Chapter 553 "Battle of the Highest" Discussion

huron

@Monkey:

damn no chapter :(

yeah no chapter on monday,as usual…

Neomaster121

@Monkey:

damn no chapter :(

what you talking about reread this chapter

123

@ OldSnake, whats the show in which your signature characters appear in? Damn i have a bad memory.

Kishido

@Besserwisser:

Yeah, this is the translation from Nagumo and I had a unsure feeling about the translation, too. But at least I think they were more accurate than from strikertp.

I am satisfied with your translation, I don’t see in your translation a compare of strength like KiShiDo mentioned:
I'm just going to measure the "true" distance between us and that man… who seems close to us in appearance.

But don’t misunderstand me, I can’t Japanese. I only rate the translations because of the German translation where I put my trust in.

Because you’re phrase, close, but far away.
For me it seems that he is close enough to attack him but is far away because there attacks have a large distance.

He's poetically alluding the fact that although Whitebeard is right there in front of them, close by, in truth he may be far ahead of them.

You still don't get it…

Neomaster121

@KiShiDo:

He's poetically alluding the fact that although Whitebeard is right there in front of them, close by, in truth he may be far ahead of them.

You still don't get it…

but translations seem to be talking about distance not power

Besserwisser

@KiShiDo:

He's poetically alluding the fact that although Whitebeard is right there in front of them, close by, in truth he may be far ahead of them.

You still don't get it…

You don’t get it, even if he speaks about strength it wouldn’t matter because to see the difference in strength they must fight a 1:1 duel. Further Whitebeard is known as strongest man in the world, it isn’t a shame if you will see how far you are away from him. It could be far or it could be zero or anything between them. So from this point of view we aren’t smarter than before.

Kishido

You have to think deeper in that one… that's why poetically

@Besserwisser

I get it and it dsoesn't matter in my eyes if he is as strong it not… but he wants to see it if he is with him at the same level.

on german

Du kannst... Wie weit bist du von mir entfernt (Reichweite)
oder der gleiche Satz, wenn ein Konurrent ne Nasenlänge vor dir ist in einer bestimmten Sache

Neomaster121

@KiShiDo:

You have to think deeper in that one… that's why poetically

could it be

your thinking too deeply

Kishido

@Neomaster121:

could it be

your thinking too deeply

Nope cuz I believe in Aohiges words and other translation are saying it that way.

Besserwisser

@KiShiDo:

@Besserwisser

I get it and it dsoesn't matter in my eyes if he is as strong it not… but he wants to see it if he is with him at the same level.

Yeah, who wouldn’t like to know if he is on the level with the strongest man of the World? I don’t disagree in this point.
@KiShiDo:

on german

Du kannst… Wie weit bist du von mir entfernt (Reichweite)
oder der gleiche Satz, wenn ein Konurrent ne Nasenlänge vor dir ist in einer bestimmten Sache

Hm, deinen Englischen Satz habe ich weit besser verstanden. Keine Ahnung was du mir damit sagen willst, jedenfalls steht nichts davon dass Sie eine Nasenlänge entfernt sind. Möglicherweise sind Sie es, aber das wäre eh nur eine kleine Entfernung. Ich habe jedenfalls erst vor das zu beurteilen wenn Sie wirklich aufeinander treffen und zwar länger als nur ein einziger Schlagabtausch.

Phoenix Zoan

Thank god for Aohige clearing up mistranslations. So he was trying to test his strength.

Kishido

@Besserwisser:

Yeah, who wouldn’t like to know if he is on the level with the strongest man of the World? I don’t disagree in this point.
Hm, deinen Englischen Satz habe ich weit besser verstanden. Keine Ahnung was du mir damit sagen willst, jedenfalls steht nichts davon dass Sie eine Nasenlänge entfernt sind. Möglicherweise sind Sie es, aber das wäre eh nur eine kleine Entfernung. Ich habe jedenfalls erst vor das zu beurteilen wenn Sie wirklich aufeinander treffen und zwar länger als nur ein einziger Schlagabtausch.

I just want to correct that this statement from Mihawl wasn't about the attack-range but more about strenght.

German.
Ich weiß leider nciht wie alt du bist, um sowas im Kontext zu verstehen.

Wenn man sagt, "Er ist vor mir" kann man damit sagen, dass ein Konkurrent stärker bzw immer noch nicht erreicht ist. Aber genug deutsch sonst kriegen wir Ärger xD

@Phoenix:

Thank god for Aohige clearing up mistranslations. So he was trying to test his strength.

