5? That true Aohige?
No, chapter titles for future issues are never revealed early.
He's either pulling your leg, trolling, or falling for one. -
OWH MI GOODDDD, HES SOOOO BROKEN!!!. ODA i DONT CARE WHAT ALL THOSE ACE FANNY's SAY ABOUT HOW THEY HATE YOU… I MADE ONEPIECE GOING FROM THIS LVL
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No, chapter titles for future issues are never revealed early.
He's either pulling your leg, trolling, or falling for one.Sorry, I think I meant the first one, but I didn't want to pull anyone's leg.
It was just a dumb speculation of myself.
Sorry, if I misguided someone.
Don't take my posts so seriously (again!). -
No, chapter titles for future issues are never revealed early.
He's either pulling your leg, trolling, or falling for one.Thank you. Sometimes I am gullible, but thank you
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@Lee:
I hate that part of me silently saying kudos to Oda for having the guts to kill such a major character who, in my opinion, left too soon.
I wanted to see more of him.
Rest in peace mate.And folks, please stop doubting about Ace's death, you remind me of these guys saying that Sauro may still be alive.
Oh boo. We're fans, right? That gives us the right to doubt. It is in our blood to doubt. I doubted Wolfwood was dead for whole 2 eps. (spoiler?)
Anyway, of course I'm not gonna say he's dead yet. Like I mentioned, when they have to drag Luffy away from his burnt body then yes. I will admit this. But all I have is a pic of Luffy moaning over Ace's body. This is sad, no doubt. All the flashbacks are extremely touching and yes give great proof that he is DYING. DYING.. as in not quite dead.
I'm not saying I'm in denial like I'm sure others might be, but personally I'm just gonna wait and see what happens, and mourn him properly once this arc is good and done –which will be the time for all the other chars. to do so since right now they should be more worried about getting their asses off that island seeing WHAT just happened.. the marines aren't taking shit anymore.
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Whats with the lack of scans leately ?
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Anyway, of course I'm not gonna say he's dead yet. Like I mentioned, when they have to drag Luffy away from his burnt body then yes. I will admit this. But all I have is a pic of Luffy moaning over Ace's body. This is sad, no doubt. All the flashbacks are extremely touching and yes give great proof that he is DYING. DYING.. as in not quite dead.
I'm not saying I'm in denial like I'm sure others might be, but personally I'm just gonna wait and see what happens, and mourn him properly once this arc is good and done –which will be the time for all the other chars. to do so since right now they should be more worried about getting their asses off that island seeing WHAT just happened.. the marines aren't taking shit anymore.
You're in denial like the rest of them.
Ace's vivre-card completely burned out and he died there right on the spot, there's no use in debating whether he's alive or not. He's really DEAD. Of course saying this without a doubt could make me look like an idiot if he's actually still alive, but I'm pretty damn sure he isnt and by that time, no one would remember me having said this. ;D
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But good to see that Ace died with a smile like all D. had done before
Thats a really good point you had there.
@blue-san
Sorry, I didn't want to pull your leg, I was just kidding.
But I'd be happy if Luffy only landed one true-hurting punch on Akainu and if he is too weak now he should completely beat the shit out of him later in the story. -
Whats with the lack of scans leately ?
no one is gonna scan camera raw
btw.. can someone add this to first page?
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Thats a really good point you had there.
@blue-san
Sorry, I didn't want to pull your leg, I was just kidding.
But I'd be happy if Luffy only landed one true-hurting punch on Akainu and if he is too weak now he should completely beat the shit out of him later in the story.NP didnt really believe it, just wanted to make sure.
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no one is gonna scan camera raw
btw.. can someone add this to first page?
http://i49.tinypic.com/5zpn3p.jpgIt isnt much like a cam raw.
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It isnt much like a cam raw.
This is what a usual raw is like (which gets scanned). There is lot of difference in this and the one we have.
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This cover has "Yay! Fuu!" written all over it.
Right, next time someone complains about the opening, I'm whipping this sucker out.