I like how Hatchan defeated all three of the Macro pirates just by punching them.
Chapter 493 "I know" Discussion
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With one arm per Macro, to boot.
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That was really cool for a former villan.
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You know, Duval's armor reminds me of Jouz, the one commander for Whitebeard's crew. And that silhouette that we see when talking through the denden mushi looks kinda like….Crocodile. So I'm thinking we're seeing someone totally new here, cuz nothing really makes sense out of this guy.
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I like how even Duval's Den-Den Mushi wears an iron mask. Is everyone on the Grand Line going to wind up having a personalized Snail?
Action-wise, this chapter left little that I would complain about: the fighting started right away, without resorting to any further build-up of the villains. They hardly need it- human traffickers are scum, pretty much in everyone's eyes but their own. I laughed to see the hypnosis gag re-used, especially since Chopper even got caught in it. I hope Brook has a few more such surprises up his tattered sleeves.
Of course Luffy freaked out- it's not every day you find out your cook is involved with human trafficking!
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LOLLLLLL
i love hatchan apologising so sincerely to zoro for hurting him LOLLL.
Top 5 funniest idiotic villians, along with Gedatsu, Kumadori, Mr.2 and Foxy/Buggy/Jango fighting for the 5th spot, they shall form a crew or something.
I wish someone can make a wallpaper with them in it. i will hang it on my wall!
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It is so Don Krieg if it isn't a brand new character. Don Krieg was a big guy, this was before we had half-giant looking large people too.
Meaning Oda at the time had not planned to make people so large. With Krieg returning he can make him more menacing for his size by upping it. Back when Krieg first appeared he was really big and menacing looking anyways. Oda has inconsistant sizes anyways.
Either that or it is Hattori. The pidgeon was a Zoan all along!
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Yeah, u got me, but Maxim could only be powered by Enel himself, so it couldn't be copied…
I know Oda can do whatever he wants, it just looks like Oda really isn't into the flying thing, he makes absolutelly clear how rare is anything that flies at OP world..- He said how many of the devil fruits could give flying power, the only time (I think) he wrote about non-shown DFs
- He clearly wrote about how much time the flying fish could be in the air, showing that they could not stay out of the other more than 5 minutes
The only flying machines I can think are the Maxim (like I said, that can only be piloted by Enel), and the Octopus that helped them after Skypiea (and I don't think they have power to lift a baloon, ar at least don't know how)....
That's pure guessing, but maybe Franky can make a flying device that could only be powered for minutes....dunno....
I see where you´re coming from, but I fail to see why any of that should be an argument against a small flying vehicle for Channel 4. As I said, a Channel 4 flying vehicle is unlikely something that will make them sail the Grand Line faster because a) it is transported inside Sunny and not vice versa and b) wouldn´t be able to transport the entire crew to begin with. And furthermore a set time period is something that I consider a given for a flying vehicle which would be created by Franky. Even if it would have a max. flight time of 1 day then it wouldn´t make sailing the Grand Line easier now would it? ;)
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@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
DUVAL = WAPOL (Same number of letters and all)
What did he ate?
D > Don krieg.
U > kUro.
V- Belllamy (the V could be a mistake for all that we know. The actual translation could be duBal)
A- Arlong (perhaps he only got the shark fangs)
L- wapoL.
That's why he's so big and such a mess
that would have some semblance of making sense if we had the official english spelling of "duval," but so far that is just what we've been calling him as english speaking fans. the real spelling of デュバル could have any number of english spellings with more or less letters than "duval," making the search for past characters' names in it even more farfetched.
i know that by merely responding to this i have failed. sigh. :wassat:
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Top 5 funniest idiotic villians, along with Gedatsu, Kumadori, Mr.2 and Foxy/Buggy/Jango fighting for the 5th spot, they shall form a crew or something.