Yeah finally…

Besserwisser

@KiShiDo:

I just want to correct that this statement from Mihawl wasn't about the attack-range but more about strenght.

I don’t think you have the competence to correct it, me either. I thought you will wait for the english translation by c-net or svg. I haven’t found them, yet. But for me it doesn’t matter if he speaks about range or streangth or distance in a poetically way.
@KiShiDo:

German.
Ich weiß leider nciht wie alt du bist, um sowas im Kontext zu verstehen.

Wenn man sagt, "Er ist vor mir" kann man damit sagen, dass ein Konkurrent stärker bzw immer noch nicht erreicht ist. Aber genug deutsch sonst kriegen wir Ärger xD

Ich verstehe schon den Kontext. Denke aber dass du dich nur auf eine Übersetzung +dessen Meinung verlässt. Du scheinst die Korrekturen die strikertp hier gepostet hat völlig zu missachten, welche ich bei der Antwort an dich mit drangehängt habe. Ich kenne nur 4 Übersetzungen, eine Deutsch 3 auf Englisch, wovon bei der von OneManga zugegeben wurde das Fehler gemacht wurden. Soweit ich es verstanden habe ist Japanisch eine schwere Sprache und nur weil einer darin etwas poetisches sieht heißt es noch lange nicht dass dies zu 100% zutrifft. Im Endeffekt steht in der eigentlichen Übersetzung nichts Poetisches drin, mal sehen ob ein anderer Übersetzer diese Poesie auch in die Übersetzung mit reinbringt.

PS: Wenn du mich in Deutsch ansprechen willst, schreib mich lieber per PM an.

Kishido

@Besserwisser:

I don’t think you have the competence to correct it, me either. I thought you will wait for the english translation by c-net or svg. I haven’t found them, yet. But for me it doesn’t matter if he speaks about range or streangth or distance in a poetically way.
Ich verstehe schon den Kontext. Denke aber dass du dich nur auf eine Übersetzung +dessen Meinung verlässt. Du scheinst die Korrekturen die strikertp hier gepostet hat völlig zu missachten, welche ich bei der Antwort an dich mit drangehängt habe. Ich kenne nur 4 Übersetzungen, eine Deutsch 3 auf Englisch, wovon bei der von OneManga zugegeben wurde das Fehler gemacht wurden. Soweit ich es verstanden habe ist Japanisch eine schwere Sprache und nur weil einer darin etwas poetisches sieht heißt es noch lange nicht dass dies zu 100% zutrifft. Im Endeffekt steht in der eigentlichen Übersetzung nichts Poetisches drin, mal sehen ob ein anderer Übersetzer diese Poesie auch in die Übersetzung mit reinbringt.

PS: Wenn du mich in Deutsch ansprechen willst, schreib mich lieber per PM an.

Well OK let us wait for the c-net or SVG but I doubt we will get one this week.

But I still put my believes in Aohige's trans

herr_sebbe

Feels like those Germans are plotting something… :getlost:

By the way, if 554 is coming this week, does anyone know whether it will appear early or late in comparision to normal chapter weeks?

Kishido

@herr_sebbe:

Feels like those Germans are plotting something… :getlost:

By the way, if 554 is coming this week, does anyone know whether it will appear early or late in comparision to normal chapter weeks?

the 3rd WW… Well no but sorry for posting in german here.

About chapter this week. I think we will get it later this week than usually

SillyDragons

I thought we were getting spoilers next week…

Neomaster121

@SillyDragons:

I thought we were getting spoilers next week…

we might

but let me tell you monday is very early for spoilers
and if we did get them today it would be late in the day

i think we might get spoilers tomorrow

Fiasco.

I hope we get a break this week, let the Mihawk fanboys simmer.

ThunderEarthFire

Enough about when the spoilers/chapter will come out just be patient jeez …

Let's discuss something else ... does anyone think Akainu could have done anything this chapter? Maybe his abilities couldn't come into play yet.

Neomaster121

@ThunderEarthFire:

Enough about when the spoilers/chapter will come out just be patient jeez …

Let's discuss something else ... does anyone think Akainu could have done anything this chapter? Maybe his abilities couldn't come into play yet.

what do you not realise what he did

the way he noticed ajoki dissappearing so fast

the way he twichted his ear in the last chapter

akainu is god umongst admirals

seriously tho

hes either logia or human

GaaraofTheDesert

Mihawk"s attack was like Crocodile"s Desert Spada.

