I can partially understand where Yung is coming from. During past battles, Luffy would lose to an opponent at first but somehow manage to survive and get a second chance. Only this time it's the Yonkou he's facing and losing there would result in more dire repercussions given the power and might those entities wield. Who says that Luffy and the crew would even get the chance to flee after being beaten? I could understand someone like Kuzan appearing and helping them but anything else wouldn't do it for me. After all the whole crew's been training for two years and the results have yet to be fully shown.
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I can partially understand where Yung is coming from. During past battles, Luffy would lose to an opponent at first but somehow manage to survive and get a second chance. Only this time it's the Yonkou he's facing and losing there would result in more dire repercussions given the power and might those entities wield. Who says that Luffy and the crew would even get the chance to flee after being beaten? I could understand someone like Kuzan appearing and helping them but anything else wouldn't do it for me. After all the whole crew's been training for two years and the results have yet to be fully shown.
Totally agree on that…..i'm pretty sure the yonko would jsut straight out kill the Strawhats if defeated or sell them off to marines...(Except Shanks ofc....Shanks is awesome like that)
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I kind of expect you guys might be in for a real dissapointment.
I see where you're coming from but this is still One Piece. I doubt that even the Yonko would kill the Straw Hats if they were to defeat them at first.The same fuss was made about the Schichibukai when they first entered the Grand Line, and Luffy survived fighting Crocodile twice.
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I kind of expect you guys might be in for a real dissapointment.
I see where you're coming from but this is still One Piece. I doubt that even the Yonko would kill the Straw Hats if they were to defeat them at first.The same fuss was made about the Schichibukai when they first entered the Grand Line, and Luffy survived fighting Crocodile twice.
I don't want to claim they're not gonna beat a Yonko on the first try, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lose and survive it either.well yes but i guess it depends on the Yonko all together…Crocodile saw something in Luffy that reminded him of himself when he was new like luffy....so he decided to spare him a killing blow...
Moria was just Lazy as fuck and just didn't care if remember right until more at the end(Long time since i went through Thriller bark arc so i'm kinda rusty on it)...Shanks would just you know hold a party in celebration of Luffy's sucess of becoming a bigshot...
Blackbeard dosen't really need Luffy anymore for his plans so he might just as well leave him alone....ofc he'd know once he'd recover he'd be back and try again cause he was the reason for Ace's death.
Big Mam is the only one i see doing something really harsh since she has been insulted...ofc if she is really truly the mother of Lola as many speculate, she might go leaniant on them....even become a close friend.
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I kind of expect you guys might be in for a real dissapointment.
I see where you're coming from but this is still One Piece. I doubt that even the Yonko would kill the Straw Hats if they were to defeat them at first.The same fuss was made about the Schichibukai when they first entered the Grand Line, and Luffy survived fighting Crocodile twice.
I don't want to claim they're not gonna beat a Yonko on the first try, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lose and survive it either.You're saying that like it's a bad thing that the Strawhats wouldn't die.
At the very beginning Luffy said that he's lucky, and that luck showed multiple times. But I think he's grown past that and realized that he can't only depend on luck.
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You're saying that like it's a bad thing that the Strawhats wouldn't die.
I did? Where in my post did I claim that?
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I did? Where in my post did I claim that?
People were saying that it shouldn't happen and I said it might, and that they might get dissapointed. Nothing in there about my opinion on it…I meant it sounded like it…I still don't think any of them will die, that's just out of the question for me..
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No thanks, that undermines the Supernova abilities entirely.
Maybe but the Yonkou are supposedly so strong that if you try to go at them head on their crew will destroy you before you see the actual Yonkou. I would say it would take 3 top tier SN at least to fight a Yonkou meaning any 3 from the Kid/Law/Luffy/Apoo/Hawkins group. I think to compete with their crew's which seem to all have divisions it would require many SN's some to fight division commanders and the rest of their crew to fight the fodder.
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Maybe but the Yonkou are supposedly so strong that if you try to go at them head on their crew will destroy you before you see the actual Yonkou. I would say it would take 3 top tier SN at least to fight a Yonkou meaning any 3 from the Kid/Law/Luffy/Apoo/Hawkins group. I think to compete with their crew's which seem to all have divisions it would require many SN's some to fight division commanders and the rest of their crew to fight the fodder.
This also means we are in for some pretty Epic Fighting scenes.
