I wonder if Oda is going to treat Haki like he did the Gears, in the sense that Luffy just pulls it out of nowhere and shows how much he can own, and then Oda decides to explain it's development afterwards while we as the reader never see Luffy training….
Chapter 523 "Hell" Discussion
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^Let's hope so, we've got plenty to see without sitting through training.
They must have had atleast several VAs if not 10 or 15…
…they were just patrol ships.
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@45°Dunc:
…they were just patrol ships.
I read through his post and somehow missed that he said that. >_>;
You're right. MHQ probably has 10 VAs at the most.
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Well what a f***** week for me…
Sanji is on gay island and I can't imagine what the hell he should learn from some homos... if he learns something gay like Okama Kenpo or whatever I have to quit being a fan of him... Same as if he starts kicking women...
I already quit Naruto for letting Kakashi die that shitty way so Oda please don't let me lose another fav...
But for the rest... The chapter was awesome so I have high hope in Oda...
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Well what a f***** week for me…
Sanji is on gay island and I can't imagine what the hell he should learn from some homos... if he learns something gay like Okama Kenpo or whatever I have to quit being a fan of him... Same as if he starts kicking women...
I already quit Naruto for letting Kakashi die that shitty way so Oda please don't let me lose another fav...
But for the rest... The chapter was awesome so I have high hope in Oda...
So..you quit One Piece because Oda would destroy Sanji?
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great chapter!!! i hope hancock joins the crew and i'm very curious where the hell zoro is.
has anybody of your recognized that on page 12 the last panel the weather looks stormy. maybe dragon is making his move too.
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No I will never quit One Piece… Naruto is an other story... Kishi destroyed the story...
Oda is a genius... I just said I will quit be a Sanji fan if he gets some homo stuff...
Sorry =)
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Well what a f***** week for me…
Sanji is on gay island and I can't imagine what the hell he should learn from some homos... if he learns something gay like Okama Kenpo or whatever I have to quit being a fan of him... Same as if he starts kicking women...
I already quit Naruto for letting Kakashi die that shitty way so Oda please don't let me lose another fav...
But for the rest... The chapter was awesome so I have high hope in Oda...
This is what makes Oda great IMO. You curse him swear you think he's going somewhere with something. You have no clue as to where he's going with something. Then once he unfolds it turns out perfect. Oda will have something up his sleeve he always does.
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anyone wanna bet when Handcock first meet the crew.. she'll kick the hell out of chopper?
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No I will never quit One Piece… Naruto is an other story... Kishi destroyed the story...
Oda is a genius... I just said I will quit be a Sanji fan if he gets some homo stuff...
Sorry =)
What part of him calling the island "hell" makes you think he's going to become gay? :wassat: His greatest defining trait is his unconditional love/obsession with women.
Anyway, I figure you're basically joking anyway. What I'm interested to see is if every member of the crew is going to learn new techniques, or just some of them. I wouldn't mind if some of them just had funny adventures and learned techniques some other time.
I'm really interested to see how SogeKing develops now!
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anyone wanna bet when Hancock first meet the crew.. she'll kick the hell out of chopper?
i'm hoping there is at least one scene where chopper is sleeping on the floor and hancock tells the strawhats who put this tanooki in front of her and then kicks chopper into the wall.
btw what do you think of the possibility of crocodile joining the strawhats and not boa? i would like to see a guy that was a major villain in one piece join luffy's crew. by major villain i mean somebody who was the final boss of an arc not some minor villain like franky and robin were. isn't crescent moon gary part of luffy's crew at the end of romance dawn? maybe oda has always planned for a major villain to join the strawhats at some point. if i had to make a choice i would probably choose hancock but i wouldn't be surprised if oda sprung this on us.
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What part of him calling the island "hell" makes you think he's going to become gay? :wassat: His greatest defining trait is his unconditional love/obsession with women.
Anyway, I figure you're basically joking anyway. What I'm interested to see is if every member of the crew is going to learn new techniques, or just some of them. I wouldn't mind if some of them just had funny adventures and learned techniques some other time.
