Does anyone know why I cant find the title page with the cover story in the zip?
Chapter 457 "MEAT~~~!!!" Discussion
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To me, it seems like the three main fighters are taken out of the picture so the lesser acknowledged crew members can show their stuff. Maybe Franky, or even Brooke will take out Gecko Moria.
Now that I think about it, Brooke would be the ideal one. It might releate to the promise he made to his own crew. Maybe if Gecko Moria were defeated, all the shadowed zombies would be purified. Then the Strawhats would be heros to the 896 poor wondering de-shadowed victims.
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@Skull:
Does anyone know why I cant find the title page with the cover story in the zip?
The colorspread replaces that unfortunately, so it is put on hold AGAIN. We'll have to wait for next week.
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Chopper says that when Absalom and Nami vanish, something else blocks out Nami's odor. It's probably foreshadowing Absalom's power.
Nice idea. Could pretty much be right on spot.
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To me it seemed something else just has a stronger smell so that Chopper's smelling sense won't be a plothole, but.. I might be wrong thinking over it.
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Maybe Absalom has light or energy manipulation fruit, with the fuwafuwa fruit he can, use the light around his body to reflect making him invisible and shoot laser?
But, it still doesn't explained the flower smell he leaves behind.
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I wonder if Absalom could manipulate gasses.
Like he can make an explosion with Hydrogen and Oxygen.
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The "monster" remembers sanji because he is the cook of the sh. that means, that he will remember all crew members. and that means, that he will never do anything against them, he might even follow ysopp s word ?
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I took it as Luffy's instinct. Didn't he also say that out of his sleep [not only in fillers]?
By Stephen, it's not that an agreement over forgetting the past might not work, but only that Cindry didn't get the chance to have an agreement like that.
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Maybe Chopper just smelled the General Zombie? Oh wait, he didn't smell the other zombies either x.x But I think that idea was nice.
Maybe Luffy's shadow still remembers his nakama… but I think it's also possbile that the shadow has only some minor memories from the last few hours. This could nicely involve Brooke...
Oz: "I remember that a nakama was going to leave me..."
sees Brooke
Oz: "ZOMG, my nakama! There you are!" falls on his knees... just daydreaming. I just wish that this "Shadow has memories"-case involves Brooke in a special way in the end
But I'm curious... one of the earlier scripts said that Moria shakes Luffy's shadow to make him nod/agree. But it doesn't looks like that.... the shadow simply nods. The question is: Why? o.o Luffy would never agree to forget his nakama... :wassat:
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Remember how all of the other zombies obey Moria. It must be something to do with his power over shadows. That is why when he says something to the shadow, they do as told. The only thing is that the zombie will have that characters likeness.
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Damn, I hate Absalom. The colorspread is awesome, but I think more characters should have been in it.
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Anyone for Oz completely ignoring Moria and asking Perona, Cindry, and Hogback to be his nakama for his crew?
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I'd rather he tries to eat all of em.
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Meh, maybe. To bad that the shadows can't be exposed to sunlight, because tell me who wouldn't love the SH's shadows racing them across the ocean, with a competition between Oz and Luffy to become Pirate King first.
I forgot, what happened to the Ussop vs. 4 armed gunman supporters? I highly doubt they would of made that panel of him earlier in the arc for no reason.
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This was my favorite chapter out of the last few. it actually seems like we will get to see the weak weak trio and the secondary front liners like franky and robin get some much needed screen time now.
i SERIOUSLY doubt any of them will defeat moria, that honor will always go to Luffy as the hero of the story,but every other opponent is up for grabs at this point. A chopper vs hogback fight, as well as uso vs abs would be schweeet. Anyone notice how braver usopp has become this chapter? I mean he's never gonna be a sanji or zoro,but he is standing up to fight without hesitation quite often now.
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yep oda did the character development ussop needed
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Not sure if all of this was said in the 8 pages before, but…
Abs seems to shoot out some sort of fireballs! Perhaps he had more upgrades done to himself in addition to the whole plastic surgery going on with his face. And due to him being able to turn other people invisible as well, it's very likely that that would be his possible devil's fruit ability. So, I think this - and the fact that Usopp already took the first shots at him - are the big signs that the two will clash in due time; also meaning that the monster trio will not take on the Three Mystery Men (or w/e).