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Maybe but the Yonkou are supposedly so strong that if you try to go at them head on their crew will destroy you before you see the actual Yonkou. I would say it would take 3 top tier SN at least to fight a Yonkou meaning any 3 from the Kid/Law/Luffy/Apoo/Hawkins group. I think to compete with their crew's which seem to all have divisions it would require many SN's some to fight division commanders and the rest of their crew to fight the fodder.
That would be a major disappointment since all these guys got so much stronger during the 2 year timeskip (basing it off Law and Luffy atm). Not to mention Luffy has Zoro to his side, which I believe is probably the 4th strongest Supernova after the big 3. I think the main reason you can't even get to Yonkos is since they have so many armies (ie. Whitebeard in the war), your squad just keeps getting decimated piece by piece. They need to be isolated or drawn out somewhere, which is probably the main part of Law's plan with Kaido.
Kid could probably be destroying piece by piece the small armies of BM to draw her out as well or simply make her army smaller and smaller until they're ready to strike.
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That would be a major disappointment since all these guys got so much stronger during the 2 year timeskip (basing it off Law and Luffy atm). Not to mention Luffy has Zoro to his side, which I believe is probably the 4th strongest Supernova after the big 3. I think the main reason you can't even get to Yonkos is since they have so many armies (ie. Whitebeard in the war), your squad just keeps getting decimated piece by piece. They need to be isolated or drawn out somewhere, which is probably the main part of Law's plan with Kaido.
Kid could probably be destroying piece by piece the small armies of BM to draw her out as well or simply make her army smaller and smaller until they're ready to strike.
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I don't think it would be that disappointing, I mean we saw Akainu take on several WB division commanders who were probably still slightly above the big 3 SNs level. Akainu still couldn't beat WB even though WB was injured and dying. They will be going against a healthy Yonkou, who will probably be stronger than pre-TS Akainu since he was weaker than WB (and for what we've been told the Yonkou are all equal/in a tie). I think only one or two SNs at this point in the story beating a Yonkou would severely undermine the Yonkou's power. I'd say maybe after visiting probably three more islands (3 more arcs) then I could see the SNs becoming Admiral level on their own.
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I don't think drawing them out will work that well because if something is required that is vital to what they do (like Ace's capture, maybe the loss of SAD for Kaidou) then it would be dealt with as a group. I think you'd have to try occupy the crew and charge in much like the admirals did to WB.
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I don't think it would be that disappointing, I mean we saw Akainu take on several WB division commanders who were probably still slightly above the big 3 SNs level. Akainu still couldn't beat WB even though WB was injured and dying. They will be going against a healthy Yonkou, who will probably be stronger than pre-TS Akainu since he was weaker than WB (and for what we've been told the Yonkou are all equal/in a tie). I think only one or two SNs at this point in the story beating a Yonkou would severely undermine the Yonkou's power. I'd say maybe after visiting probably three more islands (3 more arcs) then I could see the SNs becoming Admiral level on their own.
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I don't think drawing them out will work that well because if something is required that is vital to what they do (like Ace's capture, maybe the loss of SAD for Kaidou) then it would be dealt with as a group. I think you'd have to try occupy the crew and charge in much like the admirals did to WB.
If it takes all the main Supernovas to beat ONE Yonko, we are not going to see One Piece end until 20 more years, since the first Yonko fight is about 3 years from now (likely assumption, since Dressrosa alone will probably take a year or a year and a half to finish). If Luffy needs the help all the main Supernovas (ie. Kid and Law), unless Oda does a bullshit ass pull power up, it's going to take Luffy a really really really really (do you see where I am going with this?) .. really long time to get to the level of beating one all by himself.
And I totally disagree with you regarding the ranking of WB's pirates. Take Jozu, Marco and to a degree Vista, I'm confident Supernovas would be able to take all of Whitebeard's crew in 1v1 fights other than maybe Capone and Boney. Marco is also the same guy that was fighting one of the strongest VAs and an Admiral solo, while Jozu took a hit from Hawkeyes.
It depends how they are drawn out. If it is something that could make Kaido himself come with his crew only, ie. Law cooks something up that is very time sensitive and wouldn't give Kaido time enough, or likely makes DD a patsy, someone Kaido can take care of himself.. I don't see why he would bring out every single ship he has for Doflamingo alone. I just don't see why else Law wouldn't just wait at PH and kill him 5v1.
