Seeing how powerful some DF are, I just hope that, in that place where One Piece is hidden, DF won't have any effect anymore ! That would 1- allow anyone to find it, and not only superpowerful DF users, and 2- require some specific quality to reach it, maybe extra-intelligence, or extra-will. And it would explain why none of these supra-powerful marines could reach it yet (unless…). Also, it would give my new theory some credit :-) -> after reaching Raftel, you lose your DF power -> it seems that Roger didn't have any DF when he died ? Rayleigh doesn't seem to use any either. Shanks (did he get there ?) has no DF. Garp doesn't (I think he also reached OP at some time). Etc. (I don't think Buggy went there) It seems that except for the 3 admiral, all the super-strong characters of OP don't use DF.
Chapter 508 "Isle of Carnage" Discussion
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why do you think Buggy didn't go there.
Didn't rayleigh say that the crew was disbanded after he conquered the Grand Line. So Devil Fruits are not gone then. Cause Buggy still has his.
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My theory is that Buggy was asleep when the rest of the crew went to Raftel, and when they came back, he was even more angry after Shanks not to have awaken him :-)
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I know it's been established already, but to put an end to it once and for all, here's Oda's take on Miss Goldenweek's powers.
@SBS:
D: I have a question, no introductions. Did Miss Golden Week eat one of those fruits?
O: No, she… how should I say this? She's kind of like a hypnotist. Those people use suggestion, and "color" in this case, to excite people and calm people, and when revved up enough can use these skills as attacks, but they do not have Devil Fruit Powers.So it's hypnotism not magic.
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@ultimateclima:
So it's hypnotism not magic.
Yes, I know that. Still doesn't explain how she can paint on the frickin' sky. Or have people suddenly change their outfits. It may be hypnotism, but there's a certain "magical" quality to it.
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I agree… there is Magic to some degree in OP... Even Jango's abilities are pretty unrealistic...but i think its a good thing
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Read it. And wondered if I was actually reading One Piece. It just didn't feel like One Piece to me, the magic feeling I get whenever I read a One Piece chapter wasn't here, the entire chapter felt so "surreal".
I dunno why.
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It just didn't feel like One Piece to me, the magic feeling I get whenever I read a One Piece chapter wasn't here, the entire chapter felt so "surreal".
I find this funny, because to me, One Piece is the definition of "surreal".
Oda would make Dali proud.
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The chapter was awesome. It seems that Kizaru has a devil fruit ability, but I do not think it is a logia type. Because the fact that a couple chapters ago, a bullet that was shot at him did not go through him like previous logia type users. I think he might have the Flash Flash fruit because flashes go fast and Kizaru mentioned "speed of light".
Also, Capone's devil fruit power is awesome. It's cool that he keeps all those troops inside him. Lastly, Basil Hawkins is beginning to be my favorite Supernova because of the card predictions and how he acts. -
I wonder where Capone's food goes when he eats, since his stomach kinda seems ta be hollow.
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The chapter was awesome. It seems that Kizaru has a devil fruit ability, but I do not think it is a logia type. Because the fact that a couple chapters ago, a bullet that was shot at him did not go through him like previous logia type users. I think he might have the Flash Flash fruit because flashes go fast and Kizaru mentioned "speed of light".
….Wouldn´t it be more fun if he had no devil fruit at all? Simple uber strongness and speed should do it - just think about Sanji, he too has no DF but of late his kicking strength started to produce heat/light effects … go Sanji go!:happy:
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I really do hope that Whitebeard is one of thoses powerful guys that don't got a devil fruit power. Just Uber like Shanks (So far as we seen) and Mihawk. I don't have anything against devil fruit powers, Just like some things to show that you don't have to have a powerful devil fruit to make it, in the big leauges of the One Piece world. Yellow Monkey kicking fools at the speed of light was epic, I hope some of the 11 Super losers gets there Fish men Island/New World adventure plans canceled here and now by Yellow Monkey and "Kuma every where", and for the ones who make it off that island, and to Fishmen Island, I hope they greeted by Jinbei and gang at bag pick up.