I really want to see a fight whereas Usopp has to find out how to see through the invisibility in one way or another, while also getting to show the true potential of that Kabuto-weapon of his! ^______________^
By the way... I have no clue what people are talking about when they say that this chapter isn't good. I'm loving it! We're finally having a break from all the character introductions, while also getting some scraps of action going on toward the end. The build-up for Oz awakening was also rather badass, since I was constantly freaked out of the possibility that he'd start up by whacking the hell out of the whole bunch of main villains in this arc (which would have broken my heart! ><).
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I a huge fan of One Piece, but through the arcs, Oda has made Chopper look weaker and weaker, before when the crew 1st got Chopper, he would always transform to his human form and try to fight, now all he does is cry and run, and get beat up by zombies in his brain point form(forgot the name of that form), and Ussop has got this new weapon, and now he uses it, what happen to the dials, he should be trying to use a impact dial or something, I wish Oda would stop making Chopper and Ussop so weak!!!!!
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the enemies they face are on a whole different level than when they met chopper. usopp the only character becoming notciably MORE badass as the series goes on. everyone else is still about as tough as they were when joining.
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Nah, Usopp and Chopper can defeat them. Their problem is overall fear of the undead. Once their told the zombies' weakness is salt, though, they'll fight back.
I hope for Usopp to do some sort fo salt boshi into 900's mouth and take him out. If he defeats Moria that's even better, though I doubt it. It's probably going to be teamwork from the remaining members+Brook(after he defeats Ryuuma of course).
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Does anyone think Lola, that hippo, will save Nami? Or at least attack Absalom?
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Let's assume that Moria is a Weakling without his army. That's Ussop's chance of defeating a freakin Shichibukai all by himself.
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Yes, I think so, too.
You first have to make them look weak, then the fight back looks even more powerfull and heroic.
I hope so, at least.
Next chapters will be brook (the spoiler was really fake), then going back to the ship, then making a plan, and then, hopefully starting fast the ending&fighting chapters.
If the three really sleep this arc, then there is enough space for the weak ones to become stonger.
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What's with some of you and the whole "I'm cool cuz me bash teh weak trio lolz" thing?
Do you expect Usopp go SSJ and one-shot Thriller Bark with Soge-beam or Nami turning Wonder Woman? And since when you have to be uber l33t hax to be part of Straw Hat crew?
In this chapter Usopp was trying his best to protect Nami and Chopper was furious towards Hogback, they are growing. Sudden leap on badass meter and drastic change of personality =/= development.
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Do you expect Usopp go SSJ and one-shot Thriller Bark with Soge-beam or Nami turning Wonder Woman?
Well, some fans were expecting Usopp would destroy the Buster Call ships, for real. It's just starting again.
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Lol, no matter how often it gets proven that Usopps job is not to take down the strong guys, arc after arc people will expect for him to go completely against what he stands for and defeat guys that even Zoro and Sanji haven proven to be able to deal with yet.
I mean seriously, I´m not dissing Usopp (I mean that guy is one of my favorite Strawhats myself) but do you guys that consider yourselves Usopp fans even know what makes the character? I mean seriously he is a sniper and its good that way. Snipers, sharpshooters, gunslingers or whatever you want to call them simply don´t fight fights (not to mention win fights) in close combat.
He still isn´t a complete extraordinary sniper/sharpshooter so he should rather work on improving on that field before she should do anything in short range fighting (which I repeat, has nothing to do with a snipers way of fighting).
Oh yeah, before somebody asks, the field on which he´s a zero as a sniper is on hitting moving targets. Anybody who´s familiar with stories that invovle the threat of snipers/sharpshooters knows that there´s only one way to be safe from a sniper and thats hiding behind something. Moving pretty fast in order to avoid being hit is pretty much useless against a good sniper.
Usopp has so far only proven that he has an extremely good eye at long distances and that his precision is beyond great. But he actually just hits people/stuff that pretty much don´t make rash moves in order to avoid being hit. People who try to dodge his attacks (and the Marines on the Bridge of Hesitation surely didn´t do so) actually are always successful and this is where Usopps skills suck. A good shooter always logs onto his targets pretty good, no matter how much they move around and Usopp can´t do that.