Mr. 2 isn't an idiot, he is a sanji's like guy, and sanji isn't idiot.
they both look and act stupid when Mr. 2 is modelling is face or when there's a girl around sanji. But they can both make-up very elaborate plots…Mr. 5 is a complete idiot
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I think Duval is someone from Skypea because of the Bazooka (DIal)
or someone of the Frankies is pissed because the strawhats stole their Boss.
they used Bazookas tooBut maybe its Cpt Rat (I dont know the english name, in german he is called Rat), that marine guy who got money from Arlong…
Maybe he got fired for his lost against the strawhat and trained very hard^^or Dadan
or Kriegwe will see^^
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I think Duval is someone from Skypea because of the Bazooka (DIal)
or someone of the Frankies is pissed because the strawhats stole their Boss.
they used Bazookas tooBut maybe its Cpt Rat (I dont know the english name, in german he is called Rat), that marine guy who got money from Arlong…
Maybe he got fired for his lost against the strawhat and trained very hard^^or Dadan
or Kriegwe will see^^
No, it's not a bazooka, it's a harpoon gun with 4 harpoons.
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I see where you´re coming from, but I fail to see why any of that should be an argument against a small flying vehicle for Channel 4. As I said, a Channel 4 flying vehicle is unlikely something that will make them sail the Grand Line faster because a) it is transported inside Sunny and not vice versa and b) wouldn´t be able to transport the entire crew to begin with. And furthermore a set time period is something that I consider a given for a flying vehicle which would be created by Franky. Even if it would have a max. flight time of 1 day then it wouldn´t make sailing the Grand Line easier now would it? ;)
So, we are almost discussing diferent points, since I do agree with u about a possibility of a flying machine, since it would definitively have a way to work for a limited time (maybe a limited supply of Cola)…
And u can agree with me about Oda making clear that fly is not a common thing in the OP world...I guess this makes a construtive discussion...
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So, we are almost discussing diferent points, since I do agree with u about a possibility of a flying machine, since it would definitively have a way to work for a limited time (maybe a limited supply of Cola)…
And u can agree with me about Oda making clear that fly is not a common thing in the OP world...Of course I agree on all that. I never said flying is a common thing but something that is possible albeit rare in the OP world, thus giving opportunities for Channel 4 having a flying vehicle that works within the parameters of the Oda-verse.^^
I guess this makes a construtive discussion…
I guess so to. Pretty rare sight in these forums lately, huh?^^
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I think Duval is someone from Skypea because of the Bazooka (DIal)
or someone of the Frankies is pissed because the strawhats stole their Boss.
they used Bazookas tooBut maybe its Cpt Rat (I dont know the english name, in german he is called Rat), that marine guy who got money from Arlong…
Maybe he got fired for his lost against the strawhat and trained very hard^^or Dadan
or Kriegwe will see^^
His english name is Nezumi.
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His english name is Nezumi.
Considering Nezumi is Japanese for Mouse or Rat…
But it's a name, so it's untranslated. It'd be like calling Krieg Don War, and Nami Wave. Or Sanji "3 O'clock". It's one thing if it's a title, like in B. Bear's case, but not if it's their direct name.
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@Fire Fist:
Considering Nezumi is Japanese for Mouse or Rat…
But it's a name, so it's untranslated. It'd be like calling Krieg Don War, and Nami Wave. Or Sanji "3 O'clock". It's one thing if it's a title, like in B. Bear's case, but not if it's their direct name.
German nearly always translates names.
Fukurou is called Eule (owl)
Kaku is called Ecki (angle)
Higuma is called Grizzly
Bartholomew Kuma is called Bartolomäus Bär (Bartolomäus Bear)
Kumadori is called Hog Snout (no, he's not :P)
Don Krieg is called Don Creek (why they did this, I don't know since Krieg is German)
Iron Wall Pearl is called Perle Eisenschild (Pearl Iron Shield - and on Danish Palle Jernskjold (Palle don't mean Pearl, it's a Danish boy name, and Jernskjold means Iron Shield))
Kuro is called Black
Tsuru is called Kranich (Crane)
and so on…Just the worst examples :(
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German nearly always translates names.
Don Krieg is called Don Creek (why they did this, I don't know since Krieg is German)
Well if I remember correctly on the one piece site from the shueisha site, the link to go to Don Krieg crew is something like blabla/Creek.html so wright Creek instead of Krieg isn't completly false I think…
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Thanks Hvedekorn.
This is pretty left field, but what if Hatchi ending up joining the crew???
Oda has done crazier stuff… Would be quite interesting... then they'd have someone to give them the in's and out's of fishman island.Ok, that's a pretty crazy theory.... other crazy theories, i wonder if there are any parallels to Keimii and pappagu and Vivi and Karue. Pappagu is already 100x better to me... he can talk at least, and has a groovy Jamaican accent from stephen's scripts :) Great job stephen, totally loved that impression you gave him.