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I think all the Youkou shouldn't have a devil fruit, it'd make sense too if all the Shichibukai had devil fruits… but not all of them do.
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You guys are all grasping at air.
I am not pro or against any of this, since there is just too much discussion. I want to wait things out. Yet, I want to be a bit hypocritical by asking or suggesting a few things:
@Fire:
Mr. 5's shoe became a bomb, does that make him a logia too?
His leg is still there. It didn't "become" anything. Just created an explosion. So I think that was a poor point to make things "interesting". I was bored still….
@Zkaiser:Oh shit!! Mr. 3 was turning into wax!!!!
The shape suggests that his arm could still be in there, nice and solid, just surrounded by wax he created. Though the same could be said of Kizaru's, the picture almost goes out of its way to show that he has some sort of "light" ability (be it Devil Fruit, or just skill), and yet it makes a closeup on his foot where the drawing itself makes it clear (to me) that it is not just motion blur or an effect, but something happening to his foot itself.
Also, he makes a laser from his hand??? Devil Fruit. Unless this is magic now? Laser…what makes a laser again??? Ohhh light does! And how was he kicking? At the speed of what now??? Ohhh!! Light! Interesting....hmmm, I bet he has advanced roukishiki or whatever and no Devil Fruit though....since nothing is conclusive and I like to pick my buggers.
Next:
A blood-blood fruit.
Yeah that would be cool. Though I fear people would hate on it due to DW. Unless Oda obviously tributes to it somehow?? Doubtful though.
Lastly, I would really still like to see some examples of 'unexplained magic' regardless of whether or not other people have given up "feeding the trolls". Not to argue, just out of curiosity. Oh! And who remembers the Moonraker from 007. LOL, that gun was awesome…...and sucked too.
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Though the same could be said of Kizaru's,
Which is the point we are atempting to get across. =P
I'm not saying that Kizaru can't be a logia. I think most of us are trying to to suggest it's still uncertain wether he has a logia or paramecia.
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Kizaru vs Rayleigh could be epic. But it will probably be Rayleigh vs Garp. Still epic :-)
Buuuuut… if Rayleigh faces Garp, then Kizaru will still be here, and I can't imagine anyone else on the island being able to handle him. So 3 days will be very long ! :-o Buuuuut... if Oda already announced 3 days of survival, knowing how strong some characters are (I mean that the SH have absolutely no chance against them, Rayleigh is supposed to be 100x stronger than Luffy), it means that he thought of a really big surprise to save them. Can't wait !!!!! -
Kizaru vs Rayleigh could be epic. But it will probably be Rayleigh vs Garp. Still epic :-)
Buuuuut… if Rayleigh faces Garp, then Kizaru will still be here, and I can't imagine anyone else on the island being able to handle him. So 3 days will be very long ! :-o Buuuuut... if Oda already announced 3 days of survival, knowing how strong some characters are (I mean that the SH have absolutely no chance against them, Rayleigh is supposed to be 100x stronger than Luffy), it means that he thought of a really big surprise to save them. Can't wait !!!!!I doubt Rayleigh is going to fight anyone seriously. He said it himself that he just wants to be an old men who is into the coating buisness and rather avoid the marines getting to know who he really is.
Most likely Garp will just give up on chasing Rayleigh after having a short chat with him, go a bit after Luffy with Luffy barely making his escape to Fishman Island and afterwards prepare to fight against Whitebeard. -
Read it. And wondered if I was actually reading One Piece. It just didn't feel like One Piece to me, the magic feeling I get whenever I read a One Piece chapter wasn't here, the entire chapter felt so "surreal".
I dunno why.
Maybe it was something you ate:P
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Which is the point we are attempting to get across […] it's still uncertain whether he has a logia or paramecia.
