@Cap'n:
Maybe he'll use this attack:
even though it doesn't seem to be a very powerful move
Isn't that just a worse version of Pound Cannon? I always thought that way.
But anyway, about the fight lengths of the fights next chapter, if Chopper gets even 3-4 pages, I can say Zoro's fight won't end that chapter. There simply isn't enough space to crush such a build up.
Dunno if people have already mentioned, but I just wanna say that Zoro didn't always fight last. His fight in Arlong Park was the first one.
@MonkeyDMalcolm:
wasn't this supposed to be a double chapter or something like that?
was it? - wouldn´t that mean that there will be no OP this week?:shocked:
Anyhow, Ryuuma looked really terriffic in this chapter, one got a good impression that he might have been the "Mihawk" of his age. Zorro is quite lucky that he is just fighting his zombie (limited to Brookes techniques and probably still a little weaker than the living Ryuuma ). This fight makes quite a step towards his confrontation with Mihawk - and shows at the same time that he still has a long way to go.
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I just wanted to clarify the new attack as shown by Ryuuma in this chapter.
It is called (オーバード)夜明歌 * クー ドロア,
….in Romanji is (Obado) Yoakuta * ku~ doroa,
....which can be translated as is Aubade (Dawn Serenade) Coup Droit.
I believe that Yakuta is Dawning Song as to stay true to Brook's Song style, and as a joke due to the fact that Ryuuma is from a Japanese like country, when Japan is known as "Land of the Rising Sun" (hence, Dawning, sun rising....get it?). Not to mention Aubade is Dawn Serenade in French, as revealed to me earlier
Doroa normally means "drawer" in English, but upon further research, there is a French expression "coup droit", which refers to a fencing term. When a fencer performs a coup droit, he has his sword pointing at his opponent with his arm extended. Any attack performed while in this stance is coup droit as long as they return to said stance. This is also known as a direct attacking. In Ryuuma's case, you see him extending his arm quite overtly, which is an exaggerated coup droit, but is one nevertheless.
This fight makes quite a step towards his confrontation with Mihawk - and shows at the same time that he still has a long way to go.
My feelings as well! Since Zoro's opponents so far have mostly been gimmicky fighters, we've had no real way to measure Zoro's progress towards his goal (other than by making wild speculations about if his ability to cleanly slash through three railroad cars is equal to Mihawk's ability to cleanly slash a galleon in thirds, etc …)
Since Ryuma is the first proper samurai opponent, and not just a gimmicky fighter with a sword-like weapon (or at least not what we've seen so far) -- my hope is that we'll have a better way to gauge Zoro's improvement after this fight. As I've said before, I'm hoping for a technical battle. Something that pits identical moves against each other (like cannon vs cannon) and that's decided only by execution of form, speed, and damage done.
I just wanted to clarify the new attack as shown by Ryuuma in this chapter.
It is called (オーバード)夜明歌 * クー ドロア,
….in Romanji is (Obado) Yoakuta * ku~ doroa,
….which can be translated as is (Overdo) Dawning Song Coup Droit.I believe that Yakuta is Dawning Song as to stay true to Brook's Song style, and as a joke due to the fact that Ryuuma is from a Japanese like country, when Japan is known as "Land of the Rising Sun" (hence, Dawning, sun rising….get it?).
Doroa normally means "drawer" in English, but upon further research, there is a French expression "coup droit", which refers to a fencing term. When a fencer performs a coup droit, he has his sword pointing at his opponent with his arm extended. Any attack performed while in this stance is coup droit as long as they return to said stance. This is also known as a direct attacking. In Ryuuma's case, you see him extending his arm quite overtly, which is an exaggerated coup droit, but is one nevertheless.
Nice reasearch there. I'm always interested in the meaning of the attack names and this one was hard to figure out. I especially like the possible reference to Ryuuma's Japan like country. Little details like this really show the huge amount of thought and research Oda puts into his story.
@Cap'n:
Maybe he'll use this attack:
even though it doesn't seem to be a very powerful move
thx for giving me the real attack name unstead of the 4kids version.
Hey, I just realized that Ryuuma was the name of the main character in one of Oda's one shots (who, in the story, indeed slayed a dragon). I wonder if more of this story will be adapted into One Piece. :x
I think its the zombie of that character.
anybody actually think that Zoro actually won, but was knocked out in the process. Just look at Franky's question: 'So…what does it mean?'.