Fiasco.

@GaaraofTheDesert:

Mihawk"s attack was like Crocodile"s Desert Spada.

Why ?

GaaraofTheDesert

Both attacks cut the ground in a similar way

HaxeyeMihawk

We need a chapter this week because if we have to stretch this chapter discussion an extra week then I'm afraid that the shichi thread will find a way to take over in here, screams and runs for the hills.

Aohige_AP

KiShiDo is correct.
He's talking about the distance between them, in both literal and abstract ways.
He's close (literally near by, in distance) but far away (high above all else in matter of figure as a man, and strength).

That's a common phrase even in English, when describing the relationship between two people.
The other may be very close in proximity, but in truth, there's a lot of (non-literal) obstactles and distance hindering the two.

meOme

@herr_sebbe:

Feels like those Germans are plotting something… :getlost:

Oh ja, die Verschwörung ist in vollem Gange. Die Zeit der Forenübernahme ist nahe! Alle Mann über Bord - Frauen, Kinder und Kanadier zuerst! :ninja:
@HaxeyeMihawk:

We need a chapter this week because if we have to stretch this chapter discussion an extra week then I'm afraid that the shichi thread will find a way to take over in here, screams and runs for the hills.

The Shichi thread will be captain and the next-nakama thread will be first mate. Piratecrew of doom, set sail! ARRR

MagneticMonkey

@Neomaster121:

what do you not realise what he did
the way he noticed ajoki dissappearing so fast
the way he twichted his ear in the last chapter
akainu is god umongst admirals

Woaaah if an admiral hasn't good reflexes as akainu showed he won't be an admiral right? It doesn't make sense that what we saw makes him a god amongst the admirals…

seriously tho
hes either logia or human

No seriously… I have no doubts that akainu is human...
There is no need to spread illogical stuff...

Jadosra

I would love a lot more if the chapter came in two weeks
Are you imagining the entire week of Mihawk fanboys discussing whatever Mihawk is able to cut Jozu or not?
^^

Fiasco.

@MagneticMonkey:

Woaaah if an admiral hasn't good reflexes as akainu showed he won't be an admiral right? It doesn't make sense that what we saw makes him a god amongst the admirals…

No seriously... I have no doubts that akainu is human...
There is no need to spread illogical stuff...

Uchiha is not human.

Captain Psychedelic

@Jadosra:

I would love a lot more if the chapter came in two weeks
Are you imagining the entire week of Mihawk fanboys discussing whatever Mihawk is able to cut Jozu or not?
^^

No thanks.

Jadosra

You know you want to :3

HaxeyeMihawk

@Jadosra:

I would love a lot more if the chapter came in two weeks
Are you imagining the entire week of Mihawk fanboys discussing whatever Mihawk is able to cut Jozu or not?
^^

The Mihawk talk is happening already, if we get something new then that's what will be talked about, though I wouldn't be surprised if this week is the break because I have a feeling that next chapter will be Luffy's entrance.

Jadosra

I hope not.
Don't get me wrong, I love Luffy, but he should enter later to have bigger chances to actually do something important.
If he enters now, someone like Akainu or Smoker could attack him as soon as he enters.
Also, he would cause a ruckus, we all know that he wouldn't be sneaky or quiet.

Captain Psychedelic

@Jadosra:

You know you want to :3

All week talking about how Godly Hawkeye is?

That sounds about as fun as….well it doesn't even sound fun.

Hinscher

You anti-mihawkers are actually the annoying ones. I don't see the mihawk fans caring. Hell when I read it not once did I think holy shit this nakes mihawk weak or strong

All I see is tons of people laughing saying take that mihawk fanboys and we are lik"what, take what?" Nothing happened

So I want a new chapter, hell a new arc actually cause these power rankings every week are getting annoying

Naisho

@Refii:

What mythology books are you reading? :wassat:

He is not reading them, he is smoking them.

