I don't have a problem with the things Ace said. He just wants to protect Luffy.
And not his crew and captain?
If Ace were frequently worried about Luffy, Ace would have kept Luffy away from saving Alabastre.
I don't have a problem with the things Ace said. He just wants to protect Luffy.
And not his crew and captain?
If Ace were frequently worried about Luffy, Ace would have kept Luffy away from saving Alabastre.
I don't have a problem with the things Ace said. He just wants to protect Luffy.
Bit too late for that when he's already a couple of hundred metres in front of him, on the battlefield.
And not his crew and captain?
If Ace were frequently worried about Luffy, Ace would have kept Luffy away from saving Alabastre.
Crew and captain are different from a little brother. Plus he knows Luffy hasn't reached that level of strength yet. He doesn't want to lose a lil bro over something he stupidly created. Ace didn't knw anything about Luffy trying to save Alabasta, unless you count the filler in the anime. Don't think he would have bothered anyway, especially against Crocodile alone… but this is a freakin war that Luffy has no chance in without protection from WB.
And not his crew and captain?
If Ace were frequently worried about Luffy, Ace would have kept Luffy away from saving Alabastre.
Erm, Ace tried to make those guys leave too in 552.
Also there's a difference between letting your brother follow his adventure and getting him involved in one of your screw-ups.
You're all gonna hate me for mentioning the forbidden word, but do you think Ivankov's death wink may be haki based? Believe me, I don't like blaming things on haki, but the way he uses it makes it feel like a form of it.
Also, I think Shanks is still facing Kaidou in the new world. Otherwise we probably would've seen him by now.
LOL are the marines dumb or what….? Luffy clearly said ,"I AM YOUR LITTLE BROTHER!!!" to Ace when Ace tried to stop him from saving him...but the Marines were talking about it not being possible because they killed Ace's parents when he was born. That would still prove NOTHING because if Luffy is younger then he would obviously be born before Ace....which was BEFORE they killed Ace's parents. I'm sorry it's a little confusing. Anywho, GREAT CHAPTER! really epic! :)
You're all gonna hate me for mentioning the forbidden word, but do you think Ivankov's death wink may be haki based? Believe me, I don't like blaming things on haki, but the way he uses it makes it feel like a form of it.
I keep saying, it's air displacement. That's how he does it.
If he is younger, he was born after, not before Ace… :ninja:
I don't really mind Ace's remarks to Luffy but I do dislike how uncool and wimpy his character is starting to look. He needs to say something badass and hardcore to Sengoku, stat, like Roger would. Overall I like how things are going but I don't want his execution implausibly delayed as the ground situation gets worse. If the Marines seriously intend to execute him, they'd best appear to get on with it soon, and not seem like they're just wasting time.
If he is younger, he was born after, not before Ace… :ninja:
Exactly… the marines are just being racional about it... if your younger brother was born before u.... u have a screw up family i may say
LOL are the marines dumb or what….? Luffy clearly said ,"I AM YOUR LITTLE BROTHER!!!" to Ace when Ace tried to stop him from saving him...but the Marines were talking about it not being possible because they killed Ace's parents when he was born. That would still prove NOTHING because if Luffy is younger then he would obviously be born before Ace....which was BEFORE they killed Ace's parents. I'm sorry it's a little confusing. Anywho, GREAT CHAPTER! really epic! :)
Yes, the marines are dumb… and you, sir, should ease up on the 'shrooms.
Wow, this is one of those chapters that are somehow more amazing than the rest. To have so much dialouge while fighting is awesome.
Plus we found out Kuma is with Dragon, and WB said one of the most epic things ever: "Marco…I won't forgive you if you let that boy die."
I cannot wait until next week!
Overall this chapter wasn't bad, but i guess the thing is that you cant draw what every character is doing all the time in such a big scale war. Wonder what Kizaru is doing lol.
I guess i didn't like the part where Luffy just when Gear 2 and then Gear 3 without having feeling anything. I guess it would have wasted a panel, oh well.