I'm really interested to see how SogeKing develops now!
Yeah and if he would learn some gay stuff it would be tragic for his cool character
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There is only so much two legs can do. So maybe Kuma wanted to give Sanji some kind of extra training for his third leg.
Seriously, i don't know what you people worry about. Didn't it say, that only people with virgin hearts are on the island? Maybe there are some powerfull woman there.
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Well what a f***** week for me…
Sanji is on gay island and I can't imagine what the hell he should learn from some homos... if he learns something gay like Okama Kenpo or whatever I have to quit being a fan of him... Same as if he starts kicking women...
I already quit Naruto for letting Kakashi die that shitty way so Oda please don't let me lose another fav...
But for the rest... The chapter was awesome so I have high hope in Oda...
I don't know what made Kishi do that. Jiraiya dying was sad but he had to go anyway and that advances the plot. But Kakashi dying? WTF, nobody expected that and it's totally unnecessary. Kishi really ruined the manga by killing of one of his most popular characters in a not-nearly-as-great-as-it-should-have-been way (same thing Kubo did with Grimmjow).
One thing about Oda is that he never makes these mistakes. So he definitely isn't killing hancock. He doesn't kill even the relatively insignificant characters like pell and evil villains like spandam. That's why OP is on top. Oda doesn't have to do stuff like that for advancing the plot. As for those wanting hancock to die just because she exists/loves luffy/you don't like her, go read bleach or something. I don't know why you bother spoiling the atmosphere. Constructive criticism is OK but dragging on what no one else wants to read (or chooses to ignore) for pages in numerous threads is plain annoying
P.S. I'm a fan of sanji too. Hope he gives Kuma's face a taste of whatever he learns there ;)
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i'm hoping there is at least one scene where chopper is sleeping on the floor and hancock tells the strawhats who put this tanooki in front of her and then kicks chopper into the wall.
Hell, yes !!!
And everybody forgives her because she is so cute !
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i'm hoping there is at least one scene where chopper is sleeping on the floor and hancock tells the strawhats who put this tanooki in front of her and then kicks chopper into the wall.
btw what do you think of the possibility of crocodile joining the strawhats and not boa? i would like to see a guy that was a major villain in one piece join luffy's crew. by major villain i mean somebody who was the final boss of an arc not some minor villain like franky and robin were. isn't crescent moon gary part of luffy's crew at the end of romance dawn? maybe oda has always planned for a major villain to join the strawhats at some point. if i had to make a choice i would probably choose hancock but i wouldn't be surprised if oda sprung this on us.
I don't like croc.
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Why do people insist that the Spacey island and Machine Island are the same?
There are many Springfields, many Portlands, many Londons, but they're not all the same, are they? Maybe there are two islands of the same name.
But maybe not. Simply pointing out the possibility.
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Hell, yes !!!
And everybody forgives her because she is so cute !
If she joins the crew :wub:, that could be another running gag with her (the other one being the 'Recurrent Petrification' of Sanji :sad: and Brooke :ninja:)
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OMG! This chapter was funny and dramtic at the same time! XDDD
I love it where Franky just started dancing and where Sanji was being chased by a group of Transvestites…EPIC!!!! X3 -
He didn't say he would be back. He said if he comes back, next time he would bring his crew with him. This really is a farewell chapter, I don't think we are going to see the Kuja pirates again till we have the occasional reaction chapters at the end of arcs and when they get bounty raises. They had their party last chapter in celebration of the end, and for half of this chapter they said goodbye to both Luffy and Hancock. They even made sure that leadership had been changed over to her sisters and the pirate crew. And even Hancock said farewell to them.