I suppose. But from what I have been reading in this thread it seems like Fire Fist, and Zkaiser – maybe a few others? -- were almost bashing rusashi for what seems to be more than likely to be the case. The only reason I am not betting all on the Light Logia or some such is because Oda simply is way too hard to predict, as he can pull the strangest ideas out of his…......head. But so far, like I mentioned in my previous post -- everything points to Logia, and everything else points to it being Light Logia.
Do we resolve to this? No, I suppose not until it is final and fact. Do we argue it further? Well, I would say constructive theories are good -- not useless opinion bashing. I just don't know, I have seen stronger theories and support for much less evidence so many times before, and yet this time we have:
- Shot in the head: Dodge, Doesn't hurt/Resistant, Logia
- Foot did something Logia-ish
- Shoots a laser from his finger
Now to me, the laser makes it the most conclusive. I will give in that the foot part doesn't solidify any theory, though it does seem (again) like Oda went out of his way for a close up on the foot to show what was happening before he drops the Logia Bomb (Much like Enel right?).
Then there is the gun shot. I cannot recall a great many places that Oda has shown someone get shot in the head. First of all, if/when he did I am sure it would be for a reason; in this case, didn't the pirates who shot him say "That just went straight through his head, right?". Why would Oda toss that in, after showing a bullet at least to the head if not through it? We are supposed to assume that the Pirate must have been seeing things? Or was it that he dodged it and made it look like it went through his head even after seeing some sort of impact or something on Kizaru's head??
idk. I am being a hypocrite because I would rather wait it out, but at the same time it seems so obvious…..but then again we all know Oda is never obvious. BUT! I think people should be more lenient and let those who chose to believe for believe for and those against the same.....or something.
Wait....no.........or......Blood-Blood Fruit really would be awesome....
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Another possibility is that he could be a Pacifista, whether he's upgraded from Kuma or not. He could have a missile launcher in his foot, and since Kuma can fire lasers from his mouth, why wouldn't Kizaru be able to fire them from his fingers? As well, the bullet connected with his head, but it didn't leave a mark. This could mean that he's a logia, or it could mean that his skin was hard enough that the bullet didn't do any damage.
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Fun chapter :) ! As for abilities:
Demon monk: Obviously he changes his size (his mettle thing looks like a tiny hand club now), however it'd be cool if it was actulay some kind of "revenge fruit" ability. Like he can increase his size/power based on the dmg he takes.
Capone: Wow. It's all been said so just wow. Castle-fruit ftw
Basil: Fate-Fate no Mi. Control of fate, however requires some kind of medium to quantify/qualify the ability.
He transfered the fate of being injured onto the other pirates via the medium of dolls, which respresented them
He used the cards much as would any other tarrot card reader, simply altering there fate so that the predicitons made by the cards are true (as opposed to the more common fate of being false)Bonny: Noones said to much on her ability, though it seems to be control of age, the only thing of note is she probably has to keep the total ages the same Aka she has to make someone older in exchange for making somone else younger.
Kizaru: Light light fruit. logia. Stop, think, and you will see. Light isn't physical. To be made into a destructive laser requirres a few seconds of focusing.
When he attacked Basil he turned to light causing him to be instantly in position, however he had to rematerialise at the last moment, because light isn't physical so the attack wouldn't have any effect otherwise.
Next detail. Light is weghtless so moving at its speed is possible. However a super human fruit that simply let him move at the speed of light would be absurd, to accelerate a mass to that speed, why that kick alone wouldve needed infanitly more energy then a nuclear explosion.
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i find i lamee if Kizaru ends up as a Pacifista… but that would explain his abilities.. guess we just wait for tommorw for spoilers :D
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Pacifista? You don't need to go so far!
Tekkai can also explain how Kizaru was able to take a shot to the head without harm. Have you forgot Rokushiki already?
I think Kizaru is Logia, however. But there's nothing conclusive so far. Oda loves to play with powers before he reveals them.