So actually luffy after escaping kizaru,kuma and hina with great feints moves and breaking the first giant and zombies defensive line stomping them just receive a long pass from whitebeard and is running with the ball.
marco is his actual close blocker for the run while iva and jimbei are trying to cut reinforcements lines from opposite team. already 22 yards done for this aggresive second try. But nothing is done and everything can end in a tragedy remembering last runner oaks who just die from a heart uppercut on the second defensive line in the first try
Still 78 yards left to ace line goal…
Your buddy buggy from the side field will not let you let down and will bravely stay to comment such an historic event ..oh the studio in archipelago islands are calling for a commercial.time for pizza and beer.
-"something to add mr3?"
-"err... he definitely have the spirit of a dragon and the IQ of an oyster"
-" I couldn't have said better...See ya soon"
@123:
Overall this chapter wasn't bad, but i guess the thing is that you cant draw what every character is doing all the time in such a big scale war. Wonder what Kizaru is doing lol.
I guess i didn't like the part where Luffy just when Gear 2 and then Gear 3 without having feeling anything. I guess it would have wasted a panel, oh well.
i think luffy going gear 2 and 3, so quick is due to because where about to see him get new abilities or power, so instead of waiting, i think (Oda) is making luffy going all out, so that when the time comes for a new power i.e. (Haki Time) everything will fit in place instead of wasting time, at least that's how i see it for now.:ninja:
The question is who will luffy fight, a warlord, or admiral, going from this chapter i think, we are about to see a,
Luffy+Marco Vs Kizaru = next week.
As awesome as this chapter was I wish I could see Kuma say something for a change and see Hancock do some fighting.
In the middle of a battle that will determine the fate of the world you should not be standing there going:wub: (LUFFFFFFFFFFFYYYYYYYYYY)
Please Oda let us see Hancock in action….I mean a actually fight with a top tier!
So actually luffy after escaping kizaru,kuma and hina with great feints moves and breaking the first giant and zombies defensive line stomping them just receive a long pass from whitebeard and is running with the ball.
marco is his actual close blocker for the run while iva and jimbei are trying to cut reinforcements lines from opposite team. already 22 yards done for this aggresive second try. But nothing is done and everything can end in a tragedy remembering last runner oaks who just die from a heart uppercut on the second defensive line in the first try
Still 78 yards left to ace line goal…Your buddy buggy from the side field will not let you let down and will bravely stay to comment such an historic event ..oh the studio in archipelago islands are calling for a commercial.time for beer. See ya soon
i got to agree with that bold part, buggy is just halirious, i can't get enough of the guy, mark my words, i know he seem's worthless now, but i can see him doing something BIG before this WAR ends.:ninja:
As awesome as this chapter was I wish I could see Kuma say something for a change and see Hancock do some fighting.
In the middle of a battle that will determine the fate of the world you should not be standing there going:wub: (LUFFFFFFFFFFFYYYYYYYYYY)Please Oda let us see Hancock in action….I mean a actually fight with a top tier!
i got to say you do have a point there, but look at it this way she is LOVE, like that elder women said is call LOVE HURRICANE, she's obviously still effected by being were luffy is, but am sure once more fighters come, her attitude will change and get serious, and ready for battle again.
to be honest i don't know exactly how strong boa hancock is, but all i know hancock's biggest weakness right now is luffy, all luffy has to do is go and look at her face to face, and love sickness will kick in even more, man talk about having such a power over a women like that, but it seems like luffy doesn't realise that.
I don't really mind Ace's remarks to Luffy but I do dislike how uncool and wimpy his character is starting to look. He needs to say something badass and hardcore to Sengoku, stat, like Roger would. Overall I like how things are going but I don't want his execution implausibly delayed as the ground situation gets worse. If the Marines seriously intend to execute him, they'd best appear to get on with it soon, and not seem like they're just wasting time.
Ya know, people keep saying this, but do they realize that Ace is completely helpless in this situation? Ace isn't the coolest character but he's in no position to be Roger right now. Talking and begging is all he can do now, and I guess that inheritable looks wimpy, but he is (rather selfishly) putting everyone else before himself.
I hope Luffy doesn't confront Doflmingo yet or, if he does, there's still a later more full battle. I have a feeling that the fight might happen due to the entire 'Luffy's team vs. Shichibukai' theme, but nothing's set in stone and Doflamingo deserves a better place than a small scale defeat in an epic scale war.