I seriously don't think any of you guys should expect us to head back at all till the epilogue hits. Think about it for a sec. They need a ship that can cross the calm belt, they would have to go backwards past even Water Seven (Could take weeks to do and they were already in the middle of getting a coating to go to fishman island), and if/when Hancock has her title revoked, she will have absolute no way to get back home because she came on the marine ship. The minute her title is revoked I think we can say she is a strawhat, end of story. There is no way for her to get back outside of maybe using Kuma if he is still around and in a helpful mood. She would be jailed before even getting back to her homeland.
I just don't see how it won't end up with her being a strawhat before the end of this arc anymore. There is just too many things plot wise and character development wise that are getting in the way of her even returning to her home, much less having her personality change to make it so she can "live" without Luffy. She is closer to making it possible to be a strawhat than going back to her normal life, and it only promises to get closer with Luffy being an enemy now of the Tenryubito. The slave history is going to come up again, mark my words.
Edit: Oh also, I got another reason we won't see the strawhats going to Kuja island till the end… Sanji would leave the crew to stay on that island if they went there. =P
I agree with everything you said, except I think you might have missed one thing about her losing her title and betraying the WG: she can't go back since the WG is going to be looking for revenge. Wasn't one of the terms for her becoming a shichibukai, that her people would be safe from the WG? She was also already on bad terms with the WG with her agreeing to help and then backing out. She is one of their shichibukai and a very dangerous pirate, they aren't just going to let her betrayal go unpunished. Not only will she be betraying them, she will be helping out another notorious pirate in Luffy to interfere in a battle that could change the entire balance of power on the planet and helping to free one of WB commanders. Also, being that she is one of their shichibukai, it will humiliate them and with the egotistical people already shown in command, they aren't going to let that slide. I mean they wiped out an entire island pretty easily, I don't think they'd have a second thought for Amazon lily. It would be a huge plot hole if she could just go home and have everything be fine. So, in my opinion the only way for her to get out of having the WG retaliate on her kingdom is by ajoining herself to another people/faction/group, as in the SH pirates. Therefore, the government won't have any reason to attack her kingdom because Hancock won't be representing her people but instead will be apart of Luffys crew and helping her captain. Also, she will be travelling with the SH crew and won't be at the throne of her kingdom anymore, so they have no reason to waste resources attacking Amazon lily when there is no longer a powerful/traitorous ex-shichibukia there.
Just to touch on your idea about the slavery stuff popping up again, I completely agree since you could easily mention that as a possible dream for her. To free all the slaves just like she was freed by Fisher Tiger, to give the slaves the chance she was by his generous act to free humans and anyone else alike whether he liked their species or not. Also that she might have a dream of getting Luffy to return her feelings (even though, until the end of the manga, I doubt it would ever happen). or even notice her the way other men do, I mean he is completely immune to her looks and charm, which must be pretty damn frustrating when every other guy fell down at her feet (even a number of women) and the one guy she falls in love with is the only one that doesn't.
I think most of the people protesting Hancock joining the crew with wild theories and ideas, is because they want Margaret to join. I don't see why they would since she adds no new dynamic to the crew and would probably be one of the weakest SH, which in the new world is not something the SH need. She is nice and a good looking character, I mean what else is there? Sanji will do his normal routine of hitting on her, Brooke will ask for her panties, but the rest of the crew will treat her as a nice girl? Hancock on the other hand adds a lot of new elements to the crew, her feelings for Luffy, which will probably be quite hilarious as the most beautiful woman in the world tries to get his attention and he doesn't notice. Seeing how she would react to Sanji and Brooke, I can see her using her ability a lot until it's meal time because she wouldn't want to upset Luffy. How would she take orders? Would she be jealous of any other girl (other than Nami and Robin) being around Luffy? Her reaction to Chopper? Ussop wondering constantly how Luffy got a girl that gorgeous to fall for him and stupidly testing out his theories on Nami or another female. Would the crew notice? When Sanji finds out will he become morbidly depressed? I can see Brooke asking Luffy to get her panties and that turning into a problem since Luffy might just ask. Will the monster trio become a team of four instead, with finally a female character on the crew being around their level. Tons of ideas out there and places to take the development of the character, the best thing an author could ask for and hopefully the readers if done right.