I don´t expect him to hit guys like Rucchi while performing Soru but his eye sight should have been enough to at least hit some of the 200 Captains & Commanders. I mean it´s clear that Luffy has better fists then Usopp, it´s clear that Sanji has better feet then Usopp but being an extraordinary sniper his sight should be damn better then anyone elses on the crew. If he´s really a good sniper then his hand-eye coordination should make him able to log on and hit opponents that try to dodge his attacks. And he simply can´t get that done.
Sorry if that appears to be character bashing, because it´s not. I just wanted to explain where Usopps problems in his speciality lie. That´s not bashing because everyone has some (If Zoro wouldn´t have any then he´d already be a perfect swordsman and ready to take on Mihawk). And it makes more sense for Usopp to grow on that field before expecting him to do other stuff that has little to nothing to do with what makes the character special.
Now lets see if any of the Usopp fans even understand what I just explained here or if I´ll get an "OMGZ TEH IVATOS HAZ DISZSN´ ZE USOPP-SAMA-SAN-KAMI-SAMA" flame reply, which would indicate that nobody even bothered reading (not to mention understanding) what I said and already shot of their brains after being aware to two things 1)Ivotas makes negative statement and 2) Ivotas statement aimed at Usopp.
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@vlad:
yep oda did the character development ussop needed
That wont happen until he actually gets a fight, imroves from it, and uses Kabuto for something more than for looks. Everything I wanted to have happen last arc. :sad:
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Lol, no matter how often it gets proven that Usopps job is not to take down the strong guys, arc after arc people will expect for him to go completely against what he stands for and defeat guys that even Zoro and Sanji haven proven to be able to deal with yet.
I mean seriously, I´m not dissing Usopp (I mean that guy is one of my favorite Strawhats myself) but do you guys that consider yourselves Usopp fans even know what makes the character? I mean seriously he is a sniper and its good that way. Snipers, sharpshooters, gunslingers or whatever you want to call them simply don´t fight fights (not to mention win fights) in close combat.
He still isn´t a complete extraordinary sniper/sharpshooter so he should rather work on improving on that field before she should do anything in short range fighting (which I repeat, has nothing to do with a snipers way of fighting).
Oh yeah, before somebody asks, the field on which he´s a zero as a sniper is on hitting moving targets. Anybody who´s familiar with stories that invovle the threat of snipers/sharpshooters knows that there´s only one way to be safe from a sniper and thats hiding behind something. Moving pretty fast in order to avoid being hit is pretty much useless against a good sniper.
Usopp has so far only proven that he has an extremely good eye at long distances and that his precision is beyond great. But he actually just hits people/stuff that pretty much don´t make rash moves in order to avoid being hit. People who try to dodge his attacks (and the Marines on the Bridge of Hesitation surely didn´t do so) actually are always successful and this is where Usopps skills suck. A good shooter always logs onto his targets pretty good, no matter how much they move around and Usopp can´t do that.
I don´t expect him to hit guys like Rucchi while performing Soru but his eye sight should have been enough to at least hit some of the 200 Captains & Commanders. I mean it´s clear that Luffy has better fists then Usopp, it´s clear that Sanji has better feet then Usopp but being an extraordinary sniper his sight should be damn better then anyone elses on the crew. If he´s really a good sniper then his hand-eye coordination should make him able to log on and hit opponents that try to dodge his attacks. And he simply can´t get that done.
Sorry if that appears to be character bashing, because it´s not. I just wanted to explain where Usopps problems in his speciality lie. That´s not bashing because everyone has some (If Zoro wouldn´t have any then he´d already be a perfect swordsman and ready to take on Mihawk). And it makes more sense for Usopp to grow on that field before expecting him to do other stuff that has little to nothing to do with what makes the character special.
Now lets see if any of the Usopp fans even understand what I just explained here or if I´ll get an "OMGZ TEH IVATOS HAZ DISZSN´ ZE USOPP-SAMA-SAN-KAMI-SAMA" flame reply, which would indicate that nobody even bothered reading (not to mention understanding) what I said and already shot of their brains after being aware to two things 1)Ivotas makes negative statement and 2) Ivotas statement aimed at Usopp.
