Why would Brook and Ao Kiji be related ?
By the way, Brook is talking in chapter 442 about his crew : was he the captain ??
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doesn't need to be the captain to refere to his old pals as his crew imo.
Emilio its already been discussed early in this thread and i think it was found groundless.
there is no reason why they should be related.
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Hey, think about that: what would happen if a DF user was to eat the Yomi Yomi fruit ? :-D
He would just be an eternal chain of explosions. Which would be somewhat handy in battle but impractical if one wishes to be near others or eat or wear clothes.
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So according to the new chapter, Brooke is a swordsman. He even uses the same technique as Ryuma against Teleran. For those convinced he won't join, this is some evidence, as Zoro is also a swordsman, but keep inmind that Brooke's fighting style is completely different from Zoro's, and he would fill a different "niche", the musician. I still think he will join, but the evidence is weighing slightly against him now.
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It does pose the question of whether Zoro will see him as an obstacle to his dream or not. Is Brook supposed to be a strong fighter? If he is, I very much doubt having two high tier swordsmen in the crew will be good, particularly because one of them dreams of being the best swordsman in the world. It'd be bound to dig rivalry, which we already have between Zoro and Sanji (Hey! Is that another repeated character trait?).
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Something tells me there is more to Brooke's fighting ability's.. I dont think he really will turn out to be a complete swordsman like Zoro.
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Care to be more precise?
Indeed, with Hogback praising Ryuuma's swordfighting abilities (which we now know are Brook's) and the fact that Brook carries as weapon as cool as a cane-sword (melted my heart a little, why oh why did you have to be a Sanji-rehash, Brook?), I can't see Brook being anything but a swordsman.
Sure, he was supposed to have a more music-themed fighting style, but doesn't his attack reference humming?
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Its a bit hard to explain..
But maybe the sword could is used for something else that it may seem.. Maybe it does something with sound or something.. But we didnt see to much of his skills yet.. for all we know he uses different weapons for his attacks. And is a sword just one part.
And what about the demon energy Zoro has.. do you think Brooke will have it to then?
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Brooke's style seems really different from Zoro's so far (though we've barely seen it). Like how he had his sword out the whole time until the last panel of that chapter… which was when the attack occurred. And personally, I like to see Brooke imitate the Chinese sword fighting stuff... his high jumps could even reflect all those Chinese wire-fu movies.
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I want him to be like the insanely quick person in the crew. Like he has violin strings that can cut through people. He runs super quick and then just wraps someone in it, cutting them to shreds. Also, his sword could be useful with his quickness.
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Well, despite all the "Swordsman" complaints, Brooke could actually still work out. Think about it, there are 100s of swordsmen in the sea. Hell (as much as I loathe saying this) Luffy, Sanji, Chopper, and Franky are all the same type of fighter–hand-to-hand combat. They just have differences that make them unique.
If Brooke is joining, Oda could be doing the same thing with swordsmen. Maybe, though I still hope it's different. Maybe Brooke is like Shinomori Aoshi from Ruroni Kenshin, a fighter that uses blades and physical attacks in conjunction with each other.
Edit: On that note, it'd be great to see a "jack of all trades" fighter. By it's very nature it would be full of possibilities. Maybe Brooke beat one guy with a sword technique, but uses a kick on the next one.
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Brooke doesn't strike me so much as a swordsman, so much as a guy who simply uses a sword.
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By the way, guys, notice that Brooke cut the spider from the top.
In all of Zoro's attacks, he goes from the sides or below. He has ones that go from the top, yes, but they cut all the way through the body. Like the Sea Train incident.
Brooke might be using a whole new style here. Might be mixed with melodies and songs along the way. Bink's sake.. -
a question, did ryuma hum when he used his verision of cant the name (brook´s attack)?
no lessOR I'm too lazy and uninspired to make a proper sig
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I'm sorry I didn't read this thread all the way through, so i don't know if this has been mentioned anywhere else:
Did anyone notice that Brook's sword kinda looks like Urahara's Benihime (Bleach)?
