opinions are one thing and facts and the other thing… as Gorlom said - we don't know NOTHING about their powers in real battle (ok, we know what Ao Kiji can do, but he's the only one...) so there is no sense in ONLY speculations...
Top 5 Strongest
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Crabs: I do. It's posted on the first page. But you probably don't get the reference since you haven't been on AP that long.
Other then that: no. We just don't have enough information about anything and the discussion just becomes frustrating when people out of nowhere suggests DoFlamingo or Dr Kureha or whoever, and that they can't be proven wrong about it since we know shit about all of them.
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heh, it's the same for every shonen manga out there. Another blatant example is HunterxHunter. I can't even be bothered to try and remember how many times I read people creaming themselves on the thought how uber powerful Ging is, even though we know nothing of this character and we have never even seen him.
Same here - everyone immediately goes Whitebeard this, Whitebeard that…Yep, he is known as the world's strongest. But we don't know what that strength is and where is it coming from. Might be political, might be DF, might be physical, might just be the sheer number of people he commands. We've had examples of all those cases in OP world. And even if it is meant in the sense people assume such qualifications are never absolute - you cannot say Whitebeard will beat anyone that comes against him hands down, no matter what. Each person is strong against something, less strong against something else.
And btw Gorlom - you are wrong to dismiss this type of topic out of hand. Yep, it's useless, stupid and unproductive but it can also be fun at time arguing with other people on such bullshit topics and ultimately that's the point of the whole thing. I don't read manga coz it's a logical and productive endeavor, i read manga coz it's sometimes fun so don't be soooo serious :)
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Top 5 strongest as of now…
5.Blackbeard
4.Mihawk - strongest shichibukai.
3.Sengoku
2.Whitebeard - old and ailing
1.Shanks -
Gorlom, man, of course I noticed(got the references and all…) you're previous top 5, but that one doesn't really count! Even though «speculation is speculation», it's still somewhat safe and logical, to assume that characters such as Whitebeard, Mihawk(both end manga chars., since they both appear to be Luffy's and Zoro's ultimate goals, at least for the time being), Shanks or Teach, are, among the strongest in OP! Besides, it's fun, and that's all that should matter anyways, for all I care!!
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@ysn:
Same here - everyone immediately goes Whitebeard this, Whitebeard that…Yep, he is known as the world's strongest. But we don't know what that strength is and where is it coming from. Might be political, might be DF, might be physical, might just be the sheer number of people he commands. We've had examples of all those cases in OP world. And even if it is meant in the sense people assume such qualifications are never absolute - you cannot say Whitebeard will beat anyone that comes against him hands down, no matter what. Each person is strong against something, less strong against something else.
as whitebeard was the only man to tie with the pirate king we can assume that oda meant strongest fighter.
anyway heres my list:
1.whitebeard=blackbeard=dragon=sengoku
2.shanks=raliegh
3.mihawk=aokiji
4.kaidou=unknown emperor
5.kisaru=akainu -
-BB
-Ener
-Dragon
-Shanks
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hmm i think who is the strongerst is how far they are raveling in green line and how long have they been traveling…. >.> since alot of ppl say that this path make who ever traveling it stronger :p so yeh i think who ever survive in gren line longer and who is clostest to one piece is the strongest one:p
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hmm i think who is the strongerst is how far they are raveling in green line and how long have they been traveling…. >.> since alot of ppl say that this path make who ever traveling it stronger :p so yeh i think who ever survive in gren line longer and who is clostest to one piece is the strongest one:p
The GREEN line? What?
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As opposed to the red line… =P
I assume he isn't english native and that he either mistook the name or they call it the green line in his language.
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You can discuss as long as you want, Oda will make any character as strong as he wants.
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I suppose now that rayleigh should be included in the top5 strongest list?
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I got a serious question? Ok they are going to enter new world. Do you think that Oda will reveal new Pirates that are stronger than the likes of Blackbeard, Dragon, Shanks or Whitebeard? I think that Oda will reveal Pirates, but they wont be stronger than the Whitebeard or Shanks or anything, i mean they do rule New World? So do you think that we will see Pirates stronger than Shanks, Blackbeard, Whitebeard or Dragon?