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I think most of the people protesting Hancock joining the crew with wild theories and ideas, is because they want Margaret to join. I don't see why they would since she adds no new dynamic to the crew and would probably be one of the weakest SH, which in the new world is not something the SH need. She is nice and a good looking character, I mean what else is there? Sanji will do his normal routine of hitting on her, Brooke will ask for her panties, but the rest of the crew will treat her as a nice girl? Hancock on the other hand adds a lot of new elements to the crew, her feelings for Luffy, which will probably be quite hilarious as the most beautiful woman in the world tries to get his attention and he doesn't notice. Seeing how she would react to Sanji and Brooke, I can see her using her ability a lot until it's meal time because she wouldn't want to upset Luffy. How would she take orders? Would she be jealous of any other girl (other than Nami and Robin) being around Luffy? Her reaction to Chopper? Ussop wondering constantly how Luffy got a girl that gorgeous to fall for him and stupidly testing out his theories on Nami or another female. Would the crew notice? When Sanji finds out will he become morbidly depressed? I can see Brooke asking Luffy to get her panties and that turning into a problem since Luffy might just ask. Will the monster trio become a team of four instead, with finally a female character on the crew being around their level. Tons of ideas out there and places to take the development of the character, the best thing an author could ask for and hopefully the readers if done right.
I wanted to say that for a long time , nicely put
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Nice post by LeaD, you said most of the things I wanted to point out. Kudos.
Also, does anyone see a scenario where Sanji meets a really good looking "girl" on the Transvestite island that just so happens to know some good kicking techniques, falls head over heels for her like any other broad only to find out that she's a dude?
The trauma COULD (bear in mind, could, since I'm 99% sure this won't happen) lead to him being able to kick women.
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Nice post by LeaD, you said most of the things I wanted to point out. Kudos.
Also, does anyone see a scenario where Sanji meets a really good looking "girl" on the Transvestite island that just so happens to know some good kicking techniques, falls head over heels for her like any other broad only to find out that she's a dude?
The trauma COULD (bear in mind, could, since I'm 99% sure this won't happen) lead to him being able to kick women.
While that'd be humorous, Sanji knows where he's landed. I'm pretty sure that he'd not be expecting to meet someone like that. Besides, he wouldn't have time to stop by as he's already busy running away
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I still don't think Hancock will be a new crew member, but I think someone from Impel Down will IMO.
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Yeah, Hancock would not join. Yet. Maybe then when Luffy gets position of Pirate King… then he returns Amazon Lily to get her and then they sail free seas forever 2gether. Aww... Maybe we see goodbyes and kisses after this rescue/war/wtf arc... when SH grew leaves Amazon Lily behind before great sail to underwater paradise.
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@Pirate_King_Sage:
I wonder if Oda is going to treat Haki like he did the Gears, in the sense that Luffy just pulls it out of nowhere and shows how much he can own, and then Oda decides to explain it's development afterwards while we as the reader never see Luffy training….
did you watch One Piece Movie 7: The Giant Mechanical Soldier of Karakuri Castle? http://www.animecrazy.net/one-piece-movie-7-the-giant-mechanical-soldier-of-karakuri-castle/
there he discover using gear 2. and maybe afterwards he improve it..:ninja:
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While that'd be humorous, Sanji knows where he's landed. I'm pretty sure that he'd not be expecting to meet someone like that. Besides, he wouldn't have time to stop by as he's already busy running away
i'd hate to be where sanji is right now. to him this is hell on earth.
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did you watch One Piece Movie 7: The Giant Mechanical Soldier of Karakuri Castle? http://www.animecrazy.net/one-piece-movie-7-the-giant-mechanical-soldier-of-karakuri-castle/
there he discover using gear 2. and maybe afterwards he improve it..:ninja:
You do know that the movies aren't canon?
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I am ASHAMED that I didn't of the possibility of Alvida VS Hancock before.