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a question, did ryuma hum when he used his verision of cant the name (brook´s attack)?
think hogback mentioned he did but i cant read the soundeffects….
no did not notice that about the sword. havent really seen a good pic of the sword yet.
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So, I wrote this theory in the chapter-discussion, but I want to post it here, too. I was wondering why Brooke's behaviour changed that much, first he was a funny, easily-scared guy, but now, he is a calm, badass fighter.
Be aware! Crazy theory ahead!
Brooke is schizophrenic! XD This could explain why his behaviour changed that much… and just think about: He was alone all the time, I heard some people became schizophrenic when they are alone... (Yay, Brooke was talking to himself all the time! XD) Or he was already schizophrenic when he died, so the enemy was able to kill this great swordsman, because he was fighting against "Happy Brookie-Brooke". And maybe Happy-Brooke has a different fighting-style than Badass-Brooke.
... and for the Pro-Brookes (for example me!): Schizophrenia could be a completely new character trait in the strawhat crew
(I'm looking for pro-Brooke arguments everywhere! XD)
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Going along with Hiso's theory, what if Bink is Brooke's other persona?
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Most of the strawhats are goofy, then serious when they have to fight. My other guess is that Brooke knew his attacks wouldn't work on the ghost, so he didn't fight it.
And I got to get a sword-cane for my Brooke cosplay.
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sorry just had to post to remove that evul number…
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Oh snap, that post I just made is #666. I'm a happy man.
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… since mine was 667 wasnt yours 665? or were you counting the Original Post too?
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I'm just counting whats on the page. It say's #666, so I'm still a happy man.
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@Fire Fist:
http://bladedweapons.tripod.com/images/shikomizue1.jpg
This is called a Shikomizue.
Any questions?
before it gets lost in the current thread discussion.
oooh oooh! i know why the sword is humming!
Brooks sword has "eaten" the laser DF…
its a LIGHTSABER! woooohm woohm!
(sorry i just had too with all the discussions about his weapon =P)
just because i think its funny ^^
@raj:
Brook using a sword in one panel doesn't invalidate Zoro's existence.
Hooray for two some odd weeks of debating the aforementioned problem.
Because its the truth.
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I still say less likely he'll become a nakama, though. I'm actually rather saddened by it.
And personally, (random addition, I know) I think the 'panties' thing will only come up with new faces. >>; I have no idea what made me say that, though. Same with the rudeness. I think sidden changes in behavior might happen, but it won't be extreme (if he does join the crew). Coz that would just get freaking annoying after a while. -_-+
And, that shikomizue makes me jump up in my chair and fangirl squee "Coool!!!!! XD!!" That it does.
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If Brooke is a swordsman then that means he can´t join the strawhats because there can´t be two sword users in the same group
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If Brooke is a swordsman then that means he can´t join the strawhats because there can´t be two sword users in the same group
That aint true their could be 5000 sword uses in a group for all Oda cares. just because Zoro and Brook use means nothing. If that were the case it would mean Franky and Chopper can't be in the same group since they both use fists. Of course chopper and Franky have totally different styles but that could be said for Zoro and Brook as well
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Swords are lame.
But Brooke is so awesome.
I am dissappointed in Oda.
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Brooke's power seems related to sound vibrations and speed. His power has not yet been explained. And I firmely believe we shouldn't say his power is a clone of Zoro's until we have all the facts.
Oh well, at least we will finally get some more Brooke goodness this week…. I think. Right?
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PtR, whether it's sound-based or not is not the point. Brook is a swordsman because he uses a sword, however creatively, and if he joins he has the potential to steal Zoro's lightspot. We already had people saying it would be cool to see Brook cut ships in half. Zoro can also do ridiculous things with swords, let's not forget that the "Breath of All Things" is, in a way, sound-based (Zoro says that he hears it).
And don't dismiss the fact that Brook's zombie version is a swordsman and wields a perfectly normal katana. Zombies have the same fighting style as their shadow-donors.
There's also the fact that "sound" is nothing other than variations in air pressure that our ears can pick up. Zoro has already shown that he can compress air to form blades. Using sound-based attacks means using compressed air to deal damage.