Im sorry, but if Nami can beat Kalifa legitimately (which she couldn't) in Odas mind then Usopp pissed off and utilizing all his skills could take Jyabura no problem using the same logic, regardless of what he says. Usopp showed more fighting potential against Luffy than Nami ever has. And he can hit guys that are moving, just the manga didn't show him taking down any of the captains. That doesn't mean he can't though. Usopp being able to hit Spandam from that far away makes "zomg he can't hit teh captains cus they r moving" reasoning completely illogical and retarded.
I just desperately want a scenario where hes stuck fighting against a really powerful enemy with no one to help him whatsoever (basically a fight to the death or die kind of thing), and they start pissing him off with one of those "your dreams and nakama are pathetic and your weak and will never amount to anything" speaches. Maybe not just a super close range fight, but something that involves him doing more than just sniping. I'd take a million more crappy Nami fights just for the chance to see that, and I wont ever be satisfied with his character until it happens. If it never does, then I will finiish this series still enjoying it and still thinking its one of the best shonen, if not the best ever but thinking Oda wasted his potential.
I know the point of his character is not to fight, and him not being a Luffy/Sanji/Zoro clone is part of what makes him so great. But to set him up with that badass new slingshot and all of his new abilities since Skypiea, tease the fans about him doing something and trying to become more brave and useful for years only to let us down, and then never let him use the new abilities for anything worthwhile is beyond ridiculous. I'm almost ready to think Oda is deliberatetely screwing with the people who like him.
Why the heck does Oda prefer to see Nami take the spotlight with a one trick pony baton that Usopp made for her more than having one of the most unique and coolest characters in the whole series live up to what so many people know hes capable of? I will never understand that aspect of him as a writer.
Also its not so much just his routine that he uses every arc that makes him awesome, but that he could have his character developed into so much more (not a Sanji/Zoro clone) if Oda just let it happen.
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@ Ivotas:
If I read your post right, you're assuming Usopp's skills in hitting moving targets suck, based on that one panel where he can't hit a few of the captains? Now isn't that a stretch? Sure, he has to improve, but saying he sucks in that regard is a bit too much, no? Against Luffy, sho wasn't serious but wasn't still either, he scored quite a bit IIRC.
P.S. : I ain't one of those Usopp fanboys, for the record…his attitude's pretty annoying lately. Sure, you needn't kick ass to be on the Strawhat crew..but their numbers are few, if you can't stick up for yourself, you're dead meat. They're not "a dime a dozen" pirates, they're going into the new world..no one on the crew can go on getting rescued all the time...(I'm not making specific accusations, just stating my opinion)
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Nami isn't weak at all anymore. She's a miniature Enel now, without the light-speed/logia advantages, and I assume having less attack power. And now she will be out of commission for some time.
Usopp and Chopper have never been able to deal with many targets at once in the way that all the other characters can. Never in all the manga have they been able to do that. That's why they're seen as worthless at the end besides of their fear of zombies. But as someone said before, as soon as they get knowledge of their weakness, I can see them as being able to take on many targets at once, for the first time (but even so, that still might not even happen). Doesn't say much about future opponents, though. And I have no clue what their main fights will be. Something good is bound to happen since they entirely have the focus this arc.
Maybe, for now, Usopp will team up with Franky (hah), and Chopper with Robin. All different team-up combinations have been done with these four characters before, so it's hard to predict who would team up if they ever have to split into 2 teams, but the last time those two team-ups I just mentioned occurred was when they weren't fighting any opponents.
What was with Chopper smelling flowers? Does Absolom have some kind of invisible-causing flower ability?
This is the first time I remember Robin calling out their real names. But maybe not.
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huh i've found out this type of flower: Rosa Chinensis virdiflora also none as the Green Rose
This type of roses has a peppery smell, and can camouflage itself,hiding its flowers like a chameleon : green flowers among green leaves. DUH.
Then maybe he can throw torns or exploading pepper or something lol.
Okay so it's not invisible but it can still camouflage XD. I really hope it's not an invisibility ability fruit.. come on… ODA has made a SOAP fruit. I truly think he can come up with something better than invisibility.
