Chapter 505 "Kuma" Discussion

Mokke

then you should like the obvious fake spoilers that are out that were posted by Neomaster121 on mangahelpers.com

! The Offer
! Kuma: Kid i ask you one more time, We the government want you as a shichibackai. You can keep your crew but they will work for the marines and do as we say.
Kid looks to his crew members
Kuma: I'm fully completed and won't hesistate to kill you all
Kid nods
Then you first task is
The scene changes.
Silver and Zoro are talking. Zoro talks about luffy and Then silver becomes serious.
Silver: what happened?
Zoro: What do you mean
Robin comes and explains what happened at the end of the tb arc
Silver well the stories are true then. Luffy has many faithful crewmembers. Ok then time to get your ship coated.
As the crew walk out Kid arrives.
Luffy: hey kid what do you want
Kid: I'm sorry….
Kid draws out his sword
Zoro too draws out his sword as the shichibackai makes his apparences
Sanji shocked: Its... Him...
Luffy: what do you mean, who is that guy.
Kuma: Me and Kid are the shichibakai... Roronoa Zoro... Monkey D Luffy. You two are coming with us!
Next issue. Times running out

LoL that was a really bad try to make a translation, ill edit away that.
But i still belive in the Redhair helping Whitebeard.

Jiraya

@Hinscher:

then you should like the obvious fake spoilers that are out that were posted by Neomaster121 on mangahelpers.com

! The Offer
! Kuma: Kid i ask you one more time, We the government want you as a shichibackai. You can keep your crew but they will work for the marines and do as we say.
Kid looks to his crew members
Kuma: I'm fully completed and won't hesistate to kill you all
Kid nods
Then you first task is
The scene changes.
Silver and Zoro are talking. Zoro talks about luffy and Then silver becomes serious.
Silver: what happened?
Zoro: What do you mean
Robin comes and explains what happened at the end of the tb arc
Silver well the stories are true then. Luffy has many faithful crewmembers. Ok then time to get your ship coated.
As the crew walk out Kid arrives.
Luffy: hey kid what do you want
Kid: I'm sorry….
Kid draws out his sword
Zoro too draws out his sword as the shichibackai makes his apparences
Sanji shocked: Its... Him...
Luffy: what do you mean, who is that guy.
Kuma: Me and Kid are the shichibakai... Roronoa Zoro... Monkey D Luffy. You two are coming with us!
Next issue. Times running out

Well i'd say that it couldn't be more obvious that is a fake. By the way, i'm pretty sure that WB is way to proud to let shanks help him

Neomaster121

@Hinscher:

then you should like the obvious fake spoilers that are out that were posted by Neomaster121 on mangahelpers.com

! The Offer
! Kuma: Kid i ask you one more time, We the government want you as a shichibackai. You can keep your crew but they will work for the marines and do as we say.
Kid looks to his crew members
Kuma: I'm fully completed and won't hesistate to kill you all
Kid nods
Then you first task is
The scene changes.
Silver and Zoro are talking. Zoro talks about luffy and Then silver becomes serious.
Silver: what happened?
Zoro: What do you mean
Robin comes and explains what happened at the end of the tb arc
Silver well the stories are true then. Luffy has many faithful crewmembers. Ok then time to get your ship coated.
As the crew walk out Kid arrives.
Luffy: hey kid what do you want
Kid: I'm sorry….
Kid draws out his sword
Zoro too draws out his sword as the shichibackai makes his apparences
Sanji shocked: Its... Him...
Luffy: what do you mean, who is that guy.
Kuma: Me and Kid are the shichibakai... Roronoa Zoro... Monkey D Luffy. You two are coming with us!
Next issue. Times running out

i got bored so decided to write a spoiler and see how close it would be to the real thing

Mokke

@Jiraya:

Well i'd say that it couldn't be more obvious that is a fake. By the way, i'm pretty sure that WB is way to proud to let shanks help him

And when does Shanks take order from Whitebeard, if he want to help rescue Ace he will be there.

Elric

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GoustiFruit

@Gorlom:

Why would someone that hate dreams follow a dreamer GoustiFruit?

By interest. If he understands what BB plans to, and what he is able of, he may offer his services.

Shanks helping WB: no way !

Jiraya

@Mokke:

And when does Shanks take order from Whitebeard, if he want to help rescue Ace he will be there.

First, WB won't ask or order shanks to help him, but if WB would ask Shanks tohelp him,what i absolutely doubt, i think that shanks would help him.

And what exactly is BB planning, i mean he wants to take out WB and become Pirate King, and what more?

Gorlom

@GoustiFruit:

By interest. If he understands what BB plans to, and what he is able of, he may offer his services.

Run that by me again and now expand on what DoFlamingo would gain from helping BB dream.