If the zombies are meant to be fallen marines I just don't see why some of them would have animal parts, not to mention they appear to be breaking out of the ground.
Dr.Hogback underground making zombies :P.
The war is getting even more exciting as the chapters go on.
I just still wonder though, what the hell is Das Bones (Mr.1) doing ? We saw him falling with everyone else two chapters ago and then he just went missing…
i got to say you do have a point there, but look at it this way she is LOVE, like that elder women said is call LOVE HURRICANE, she's obviously still effected by being were luffy is, but am sure once more fighters come, her attitude will change and get serious, and ready for battle again.
to be honest i don't know exactly how strong boa hancock is, but all i know hancock's biggest weakness right now is luffy, all luffy has to do is go and look at her face to face, and love sickness will kick in even more, man talk about having such a power over a women like that, but it seems like luffy doesn't realise that.
lol, of course. It's Luffy. Luffy is always in his own world. But, I do agree with the Love Hurricane part. It's just that Oda got us so hyped for this war, and we all thought we would see our favorite Top Tiers in action….and all we've seen is them do one or two attacks so far. I mean, I understand that Oda isn't gonna show an actual fight for each character, and that he doesn't wanna deface the top tier characters that everyone (us fans) go bananas over....but it's a little irritating when they just appear a few panals then be gone for the next few chapters or go googly eye in the middle of a war.
Also, could some explain to me who's that guy on page 3 (3rd panal) that looks like he's Luffy in Gear 2? Is that Luffy, I thought he ran into the war?
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Kuma's not a PX. This Kuma is clearly holding the bible,which is the Real Kuma's trademark.
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@Captain Brooke - It's Marco.
lol, of course. It's Luffy. Luffy is always in his own world. But, I do agree with the Love Hurricane part. It's just that Oda got us so hyped for this war, and we all thought we would see our favorite Top Tiers in action….and all we've seen is them do one or two attacks so far. I mean, I understand that Oda isn't gonna show an actual fight for each character, and that he doesn't wanna deface the top tier characters that everyone (us fans) go bananas over....but it's a little irritating when they just appear a few panals then be gone for the next few chapters or go googly eye in the middle of a war.
Also, could some explain to me who's that guy on page 3 (3rd panal) that looks like he's Luffy in Gear 2? Is that Luffy, I thought he ran into the war?
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thats marco .
That is probably Marco.
Ohhhh, thanks guys!
LOL are the marines dumb or what….? Luffy clearly said ,"I AM YOUR LITTLE BROTHER!!!" to Ace when Ace tried to stop him from saving him...but the Marines were talking about it not being possible because they killed Ace's parents when he was born. That would still prove NOTHING because **if Luffy is younger then he would obviously be born before Ace….**which was BEFORE they killed Ace's parents.
I have no facepalm.jpg strong enough to express my current emotion.
And not his crew and captain?
If Ace were frequently worried about Luffy, Ace would have kept Luffy away from saving Alabastre.
Luffy is his little brother. it's a combination of his ego, and the fact he doesn't want Luffy to get hurt. He protects luffy, it's been shown time and time again he doesn't want anything bad to happen to luffy. he knows luffy is in way over his head.
And besides Ace is upset because of his own arrogance. His arrogance is why he was captured and why everyone is risking their lives to save Ace.
@123:
I guess i didn't like the part where Luffy just when Gear 2 and then Gear 3 without having feeling anything. I guess it would have wasted a panel, oh well.
Isn't it that Ivankoff gave Luffy hormones that heal and doesn't make him tire for days is still active on his body?
i think luffy going gear 2 and 3, so quick is due to because where about to see him get new abilities or power, so instead of waiting, i think (Oda) is making luffy going all out, so that when the time comes for a new power i.e. (Haki Time) everything will fit in place instead of wasting time, at least that's how i see it for now.:ninja:
The question is who will luffy fight, a warlord, or admiral, going from this chapter i think, we are about to see a,
Luffy+Marco Vs Kizaru = next week.
I hope Luffy doesn't confront Doflmingo yet or, if he does, there's still a later more full battle. I have a feeling that the fight might happen due to the entire 'Luffy's team vs. Shichibukai' theme, but nothing's set in stone and Doflamingo deserves a better place than a small scale defeat in an epic scale war.