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I'm not gonna pretend this is what will happen exactly , but it makes perfect sense for Kid's Alliance to take down a Yonko the same time as Luffy's Alliance. If let's say one alliance was defeated while the other succeeded in overthrowing their target, that would be counterproductive to the storyline imo.
I just don't see anymore flat out "losing" at this point in the story , a hard fought near death battle for sure but I feel there isn't time for
anymore setbacks, at least not this early into it.Honestly I feel like it'll be 2 SupNova's vs 1 Yonko a piece, that'll make their losses [[especially Kaido's]] more plausible.
People are Over hyping Doflamingo as well, his threat really lies solely in his Df ability and his overall network
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Yet, the possibility for the Yonkou winning is still higher than any alliance, lol.
The matter of fact is that: Law + Luffy + Zoro + Plan = 30%. That's a bad bet no matter how you look at it. We have no idea what Kid's alliance is planning (the when and where and how) as a mean for beating the Yonkou in question. Are they attacking Big Mom? Are they doing it during the Tea Party? Would that be a smart move or a bad one? We don't know these things, and so, we can only judge by what we have, which really look bad.
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Personally I feel that Luffy and the SN's should be around Admiral level, or close to it. Honestly if Luffy hasn't gotten that much stronger over two years, whose to think that he'll have a higher power jump between now and the time he faces the Yonko?
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I personally think the only Yonko the Strawhat's will take on by themselves is Blackbeard. Big Mom and Kaido I think will be brought down by alliances between the 11 Supernovas and other sources (i.e. Gekko Moriah helping to take down Kaido).
The Blackbeard Crew confrontation will be closer to the end of the series, so it only makes sense by then they have the ability to fight on equal footing with a Yonko.
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^ that would make the most sense, otherwise Luffy's crew would take down every single Yonkou :/
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@Jewelery:
Personally I feel that Luffy and the SN's should be around Admiral level, or close to it. Honestly if Luffy hasn't gotten that much stronger over two years, whose to think that he'll have a higher power jump between now and the time he faces the Yonko?
So you're saying the Marines are basically useless and weak against major New World pirates. Since they have only three or four dudes to the apparent thirteen at least equal pirates in the New World.
Gonna go with a "no" on this one.
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Well so far to be honest we've seen Vice Admirals getting kicked around by people in the New World…but I may have over exaggerated a bit. I just think people are underestimating the power of the Supernova's and Luffy, two years is a ton of time to build power. It just seems like people are thinking that they're not even close to the level of the top people, the top 3 Supernova's at the least should be within in arms reach of admiral level strength.
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Read One Piece 708… there seem to be guys who are supposedly no where near Luffy's infamousy, but who are crazy strong
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Read One Piece 708… there seem to be guys who are supposedly no where near Luffy's infamousy, but who are crazy strong
You seem to be forgetting we can't know all famous people in the NW yet…to the characters they ARE well-known.
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LOL new world's gonna be one hell of a rough ride, amazingly powerful opponents seem to pop up everywhere, one piece should last for very long still, which is great :D, awesome
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Hello, first post. Caught up on anime and manga of One Piece. I'm not going to post a theory, I'm just asking you guys, do you think the SH crew will need to get stronger AGAIN to progress in the New World? If so, when, and how?
I am thinking maybe after Luffy Fighting DF. I know they got stronger from the time skip, but I think they have to get even stronger. Notice how there wasn't really a wall of difficulty in the Fish Islands? The only challenge was fighting underwater, but I'm just talking straight fighting skill. I have no idea how they might get stronger, but I'm sure it would be an opportunity that would just come to them in time. (With experience) It makes me wonder how Gol D. Roger progressed with his crew.
Now I don't have any evidence to show that Luffy and his crew might not have enough power for a Yonkou crew, yet after seeing DF fighting Luffy and his crew vs the SH's would be a good judgement of how far Luffy and his crew have come in the 2 years. Can't wait for that fight. :D
If you disagree and feel there is no need, can you explain why you think so?
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@Neo:
Hello, first post. Caught up on anime and manga of One Piece. I'm not going to post a theory, I'm just asking you guys, do you think the SH crew will need to get stronger AGAIN to progress in the New World? If so, when, and how?
I am thinking maybe after Luffy Fighting DF. I know they got stronger from the time skip, but I think they have to get even stronger. Notice how there wasn't really a wall of difficulty in the Fish Islands? The only challenge was fighting underwater, but I'm just talking straight fighting skill. I have no idea how they might get stronger, but I'm sure it would be an opportunity that would just come to them in time. (With experience) It makes me wonder how Gol D. Roger progressed with his crew.