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enel is pure pwnage, or at least could be, if he didn't have such a god complex he has mantra and has goro goro fruit. i would find it totally awesome for him to fight someone other than luffy, you coulden't call any others fight in the jaya arc a fight.
for me it goes
0) 1010011010
1)Enel
2)songoku=WB
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4)Mihawk
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enel is pure pwnage, or at least could be, if he didn't have such a god complex he has mantra and has goro goro fruit. i would find it totally awesome for him to fight someone other than luffy, you coulden't call any others fight in the jaya arc a fight.
for me it goes
0) 1010011010
1)Enel
2)songoku=WB
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4)Mihawk
5)shank=don flamingo=blackbeardLuffy said himself that there are people stronger than Eneru in the blue sea.
I'm gonna say Blackbeard is the strongest, followed by Whitebeard and the Yonkou. Thats my top five.
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So do you think that we will see Pirates stronger than Shanks, Blackbeard, Whitebeard or Dragon in the New World?
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No. Shichibukai yes, but it wouldn't make sense for there to be pirates stronger than the Yonkou. Wouldn't doubt we could see some random Uber dude like Enel on Raftel.
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No. Shichibukai yes, but it wouldn't make sense for their to be pirates stronger than the Yonkou. Wouldn't doubt we could see some random Uber dude like Enel on Raftel.
I meant do you think we will see Pirates from the New World stronger than the pirates from Yonkou or Shichibukai, It is the second half of grand line.
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Top 5
1. Buggy
2. Bellamy
3. Charlos
4. Jango
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I meant do you think we will see Pirates from the New World stronger than the pirates from Yonkou or Shichibukai, It is the second half of grand line. I guess i wouldn't make sense because they rule the New World. So i doubt but atleast Pirates stronger than Shichibukai. I mean there's another 9 years left
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@Monkey:
I meant do you think we will see Pirates from the New World stronger than the pirates from Yonkou or Shichibukai, It is the second half of grand line.
As Ryuksgelus already pointed out: If not said otherwise the four Yonkous are the strongest ones around at the moment. I'm pretty sure there are some pirates who could fight on par with them, but won't exceed them. There are called emperors for a reason.
But I'm pretty sure we'll face some incredibly strong rookies and marines that could exceed the shichibukai.
And we finally need some kickass headhunters. What the hell are the bounties good for if there aren't even great bountyhunters to collect them?(I'm ignoring Yosaku and Johnny now XD) -
As Ryuksgelus already pointed out: If not said otherwise the four Yonkous are the strongest ones around at the moment. I'm pretty sure there are some pirates who could fight on par with them, but won't exceed them. There are called emperors for a reason.
But I'm pretty sure we'll face some incredibly strong rookies and marines that could exceed the shichibukai.
And we finally need some kickass headhunters. What the hell are the bounties good for if there aren't even great bountyhunters to collect them?(I'm ignoring Yosaku and Johnny now XD)Yeah they are called emperors for a reason and i've thought about it don't you think it would ruin the story if they made Pirates stronger than them? But isn't there already 11 Supernovas? I Agree with you on the headhunters thing, It all makes sense that the strong head hunters wait at New World for Pirates with big bounties. Guess we will start seeing head hunters now we've already seen Marine, Pirates and Humans which are the strongest I guess.
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@Monkey:
Yeah they are called emperors for a reason and i've thought about it don't you think it would ruin the story if they made Pirates stronger than them?
I guess, they wouldn't completely ruin the story. Take somebody like blackbeard for instance:
He had a pretty weak reputation,but turned out very strong
(he was able to injure Shanks). I wouldn't care if he turns out to be stronger than a yonkou, if it's for the sake of the story.
But if random powerful pirates, who are stronger than yonkous, pop up, it would undermine the special status of the four emperors.Guess we will start seeing head hunters now we've already seen Marine, Pirates and Humans which are the strongest I guess.
Do you mean civillians, or Fishman?
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1. Sengoku=Whitebeard=Dragon
2. Aokiji=Shanks=Blackbeard
3. Mihawk=Akainu=Kizaru=Kaidou=last yankou=Railegh
4. Luffy=Smoker=Ace=Donflamingo=Jimbei=Kuma=Ben Beckman
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I guess, they wouldn't completely ruin the story. Take somebody like blackbeard for instance:
He had a pretty weak reputation,but turned out very strong
(he was able to injure Shanks).What chapter was it stated that blackbeard actually injured Shanks?
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im split on a few people so ive got top 5 pirates and top five government…....and shichibukai hahaha
1. elder stars (all same strength)
2. garp (when he was younger )
3. sengoku
4. john giant
5. tsuru (the great tactician)top five pirates
1. whitebeard
2. shanks
3. raleigh
4. enel
5. rob lucci (as he's now a pirate.....i think?)and shichibukai..........just to fuel the fire lol
1.mihawk
2. kuma
3. bb
4. crocodile
5. moriai havnt stated the others as i havnt seen them fight......