Why do people keep thinking Luffy will get to fight? All we're going to see is him making more and more progress towards Ace till he finally runs out of allies and is restrained; his friends&allies finally taking casualties. He might use Haki to hit Smoker or something before getting restrained but not much else.
Surely won't be knocking Don Flammingo around. Luffy runs into him and he'll be instantly strung up. Wouldn't be surprised if he made Luffy attempt to kill Ace for fun, setting him up as the Villain we always knew he would be.
Can't do anything against Kizaru so no possibility of helping Marco face him. After Marco, Hancock, Buggy(accidently of course), and possibly Joz&Garp will intervene as Smoker will inevitably attack Luffy and Sengoku&Akainu are still near Ace. John Giant and Aokiji have been mysteriously absent for a long time too. A random VA like Onigumo or Momonga may show us there stuff too.
@Uzumaki_D_Kenichi:
Wow, this is one of those chapters that are somehow more amazing than the rest. To have so much dialouge while fighting is awesome.
Plus we found out Kuma is with Dragon, and WB said one of the most epic things ever: "Marco…I won't forgive you if you let that boy die."
Actually he said: "Marco…don't you dare let that boy die."
Why do people keep thinking Luffy will get to fight? All we're going to see is him making more and more progress towards Ace till he finally runs out of allies and is restrained; his friends&allies finally taking casualties. He might use Haki to hit Smoker or something before getting restrained but not much else.
Surely won't be knocking Don Flammingo around. Luffy runs into him and he'll be instantly strung up. Wouldn't be surprised if he made Luffy attempt to kill Ace for fun, setting him up as the Villain we always knew he would be.
Can't do anything against Kizaru so no possibility of helping Marco face him. After Marco, Hancock, Buggy(accidently of course), and possibly Joz&Garp will intervene as Smoker will inevitably attack Luffy and Sengoku&Akainu are still near Ace. John Giant and Aokiji have been mysteriously absent for a long time too. A random VA like Onigumo or Momonga may show us there stuff too.
Uh, considering Luffy's role in each arc and the nature of shonen, can you blame us? Jaya could have been nothing but a set up for Skypiea and the events that are happening in this war, but Luffy still got his fight with Bellamy. Lucci was arguably an arbitrary character in his own arc, yet he got one of the longer fights with Luffy. Saying a fight won't happen, no matter how logical is seems, is still like a 50/50 chance here.
True, this style of brief skirmishes against against random fighters is cool and works well, but can you imagine how cool a real focused battle in the middle of this war could potentially be? On top of that, hey, Luffy's got a good record of great fights! (in my opinion, in case anyone wants to ruin my fun)
Isn't it that Ivankoff gave Luffy hormones that heal and doesn't make him tire for day
sis still active on his body?
Hmm maybe you're right.I suppose the after effect would be much more terrible with Gear 2nd being used. With Luffy using up Gear 2nd and 3rd, I'm hoping for some wacky one-shot power up before the whole Haki thingy.
Why do people keep thinking Luffy will get to fight?
Because he already is fighting?
Surely won't be knocking Don Flammingo around. Luffy runs into him and he'll be instantly strung up. Wouldn't be surprised if he made Luffy attempt to kill Ace for fun, setting him up as the Villain we always knew he would be.
I've considered that possibility and it would indeed be cool. I can't control Oda, though, and based on the way he's structured the Team Luffy vs WG battles (Team Luffy vs Shichibukai), I wouldn't be surprised. As I said, though, I think that it would be an unfortunate waste.
I think Luffy will be stopped by someone like Aokiji, Smoker or perhaps even Akainu just when he's about to get to Ace and then Luffy will surprise everyone by hitting them directly with a Haki-infused punch.
Oars Jr. (deceased)
Do you honestly believe that? People don't die in this series unless it's a flashback; he'll probably just 'wake up' at the end of the arc :P
@Kairouseki:
It was Sengoku over his loudspeaker snail.
@Hirscher:
sengoku, look he has the den den mushi in his hand speaking out to everyone
Thanks, it wasn't that obvious to me
"Hina fail" should be a new meme.