Now I don't have any evidence to show that Luffy and his crew might not have enough power for a Yonkou crew, yet after seeing DF fighting Luffy and his crew vs the SH's would be a good judgement of how far Luffy and his crew have come in the 2 years. Can't wait for that fight. :D
If you disagree and feel there is no need, can you explain why you think so?
We need to see Luffy, Zoro and Sanji fighting all out before we are able to see just what level they are at the moment. Zoro for example, just genuinely has been breezing through everything, which is ironic since he's the one that told Luffy things are serious now.
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@Neo:
Hello, first post. Caught up on anime and manga of One Piece. I'm not going to post a theory, I'm just asking you guys, do you think the SH crew will need to get stronger AGAIN to progress in the New World? If so, when, and how?
I am thinking maybe after Luffy Fighting DF. I know they got stronger from the time skip, but I think they have to get even stronger. Notice how there wasn't really a wall of difficulty in the Fish Islands? The only challenge was fighting underwater, but I'm just talking straight fighting skill. I have no idea how they might get stronger, but I'm sure it would be an opportunity that would just come to them in time. (With experience) It makes me wonder how Gol D. Roger progressed with his crew.
Now I don't have any evidence to show that Luffy and his crew might not have enough power for a Yonkou crew, yet after seeing DF fighting Luffy and his crew vs the SH's would be a good judgement of how far Luffy and his crew have come in the 2 years. Can't wait for that fight. :D
If you disagree and feel there is no need, can you explain why you think so?
There are some people who thinks that there will be another time skip since Luffy cannot become the PK at the age of 19, If it turn out to be true then that's a power up but I think they're strong enough to go deep into the NW and they have their own island where they will gain a power up (ie: Zoro-wano,Usopp-Elbaf, Luffy with dragon may be) also you're right about the yonkou crew but they will gain that power along the way, it will be just like Paradise but with a lot more power ups since they're already gaining enemies and is just the second island into the new world.
PS: I was thinking can we take the underground as a power balance as well? If so, once DD (head) is out wouldn't that disrupt the whole NW since he have business with countries.
won't the other brokers try to get the throne and fight among themselves
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@Neo:
Hello, first post. Caught up on anime and manga of One Piece. I'm not going to post a theory, I'm just asking you guys, do you think the SH crew will need to get stronger AGAIN to progress in the New World? If so, when, and how?
I am thinking maybe after Luffy Fighting DF. I know they got stronger from the time skip, but I think they have to get even stronger. Notice how there wasn't really a wall of difficulty in the Fish Islands? The only challenge was fighting underwater, but I'm just talking straight fighting skill. I have no idea how they might get stronger, but I'm sure it would be an opportunity that would just come to them in time. (With experience) It makes me wonder how Gol D. Roger progressed with his crew.
Now I don't have any evidence to show that Luffy and his crew might not have enough power for a Yonkou crew, yet after seeing DF fighting Luffy and his crew vs the SH's would be a good judgement of how far Luffy and his crew have come in the 2 years. Can't wait for that fight. :D
If you disagree and feel there is no need, can you explain why you think so?
Welcome to the forums, nice first post.
I don't think the Straw Hats need to get stronger for the time being, as I'm pretty sure they'll be able to overcome any challenge they face at the start of the New World, though they'll struggle here and there. The Straw Hats fighting Doflamingo's crew will undoubtedly cause them to grow stronger as it would be really good experience for them fighting a seasoned New World crew like Doffy's. And Luffy will undoubtedly grow from his fight with Doflamingo as he'll be pushed to his limit, though I'm sure Oda's been saving Luffy's new strongest move for his fight with Doffy so that will probably be what gives him the win.
The crew's rise in strength will be the same as it was on the first half of the Grand Line, naturally growing stronger along their journey.
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Yeah, I'm of the opinion they aren't at the level of guys like the admirals or yonkou yet, but that they'll grow naturally as they face new challenges like they did in the first half
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There are some people who thinks that there will be another time skip since Luffy cannot become the PK at the age of 19, If it turn out to be true then that's a power up but I think they're strong enough to go deep into the NW and they have their own island where they will gain a power up (ie: Zoro-wano,Usopp-Elbaf, Luffy with dragon may be) also you're right about the yonkou crew but they will gain that power along the way, it will be just like Paradise but with a lot more power ups since they're already gaining enemies and is just the second island into the new world.