Also, the fire around ryuma could signify that he has been defeated...
by the way, what the hell is with people comparing Ryuma to Mihawk...Mihawk is the gold roger of sword fighters...Ryuma is nowhere near his league...just because he killed a dragon....Its already been stated that Mihawk is the swordfighter that is head and shoulders above any sword fighter in the world...his reputation far surpasses Ryuma's....zoro is still a thousand miles away from that level
I just wanted to clarify the new attack as shown by Ryuuma in this chapter.
It is called (オーバード)夜明歌 * クー ドロア,
….in Romanji is (Obado) Yoakuta * ku~ doroa,
….which can be translated as is (Overdo) Dawning Song Coup Droit.I believe that Yakuta is Dawning Song as to stay true to Brook's Song style, and as a joke due to the fact that Ryuuma is from a Japanese like country, when Japan is known as "Land of the Rising Sun" (hence, Dawning, sun rising….get it?).
Doroa normally means "drawer" in English, but upon further research, there is a French expression "coup droit", which refers to a fencing term. When a fencer performs a coup droit, he has his sword pointing at his opponent with his arm extended. Any attack performed while in this stance is coup droit as long as they return to said stance. This is also known as a direct attacking. In Ryuuma's case, you see him extending his arm quite overtly, which is an exaggerated coup droit, but is one nevertheless.
It's not overdo. It's a French term Aubade. It's a song evoking daybreak.
@Mr.:
Although Cindry prolly has something up her sleeve.
Is not enough to be a Zombie that probably is inmune to anything that Robin could do? I mean, most Gomu-Gomus of Luffy were futile against the General Zombies. <_<
by the way, what the hell is with people comparing Ryuma to Mihawk…Mihawk is the gold roger of sword fighters...Ryuma is nowhere near his league...just because he killed a dragon....Its already been stated that Mihawk is the swordfighter that is head and shoulders above any sword fighter in the world...his reputation far surpasses Ryuma's....zoro is still a thousand miles away from that level
Ryuma died before Mihawk was born (we're assuming). So, many people are making the logical assumption that while Ryuma was alive, he was "the Mihawk of his time," – that is, the most celebrated swordsman of his time, if only because Mihawk wasn't around yet. If Ryuma once held the title of "the strongest swordsman", then even in his current reduced strength-zombie incarnation, he'd pose a significant threat to Zoro.
"Over-thinking,
over-analyzing …"
......-- Tool (from Lateralus)
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by the way, what the hell is with people comparing Ryuma to Mihawk...Mihawk is the gold roger of sword fighters...Ryuma is nowhere near his league...just because he killed a dragon....Its already been stated that Mihawk is the swordfighter that is head and shoulders above any sword fighter in the world...his reputation far surpasses Ryuma's....zoro is still a thousand miles away from that level
Yeah, what the hell is (wrong) with me ….
First it might be noteworthy that I clearly wrote "might have been" as, in fact, we know almost nothing about the world in Ryuma´s days. We do not even know when he lived. might be decades, might be centuries - so it´s all speculation and I am well aware of it. You, on the other side, seem to have some secret knowledge about the level of this ancient swordsman so that you can clearly state what "is".... please share your sources with me!
Perhaps first you should go and and read Ryuma´s one shot, you´ll find that he was considered the strongest swordsman living (as far as the scoop of that story went) and in so far a comparison with Mihawk seems not far off to me (fool)
... ah, beaten by dinty - I´m so slow....
Ryuma died before Mihawk was born (we're assuming). So, many people are making the logical assumption that while Ryuma was alive, he was "the Mihawk of his time," – that is, the most celebrated swordsman of his time, if only because Mihawk wasn't around yet. If Ryuma once held the title of "the strongest swordsman", then even in his current reduced strength-zombie incarnation, he'd pose a significant threat to Zoro.
But what does he actually retain from the Ryuma of legend in his current incarnation? He lacks all of the memories, techniques, drive to succeed and moral fiber of the one shot Ryuma. All he has in his favor are Ryuma's physical strength and perhaps the muscle memory trained in using that giant katana of his. This gives him the capability to maximize the potential in all of Brooke's techniques, but I think it is safe to assume that Brooke's techniques are not those of a Mihawk level fighter.