Great Chapter!. if the notice about of Dragon´s son runs around the world, i want to arrives to Alabasta, and i hope Nefertari Cobra say something. Surely it would be awesome. and for finish, i don´t know how Luffy´s going to save Ace. He needs a power-up now.
Uh, considering Luffy's role in each arc and the nature of shonen, can you blame us? Jaya could have been nothing but a set up for Skypiea and the events that are happening in this war, but Luffy still got his fight with Bellamy. Lucci was arguably an arbitrary character in his own arc, yet he got one of the longer fights with Luffy. Saying a fight won't happen, no matter how logical is seems, is still like a 50/50 chance here.
True, this style of brief skirmishes against against random fighters is cool and works well, but can you imagine how cool a real focused battle in the middle of this war could potentially be? On top of that, hey, Luffy's got a good record of great fights! (in my opinion, in case anyone wants to ruin my fun)
Extended 1on1 fights are always cool and the highlight of a shounen manga. However in this scenario 1on1 fights do not make much sense. I didn't neglect the possibility to a short scuffle. How cool it would be doesn't matter. No reason Luffy would find himself in a situation where he'll face somebody his level while lower level guys stand down and tougher guys just decide to let it play out for a few chapters.
Pacing right now is way to fast with too many things going on for the traditional shounen fights to take place. I like it this way too, much better than other big war/royal rumbls in other series(like bleach currently) where many fighters stand around doing nothing. Some given excuses(usually poor or made moot once the fighting is over) and some unexaplainably standing around jerking off.
Its not like any win for Luffy would be relevant anyhow. Any victory in a fight doesn't really advance his goal just like defeating Magellan wouldn't have brought him any closer to Ace. All his previous wins guranteed some kind of victory whether that be saving a friend or land or simply proving a point. A win against anybody but the Admirals or Sengoku(which ain't happening) is nothing more than a further pain in the ass for Luffy.
So much Dragon talk maybe he will show himself next chapters… But first we have BB. I want to see what happened in ID and what he was searching for in level 6. And don't forget Magellan.
BTW
So the trans was wrong and Jimbei never said Moria is his opponent
@Jim13ei:
So much Dragon talk maybe he will show himself next chapters…
Ye I never thought he would because he couldn't know Luffy would be there, but now…
But first we have BB. I want to see what happened in ID and what he was searching for in level 6. And don't forget Magellan.
I hope he frees those 3 uber-criminals that Ivankov mentionned. Together with Shiryuu he'll have 8 then and caught up to Luffy's crew size :)
dragon or BB can make an appearance in the next few episodes,will be cool to see Wb gives a speech or something,and Bb comes and tell him to shut up or something and does his power thing…
doflamingo vs buggy would be a weird fight :wassat:
I don't think doflamingo is interested in small fries. It would be too easy to control buggy and make him jump into the ocean…
Or force buggy to stab/shoot himself.
Regarding dragon joining the war:
We don't know where he is. And it's not like he can teleport himself to the MHQ. He will probably not make it in time to the MHQ. Even if he hear the news. Ivankov is there to keep luffy alive. Luffy will also get the help of marco. That should be enough.
I don't think doflamingo is interested in small fries. It would be too easy to control buggy and make him jump into the ocean…
Or force buggy to stab/shoot himself.Regarding dragon joining the war:
We don't know where he is. And it's not like he can teleport himself to the MHQ. He will probably not make it in time to the MHQ. Even if he hear the news. Ivankov is there to keep luffy alive. Luffy will also get the help of marco. That should be enough.
The way WB commented on Sengoku's plan, makes me think the marines have something planned that will turn the tides heavily in their favor. I never considered Dragon showing up, but the emphasis put on him this chapter makes me consider it a possibility. His underling Ivankov is there, and his son. And he might not be far away at all, remember the mentions of a 'strange wind' in earlier chapters, those might have been foreshadowing. Dragon can then turn the tide back towards the WB/Luffy front. And when BB shows up and takes down WB, he can provide a means of escape for Luffy and Ace.
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Oh and to elaborate on what I said earlier about Blackbeard.. Catarina Devon, the most dangerous woman ever to be imprisoned in ID in the entire pirate age.. Shiryuu will be zoro's opponent, so this could be the one to fight for Boa Hancock. (when she joins the crew.. yes I know a lot of conjecture here :P)