Jadosra

@Hinscher:

You anti-mihawkers are actually the annoying ones. I don't see the mihawk fans caring. Hell when I read it not once did I think holy shit this nakes mihawk weak or strong

All I see is tons of people laughing saying take that mihawk fanboys and we are lik"what, take what?" Nothing happened

So I want a new chapter, hell a new arc actually cause these power rankings every week are getting annoying

God, Mihawk sure is weak
After all, its not like Jozu, 3rd Division Commander, thus fourth strongest in Whitebeard's crew, should be one of the strongest mans in the world.
ITS NOT LIKE HIS BOSS IS THE STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD, OR SOMETHING

Urouge

@Aohige_AP:

KiShiDo is correct.
He's talking about the distance between them, in both literal and abstract ways.
He's close (literally near by, in distance) but far away (high above all else in matter of figure as a man, and strength).

That's a common phrase even in English, when describing the relationship between two people.
The other may be very close in proximity, but in truth, there's a lot of (non-literal) obstactles and distance hindering the two.

I believe the phrase you're referring to in english is "so close, yet so far away."

Hinscher

You honestly don't believe that the division leaders are ranked in strength do you? We have no proof of that. And if they where then why wouldn't joze move up to 2 so long ago when it was uboccupied

I know you were just bs'ing to piss of mihawk fans with that but still just saying anyone who claims that is rank is about as safe a claim as saying strawhats are ranked in order of joining

Captain Psychedelic

@Hinscher:

You anti-mihawkers are actually the annoying ones. I don't see the mihawk fans caring. Hell when I read it not once did I think holy shit this nakes mihawk weak or strong

All I see is tons of people laughing saying take that mihawk fanboys and we are lik"what, take what?" Nothing happened

So I want a new chapter, hell a new arc actually cause these power rankings every week are getting annoying

I never said I was Anti-Mihawk, I'm sure he's a great guy. It's just I've seen so much about him, that is gets bad after awhile. I'm not Anti-Mihawk, I'm actually middle of the line.

Hisoga

@Aohige_AP:

KiShiDo is correct.
He's talking about the distance between them, in both literal and abstract ways.
He's close (literally near by, in distance) but far away (high above all else in matter of figure as a man, and strength).

That's a common phrase even in English, when describing the relationship between two people.
The other may be very close in proximity, but in truth, there's a lot of (non-literal) obstactles and distance hindering the two.

Thanks God…. If mihawk just saying something about the distance(meter) between WB and him rather than his strength/skills compare to WB, then One Piece is the stupidest fighting comic i ever read...:getlost:

Jadosra

@Hinscher:

You honestly don't believe that the division leaders are ranked in strength do you? We have no proof of that. And if they where then why wouldn't joze move up to 2 so long ago when it was uboccupied

I know you were just bs'ing to piss of mihawk fans with that but still just saying anyone who claims that is rank is about as safe a claim as saying strawhats are ranked in order of joining

Hum, you're actually right about that, I guess.

But, oh well, he's always being thinked off when you think of Whitebeard.
He is always shown when the Marines think of Blackbeard.
He was shown in the introduction of Shanks as an important character.
He had his introduction to his power along with Marco in this chapter.
He defended one of Mihawk's attacks, who is one of the strongest Shichibukais. (Any Shichibukai > Luffy, and Luffy is hella strong as seen in Luffy VS Lucci, so you can see it by that perspective).

So, Jozu must be at least 5th stronger, he can't be much less, unless Oda pulls off a Kubo shit and says that there's a "0" Division (I think that Ivotas theorized this, lol)

Kishido

@Aohige_AP:

KiShiDo is correct.
He's talking about the distance between them, in both literal and abstract ways.
He's close (literally near by, in distance) but far away (high above all else in matter of figure as a man, and strength).

That's a common phrase even in English, when describing the relationship between two people.
The other may be very close in proximity, but in truth, there's a lot of (non-literal) obstactles and distance hindering the two.

Thank U Aohige for correcting that phrase…

I hope Besserwisser and some other will now stop doubting it.

Sakonosolo

Why would the Division Comanders be ranked by something other than strength? I guess they could be ranked in reverse alphabetical order seeing as Marco follows Jozu .

Aohige_AP

^For example, Ace was appointed 2nd division captain simply because 2nd division had an open slot. Not because he was the third in the fleet.

1, 2, and 3 may well be Whitebeard's best, simply from their presentation, but to assume the numbering to simply be in order of strength may be hasty.

Sakonosolo

I guess. Maybe all the division commanders are as strong as each other?

Jadosra

Well, what matters is that Jozu is at least one of the strongest, so its no surprise that one of the strongest managed to withstand one attack from Mihawk

Zkaiser

Joze is so cash.

Sakonosolo

He's a pretty cool guy. Eh shines and doesn't afraid of anything.