Also, perhaps most importantly the current Ryuma has no Memories to draw on when the going gets tough. Every time zoro or Brooke reach their limit, they can remember laboon or kuina and surpass their own abilities. THe fact that Ryuma can not do this may prove the tipping point at the deciding moment to come during the Zoro/Ryuma rematch. Sure, the memory of laboon was not enough the make up for the skill difference between Ryuma and Brooke, but it might be enough to bring zoro out on top (once he has three swords again anyways.)
Then again, Ryuma does seem to have that zombie Gear 2 thing going for him. Even the ancient one shot Ryuma didn't have that.
what if Ryuuma draws on reluctance to return to beeing Brooks shadow? what if he wants a mountain of panties but if he returns he cant enjoy them anymore?
since he had 5 years to train maybe he put some of that muscle memory to good use and acctually became close to Mihawks level?
Do we know for sure that as the shadows ego fades the bodys ego doesnt emerge?
Still alot of unknowns around this whole shadow+corpse= zombie hippo … (ewrr maybe just zombie...) deal.
@Mad:
I think its the zombie of that character.
Smacks head on table
Moria: on theese forums we facepalm instead of destroying the furniture mister!
It's not overdo. It's a French term Aubade. It's a song evoking daybreak.
Aha! I knew I was off on something. So "obado" = "aubade" = Dawn serenade. I'll change that in my post.
Man Usopp vs Perona was awesome. It showed how Usopp could handle a fight.
Cons:Perona was a pushover. It felt like Nami vs Calipha how she could have been beatened by anyone else if it wasn't for her power and since she was a woman Usopp couldn't show his "strength"
Pros: Usopp showed all his tricks of the trade. He even took down an opponent with impact. And his attacks have been getting stronger eg. breaking walls and such. THe best part is that even though he got hurt with impact and his attacks were tricks, he kept a badass face look while doing it.
As for Zoro, I'm glad that Zoro seemed to lose this fight, but he didnt have his headband on, so he didn't take it too seriously. And Ryuuma looks like one of his best opponents yet. Brooke and Franky watching makes it all the more funnier with their expressions and remarks.
@ultimateclima:
Cons:Perona was a pushover.
I donno about that, the couple panels of negative hollows putting every Straw Hat to their knees says otherwise..
I think Usopp did show his strength. His strength is lying and running away. ;D
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Do people seriously think that Zoro gets stronger when he puts on his bandana-thing?…
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Ussop Breaking walls was the best he never broke a wall before.Go Ussop.
I donno about that, the couple panels of negative hollows putting every Straw Hat to their knees says otherwise..
Yea, but she's a special fighter. She drains power like Calipha did instead of becoming really really strong.
Also how can everyone tell that Zoro's sword with him is Wadou's? I'm not sure what hand he uses what sword in, but I thought he uses Kitetsu with his right hand?
@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
Is not enough to be a Zombie that probably is inmune to anything that Robin could do? I mean, most Gomu-Gomus of Luffy were futile against the General Zombies. <_<
Remember last time Robin fought? Excluding the numerous bone snappings, she immobilized Yama, rolled him a hundred yards, and threw him off of a cliff. And he probably weighed half a ton. Which makes me think that Cindry. might have something else up her sleeve.
@ultimateclima:
Yea, but she's a special fighter. She drains power like Calipha did instead of becoming really really strong.
Oooh I see what you're saying now. Sorry, misunderstood. That is sort of a copout in a way, but I really like the negativity angle Oda used. It made it so there was a villain that only Usopp could fight, which is neat.
And something Usopp needed desperately, plus, most women in One Piece aren't really "power" fighters (with the exception of Ms. Friday and Ms. Doublefinger), Nami, Robin, Perona, Kalifa, etc.
But what does he actually retain from the Ryuma of legend in his current incarnation? He lacks all of the memories, techniques, drive to succeed and moral fiber of the one shot Ryuma. All he has in his favor are Ryuma's physical strength and perhaps the muscle memory trained in using that giant katana of his. This gives him the capability to maximize the potential in all of Brooke's techniques, but I think it is safe to assume that Brooke's techniques are not those of a Mihawk level fighter. … lso, perhaps most importantly the current Ryuma has no Memories to draw on when the going gets tough. Every time zoro or Brooke reach their limit, they can remember laboon or kuina and surpass their own abilities. THe fact that Ryuma can not do this may prove the tipping point at the deciding moment to come during the Zoro/Ryuma rematch.