As for Usopp being strong or not, i wont discuss it as i think we've done this over and over again in last arc.. and the arc before... and the one before... XD
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@Skull:
That wont happen until he actually gets a fight, imroves from it, and uses Kabuto for something more than for looks. Everything I wanted to have happen last arc. :sad:
well i did not say that it is completed or smth that will be at the end
of OP or near elbaf, but not in the near futurewhat oda did in this arc is actually make usopp braver and
he picks up fights very often though he looks scared by the zombies,
but he fires back and gives them a fight at leastjust be patient like ivotas said, but it is good to see some development going on at the moment :))
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I think what usopp needs is a rival. Luffy is kind of enemy of the world so he knows he has to be strong in order to become Pirate King. Zoro also have Mihavk and he already knew that Mihavk is extremely strong. But Usopp's dream just doesn't have that kind of thing like " Becoming a Brave Warrior of the Sea". Okay it still means in order to become brave , he has to show some braveness against someone but still It's not like the others. And his job as a crew member is not to fight against enemies but to support the others. If he didn't make that Climathing , Nami couldn't be that effective. And I also think that he needs skill improvement cause his character isn't a chicken like before. You can't expect every character to fight in an Anime. Like krilin from db or that chad or sado I don't know , that big guy from bleach. Even if they become stronger and stronger , they can't break the limits sometime. Like if Usopp didn't pump Luffy at EL , maybe they would all be dead. So you shouldn't think of him as some fighting character I guess. And I like Usopp's character
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@Skull:
Im sorry, but if Nami can beat Kalifa legitimately (which she couldn't) in Odas mind then Usopp pissed off and utilizing all his skills could take Jyabura no problem using the same logic, regardless of what he says. Usopp showed more fighting potential against Luffy than Nami ever has. And he can hit guys that are moving, just the manga didn't show him taking down any of the captains. That doesn't mean he can't though. Usopp being able to hit Spandam from that far away makes "zomg he can't hit teh captains cus they r moving" reasoning completely illogical and retarded.
First of all, watch your language. Seriously, calling something illogical and retarded isn´t going to prove any constructive point other than a lack of proper manners. Secondly not all moving targets are equal. A target that walks in a straight line directly heading through a gate is pretty much predictable where it is going to be in a few seconds while a target that dodges in unpredictable directions is something completely different.
And yes, Spandam was walking directly straight ahead and the Marines around Spandam didn´t try to dodge anything all. Get the difference before you start making borderline offensive statements.
I know the point of his character is not to fight, and him not being a Luffy/Sanji/Zoro clone is part of what makes him so great. But to set him up with that badass new slingshot and all of his new abilities since Skypiea, tease the fans about him doing something and trying to become more brave and useful for years only to let us down, and then never let him use the new abilities for anything worthwhile is beyond ridiculous. I'm almost ready to think Oda is deliberatetely screwing with the people who like him.
I agree on that part, but I still think that he has to take on moving targets. Just try to think of any movie where the hero (weaponless or at least not armed with a range weapon) is fighting somebody with a gun. What does he do in the showdown? For the most part he is hiding behind something and thinking of a way how to take down his opponent who has the advantage. You most certainly wont see him running towards the villain jumping to the left and right in order to dodge the shots and then throwing a punch at him. That´s because whoever has the gun pretty much can aim good with it (especially if he/she is a skilled sniper/sharpshooter).
Or just think of war movies. If a sniper appears the soldiers are dead meat if they don´t have anything to hide behind. Dodging won´t do shit. A good sniper sees and reads the movement of the "prey". Every story that involves good snipers proves that.
Why the heck does Oda prefer to see Nami take the spotlight with a one trick pony baton that Usopp made for her more than having one of the most unique and coolest characters in the whole series live up to what so many people know hes capable of? I will never understand that aspect of him as a writer.
Because the Nami fights are shit. I´d rather see Nami (who is not figher at all) fight shitty fights then Usopp who as a sharpshooter is destined to take others down (just not the way everybody else does it).
Also its not so much just his routine that he uses every arc that makes him awesome, but that he could have his character developed into so much more (not a Sanji/Zoro clone) if Oda just let it happen.