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@Monkey:
Well if I remember correctly on the one piece site from the shueisha site, the link to go to Don Krieg crew is something like blabla/Creek.html so wright Creek instead of Krieg isn't completly false I think…
Possibly :)
Some of the "wrong" German names is just incorrect romanizations. Before Luffy got his official English name written, it was both correct to romanize his name "Luffy" and "Ruffy". -
Translations at Mangahelpers by Carlos Net
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One Piece
Chapter 493: "You Know"
CP9's Independent Report Vol. 3: "Save Rob Lucci"2
[Insert text: A battle of sea and sky!! VS the Flying Fish Riders!!]
Hacchan: Nyu~~~~! Caimie!! Pappagg!! // It's too dangerous, you two get back!!
Macro: Dammitall… // We're getting Caimie back!!!
Luffy: Come and get her!! Flaying Fish!!
Caimie: Stretch 'em~!! / Go for it, Luffy-chi~~~~n!!3
Someone: Watch out!!! // ?!! // Here they come!!!4
Luffy: Now then, lessee... who has the freshest fish...?
Rider: Hm?
Luffy: GOOOOOOOTCHAAAAAAA!!
Rider: Wha - ?!5
Usopp: Gahh!! Bombs!! // They're pelting them on us!!
Sanji: Ngh...
Usopp: Aahhh!! That was a close one!!!
Sanji: ...Ugh... throwin' bombs at a lady... // I'm not gonna let you live after that...!!
Chopper: Luffy's hanging on to a flying fish!!
Nami: Lower the sail!! It'll get in the way!!
Sanji: Just leave him...
Luffy: My turn!!
Rider: Wai -6
Rider: Guaaaahhh!!!
Luffy: Shishishishi!! / Ahh, this is the best! // Whoooooo!! / I'm flyiiiiiing!!
Duval: Everybody dive!!
Rider: Gotcha.
Luffy: glug
Chopper: Wha - ? // Luffy~~~~~~!!!
Brooke: Luffy-san?!!7
Luffy: Blechh!
Franky: Whaddaya think you're doing in the middle of a fight, huh?!!!
Luffy: Aahhh... I'b berry sorry... / cough
Franky: And why the hell did YOU guys jump in after him?!!!
Chopper: I'b berry sorry too!!!
Brooke: The sabe... goes for byself... sorry for all the trouble... cough
Nami: It's a pain for us, too, you know, when we have to fish out all three of you hammers!! Idiots!!
Luffy: Ughhh…
Nami: Stop giving us extra work!!!
Macro: Now's our chance!! Go get Caimie!!!
Others: Yeah!!!
Caimie: The Macro Crew!!
Pappagg: Oi, Hat-guy!! A little help over here?!
Macro: ?!!8
Hacchan: Nyuuuuu!! My cage and ropes are gone~~~~~~!! / Thank you, Roronoa~~! Ahh, you really are a great guy~~~~~!!!
Zoro: I was just following orders, dumbass...
Macro: Gahh!!! Hachi!!!
Caimie: Hacchin!!
Pappagg: Hachi~~~~!!
Hacchan: Why, you little punks... / Taking advantage when I couldn't move... // Beating the crap out of me...!!!
Tansui: Auau!! Don't think I've finished with you yet, Hachi... I'll land the finisher with my Fishman Karate!!!
Macro: Man, you are one unlucky guy!! Mohamohahahah! Still flappin' your mouth off like that, jeez... // You ain't seen nothing yet, pal!!
Gyaro: Come and get it! I've developed a new style of "Goldfish Fencing" just to slice you up... the waters will be stained with blood!9
Hacchan: TAKOYAKI PUUUUUUUUUNCH!!!
MacroCrew: We'll let you off this once~~~~~~~~~~~!!!
Caimie: Waaaaaaah! Thank goodness you're okay, Hacchin!!
Hacchan: Nyuuuuu... I'm real sorry, Caimie, Pappagg! I was trying to save you, but...
Pappagg: Don't you worry about it, Hachi~~~~~!! // ...Gaaaahh!! Look out~~~~~~!!!
Rider: Don't you go forgettin' now!! This is our base!!! // The ones in charge around here… / ...are the Flying Fish Riders!!!