Because that sounds epic. The only problem is that … how would Alvida get to Impel Down or even Shabondy (if Hancock were to follow Luffy there after getting Ace or whatever he does in Impel Down).
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Awesome chapter is awesome!!!
I just love Oda.
Hopping for more epicness to come but there is no doubt about it….
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@Zik:
It's a shame you didn't see Khamolen's post before it was deleted. IT was on pg 24 right in between our last two posts of that page. His post consisted of the cover page of chap 448 saying Karakuri and not Mechanical island. Now I don't know if it was fake but that led me to believe the two meant the same thing since every other manga site had the english transaltion.
I never posted such a thing. I don't think I was even online when this topic was on page 24.
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I am really loving the idea of Nami being on sky island that is big on weather and her perfect clima tact I can't wait to see how that turns out
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Haha, nice to see more of the crew. Boa must be damn strong if she jumped like 30 feet in the air from her ship to the marine ship ALONG WITH LUFFY FRICKEN WRAPPED AROUND HER WAIST.
@AlmostLegendary:I don't like croc.
Fail.
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Haha, nice to see more of the crew. Boa must be damn strong if she jumped like 30 feet in the air from her ship to the marine ship ALONG WITH LUFFY FRICKEN WRAPPED AROUND HER WAIST.
Fail.
That was mister VA… he was eating Seaking... I think Boa got lifted up with those huge snakes...
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I have to say, I still don't want Hancock to join. I'm 100% certain she'll never join and I wouldn't be mad if Oda killed her. I don't think he will kill her though since no one ever dies in One Piece. I'm hoping she just goes back to AL after this arc. She belongs there, not with the SHs. They don't need a Shichibukai on the ship and while she's fallen in love with Luffy, she's still kind of a bitch. She kicked the poor kitten and seal out of her path. If I end up being wrong about her I'll admit it but right now I feel I'm right that she'll never join.
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Great chapter!
It's obvious to everyone by now, but for the sake of restating the obvious, it looks like each of the Straw Hats are going to receive a power-up of some sort… and BOY, do they need it if they're gonna tackle the New World.
If I recall correctly, Zoro did seem to have an "offscreen" exchange of dialog with Kuma before he got poofed. Perhaps he suggested places that would improve their individual skills? Well, he may have pulled some jackassery regarding Sanji. LOL
EDIT I GOT IT!!!
If somebody figured this out already, it's cool. However, it just occurred to me that the constant running from those trannies will DRASTICALLY increase Sanji's leg strength! Hell, he has Diable Jambe and a vast number of techniques he learned from Zeff, but until he can damage somethimg as tough as Kuma, he'll eventually be left in the dust.
To think, that ten chapters ago, people were talking about how the series was over, once the crew got poofed away by Kuma. I'm not sure what that was all about, but I know for sure that the series is still running strong and getting ever stronger!
Oh, and Jinbei was REALLY pissed about something if he turned on his superiors and got locked up for it. At least we finally got a faint glimpse of what he looks like (seems like he has the same body type as Yama).
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@dirt:
I am ASHAMED that I didn't of the possibility of Alvida VS Hancock before.
Because that sounds epic. The only problem is that … how would Alvida get to Impel Down or even Shabondy (if Hancock were to follow Luffy there after getting Ace or whatever he does in Impel Down).
Easy.
She arrives with Buggy.
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I agree with everything you said, except I think you might have missed one thing about her losing her title and betraying the WG: she can't go back since the WG is going to be looking for revenge. Wasn't one of the terms for her becoming a shichibukai, that her people would be safe from the WG? She was also already on bad terms with the WG with her agreeing to help and then backing out. She is one of their shichibukai and a very dangerous pirate, they aren't just going to let her betrayal go unpunished. Not only will she be betraying them, she will be helping out another notorious pirate in Luffy to interfere in a battle that could change the entire balance of power on the planet and helping to free one of WB commanders. Also, being that she is one of their shichibukai, it will humiliate them and with the egotistical people already shown in command, they aren't going to let that slide. I mean they wiped out an entire island pretty easily, I don't think they'd have a second thought for Amazon lily. It would be a huge plot hole if she could just go home and have everything be fine. So, in my opinion the only way for her to get out of having the WG retaliate on her kingdom is by ajoining herself to another people/faction/group, as in the SH pirates. Therefore, the government won't have any reason to attack her kingdom because Hancock won't be representing her people but instead will be apart of Luffys crew and helping her captain. Also, she will be travelling with the SH crew and won't be at the throne of her kingdom anymore, so they have no reason to waste resources attacking Amazon lily when there is no longer a powerful/traitorous ex-shichibukia there.