Mokke

Im not saying Whitebeard will ask or order Shanks to help him, i belive he will just show up and try to rescue Ace, and since WB and RH have the same goal they might team up, would be rather stupid of WB to fight Shanks and 7 Shishibukais.

Oh and Elric, guess who got the arrow now?

Jiraya

well i can't see WB working with Shanks, even if they have the same goal, he didn't want to losten to him when he warned him about how dangerous BB is and when shanks said that a new era is beginning, WB said that he isn't scared at all, cause he's WB. I'm pretty sure Shanks would like to help WB and to save Ace, but i think WB is too proud to accept his help. call it stupidy or arrogance whatever, but i think WB would never team up with an other pirate crew.

Miracles

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Gorlom

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brennen.exe

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madking

lol!
what page is the calendar on?

NANLIT

@madking:

lol!
what page is the calendar on?

The first page, in Rob Lucci's room.

Gorlom

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Elric

@Mokke:

Oh and Elric, guess who got the arrow now?

On topic: Calendurr.

Emperor Time

What with all the LazyTown avatars and pictures? Also Whitebeard would rather die instead of asking for Shanks help I believe.

Mad Wanze

@Hinscher:

then you should like the obvious fake spoilers that are out that were posted by Neomaster121 on mangahelpers.com

! The Offer
! Kuma: Kid i ask you one more time, We the government want you as a shichibackai. You can keep your crew but they will work for the marines and do as we say.
Kid looks to his crew members
Kuma: I'm fully completed and won't hesistate to kill you all
Kid nods
Then you first task is
The scene changes.
Silver and Zoro are talking. Zoro talks about luffy and Then silver becomes serious.
Silver: what happened?
Zoro: What do you mean
Robin comes and explains what happened at the end of the tb arc
Silver well the stories are true then. Luffy has many faithful crewmembers. Ok then time to get your ship coated.
As the crew walk out Kid arrives.
Luffy: hey kid what do you want
Kid: I'm sorry….
Kid draws out his sword
Zoro too draws out his sword as the shichibackai makes his apparences
Sanji shocked: Its... Him...
Luffy: what do you mean, who is that guy.
Kuma: Me and Kid are the shichibakai... Roronoa Zoro... Monkey D Luffy. You two are coming with us!
Next issue. Times running out

I really doubt Kid is powerful enough to be a Shichibukai.

Sure, he's got rep, but I doubt he'd be effective when it comes to actually destroying other pirate crews.

Emperor Time

I wonder how long to go until the real spoilers come out?

They call me D

Lately the spoilers have come out around 4 am Eastern time, so we dont have much longer to wait.

Emperor Time

That good to hear that it very soon indeed.

Neomaster121

spoilers still not out
ah well maybe it will be out when i get back home

Luffy Batter

As to why Kuma is confronting Kid, I'm partial to the thoery that Kuma is recruiting a new Shickibukai. After all Kid is technically the strongest (highest bounty) on the island.

People always think that the WG won't get more than 7 Shickibukai to maintain the balance but seeing as they're already screwing that up by declaring War on Whitebeard, the more Shickibukai they have now, the better.

Emperor Time

But if there 8 Shickibukai or more then they will have to change their name.

DesertSpada

I'm not following what you are trying to say Luffy Batter. They have their hands more than full enough with just trying to handle the Shichibukai now. Crocodile had a whole crime syndicate for years. Adding more powerful pirates would spread their resources too thin. Sure, they'd be strong allies to have, but that would mean that the Gov. would have to keep tabs on all of them and I doubt that they could handle it. It would give strong pirates more freedom to do what they want.

VL7

@Emperor:

But if there 8 Shickibukai or more then they will have to change their name.

Luffy already has dibs on Hachibukai though:happy:

Emperor Time

Hachibukai just doesn't have the same ring as Shickibukai does.

duststorm

Does anyone even consider that Kuma meeting Kidd was just coincidence and that Kuma has another agenda. Since Kidd is a dangerous pirate Kuma decided to kill him on sight.

I have one unrelated quetion. Law has a reputation for bad manners but why is he so polite in this chapter?

Emperor Time

I guess it because of Luffy help that Law got a new powerful member in his crew which made him polite.

Luffy Batter

They're about to declare War on freakin' Whitebeard. At this point, the more Shicibukai, the better.

duststorm

@Luffy:

They're about to declare War on freakin' Whitebeard. At this point, the more Shicibukai, the better.

Yeah but Kidd is known for attacking citizens.Why would the WG trust such a guy. Also once Whitebeard is taken out they will not need more Shicibukai.

Emperor Time

After Whitebeard gone then maybe five Shicibukai will be all that needed?

Luffy Batter

They need more to have a higher chance of BEATING him.

And have people forgotten what a TYRANT Kuma was yet the WG had no problem accepting him. Kidd has the highest bounty so naturally they'll go to him.