Hacchan: Nyuuuu!!10
Hacchan: ?!! // Nyu!!!
Rider: Guahh!
Hacchan: ...............!! / Roronoa~~~~~~~~~~!!
Zoro: You need to watch yourself...
Caimie: Zoro-chi~n!!~!! // I'm really sorry for back that other time!!
Zoro: You guys leave this to us. // Get back, the lot of you!!
Hacchan: Thank you so, so much, Roronoa11
Hacchan: I cut you up pretty bad with my "Rokutouryuu" back then...
Zoro: You didn't even land a single hit!!!
Hacchan: Nyu? / Is that right?
Usopp: Here they come...
Riders: Guahh!
Usopp: Take this, assholes!!! // ...............!! // I got 'em~~~~~~!! Man, did you see that?!!
Chopper: Usopp, you're amazing!!
Usopp: Sorry, guys!!!
Duval: Anybody up for the "ZeroFight"? // I'll give ya a million in medical fees...12
Rider: I'll do it, Head!!! // Move it, move it, MOVE IT~~~~~~~~!!!
Chopper: There's a really big guy coming!! // And he's whirling around a massive club!! // Is this what they were talking about?! / They said something about "medical fees"...
Sanji: The guy's not even steering!! Don't tell me... a kamikaze charge...?! // A giant like that, at that speed... the ship won't hold. // Luffy, you take care of the fish.
Luffy: Right, gotcha.
Rider: Cower before me! With this size and speed... / ...the impact will be like a small meteor!
Sanji: Doesn't look like he's gonna budge!!! // Well, he's not the only one... // ...who packs a punch in the air!!
Luffy: suck13
Luffy: Nnnnngh!!!14
Luffy: Huaaahh!!!
Chopper: YOU TWO ARE SO COOOOOL!!!
Luffy: That's dinner for tonight!!
Robin: It really is rather large up close.
Riders: Guess they aren't gonna go down that easy... / ...This crew...
Usopp: Aahhh!!15
Usopp: !! // Come to think of it, there really are a ton of them flying about up there!! // Do we really have to take them all down?!
Luffy: Dammit~~~!! I wanna ride 'em~~~~~!! // Don't try thinking I've given up just because of what happened before!!
Nami: Oh, would you please give that up?!! I'm not saving you next time!!
Brooke: Alas and alack…!! What am I playing at...?!! My first battle as one of the Strawhat Pirates... / ...'Twould be a disgrace if I could not even lend a hand!!!
Luffy: Hey, what's up, Brooke?
Brooke: It is about time we reduced their numbers somewhat... // It isn't much, but... please observe carefully!!16
Brooke: Hup!!!
Luffy: Whoooa!
Chopper: What an amazing jump!
Rider: What's with the skeleton-mask-guy?!! // ...We'll make short work of you!
Brooke: Nemuriuta: Flan!!!
[TN: The "Nemuriuta" means "Lullaby". Lord knows on the "Flan", though. Can anybody think of anything musical that the katakana "furan" could represent? ~_~]17
Chopper: So… sleepy...
Nami: YOU GUYS TOO?!!
Brooke: Yohohoho... Music... // ...is power! // Excuse me!!!
Riders: Guaahhh!! We fell asleep!!!18
Riders: Why, that little... what the hell was that?!! / He must've pulled some kind of dirty little trick!!
Brooke: Yohoho! // It is no mere "trick"... // It is "Music"!!!
Luffy: Good going, Brooke!! / I'm gettin' pumped now!! Here I come!!
Nami: Ahh!! Wait - Luffy - not again - !!
Luffy: There... gotcha!! You'd better not dive down again, you hear?!! // Hey......? // ?! // THEY'RE ASLEEP~~~~~~~~~!!! // Oi, you guys! // WAKE UP~~~~!! // !!! // Aaaaagh!
Riders: Ahhh!! Why, that little... that's the Head's room!!19
Luffy: ......!! ......Owwwww... // ......Hm?
Duval: ..................
Luffy: ............Ah?!!
Duval: ...You saw. // .........
Luffy: Aaaaaaahhhhhh!!! You!!!
Duval: ......You... know me, yes...?!
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Duval has very delicate looking hands for someone whoes build is that large. I don't know if that can be used as a clue to their identity or just how the panel when he wraps his hands around the mask was drawn.