Good points.
And assuming that Ryuma's been in Moria's/Hogback's service for a while now, all impulse to rebel, and all residue of memories from his previous life would probably be gone by now.
I was basing my assumptions of Ryuma's strength mostly on muscle memory ("the body's wisdom" as they refer to it in my martial arts books : the way that a body can perform an action without thinking about it only after years of performing it with utmost attention).
And while Brook's techniques and skill obviously aren't at Mihawk's level, there is one thing that makes me think a lot of the skill on display is Ryuma's:
We haven't seen Brook do a cannon move yet, and he doesn't seem to have the muscle for it either, he's too bony (bad skull joke!)
This was the first thing that we saw Ryuma do, and with such finesse that he was able to cleanly slice through wood and metal, as well as launch Team Usopp a few feet forward unharmed. So my assumption was that the cannon came from Ryuma's muscle memory – that his body remembers how to do that move, even if his mind doesn't, and that it was an instinctual action.
This talk of what a zombie remembers and what a zombie forgets makes me wonder if perhaps the "they will all eventually forget their former lives and stop rebelling" aspect of zombie-dom can be somehow reversed ... for instance, if Zoro does something that is nearly identical to either something that Ryuma once did, or something that Ryuma's foe once did, could that somehow cause a deja-vous that could re-wire Ryuma's spirit and wake him up from his current state? It almost seems as if it's possible, because when Ryuma first gets a whiff of Zoro's demon aura, he (Ryuma) says things that seem to suggest a partial awakening from a long sleep:
From Stephen's translation:
Ryuma: Quite, I'm sure. You do seem so very STRONG...
I feel some queer, unrecognizable emotion welling with me.
Almost like I've just stared down some enormous creature…
A strange, exciting feeling…!! My body is about to burst into dance!
That highlighted part almost makes it sound as if Ryuma is equating Zoro with the dragon ...
Well, regardless, it's time for me to go reread "Monsters" again -- I have a feeling that there will be other parallels, too!
"Over-thinking,
over-analyzing …"
......-- Tool (from Lateralus)
Dinty, can you tell me where to get "Monsters," plz? I can't seem to find it and now that all this Ryuuma business is going about, I really wanna read it. xD
EDIT: Thx
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Finally read it, great chapter, it was good to see Perona get scared to the point of passing out
Dinty, can you tell me where to get "Monsters," plz? I can't seem to find it and now that all this Ryuuma business is going about, I really wanna read it. xD
! http://www.kefi.org/wanted.php
! (that's Ryuma up in the corner there)
My computer can't read the file when it downloads for some reason, are those the raws?
This talk of what a zombie remembers and what a zombie forgets makes me wonder if perhaps the "they will all eventually forget their former lives and stop rebelling" aspect of zombie-dom can be somehow reversed … for instance, if Zoro does something that is nearly identical to either something that Ryuma once did, or something that Ryuma's foe once did, could that somehow cause a deja-vous that could re-wire Ryuma's spirit and wake him up from his current state? It almost seems as if it's possible, because when Ryuma first gets a whiff of Zoro's demon aura, he (Ryuma) says things that seem to suggest a partial awakening from a long sleep:
From Stephen's translation:
Ryuma: Quite, I'm sure. You do seem so very STRONG...
I feel some queer, unrecognizable emotion welling with me.
Almost like I've just stared down some enormous creature…
A strange, exciting feeling…!! My body is about to burst into dance!That highlighted part almost makes it sound as if Ryuma is equating Zoro with the dragon ...
You might be onto something there that Ryuma's swordsman "heart" might be coming back to the fore now that he has encountered a great challenge in Zoro.
On the other hand though, that: " A strange, exciting feeling…!! My body is about to burst into dance!" line is really quite Brooke-like. So, it's not like the body is rejecting the shadow's personality in anyway.
I wonder if this has anything to do with Brooke and Ryuma being relatively the same size. Moria mentioned in the chapter before last that zombies rebel more when there is a great size disparity between the shadow donor and the zombie (which explains dogpeng and Odz' insubordination.) But because Ryuma and Brooke are the same size, Brooke's shadow got used to his new body and discarded Brooke's ethics and behaviors extremely quickly.