PS: I was thinking can we take the underground as a power balance as well? If so, once DD (head) is out wouldn't that disrupt the whole NW since he have business with countries.
won't the other brokers try to get the throne and fight among themselvesThere's not going to be another time skip before Raftel. Calling it right now.
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Yeah, I'm of the opinion they aren't at the level of guys like the admirals or yonkou yet, but that they'll grow naturally as they face new challenges like they did in the first half
Bingo.…...............
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There doesn't need to be another timeskip, and if there is one, it will probably be a year long one as opposed to 2 or longer. But like I said, it isn't needed really. The crew will develop through actual experience fighting people in the New World, and not isolated on some island.
Beating Doflamingo and his crew will be the stepping stone to taking down a Yonko, and, to be honest, this seemingly important and powerful "Jack" guy will probably be another. Not to mention the first 2 Yonko the Strawhat Crew take down (Big Mom and Kaido) will be taken down through the use of plans and alliances; it WILL NOT be a solo effort.
The only Yonko that will be brought down solo by the Strawhat Crew (more than likely) will be Blackbeard, and that will be close to the end of the series, before the Final War, on Raftel.
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There doesn't need to be another timeskip, and if there is one, it will probably be a year long one as opposed to 2 or longer. But like I said, it isn't needed really. The crew will develop through actual experience fighting people in the New World, and not isolated on some island.
Beating Doflamingo and his crew will be the stepping stone to taking down a Yonko, and, to be honest, this seemingly important and powerful "Jack" guy will probably be another. Not to mention the first 2 Yonko the Strawhat Crew take down (Big Mom and Kaido) will be taken down through the use of plans and alliances; it WILL NOT be a solo effort.
The only Yonko that will be brought down solo by the Strawhat Crew (more than likely) will be Blackbeard, and that will be close to the end of the series, before the Final War, on Raftel.
And I suspect Shanks and his crew will be defeated or worse by Blackbeard or some such near that end, raising the emotional stakes even further.
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@Monkey:
There's not going to be another time skip before Raftel. Calling it right now.
I can see a small time skip occurring after they find out OP since the will need time to gather allies and go on a full out war against the WG
@The:
There doesn't need to be another timeskip, and if there is one, it will probably be a year long one as opposed to 2 or longer. But like I said, it isn't needed really. The crew will develop through actual experience fighting people in the New World, and not isolated on some island.
Beating Doflamingo and his crew will be the stepping stone to taking down a Yonko, and, to be honest, this seemingly important and powerful "Jack" guy will probably be another. Not to mention the first 2 Yonko the Strawhat Crew take down (Big Mom and Kaido) will be taken down through the use of plans and alliances; it WILL NOT be a solo effort.
The only Yonko that will be brought down solo by the Strawhat Crew (more than likely) will be Blackbeard, and that will be close to the end of the series, before the Final War, on Raftel.
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shanks' crew will be defeated by bartolomeo's crew. lol :D
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shanks' crew will be defeated by bartolomeo's crew. lol :D
That indeed would be the ultimate trolling.
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@Monkey:
And I suspect Shanks and his crew will be defeated or worse by Blackbeard or some such near that end, raising the emotional stakes even further.
Yep I'm thinking the same thing. It fits in the story perfectly. The two characters have a history and I really think all of the original yonko will be taken down eventually so who better than Blackbeard to get at Shanks?
Also I think the Straw Hats will have a nice solo showdown with Big Mam's crew. I mean it would be more fun that way so why not do it? An old fashioned brawl between two crews, perhaps on that candy island of hers or somewhere with a lot of speculators like on one of her owned islands.
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The only thing that makes me wonder about the whole "timeline" is how most of the other pirates in the series up until now (mostly roger) were much older and seasoned pirates before they conquered the new world. (whitebeard as well to an extent). That doesn't really mean Luffy can't do something how he is now, but I think there is a chance they could have some kind of event that leads to a timeskip.
This is mostly just theory but, a timeskip would require either a seperation of the crew or some kind of weird DF user that can send the strawhats back in time. (Then they would have an arc to get back but end up losing a year? or something? idk this is mostly just random ideas off the top of my head).
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I think a time skip may be necessary. It really depends on the true capabilities of the SHs now which I'm guessing we'll see this arc, as well as how long their New World travel is, I mean the first half was less than a year, I'd say this should be 3 or 4 years (to match with Roger).