Just to touch on your idea about the slavery stuff popping up again, I completely agree since you could easily mention that as a possible dream for her. To free all the slaves just like she was freed by Fisher Tiger, to give the slaves the chance she was by his generous act to free humans and anyone else alike whether he liked their species or not. Also that she might have a dream of getting Luffy to return her feelings (even though, until the end of the manga, I doubt it would ever happen). or even notice her the way other men do, I mean he is completely immune to her looks and charm, which must be pretty damn frustrating when every other guy fell down at her feet (even a number of women) and the one guy she falls in love with is the only one that doesn't.
I think most of the people protesting Hancock joining the crew with wild theories and ideas, is because they want Margaret to join. I don't see why they would since she adds no new dynamic to the crew and would probably be one of the weakest SH, which in the new world is not something the SH need. She is nice and a good looking character, I mean what else is there? Sanji will do his normal routine of hitting on her, Brooke will ask for her panties, but the rest of the crew will treat her as a nice girl? Hancock on the other hand adds a lot of new elements to the crew, her feelings for Luffy, which will probably be quite hilarious as the most beautiful woman in the world tries to get his attention and he doesn't notice. Seeing how she would react to Sanji and Brooke, I can see her using her ability a lot until it's meal time because she wouldn't want to upset Luffy. How would she take orders? Would she be jealous of any other girl (other than Nami and Robin) being around Luffy? Her reaction to Chopper? Ussop wondering constantly how Luffy got a girl that gorgeous to fall for him and stupidly testing out his theories on Nami or another female. Would the crew notice? When Sanji finds out will he become morbidly depressed? I can see Brooke asking Luffy to get her panties and that turning into a problem since Luffy might just ask. Will the monster trio become a team of four instead, with finally a female character on the crew being around their level. Tons of ideas out there and places to take the development of the character, the best thing an author could ask for and hopefully the readers if done right.
The problem is… you claim that she'll have to go with Luffy to keep her island safe right? But the island would still play host to an extremely dangerous haki-wielding pirate crew. The government has basically told Handcock that the punishment for abandoning the Shichibukai would be an assault on her island. They're smart enough to know that it would still be a punishment for her even if she was cruising with Luffy. You also assume that the marines will definitely know if Hancock helps Luffy. I assumed she was simply going to let Luffy slip out at Impel Down and perhaps then help him covertly, point being it could be done with out the WG finding out.
Wouldn't sailing away from the red line and into the New World take her farther and farther away from a dream to free all slaves? Brook is different as the plan is to be really close to Reverse mountain at the end of the journey.
Classifying all theories that disagree with yours as "wild" is pretty low.
What you describe here is at it's base level, a female Sanji. It would be different, yes, but like I said the basic gag of somebody desperate to please another crew member would be the same. What service will she provide to the ship? Empress? The only personality traits we've really seen areBitch
Lovestruck
Crying Vulnerable GirlWe get lovestruck from Sanji, we get bitch from Nami, and I don't really want her to just be a crying girl all the time. I think that your same criticism of "people just wanted Margaret because she looks good" can unfortunately often be applied to Handcock fans as well. Personally I think the girl has a humongous forehead.
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Hey, what do you think of Jinbei being "volunteer" for imprisonment ? I hope he is strong enough so that he can leave whenever he wants, and that he accepted to go there becasue he did not want to take part of the war. He may have been asked first to block the underwater access which he refused, but accepted to go to jail so he would not interfere with any side ?