I might repeat myself but I still think the sniping skills would be a good start. Just think of Yasopp or Van Auger. I´m sure that those guys could have sniped Jabra pretty easily even if he uses Soru. If Usopp wants to get in that league then he should be able to hit people that are extraordinally fast. A hit isn´t necessarily a win. Especially in the OP world were characters keep on fighting with many wounds. Actually that is the way Usopp should fight. Hit somebody but not owning instantly, that makes a snipers fight. And so far we didn´t really see much of that.
@Oboro:
If I read your post right, you're assuming Usopp's skills in hitting moving targets suck, based on that one panel where he can't hit a few of the captains? Now isn't that a stretch? Sure, he has to improve, but saying he sucks in that regard is a bit too much, no? Against Luffy, sho wasn't serious but wasn't still either, he scored quite a bit IIRC.
Actually I just used the Captains & Commanders as examples because they were nonames for the most part and therefore should be easier preys then a CP9er. But I can also use other examples. Jabra is pretty much clear is it? He didn´t hit him one time. I mean just as I said a few paragraphs above. Imagine a movie where a good fighter takes on a good shooter. He might not get killed but before he gets close to the shooter he surely will have one bullet in his shoulder or somewhere else.
Another example just happened in this very chapter. Usopp digs out Kabuto and aims for a standing Absalom (before he uses his ability). And what happens, Absalom dodges. They always dodge. It´s not even a moving target Usopp logged onto this time.
I mean seriously, you might consider it a stretch but so far Usopp hasn´t shown any sniping skill that make them lethal opponents in every other movie or book about snipers/sharpshooters/gunslingers. All the guys he hit so far weren´t dodging at all but walking in pretty much predictable directions. It´s just like when I´m sniping somebody in the GTA games. I pretty much know where my target will be in two seconds if it walks straight ahead. If it runs around in unpredictable directions I most definitely won´t snipe it that easily (if I hit it at all since I suck on that field).
I repeat, I´m not dissing Usopp. He´s one of my favorite Strawhats but he most definitely hasn´t shown to have that lethal part of a sniper that makes people fear them. He has without a doubt a good eye at long range. But that´s only one part of what makes a sniper. Another part is logging onto the prey so that it is only safe if it hides behind something. And I´m sorry to say it, but Usopp hasn´t shown to be a sniper like that yet. Just list examples of people he hit that really gave their all to dogde it. There will be no big guy among it.
And before somebody mentions the Luffy fight then be aware that a) he knew his oppenent pretty well and b) Luffy even went easy for some parts of that fight. That´s not something Usopp can expect from a real enemy. Furthermore even under these conditions Usopp didn´t hit Luffy when he really tried to dodge. He hit him when he was blended by light and when he used Gatling Gun (which makes him an easy target actually). But when he used the Shuriken attack Luffy pretty much dodged all of it. Some of them might have been close but they didn´t hit. And as I said countless times already a good sniper at least injures during such an attack. But Usopp didn´t do so.
He most definitely has to work on that field. Why not have a little shooting practice on board Sunny. If guys like Luffy, Zoro or Sanji would throw some stuff pretty away pretty fast it would make for a great practice of his skills.
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At least it looks like Robin may still face off against Perona - I know it's annoying when people guess fights, but I'm really hoping for Robin to be unaffected by the Negative ghosts. I just think that'd be pretty funny.
And it might just be the angles, but doesn't Cindry look really tall compared to Nami and Usopp in the very first panel?
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Have you all forgotten the amazing scene at the chapter's beginning?
No but I'm trying to forget it in all its resounding predictability.
I originally thought it would by hysterical if the thing woke up screaming for food (see post in last chapter thread) but not if he made half the chapter building up to it in the single-most predictable move he's done in the series so far.
Then for that to be followed by the three stooges was just absurd.
I'm not on the whole, "They're weak", hit, rather I think they're fucking idiots for sticking their head out of Kumacy and revealing their location to PEOPLE THAT COULD KILL THEM. What kind of stupidity was THAT? NONE of them except maybe Chopper are that ignorant and they know that, which is why they should have just stayed put.
OBVIOUSLY Oda has a plan and he intended events to unfold this way but I HATE when he progresses the story at the expense of dumbass moves by characters we know aren't stupid.
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Wow, has an Usopp and co. discussion started again? Well, let's try to make it better then last time. Usopp beating Jyabura was impractical in hindsight even with Nami beating Calipha. There's a limit–no matter how much jobbing a person can do, Calipha herself was also a little lame.