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I don't think there will be a timeskip in the traditional sense during that time. I see them finding the Rio and then a bunch of narration explaining the gathering of allies and six or so months passes in just a few pages (I think I explained this well).
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Paradise took only 6 months but they only went towards NW, and in there I see them going up and down instead of just racing to Shaboandy. They will take 4-5 years to reach Raftel and even more to beat all Yonkou (should I call them emperors? I dunno why but ppl are getting quite intolerant with these japanese titles..)
Against facts there are no arguments.
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Paradise took only 6 months but they only went towards NW, and in there I see them going up and down instead of just racing to Shaboandy. They will take 4-5 years to reach Raftel and even more to beat all Yonkou (should I call them emperors? I dunno why but ppl are getting quite intolerant with these japanese titles..)
Yeah, Luffy should be around 24 or 25 at when he reach Raftel and I'm getting tired of the bolded area already
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Yep I'm thinking the same thing. It fits in the story perfectly. The two characters have a history and I really think all of the original yonko will be taken down eventually so who better than Blackbeard to get at Shanks?
BB definitely seems to be the fitting candidate for (really) each strong person out there who can
t be an opponent for Luffy in the story. Shanks definitely is the guy Luffy wants to revenge the most, whenever someone would defeat him, but Shanks seems to me like the kind of person who can handle shit for himself. So i dont doubt that BB vs Shanks the revenge could take place, where Luffy will get all the anger towards BB he still needs, but its almost to predictable. It might be the stuff we all want to see, but i could also imagine Shanks risking his life (not just his arm) so that Luffy could proceed being the special one. So Shanks being actually defeated by BB wouldnt rly fit this cool character…i would more lean towards the option that he has to sacrifice himself to keep the new generation going and in that process he might get killed.(maybe even by the hands of BB)Almost the same, but c`mon Oda has to spice it up at least a little, hehe.
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Yeah I agree. Shanks getting beaten would be utter shit. He was on par/stronger than WB ( I'll go with stronger since he is way younger and healthier.)
I just can't see BB defeating him, let alone killing or something + he ain't DF reliant so BB can't take him by surprise like he did with Ace.
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Yeah I agree. Shanks getting beaten would be utter shit. He was on par/stronger than WB ( I'll go with stronger since he is way younger and healthier.)
I just can't see BB defeating him, let alone killing or something + he ain't DF reliant so BB can't take him by surprise like he did with Ace.
You underestimate one of the main, if not the main, antagonist of the series. His progression from a mere nobody to a Yonko with one of the strongest (and the most evil) Logia, and the strongest Paramecia, is completely ridiculous.
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@The:
You underestimate one of the main, if not the main, antagonist of the series. His progression from a mere nobody to a Yonko with one of the strongest (and the most evil) Logia, and the strongest Paramecia, is completely ridiculous.
Blackbeard has two Logias.
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@Monkey:
Blackbeard has two Logias.
What…? Since...what? When?
He has the Yami Yami no Mi (Darkness Logia), and the Gura Gura no Mi (Tremor/Quake Paramecia). Am I...missing something?
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@The:
What…? Since...what? When?
He has the Yami Yami no Mi (Darkness Logia), and the Gura Gura no Mi (Tremor/Quake Paramecia). Am I...missing something?
Oops nevermind, had a brainfart and thought you were calling the Yami Yami a paramecia, and briefly forgot the Earthquake fruit.
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@The:
You underestimate one of the main, if not the main, antagonist of the series. His progression from a mere nobody to a Yonko with one of the strongest (and the most evil) Logia, and the strongest Paramecia, is completely ridiculous.
Shanks became a Yonko in a short span of time with only one damn arm. BB got thrown around by WB like a ragdoll. Yeah I understand he is feared now and powerful, but it is not like Shanks was sitting on his head for the past 2 years.
We shall see.
! God I don't wanna see Shanks getting beaten. If it happens please let it be offscreen :cwy:
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@Monkey:
Blackbeard has two Logias.
Oh, ok.
I was scared for a second. Thought I missed something big in One Piece. lol
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God I don't wanna see Shanks getting beaten. If it happens please let it be offscreen :cwy:
See, this is why it would be such a great story thing.
Because we would all be like "NOOOOOOOOOOO" and be pissed off like hell and wanting to see Luffy kick Blackbeard's ass lol.
That's fun storytelling! We should WANT Oda to play with our emotions.