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- Shot in the head: Dodge, Doesn't hurt/Resistant, Logia
- Foot did something Logia-ish
- Shoots a laser from his finger
Now to me, the laser makes it the most conclusive. I will give in that the foot part doesn't solidify any theory, though it does seem (again) like Oda went out of his way for a close up on the foot to show what was happening before he drops the Logia Bomb (Much like Enel right?).
None of them are specific to Logias. There are Paramecias who mimick those things in some fashion. For the first one, it'd be unlikely for a pirate on or above the level of the stronger Strawhats were hurt by a bullet
Then there is the gun shot. I cannot recall a great many places that Oda has shown someone get shot in the head. First of all, if/when he did I am sure it would be for a reason; in this case, didn't the pirates who shot him say "That just went straight through his head, right?". Why would Oda toss that in, after showing a bullet at least to the head if not through it? We are supposed to assume that the Pirate must have been seeing things? Or was it that he dodged it and made it look like it went through his head even after seeing some sort of impact or something on Kizaru's head??
It seemed to met hat they were simply shocked that someone could take that bullet so they assumed that was the case. The guy both asks "Didn't I just hit him?" and "That went straight through his head right?" The visual evidence indicates that he was hit (which would sort of make it much less likely that he's a logia.)
Either way, nothing obvious pointing him towards being a logia.
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But so far, like I mentioned in my previous post – everything points to Logia, and everything else points to it being Light Logia.
You must excuse me but I haven't seen anything pointing towards logia. The only distinct evidence of a logia (Blackbeards darkness excluded) is the ability to turn untouchable. And Kizaru has shown us he DOES get hit by physical blows.
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None of them are specific to Logias. There are Paramecias who mimick those things in some fashion.
I agree, but I was meaning they point towards a possibility of Logia, and that either way Light appears to be what he can effect. Now, I cannot think of a Fruit that would allow light manipulation to this degree without being a Logia. Especially with the other "hints".
For the first one, it'd be unlikely for a pirate on or above the level of the stronger Strawhats were hurt by a bullet –- Either way, nothing obvious pointing him towards being a logia.
I agree again, but my point here was that Oda usually draws this stuff for a reason, or mentions this stuff for a reason. Unless he is purposely hinting so we go down a false trail? Seems unlikely though. The main point for me is that someone actually shoots his head. Now, if it WERE another ability – it would seem weird to introduce him, have someone think "i will overwhelm him when he isnt paying attention", and then they freak out because.....? They THINK it goes through him? When it actually hits him with no effect? I just don't understand why Oda would write it like that. It's a hint, isn't it??
And Kizaru has shown us he DOES get hit by physical blows.
It has??? That bullet shot might LOOK like he is getting hit, but if he is LIGHT then the blow away effect (Like smoker looks like smoke w/ holes. Ace like fire w/ holes); his would just be a flash where there would have been a hole on his head right? Gone in a flash. Hehe.
Again, I am not for or against necessarily. I just think there is more evidence, or at least hinting, FOR. It seems like people are grabbing anything to go against. Like Garp getting cut while asleep, or the lasers being he is a Pacafista, or the bullet hitting when he does Tekkai.
If this next chapter he said "I am a Light-Light Human" or something. Everyone would be like "Oh yeah, that makes sense…" and everything would fit. Everything else is like grasping for any other possible alternative and refuting all the possible hints given here. So again, I personally see more evidence pointing towards Logia.
Wait....stop making me defend this!! I am a hypocrite!!!
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It has??? That bullet shot might LOOK like he is getting hit, but if he is LIGHT then the blow away effect (Like smoker looks like smoke w/ holes. Ace like fire w/ holes); his would just be a flash where there would have been a hole on his head right? Gone in a flash. Hehe.
Again, I am not for or against necessarily. I just think there is more evidence, or at least hinting, FOR. It seems like people are grabbing anything to go against. Like Garp getting cut while asleep, or the lasers being he is a Pacafista, or the bullet hitting when he does Tekkai.