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@dirt:
I am ASHAMED that I didn't of the possibility of Alvida VS Hancock before.
Because that sounds epic. The only problem is that … how would Alvida get to Impel Down or even Shabondy (if Hancock were to follow Luffy there after getting Ace or whatever he does in Impel Down).
In what way could that fight be classified as "Epic"? It'd be as one sided a fight as Luffy vs Bellamy. Alvida is nothing, where as Hancock is a Shicbuckai.
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All of Hancock's attacks would just side off of Alvida, and there's no way the petrification beam will work since she's so self-absorbed. It would be the most drawn out and melodramatic cat fight in manga ever, with ripped clothing and tears and everything.
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Say, didn't Zoro hunt pirates down to survive for his dream to become the strongest swordsman? Didn't Nami deceive pirates and steal from them to buy her village back? Didn't Robin help start a country-wide rebellion for her selfish goal of finding the True History? Didn't Franky punch Usopp and loot the Straw Hats to get materials for his ship? Didn't Brooke lead his crew to death for the sake of his dream of meeting Laboon from the other side of the Grand Line?
You can accept these mistakes but cannot tolerate Hancock for kicking animals? I'm not saying that she's absolutely correct in kicking animals to maintain that ice queen image, but don't you see the double standards here? After all, the Straw Hats did commit far worse crimes for similarly self-centred goals. Certainly, the Straw Hats did get further character development, but isn't Hancock entitled to the same for future chapters? I agree, Hancock joining the Straw Hats now would be lame as heck, but don't you see the potential for her joining in the future?
@ArrghMatey:
what reason does the WG have to go after Amazon Lily over hunting down the Straw Hats? or the other pirate crews out there on the ocean? especially when Amazon Lily, an island packed with haki-wielding warriors, is in the Calm Belt without windflow and sea currents, smack in the middle of a Sea King's nest? to threaten Hancock? why not just go after the Straw Hats' hometowns then!? which are a lot easier to get to and take down!Wouldn't sailing away from the red line and into the New World take her farther and farther away from a dream to free all slaves? Brook is different as the plan is to be really close to Reverse mountain at the end of the journey.
oh right, tell me what makes you so sure that zoro's, usopp's, sanji's, chopper's, and robin's dreams require them to travel to the end of the grand line yet hancock's wouldn't. you can't? awww.
why does the ship need a role to fill before a character can join? what are zoro's, usopp's and robin's roles then? please don't give me crap like 'zoro's a swordsman, usopp's a sniper and robin's an archaeologist', because i can likewise point out that hancock would be the 'haki-user' and 'anchor'. after all, she subscribes to newspapers! or maybe the 'cabin boy' role some people suggest. maybe she obeys certain commands due to trauma from being a slave!! [/sarcasm]
about similar character traits: let's check out brooke.
perverted; sanji/franky
silly; luffy/usopp
musician; franky
sword user; zoroof course brooke is more than that! do you honestly believe that hancock would be like sanji or nami or a 'crying vulnerable girl' if she joins?
I think that your same criticism of "people just wanted Margaret because she looks good" can unfortunately often be applied to Handcock fans as well.
i don't see how that invalidates the arguments for hancock joining.
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After reading the actual chapter I believe Boa will not join the crew and she will overcome this "Lovesickness" she has for Luffy.
Nyon said she fell victim to this and left the island [no doubt with the guy she loved] and was able to "survive" the disease and come back to the island fine. I am guessing Boa will do what Nyon said, fullfill her duties to Luffy [Helping him get to Ace and protect her country by attending the Shichibukai calling] and she will eventually fall out of love and come back to her country.
Then again maybe not, she could foolow Luffy everywhere like she said and become a member but I doubt it.Sengoku said they have six Shichibukai and the one that is refusing the call is Jinbei. This means Moria is back and we know Blackbeard replaced Crocodile. My gripe with this is how in the world were the yable to get MIHAWK into this? Did he come of his own will cause something interested him? It is strange.