So because the shadow was so happy in its new body, maybe the body's history will have a larger impact than would otherwise be the case?
Ussop Breaking walls was the best he never broke a wall before.Go Ussop.
Well, he did have his body repeatedly smashed through stone before, but I don't think that counts.
And something Usopp needed desperately, plus, most women in One Piece aren't really "power" fighters (with the exception of Ms. Friday and Ms. Doublefinger), Nami, Robin, Perona, Kalifa, etc.
I think you mean Ms. Monday.
And I also agree with boiga about the "bursting into dance" line sounding more like Brook than Ryuma. Plus remember this, Ryuma is dead, his soul has permanately left his body. We'll probably only see Ryuma's sheer strength, but not his personality or his own techniques.
I'm thinking that the dancing flames and the cannon technique Ryuma used on Zoro was something Brook would've been able to master, were he not a skeleton, or can master with special training. Since a zombie keeps the corpse's strength, but the techniques of the shadow's owner, it can be shown through that alone that Ryuma in his own right, is/was far stronger than Brook. Therefore, Ryuma would be able to do things with Brook's techniques that Brook would be unable to do. It's sort of like how since Oz is so much bigger than Luffy, his Gomu Gomu Pistol technique has a wider range than Luffy's.
Also, if the dancing flames is a somewhat perfected form of Brook's fighting style, than it'd be great fight development for him when/if he joins the Straw Hats to try to get to that point Ryuma just hit and maybe perfect it even more.
@Mr.:
Remember last time Robin fought? Excluding the numerous bone snappings, she immobilized Yama, rolled him a hundred yards, and threw him off of a cliff. And he probably weighed half a ton. Which makes me think that Cindry. might have something else up her sleeve.
I think I know what it might be. She's a zombie, and might not be affected by popped joints and being folded over backwards like it would a normal person. At least that's what I think. Robin's regular tricks won't work against Cindry.
I think I know what it might be. She's a zombie, and might not be affected by popped joints and being folded over backwards like it would a normal person. At least that's what I think. Robin's regular tricks won't work against Cindry.
Cindry being a zombie can mean that Robin will "accidentally" rip her arms and legs off while trying to make a "Clutch"
Yeah, I meant Ms. Monday.
And did you guys actually read my post? Because I kind of said that she immobilized a ridiculously strong, massive fat guy and then threw him around. Which has nothing to do with her clutches.
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On the other hand though, that: " A strange, exciting feeling…!! My body is about to burst into dance!" line is really quite Brooke-like. So, it's not like the body is rejecting the shadow's personality in anyway.
True. It does sound Brook-like.
But because Ryuma and Brooke are the same size, Brooke's shadow got used to his new body and discarded Brooke's ethics and behaviors extremely quickly.
So because the shadow was so happy in its new body, maybe the body's history will have a larger impact than would otherwise be the case?
Here's a wild idea: maybe in fighting Zoro, both the shadow and the body will "remember" their spirits and ethics and somehow find a way to rebel against whatever it is that Moria does to them to bring about subordination. We don't really know what that is though, do we? The thing that makes them bow to Moria. But if both the shadow and the body could overcome it, then it would evolve into a "fairer" fight – not resorting to dirty tricks like chopping afros and stuff like that : stuff that seems uncharacteristic of both Brook and Ryuma (or at least the Ryuma we know from "Monsters").
@Mr.:
Yeah, I meant Ms. Monday.
And did you guys actually read my post? Because I kind of said that she immobilized a ridiculously strong, massive fat guy and then threw him around. Which has nothing to do with her clutches.
That doesn't exactly means that she is strong, but shows how her DF can be useful, since it seens like each one of her "fleurs" has the same strenght as her actual arm…....
Dunno if it's too cheap with the real strong people to compare them with a girl who can grow thousands of arms to lift anything she wants...
Right. Which mean she can do the same thing times a billion to a zombie woman.
Unless she has something else up her sleeve.
Why do I have a feeling Zoro's fight will end with a dragon-based technique from Zoro and a cheesy line about how Ryuuma couldn't defeat the dragon zoro unleashed(or something similar)?
Awesome chapter.
My favorite parts were the Usopp vs. Perona fight and when Eneru finds the underground city.