And you are doing the same it seems. Why would there be smoke out of a light logia? and why is there no hole?Iirc there was only the fire effect from Ace as long as there was a hole in his form.
And in the previous panel when the bullet acctually hits, instead of that kind of hole effect we get when any of the other logias we see get hit, we get an impact effect. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/507/14/
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Another possibility is that he could be a Pacifista, whether he's upgraded from Kuma or not. He could have a missile launcher in his foot, and since Kuma can fire lasers from his mouth, why wouldn't Kizaru be able to fire them from his fingers? As well, the bullet connected with his head, but it didn't leave a mark. This could mean that he's a logia, or it could mean that his skin was hard enough that the bullet didn't do any damage.
my god this can
t be real from your side…:getlost: do you rly think there is even the smallest chance that he is a Pacifista....lol can
t believe some1 making such theories...there is nothing, NOTHING behind that statement....but why not posting ,whatever. getting near FFA`s theoriesit
s like. yeah Kizaru is actually mr.2...could be...but...HELL NO!!!!!!!! with a little bit brain you will understand that your and my theory can
t be true and even as a suggestion this theorys suck ...
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And you are doing the same it seems. […] we get an impact effect.
I would hardly say this is air. I am claiming that what your view says is an impact, mine says it is just Oda drawing the bullet hitting his head (and passing through) from a distant and rear angle to make us think along with the Pirates "Did it pass through…...? Is he a logia!?"
The following angle (from the front view) shows no hole, which I assumed was just the small bullet hit already covered back up / healed (again, to make us wonder) with the smoke (which I never saw until this time) simply as a way to prove "Hey, he did get shot....but no wound and no recognition...so it did go through him?"
If I were writing the story then I would use these types of hints, personally. I wouldn't decide to write and draw like that just to be like "Haha, he just has a hard head / used tekkai / is an idiot and is secretly bleeding to death"
I mean, which is more believable for us as readers:
1. Got shot but is Logia. Potentially Light Logia, so everything makes sense.
2. Got shot but is a Paramecia, yet can shoot lasers AND kick at the speed of light AND can take bullets to the head.
3. Got shot but is so strong bullets to the head do not effect him enough to even draw his attention. And his lasers and kicking the speed of light are just other abilities.Choice one asks you to assume Oda was wanting everything to be a hint, and not obvious for a few chapters; showing us smoke but no wound, showing the foot drawn as if it were turning into something else, and him shooting a laser from his finger with his ability, and kicking to make some sort of explosion (laser as well?). Choice two neglects Logia only to make a more difficult Paramecia to imagine for me. Choice three neglects logia only to assume his other abilities are a mixture of skill / paramecia / pacifista.
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I would draw it like that to make it ambiguous.
I would really appreciate it if someone would translate the sfx in that panel. =)
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I think all the Youkou shouldn't have a devil fruit, it'd make sense too if all the Shichibukai had devil fruits… but not all of them do.
I think the Youkou will be one of those types pf people that have powers like sanji and Zoro,and franky..Swords,Martial artist,cyborgs.Who knows maybe one Younkou is a sniper.
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not all the logia's can make themselves untouchable, just think of Ao Kiji, would you say that ice is untouchable? For me it seems like Kizaru can move the air, he can kick the air to a speed where it's destroying power is as big as a rocketlauncher but his attack is much faster, and with his fingers he can do the same thing.
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Knowing how the last big enemies (Lucci and Moria) were Zoan and Paramecia and we don´t have seen a villain with this power fightning the Mugiwaras since AoKiji and in form of a great enemy since Eneru then I am sure that Kizaru is a logia.
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not all the logia's can make themselves untouchable, just think of Ao Kiji, would you say that ice is untouchable?
You need to think beyond that though. If they change into the element then yes, they are untouchable. If AoKiji was shot I would imagine the area hit would shatter, but not kill him. Just re-form after that.