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bit of a whatever thread, as there's always a bigger fish.
I'll always be:
- Pwngoat
followed by a random arbitrage of yonkous, admirals, and perhaps blackbeard.
So let's say:
2) Sengoku
3) Whitebeard
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bit of a whatever thread, as there's always a bigger fish.
I'll always be:
- Pwngoat
followed by a random arbitrage of yonkous, admirals, and perhaps blackbeard.
So let's say:
2) Sengoku
3) Whitebeard
4) Blackbeard
5) Aokijieveryone (most) hast taken Pwngoat into account so this thread is really about the top 6 but say who's number one is a waste of time when everyone will say it's pwngoat.
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What chapter was it stated that blackbeard actually injured Shanks?
I forget the chapter, but Shanks stated it when he spoke with Whitebeard. He said something about how Teach gave him his scar, in a fight where he wasn't being reckless.
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It's really hard to decide on this, so i guess i'll split everything up also.
top 5 active pirate captains on first half of grand line
1. Luffy
2. Kidd
3. Hawkins
4. Law
5. Drake
Top 5 active pirate captains (new world)
1. Whitebeard
2. Shanks/Kaidou/Unknown Younkou
3. Shanks/Kaidou/Unknown Younkou
4. Shanks/Kaidou/Unknown Younkou
5. -position vacant-
Top 5 active pirate crew members (first half grand line)
1. Roronoa Zoro/Killer
2. Killer/zoro
3. Sanji
4. Law's Bear
5. Jean bart
Top 5 crew members:(NW) so far
1. Marco
2. Ben Beckham
3. Ace
4. Jozu
5. Yassop
Top 5 Marines (First Half)
1. Smoker
2. Hina
3. Coby
4. Tashigi
5. T-Bone
Top 5 marines NW
1. Sengoku
2-4. Either of the three admirals
5. garp
Others:
1. Dragon
2. Rayleigh
3. Enel
4. Lucci
5. Shakky
Shichibukai
1. Black beard
2. Mihawk
3. Jinbei
4. Kuma
5. Don Flaminggohahaha too much bullshit right??
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It's really hard to decide on this, so i guess i'll split everything up also.
top 5 active pirate captains on first half of grand line
1. Luffy
2. Kidd
3. Hawkins
4. Law
5. Drake
Top 5 active pirate captains (new world)
1. Whitebeard
2. Shanks/Kaidou/Unknown Younkou
3. Shanks/Kaidou/Unknown Younkou
4. Shanks/Kaidou/Unknown Younkou
5. -position vacant-
Top 5 active pirate crew members (first half grand line)
1. Roronoa Zoro/Killer
2. Killer/zoro
3. Sanji
4. Law's Bear
5. Jean bart
Top 5 crew members:(NW) so far
1. Marco
2. Ben Beckham
3. Ace
4. Jozu
5. Yassop
Top 5 Marines (First Half)
1. Smoker
2. Hina
3. Coby
4. Tashigi
5. T-Bone
Top 5 marines NW
1. Sengoku
2-4. Either of the three admirals
5. garp
Others:
1. Dragon
2. Rayleigh
3. Enel
4. Lucci
5. Shakky
Shichibukai
1. Black beard
2. Mihawk
3. Jinbei
4. Kuma
5. Don Flaminggohahaha too much bullshit right??
dont you think T-Bone should be 2nd? just curious why you would put someone that can kill a seaking so easily below tashigi, the last time i saw her fight i wasnt impressed, and dnt think she could have improved enough to do what t-bone has shown in his abilities
(although i could be wrong)
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I don't know why you people are trying to rank characters when we're not even halfway through the story yet.
Of the 4 Yonkou, we only know that Whitebeard is the strongest. We have no idea how strong the other three are (even Whitebeard we have never seen in action). For Shichibukai, we haven't seen what Mihawk (for those who think they know how strong Mihawk is, shame on you for making such a baseless assumption), Doflamingo, Jimbei, and half of the others for that matter (we've only seen many of them pwn, we have not seen them evenly matched) are capable of.
