I don't think that Kaku is really a bad guy (just wanna say something). I think it would be cool if he joined the Straw Hats.
Best One Piece Villain?
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that was exactly what i was thinking CP9 fan. but i think that the best villian would bea tie between blackbeard and lucci.
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Best villain, well for me it would be Arlong and Teach, they're freaking evil! and I like Buggy too, but as a comedy villain, even tough I hope to see him back being stronger.
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no offense, but buggys a joke and arlongs just a giant swordfish.
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nd lucci iz a cat nd blackbeard iz a fat guy. C wot I did thar?
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@Really:
nd lucci iz a cat nd blackbeard iz a fat guy. C wot I did thar?
haha good answer XD
Well Buggy it's supposed to be a joke, he's the frustrated villain stereotype and well he does that pretty well, and I really think he will surprise us later,! he wasn't part of the Gol D. Roger crew for nothing
And well seriously, what does Arlong's appearance have to do with him being a good villain ?_? he did a great job being hateable in my opinion.
And another great villain was Spandam, even tough he's weak as hell, he's pretty hateable for evertyhing that he did and said. -
no offense, but buggys a joke and arlongs just a giant swordfish.
Arlong is fascinating because it provides an unusual perspective. If you were a gyojin, equal to or superior to humans in every way, would you too not feel that it was your right to take the world?
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It's a tie between Lucci and Crocodile for me as the best villain.
But my favorite would have to be Enel.
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no offense, but buggys a joke and arlongs just a giant swordfish.
my point exactly-though I think Arlong had a much too good design to be taken down so easily.
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Well, Arlong was back in the day when the fights were quick and not extremely dragged out. It doesn't really matter how fast Luffy beat him, but in terms of cruelty, plans, and being an ass, Arlong is still easily one of One Piece's best villans.
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Wait a minute,the Don Kireg fight,witch was BEFORE it wasnt draged out?
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The actual Don Kreig fight was only 1 episode though.
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Buggy is cool because he's basically the Usopp of Luffy's enemies. He's the guy nobody takes seriously but in reality he's extremely capable.
Spandam was just irritating.
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Hm, best…in terms of being ruthless, evil, etc, I'd have to say Arlong, Blackbeard or Crocodile.
But my favourites are Crocodile, Enel, Bellamy, Doflamingo, Perona and a few others.
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my favorite is Crocodile
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I'm going go with Odz. Not a villian in the same sense as say, Moria, but everything about that giant zombie is amazing. I think this series may have difficulty in surpassing him.
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I'm going go with ***. Not a villian in the same sense as say, *****, but everything about that ***** ****** is amazing. I think this series may have difficulty in surpassing him.
This is the anime-section. Those two haven't appeared in the anime yet.
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I love Buggy because he's so crazy. My second fave is Bon Clay (Kurie). He's just so much fun!
I hate Spandam; he's just too annoying.
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Dunno if I posted before.
Villian as yet unbattled-Akainu
Villian as already fought-Kuma
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Sir Crocodile was badass, not only his Shibunikai animal theme, but just him in general, was badass, and that fur coat was awesome
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Hacchi was too funny. I liked Crocodile too. He was so sinister and evil, as well as intelligent.
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I like Krieg. He was the best pirate out of the east blue for awhile. Also he had an awsome weapon. that weapon could change into a lot things.
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Either Kuro or Lucci. I loved those guys :D
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I think Crocodile, n' Kuma are overrated.
Crocodile has the "First Villian who defeated the Hero" popularity. Kuma has the "latest villian" popularity.
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No, Crocodile has that "one of the series' biggest villains", "mafia-stylin'", "unparalleled schemer", "evil-sombitch" popularities. Just to name a few.
Kuma just impressed everybody with raw badassery and a clever idea for a fruit power.
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I always compare One Piece villians to Dragonball villians.
Buggy = Pilaf
Crocodile= Frieza
Enel= Cell
Moria= Buu
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how.. does Moria = Buu..
or Crocodile = Frieza..?
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@Lobster:
how.. does Moria = Buu..
or Crocodile = Frieza..?
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Frieza was the first truly "powerful" villain in Dragonball, and a point in the story where Goku becomes stronger.
Crocodile is where Luffy surpassed a Shichibukai, used Gomu Gomu no Storm, and gained his 100,000,000 bounty.
For Moria= Buu, its because they are both weird looking. XD
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For Moria= Buu, its because they are both weird looking. XD
And Moria's shadow power allows him to keep coming back over ond over. Shadow's Asguard.
But back on topic the Best Villian so far just has to be Gol D. Roger and yes I know he's dead but he was the man who started the Great Age of Pirates which has caused turmoil worldwide for years on end and that is why I believe he is the best villian
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my fav would be Buggy
I like clown charactersKuma, Perona and Crocodile are awesome too
and Miss GoldenWeek 's so cute :3
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Lucci has got to be a best villan. I mean, he managed to beat up Luffy a few times.
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Perona
As much as I love Perona's Persona (giggle) I tend to believe she is more of a comical villian and is not the best OP villian ever as opposed to others cough Gol D. Roger cough cough
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Perona was actually pretty dangerous though. She was just the cutesy lolita version of Karasu from Yu Yu Hakusho.
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I think Moria's the best in a dramatic sense. His insane way of expressing his feelings is what makes him better than Crocodile in my oppinnion. Yeah, Crocodile could have been betrayed by his comrades for all that we know, but still, that's left to speculation, unlike Moria's who openly admited all his comrades/friends died.
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Ao kiji and Lucci and Blackbeard
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This will probably sound odd to some, but, while I personally think Croc is the best villian, I think the title should go to Spandam.