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@Don:
my god this can
t be real from your side…:getlost: do you rly think there is even the smallest chance that he is a Pacifista....lol can
t believe some1 making such theories...there is nothing, NOTHING behind that statement....but why not posting ,whatever. getting near FFA`s theoriesit
s like. yeah Kizaru is actually mr.2...could be...but...HELL NO!!!!!!!! with a little bit brain you will understand that your and my theory can
t be true and even as a suggestion this theorys suck ...
... cmon don
t say something just to say anything ...You don't have to be that rude… I was just suggesting that it didn't necessarily have to be a Devil Fruit power, and I was offering an alternative. Besides, the bullet appears to make contact with his head...
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/507/14/ (see bottom-left panel)
…but it doesn't do any damage. (The smoke on his head indicates that it probably hit, instead of passing through his body if he was a Logia user)
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/507/15/
That at least opens up the possibility of Kizaru being either a Rokushiki user (it's known to government agents, and Coby knows it) or a Pacifista (the aforementioned abilities, plus him using Pacifistas as foot soldiers). I just think it would be boring if all of the Admirals have Logia Devil Fruits, even though they are supposed to be the rarest type.
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the bullet appears to make contact with his head. link (see bottom-left panel) But it doesn't do any damage. (The smoke on his head indicates that it probably hit, instead of passing through his body if he was a Logia user) link
I think too many people look at Logia's like the T1000 from Terminator 2. Just because they are shot, and the hole appears, does not mean it takes a certain duration of time to recover. In Kizaru's case it could easily have already restored his body. There doesn't need to be a hole still there – in fact, if there were still a hole there (and he were a Logia), then there would be no suspense and no "is that what happened?". Which, I believe is why he shows the smoke and no hole. Why wouldn't Oda just wrap it up and show a smashed bullet or something on the back of his head if that is what happened? Why hint at the Logia possibility by following up with the line from that Pirate??
I HATE YOU ALL!! You are baiting me to defend this theory!! Why!???!
@brennen.exe:Which is more believable for us as readers?:
1. Got shot but is Logia. Potentially Light Logia, so everything makes sense.
2. Got shot but is a Paramecia, yet can shoot lasers AND kick at the speed of light AND can take bullets to the head.
3. Got shot but is so strong bullets to the head do not effect him enough to even draw his attention. And his lasers and kicking the speed of light are just other abilities.Condensed the explanation, read if you want:
! * Choice one asks you to assume Oda was wanting everything to be a hint, and not obvious for a few chapters; showing us smoke but no wound, showing the foot drawn as if it were turning into something else, and him shooting a laser from his finger with his ability, and kicking to make some sort of explosion (laser as well?).
! * Choice two neglects Logia only to make a more difficult Paramecia to imagine for me.
! * Choice three neglects logia only to assume his other abilities are a mixture of skill / paramecia / pacifista.Though I understand you are only meaning to provide alternatives for theory, and given what we have seen there is reason enough to give those ideas a solid ground as theory – I just think the evidence points elsewhere. Urr, not evidence -- 'hints'. Or, as I see it. I hope I don't bait myself again.
So does anyone have any moments where there is 'unexplained magic'??
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Probably doesn't count, but in the second Romance Dawn, the villain Hexagon used black magic, though technically it wasn't so much magic as, ''I'ma blow stuff up'', and he used a dirk and flintlock as well.
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Well,im just gonna ask-any negative news for this week so far ?
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any negative news for this week so far?
There was an Earthquake where I live this morning. It was a 5.8 according to the news.
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Yea, I felt it 2.
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You don't have to be that rude… I was just suggesting that it didn't necessarily have to be a Devil Fruit power, and I was offering an alternative.