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All of Hancock's attacks would just side off of Alvida, and there's no way the petrification beam will work since she's so self-absorbed. It would be the most drawn out and melodramatic cat fight in manga ever, with ripped clothing and tears and everything.
Woah! You are right! Alvida's abilty should make her immune. Since fire is deflected by Kuma's paws that means Mero Beams and Kizaru's lasers will be deflected too. Never thought of that.
Kuma's and Alvida's abilitys are both broken in the same point. If Alvida makes a U with her arms, Kuma and her could play puni-ping-pong. o_o
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@dirt:
I am ASHAMED that I didn't of the possibility of Alvida VS Hancock before.
Because that sounds epic. The only problem is that … how would Alvida get to Impel Down or even Shabondy (if Hancock were to follow Luffy there after getting Ace or whatever he does in Impel Down).
It would be extremely hilarious if, during his pursuit of the Strawhats, Buggy arrived on Sabaody and got arrested by Kizaru during his "rampage".
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Well what a f***** week for me…
Sanji is on gay island and I can't imagine what the hell he should learn from some homos... if he learns something gay like Okama Kenpo or whatever I have to quit being a fan of him... Same as if he starts kicking women...
I already quit Naruto for letting Kakashi die that shitty way so Oda please don't let me lose another fav...
But for the rest... The chapter was awesome so I have high hope in Oda...
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please note the difference between "gay" and "transvestite". There are straight transvestites (like my dad used to be)
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I have no clue what Sanji is going to learn on this island, but why speculate? I look forward to watching him squirm, and am fully prepared to sit back and enjoy the show.
ON A DIFFERENT NOTE:
EPIC chapter. I REALLY want to see what Nami does on "weather island". I mean, Franky's island I know will kick some ass, but right now my attention is centered on Nami. I don't really want to watch Luffy hanging out in some marine ship right now. So until he gets to ID, I could care less.
Also, if it appears that everyone's learning stuff on their islands, what did Luffy learn on Lily?
(Speculate. Go.)
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please note the difference between "gay" and "transvestite". There are straight transvestites (like my dad used to be)
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I have no clue what Sanji is going to learn on this island, but why speculate? I look forward to watching him squirm, and am fully prepared to sit back and enjoy the show.
ON A DIFFERENT NOTE:
EPIC chapter. I REALLY want to see what Nami does on "weather island". I mean, Franky's island I know will kick some ass, but right now my attention is centered on Nami. I don't really want to watch Luffy hanging out in some marine ship right now. So until he gets to ID, I could care less.
Also, if it appears that everyone's learning stuff on their islands, what did Luffy learn on Lily?
(Speculate. Go.)
LMFAO @ ur Dad you must of had a fucked up child hood.
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LMFAO @ ur Dad you must of had a fucked up child hood.
That's not a nice thing to assume. His dad didn't neccesarily have to have had a bad child hood to become a transvestite.
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I have to say, I still don't want Hancock to join. I'm 100% certain she'll never join and I wouldn't be mad if Oda killed her. I don't think he will kill her though since no one ever dies in One Piece. I'm hoping she just goes back to AL after this arc. She belongs there, not with the SHs. They don't need a Shichibukai on the ship and while she's fallen in love with Luffy, she's still kind of a bitch. She kicked the poor kitten and seal out of her path. If I end up being wrong about her I'll admit it but right now I feel I'm right that she'll never join.
That's what people said about Franky. Give Oda a chance to redeem her character. And why do people keep forgetting the fucking puppy!!!>< It's like he never existed T_T
@Crossword456:
All of Hancock's attacks would just side off of Alvida, and there's no way the petrification beam will work since she's so self-absorbed. It would be the most drawn out and melodramatic cat fight in manga ever, with ripped clothing and tears and everything.
Haki has already been shown to negate devil fruit powers so Hancock would definitely own Alvida in half a second.
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