Why? well think about it, people are forgetting that Crocodile was'nt always the way he was, iirc he said to Luffy 'I was full of dreams like you before'(or something like that) before becoming a shichibukai(sp?) Basically, past experiences shaped him into who he was.
Director Spandam on the other hand, has always been a corrupt bastard-apart from having made Robin's life hell, and framing Franky (which ended up in Tom's death) he's willing to have an entire island destroyed. Not for money, for some sick sadistic desire, or to create a Utopian society(or to bolster his inflated ego), but to get a promotion. Now, he may be psysically weak, but he was the guy 'pulling the strings' or so to speak.
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Spandam was actually a mediocre villain
Nothing's more shameful than a villain who just got lucky in it's way to power. His kind of cruelty was pretty childish too (Wich is not bad because, you know, children are pretty cruel), but still, he was just one of those guys you know wouldn't have gotten far without someone else pulling the strings.
If anything, I like the idea of the Five Elder Stars as "villains" just because they really know what they do. You could even say they were the real villains of Ennies Lobby.
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Well, I sort of see him as the 'villian behind the villian' or someone willing to kill many to get something small. Maybe I'm reading too much into his character?
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Well, when you think about it..
Five Elder Stars > Spandam's Dad > Spandam > Lucci
You could see who's really behind the strings.
Anyway, I doubt Spandam would have been such a bitch if his father didn't told him about the order of destroying Ohara the Five Elder Stars gave him back when he was just a spoiled child.
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I always viewed Spandam as a puppet himself. A sad little puppet.
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@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
Spandam was actually a mediocre villain
Nothing's more shameful than a villain who just got lucky in it's way to power. His kind of cruelty was pretty childish too (Wich is not bad because, you know, children are pretty cruel), but still, he was just one of those guys you know wouldn't have gotten far without someone else pulling the strings.
If anything, I like the idea of the Five Elder Stars as "villains" just because they really know what they do. You could even say they were the real villains of Ennies Lobby.
We don't know if they are villiains yet they may be the good guys
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Moria and OZ for me…
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Spandam was more of a playground bully type of villain.
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Moria and that guy who hasn't appeared yet for me…
You can't mention that guy who hasn't appeared yet in the anime-forum, as it kinda spoils stuff for the people who only watch the anime. People got that message when mentioning Moria, Perona and the guy who sounds like Brook before they appeared in the anime, and I was told to use a spoiler-tag just for mentioning Moria's name once on the Vegapunk-forum, although I don't consider just names to be much of a spoiler.
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Crocodile…..........
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well for me it will be mihawk he took out zoro like he was nothing well that was the old days i wonder if zoro and mihawk will meet again man it will be a great fight.
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Hmm hmm I love most bad guys in One Piece.. I think my fav has to be Arlong though.. I think for a few reasons.. I didn't start to really enjoy One Piece till the Arlong arc, that was the real start of One Piece for me, got me really hooked and made the wait for it to get going worth it.
Other bad guys I like.. Wapol amuses me to no end and I adore Foxy, he's awesome, everything about him amuses me.. and I'm such a fangirl ha.
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Eneru is my favorite, but not the best. I think that Crocodile and Moria are the best followed by Arlong.
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Spandam was not a puppet himself.. He pulled all the strings in the Enies Lobby arc.. The only thing that people are misjudging is his clumsiness.. Which to me was quite funny.. Anyhow, Yes, he did receive his rank of CP5 due to his father most likely, but who is to say he got his position due to his father? That was never confirmed.. He is a good strategist if you hadn't noticed.. He is rather clumsy, but all villians usually have something like that to make them have a funny side to them.. I believe convincing the 'Idiot Five Elder Stars' to let him get Pluton, which he intended to take over the World Gov. with CP9 himself is quite similar to Crocodile's position on how he wanted Pluton to control a military nation - thus controlling the world. Their dream was essentially the same, however, the method was different.. His character may be seen as childish to some, but I don't think it was.. When someone is exposed to murder everyday of their life for years.. They goto a state of near-madness… They can't justify what is right or wrong themselves, that is what CP9 - Lucchi and Spandam have been ridden too.
They believed in their justice so much that they don't even realize that the basics behind their justice is corrupt.. We have seen this throughout the anime in different characters aswell. - Sakazuki (Admiral Aka Inu), aswell as Captain Nezumi and Axe-Hand Morgan... Power corrupts people.. And we, the audience have never seen Spandam without power.. Whether it be the Leader of CP5 or the Leader of CP9, he's always been corrupt.. But he gets his positions through strategy... He pulled off the stunt that put Tom in prison, which is probably the most notable event which caused his promotion... But anyway, as stated on Page 1, He is my favorite villian.. Arlong would be second followed by Crocodile.. They were good, but they always held part of themselves back... Its like they didn't show all of their character (Croc - Never thought he would be 'to lazy to escape', personally that made me think Croc as an idiot.. and Arlong, well... If breaking his own word through someone else is who he really is, then he kept it hidden for 8 years right?).. Spandam is quite different, we all knew that he was a cold bastard from day 1... And he lived up to his name until he was Clutched by Robin.. so, there you have it.... I can't wait to see what Moria is like..
PLEASE STOP SPOILING IN THE THREAD, IF YOU WANT TO POST MANGA RELATED STUFF, SPOILER TAG IT.. THANKS!
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Moria and Enel for me…Moria almost killed all the SHs like 2 times, took gear 2, 3 , 2+3, and nightmare luffy and kept standing. And his sarcasm and personality is badass