That at least opens up the possibility of Kizaru being either a Rokushiki user (it's known to government agents, and Coby knows it) or a Pacifista (the aforementioned abilities, plus him using Pacifistas as foot soldiers). I just think it would be boring if all of the Admirals have Logia Devil Fruits, even though they are supposed to be the rarest type.
iam sry don
t wanted to offend you… yeah it´s an alternative but surely not the truth.. but when you write such a suggestion ,than you at least thought that it could be true and i thought that you
re a more careful OP reader ,so that you should know that something COULD be an alternative but finally is to stupid to be even worth writing it ..but in the end he will be a Pacifista and than you will be my hero ,megadoomer
but so far you`re just some1 who has bad "alternatives" !!I HATE YOU ALL!! You are baiting me to defend this theory!! Why!???!
Though I understand you are only meaning to provide alternatives for theory, and given what we have seen there is reason enough to give those ideas a solid ground as theory – I just think the evidence points elsewhere. Urr, not evidence -- 'hints'. Or, as I see it. I hope I don't bait myself again.So does anyone have any moments where there is 'unexplained magic'??
you
re like norland (saying the truth but nobody believes you)..:happy: but anyways iam on your side…all hints should be clear and who don
t want to believe it\dont like logias\has just his own crazy "alternatives" should wait only a few more chapters... so far i think also it will be a logia...or a paramecia which i couldn
t imagine since a week.(so actually it would be pretty awesome when kizaru is a paramecia user)and yeah i found a "unexplained magic" moment myself:blink:
in movie 5 there is a cursed sword and i would think this was actually magic ...
but like we all know this movie isnt from oda himself and so it
s not even worth mentioning as an example for "unexplained magic"..
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I don't think we can count Movies / Anime / Romance Dawn for the Magic. But, it's strange. Though we do not consider Anime and such as canon, I think it sucks that Devil Fruit's used in them most likely will not debut in the actual Manga. Like the Wind and Water Logia's.
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I don't think we can count Movies / Anime / Romance Dawn for the Magic. But, it's strange. Though we do not consider Anime and such as canon, I think it sucks that Devil Fruit's used in them most likely will not debut in the actual Manga. Like the Wind and Water Logia's.
true words…especially the liquid-fruit from movie 2 hurts:sad:
but the wind-fruit (maybe as logia) i think we will see (probably dragon),eric just had there a paramecia fruit which could create cutting wind like rankyaku.. -
I would draw it like that to make it ambiguous.
I would really appreciate it if someone would translate the sfx in that panel. =)
The sound effects in that panel are "DON!!! DON!!" which would translate to English as BANG BANG or BOOM BOOM.
The more interesting effect is on the very next page: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/507/15/
The sound effect on the bottom panel left side is "pyuun" which indicates extremely fast movement. It is used alot for things like light. The sound effect is used again on page 10 of Chapter 508 as he shoots the 'laser' from his finger. Plus he made a "Pika" sound earlier which is to sparkle. We can figure that by sound effects alone he has some sort of Light ability. Hope that clears things up a little.
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@Don:
teric just had there a paramecia fruit which could create cutting wind like rankyaku
Oh! I didn't know that. I don't watch the anime (I watch the movies though) and only noticed him in a short clip….at one point a long time ago. I remember thinking it was cool...
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Kizaru. You may not want to be a logia but he is.
His blasts deal heat dmg. He makes laser sound effects. He can move super fast. It's NOT drawn like any Rokushiki, with the obvious unique light effect effect on the foot.
Anyone noticed that he stopped moving super speed the moment before he hit basil. Furthermore there were no sound effects, suggestion it was truly instentanious (no time for sound reach). Light isn't solid so he has to rematialise to deal dmg. E=mc2
The enrgie it takes light to reach its speed is 0. To make a mass move that fast…. so high moving a mass of matter through air at that speed would cause nuclear explosions unto itselfConclusion: Kizaru has light based logia fruit.
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has anyone realized that a bullet passing through light doesn't cause smoke, so the smoke coming from his head is not evidence of a light fruit