Emperor Time

But they need a opening to accept Kid though.

freedom

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/505/19/

In the first panel, you can clearly see that Kuma is attacking Kidd with his "Mouth Laser" or some kind of beam. We even see some blood coming off of Kidd's leg.

Kuma is certainly not there to recruit Kidd into the Shichibukai.

Jinbei

@Luffy:

They need more to have a higher chance of BEATING him.

Are you trying to say there chances are low at the moment?:blink:

Emperor Time

That a possibility I think?

Jinbei

I think not, I believe the WG knows what they are doing when they posted what they are going to do to Ace in the public newspaper. IMO thats was invite screaming "come get your boy." A lot of people seem to be underrating the MHQ and the Seven Armed Seas.

Emperor Time

Well I feel that the MHQ and the Seven Armed Seas are a extremely poweful enemy.

Hinscher

@Jinbei:

I think not, I believe the WG knows what they are doing when they posted what they are going to do to Ace in the public newspaper. IMO thats was invite screaming "come get your boy." A lot of people seem to be underrating the MHQ and the Seven Armed Seas.

We'll not sure exactly what you are arguing with. But I don't think the people are so much underestimating the WG and the 7 warlords. WE know that Whitebeard is going to a trap they set and will be beaten.

Yet with what the strawhats are doing. They have and admiral going after them, and also Kuma is there. Who knows what else will happen, but it is ending out good for whitebeard. Whether he still gets beaten we don't know, but the Strawhats are weakening the trap.

Even if the Admirals weren't going to be in that trap and just be Shichi, they are 1 shichi less at the moment.

Jinbei

Well IMO I don't think the WG will/must need all of the fighting power of the MHQ along with all Seven of the Armed Seas, just to beat 1 Yonkou Pirate crew, Yea I know the Whitebeard Pirates are the Top Pirates but still. Thats all I'm saying. Ive been reading around the Net and there is a lot of folks saying its a must, and the WG will lose with out having all seven of the Seven Armed Seas, and all Three of the MHQ Admirals along with Vice Admirals etc etc. it just seems wrong to me.

I guess we will have to just wait and see how it all turns out.

Hinscher

Well I'm not saying its a must either. But either way we have Flamingo stating that it is the Whitebeard pirates vs. Shichibukai. Whether he meant all of them were supposed to be there or not.

But eitherway as of right now Kuma is preocuppied and may be taken out. And Whitebeard wiill no doubt take out some more. So it hurts the WG

Hey guys I've always been following One Piece, been reading forums, but this is the first time i decided to contribute to the discussion.
Ever since the introduction to the Supernovas, there's been one issue that's been bugging me.
How come it's such a coincidence that all the 100,000,000+ rookies are gathered in the same place at the same time?
The same place isn't as unrealistic as the same time, surely there are more big shots that already left the archipelago and big shots that haven't arrived yet? It's just the way Oda implied that the Supernovas introduced are probably the only ones that are part of the story. In my opinion, there has to be SOMEONE out there that is a little behind or a little ahead but is just as famous as say Kid or Luffy.
Just thought I'd throw that out there, it's such too much of a coincidence and unrealistic occurence for Oda to put down, knowing his tendencies to be as consistently true as possible.

Emperor Time

Well it a journey and of course all the big players would show up at the same place and at the same time.

Hinscher

@Anchorpiece:

Hey guys I've always been following One Piece, been reading forums, but this is the first time i decided to contribute to the discussion.
Ever since the introduction to the Supernovas, there's been one issue that's been bugging me.
How come it's such a coincidence that all the 100,000,000+ rookies are gathered in the same place at the same time?
The same place isn't as unrealistic as the same time, surely there are more big shots that already left the archipelago and big shots that haven't arrived yet? It's just the way Oda implied that the Supernovas introduced are probably the only ones that are part of the story. In my opinion, there has to be SOMEONE out there that is a little behind or a little ahead but is just as famous as say Kid or Luffy.
Just thought I'd throw that out there, it's such too much of a coincidence and unrealistic occurence for Oda to put down, knowing his tendencies to be as consistently true as possible.

Who knows. For all we know someone left a couple weeks ago that was worth 400 million. Or someone will arrrive as the strawhats are being chased by the marines with 130 million or someting.

I'm sure this pirates all being there same time doesn't happen all too often, but I'm sure sometimes. I mean they have to coat their ship, and I"m sure they hang out for some time. So really maybe they wait to see who is coming. From the way Kidd talks seems he has been anxious to meet Luffy. So he could have been waiting for a couple weeks who knows.

They are in lawless districts just having fun and drinking anyway.

Thanks Hinscher, that's been bugging me forever.

Emperor Time

Anything could happen since it a island that you must go to first if you want to go to Fishman island.