Thanks for the translation :)
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Delicate? He crushed a harpoon gun with one of those hands.
I thought Bellamy did the freaky bulge AND talked like an asshole. A shame the size doesn't match up.
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Isn't this the first time Sanji has repelled bullets/bombs with air from his kicks like Zeff did way back when? It didn't look like they hit his feet, at least.
Edit: Dunno how I missed those little starry things, which I guess are his foot coming into contact with them
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UC, Flan is a fencing move, I believe. Or it could just be a corruption of flank.
Thanks for a speedy scan, FH.
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Anybody notice that Hatori's crying in the cover page? So for those of you who though Duval was Hatori, too bad! XP
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@Twilight:
Anybody notice that Hatori's crying in the cover page? So for those of you who though Duval was Hatori, too bad! XP
Who the hell is Hatori anyway?
If you mean Kumadori, then he's not Duval because Duval is bald XD because he wears a wig. -
Hatori is Lucci's pidgeon… >_>
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@Twilight:
Anybody notice that Hatori's crying in the cover page? So for those of you who though Duval was Hatori, too bad! XP
Those aren't tears… Hattori's flying backwards.
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@Fire Fist:
Those aren't tears… Hattori's flying backwards.
Yeah that was his poop, he is jealous of Kaku because Kaku can fly too and he wants to drop a poop to Kaku.
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Hmm.wish Oda would give the riders names,instead of preparing a waste of valuable SBS time for it.
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Im pretty sure at this point, Garp has to be Duval.
They had a chapter with him in before this arc, Luffy was afraid of him, and probably more reasons that I dont feel like thinking of right now.
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@Fire Fist:
UC, Flan is a fencing move, I believe. Or it could just be a corruption of flank.
Thanks for a speedy scan, FH.
I don't know a move that is called Flan, but yup I think it's more the french word flanc (you don't pronunce the c), in fencing, it's the area situated under the armed arm…
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Great chapter,but anyone notice what looks like a small error on page nine?(Look at Hacchin's fists)
Really cant wait to see who Duval is now >.<
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anyone wanna help me scanlate?
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I love how Duval's den den mushi matches his helmet.
Stripes also seem to be in this season.
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If Luffy is the one Duval is after, by Luffy's reaction to him, it makes sense that his weapon would be a harpoon/spear gun as opposed to a normal gun.
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Im pretty sure at this point, Garp has to be Duval.
They had a chapter with him in before this arc, Luffy was afraid of him, and probably more reasons that I dont feel like thinking of right now.
Yeaaaaaaaah, no. As has been pointed out several times, Duval has a "hick" accent. Garp does not.
Duval runs a human trafficing ring. Garp is a Vice-Admiral.
Duval has been shown to be somewhere along the lines of a half-giant in size. Garp is normal in size.
So in short, Garp =/= Duval. We don't even know that Duval is after Luffy, or that Luffy is afraid of him. All I got was that Luffy was shocked.
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Question: Does anybody know if Duval's "You know me, yes?" at the end intended as a "So you DO know me" as in the grudge is directed at Luffy and Luffy knows precisely what it's about? or as in "You know me, too?" as in Luffy happens to know the guy, but is not necessarily the target of the grudge.
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That's a toughie. Might be classified under "Tune in next week, same OP time, same OP fansite!"
My personal opinion is that Luffy recognized him, but is not the target of the grudge. If Luffy were the man he's looking for, Duval probably would have looked alot angrier than he did.
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@_Meh_:
If Luffy were the man he's looking for, Duval probably would have looked alot angrier than he did.
I don't know if you've noticed, but Duval is wearing a helmet that covers his face. It's pretty hard to see, so I can see how you'd miss it though!
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Well if Luffy was Duval target then he might have instead said "now it time for my revenge" or something similar.
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Im pretty sure at this point, Garp has to be Duval.
They had a chapter with him in before this arc, Luffy was afraid of him, and probably more reasons that I dont feel like thinking of right now.
Even though he was shown like 3 chapters ago with Sengoku and Kuma? Odd.
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Anyone notice how Hachi's 3-arm punch has his topmost arm behind his head? It looks totally wrong.
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Also, I know this has been suggested, but I'm thinking perhaps "Dadan" = "Duval"