Anyway, can't wait for the next chapter.
^Yeah, but did Usopp give Perona a seizure or something? Since she was foaming at the mouth, that was my favorite part though.
@Crocodile15:
^Yeah, but did Usopp give Perona a seizure or something? Since she was foaming at the mouth, that was my favorite part though.
No, no….it is a silly expression that manga/anime portray when someone is scared senseless. Their eyes roll in the back or their head and foam at the mouth. It's like if you suddenly went crazy and started blowing bubbles from your mouth involuntarily...I honestly do not know where it came from...
Do people seriously think that Zoro gets stronger when he puts on his bandana-thing?…
It doesn't make him stronger, per se. Rather, it makes him more determined… putting him in the right mindset.
Also, Ryuuma was probably the strongest swordsman of his day, as Norland was probably the strongest swordsman of HIS day. Norland was just unbelieveable in general, because Zoro's sword didn't even dent Tsulala and Norland cut his grandfather Kashi-sama right in half with one stroke.
However, I think there's a trick to Ryuuma's sword. It does look like he presses a button on one panel to activate a mechanism... and then immediately does the move that blows a whole in the wall.
I think it's a vibration device that makes the sword vibrate at extremely high speed. That way, something like the pound cannons would have incredible force.
And I think that Zoro will use Shin-3000 Realms to defeat him, using Brooke's shikomizue as his third.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
No, no….it is a silly expression that manga/anime portray when someone is scared senseless. Their eyes roll in the back or their head and foam at the mouth. It's like if you suddenly went crazy and started blowing bubbles from your mouth involuntarily...I honestly do not know where it came from...
Oh, never heard or seen that one before this
Norland was just unbelieveable in general, because Zoro's sword didn't even dent Tsulala and Norland cut his grandfather Kashi-sama right in half with one stroke.
Wasn't Tsulala about ten times larger than Kashi though? I seem to remember Tsulala being freakishly large since she was in the sky.
Ryuma died before Mihawk was born (we're assuming). So, many people are making the logical assumption that while Ryuma was alive, he was "the Mihawk of his time," – that is, the most celebrated swordsman of his time, if only because Mihawk wasn't around yet. If Ryuma once held the title of "the strongest swordsman", then even in his current reduced strength-zombie incarnation, he'd pose a significant threat to Zoro.
there is nothing like any proof for this though…nothing...its basically just said that he is a legendary samurai that killed a dragon...OZ seems to have more renown than Ryuma, and he led a legendary Kingdom...but does this mean he was as strong as Gold Roger....Face it, Mihawk is Zoro's ultimate Goal...he hasn't shown much of his power yet at all...it is pretty much a given that he is by far the strongest swordsman in One Piece. Given the set up of the Manga, its doubtful Ryuma ever was or is anywhere near as strong as Mihawk
Oh shit, people saying Norland was the strongest hahah...where the hell are people getting this stuff from...Norland always seem mid tier strong...at Wipers level actually. I mean he was at Calgara's level...and he couldn't defeat the people in the Sky...who were way below Enel...who is way below Mihawk
It's not overdo. It's a French term Aubade. It's a song evoking daybreak.
It's also a brand of pretty lingerie :-)
there is nothing like any proof for this though…nothing...its basically just said that he is a legendary samurai that killed a dragon...OZ seems to have more renown than Ryuma, and he led a legendary Kingdom...but does this mean he was as strong as Gold Roger....Face it, Mihawk is Zoro's ultimate Goal...he hasn't shown much of his power yet at all...it is pretty much a given that he is by far the strongest swordsman in One Piece. Given the set up of the Manga, its doubtful Ryuma ever was or is anywhere near as strong as Mihawk
Oh shit, people saying Norland was the strongest hahah...where the hell are people getting this stuff from...Norland always seem mid tier strong...at Wipers level actually. I mean he was at Calgara's level...and he couldn't defeat the people in the Sky...who were way below Enel...who is way below Mihawk
are you saying Mihawk > Enel ? a lot of ppl r speculating about Norland just like they are speculating about ryuma. You make it seems as killing a mythical/legendary monster is a small feat. Ryuma attack launch on zoro was devastating and he just a mere shell of his former self. Your obv a Mihawk fanboy so just go some where and wish mihawk was a main character in the story
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