Here's some things we can expect of Usopp this arc. He won't defeat Absolom, that's a Sanji opponent. Probably not Moria either, but maybe he'll fight him for a bit like he's done to all the past villians--except for Lucci, since one shigan from that guy is crippling for a while.
The greatest thing we can expect from Usopp this arc is him disabling Oz. He has the tools for it, he only needs a salt star or something. Meanwhile, that mouth is a big target that's at a distance that Usopp has proven he can hit. So, that might happen. Really, it's either Usopp, Brooke (running fast), or Moria who will put down Oz.
As for the fights, I still think that Usopp will fight Hildon. Like Ivotas said before, that guy is a moving target. I think that jug on his back must have some ability.
As for Chopper, he just needs to get his act together. As soon as he realizes he could probably knock down an average zombie like nothing things will go better for him. That'll probably only happen in the climax though. Nami will probably be rescued they fight something.
But if possible, try not to go as crazy as last time.
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At least it looks like Robin may still face off against Perona - I know it's annoying when people guess fights, but I'm really hoping for Robin to be unaffected by the Negative ghosts. I just think that'd be pretty funny.
And it might just be the angles, but doesn't Cindry look really tall compared to Nami and Usopp in the very first panel?
Cindry seems to be the tallest in Thriller Bark next to Moria (And Oz, of course). I noticed that in quite a few images, she was the tallest. Of course, Brooke is huge himself (about the size of Kuzan, if not taller).
If Usopp does save the day, don't you think that would be accomplishing his dream a bit too early? Everyone would go "Good job Usopp, you're a man now!" and then he'd magically transform into some gunslinger Rambo dude. Yeah… and at that point, I realized the acid wore off.
But seriously, Usopp needs self-confidence, but not THAT much self confidence. If he defeats Absalom, that's more than enough to give him the boost he needs to continue.
As for Oz, I just had a brilliant idea: Nami, using the Perfect Climatact, causes it to rain salt all over Thriller Bark. That way, instead of having to run around purifying zombies, the problem is instantly solved. That would also explain Nami's kidnapping.
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How would Nami do that?
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Well I finally saw the chapter and it seems so…..uneventual.
Hope the next one will be better.
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How would Nami do that?
Well, this is One Piece, maybe she can create salty clouds… I dunno, maybe have some strange flashback about Usopp explaining the Perfect Climatact and then do a massive Cyclone Tempo?
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How would Nami do that?
With PIS ofcourse. Nami can beat opponents far above here level (Calipha, Doubfinger) with PIS, making it rain salt should be a piece of cake for her. Seriously doubt it'll happen tho.
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I could only see that happening if Nami somehow uses seawater, otherwise nu-uh.
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That actually sounds plausible now that you mention it Polygon. Although I'm hoping Oda will come up with something better tho.
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I'd like to argue about the character of Usopp but I actually don't really give a shit anymore.
Oh yeah, he lacks character development.
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The Griffin arc as the worst i nthe history of the character of Usopp.
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@Fire Fist:
Well, this is One Piece, maybe she can create salty clouds… I dunno, maybe have some strange flashback about Usopp explaining the Perfect Climatact and then do a massive Cyclone Tempo?
Any point on Thriller bark is only a few hundred metres from the ocean at most. I could see her creating a waterspout and using it to douse foes in seawater.
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I can see her cleavage.
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Seriously Ivotas I just think you got turned off of Usopps character because of Enies Lobby. His lack of action in one scene doesn't prove he can't hit moving targets and hes spent hundreds of chapters without sniping ever being his main character trait. It was hinted that it would become a big thing for him, sure. But hes proven he doesn't have to rely on sniping to fight.
I don't know what the heck Oda is doing with him but if he ever ends up getting the spotlight in a significant way again that changes his character I bet you'll be back. Until then I just wait anxiously for something to happen with him, like I always do. :pouty:
Also on an unrelated note I wouldn't prefer a Robin fight to the other available options (except Nami). The only time weve ever seen her fight (that I know of) was in Skypiea. All she did was wait until she absolutely had to fight that guy, and then immediately owned him with her Bloom thing. It seems to me shed be screwed against any enemy that can withstand that, and the ones that can't she'll take down immediately.