It's the same thing for Marines. Yes, the three Admirals are the strongest assets of the Marines. But that's what the world thinks. From what we've seen so far, we can say that Sengoku rarely has to fight. The Five Elder Stars pretty much never fight. Who knows how strong they are. Yes, they may just be tacticians, but we don't know that, and we have no ground whatsoever to make assumptions for or against.
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How is a thread like this taken seriously? Asking for the top 5 stongest characters in this manga? Really? Really? You'd be better off finding top 5 weakest.
How come this thread has reached so many pages lol?
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It's just a bit of speculation. I'd say Kizaru, Whitebeard, Aokiji, Enel and Dragon are the strongest (in no particular order). I disagree with people saying Blackbeard is amongst the strongest. The fact that he takes damage from attacks unlike other Logia users is a severe weakness in my eyes. By that measure, one solid strong hit from the likes of Whitebeard or Jimbei would be enough to knock him out
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I don't think Blackbeard fought Ace seriously. In fact, Ace never stood a chance.
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@Low-fi:
The fact that he takes damage from attacks unlike other Logia users is a severe weakness in my eyes. By that measure, one solid strong hit from the likes of Whitebeard or Jimbei would be enough to knock him out
With the introduction of haki the regular logia defense is pretty much worthless and the people who rely solely on that and cant take a punch would be way worse of, and with a stamina which cant be described in words it really negate the possibility of anyone anywhere one-shotting blackbeard (for further reference look up Ace's gigant smiting ball.)
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@Low-fi:
It's just a bit of speculation. I'd say Kizaru, Whitebeard, Aokiji, Enel and Dragon are the strongest (in no particular order).
So you think Sengoku is weaker than his admirals? (This is not meant to start a discussion, as there already is one)
There are so many really strong guys in the world we have still to see fighting (WB, Sengoku(?), Akainu, 2 other yonkous, hordes of other NW pirates…) that this thread is nothing but pointless in it's original question. "Top 5 strongest we've already seen", that would be discussable (maybe).
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1. Whitebeard
2. Rayleigh
3. Blackbeard/Yet to be introduced admiral
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@Zik:
How is a thread like this taken seriously? Asking for the top 5 stongest characters in this manga? Really? Really? You'd be better off finding top 5 weakest.
How come this thread has reached so many pages lol?
lol i looked at this thread title n i was like wtf dumb thread
then i saw it was me who made it n now i remember why
it was during a break n i got bored n the forum was slow so i made this threadquestion is
why was this thing brought back to life
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Enels too badass, more badass than any other logia. Why? i hear you ask- it's because he has mantra thats wright he knows what your goning to do next even if you have haki and could even touch him you can't, you know Why?? because he's such a badass.
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i'd prefer WB as the strongest atm and the 2nd strongest would be loooong wayyy far away from his level considering the preparations of WG just for a single pirate crew.
if it was top 5 most powerful OP characters that be the Gorusei lewl
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i definitely think the Gorosei (five elder stars) are one of the most powerful people about, I'd say on Garps level minimum and above, looking at their savage scared bodies I'd have to say they have a lot of fighting experience…....and to maintain power you would have to have some physical presence.
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Top 5:
1. Strongest Elder Star
2. Second strongest Elder Star
3. Third strongest Elder Star
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I wonder who would win
Sengoku vs Aokiji and Dragon vs Whitebeard
and i doubt we will see much pirates that will re-occur in New World, like main figures, it will be weird if we saw some random pirates than we never even pop up and there stronger than Yonkou or Shicibukai, i think all the chracters than never seen action will get their moments in the New World. i bet when Luffy reaches New World all the Pirates/Marines/Humans we barely seen fight will get some action (Sengoku,WB,Dragon, Yonkou, Shicibukai etc.This is weird but what if all the of Government 5 or someshit each have on of them elements DF
1.Fire
2.Lightning
3.Water
4.Earth
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5: Wapol
4: Kuro
3: Alvida
2: just some random low ranking pirate on foxy's crew
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1.Whitebeard
2.Monkey D. Dragon
3.Shanks
4.Mihawk
5.Aokiji -
1.Whitebeard
2.Monkey D. Dragon
3.Shanks
4.Mihawk
5.Aokijican't Sengoku beat Aokiji?
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@Monkey:
can't Sengoku beat Aokiji?
Noone has saw him fighting. I agree with Zik this thread is lol :)
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If Pirates live in New World, isn't it easier for them to get to Grand Line?
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@Monkey:
If Pirates live in New World, isn't it easier for them to get to Grand Line?
you should read about what the new world is. And why are you even asking this OT question?