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whether it's sound-based or not is not the point
Oh, but it is. What if he can control sound with other objects as well?
The thing is, until Oda himself says so, I'm not calling him a swordsman. If using a sword automatically makes you a swordsman, then we must all agree that Chopper briefly stole Zoro's main role in the W7 arc.
Your point about air pressure is like saying that Chopper's and Sanji's fighting styles are the same because a hoof to the face and a foot to the face have little difference.
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If Brooke is a swordsman then that means he can´t join the strawhats because there can´t be two sword users in the same group
No it doesn't. That means absolutely nothing. That's like saying "Nico Robin can't join group because there already is a woman in the group." And that happened didn't it? I doubt if Brook used 3 sword style, and wanted to defeat Mihawk he would join the crew. But come on, they both have different styles and completely different ambitions (although Brook's has been revealed). So, instead of spitting out false and incoherent theories… think about it. :getlost:
Moving on : It would be nice to see Brook as a jack of all trades in fighting, but a Musician as the Nakama. He could be a swordsman who manipulates sound, but also a crazy acrobatic-like person since he is all light. It would be pretty awesome to see Brook with his umbrella-sword just hopping around insanely cutting everything in sight, similar to Captain Kuro's "Cat out of the Bag" technique. That would be so kickass. I just hope Oda doesn't screw this up and make some fatass like Hildon join the crew.
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@Pass:
Oh, but it is. What if he can control sound with other objects as well?
The thing is, until Oda himself says so, I'm not calling him a swordsman. If using a sword automatically makes you a swordsman, then we must all agree that Chopper briefly stole Zoro's main role in the W7 arc.
Your point about air pressure is like saying that Chopper's and Sanji's fighting styles are the same because a hoof to the face and a foot to the face have little difference.
Try to bring your arguments into a correct scale. Someone touching a sword doesn't make them a swordsman, Nami and Sanji aren't gunners, yet we've seen guns in their hands. Carrying a sword with you at all times, using it in combat, using it for a named technique and having a zombie-clone who's a swordsman does make you a swordsman.
The thing is, you're making up stuff that might happen or might not happen while I'm working with what we've seen so far. And seriously, what's the need for a sound-based explanation when a straightforward sword-cut could have had the same effect? If Zoro was able to learn how to cut steel while not cutting flesh, I bet he could master the delayed cut.
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is it just me that thinks learning some other characters named attack is weak?
seriously Zoro learning arrow notch strike would kill him as a character imo.
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It is weak. Zoro apparently so far has mastered techniques that he has created on his own. If he learned it from other people it would show that he can't become the best swordsman through strong will. He gets stronger by beating other swordsmen. Although, it would be pretty sweet if after everyone Zoro beat he gains that person's strongest technique. Not by a devil fruit or anything but just by training with that technique.
Like Zoro learning a technique similar to that Spinning thing Mr. 1 did. Or some of Kaku's techniques. I don't know. Just some crazy rambling. -
The thing is, you're making up stuff that might happen or might not happen
That's what speculation is. At this point, that's all we can do.
while I'm working with what we've seen so far.
Well, I personally don't put a 1000 piece puzzle together with only 950 pieces and think I have the entire thing complete.
So if you have a named technique with a single combat weapon, that weapon must be your entire arrsenal? I remember it being differently with Don Kreig. Hell, even Crocodile had a few moves that didn't involve sand.
And who said Brooke and Ryuuma share each and every move? Who's to say Brooke doesn't have any non sword techniques on him? That's my speculation. Don't put words in my mouth and say I'm making up information.
And seriously, what's the need for a sound-based explanation when a straightforward sword-cut could have had the same effect?
'Cause he may have some non sword techniques on him, that's why.
It was a display of his power, not an entire showcase. I'm not going to say all his techniques are sword based on what little panel. It's a cane with a built-in blade, not one of the 21 or whatever strongest swords in the world. I've seen those canes in real life. They're often used by the elderly for defensive purposes, not to fight.
Which brings me to another thought. Maybe that cane is a hint to Brooke's age…. perhaps he's elderly; in his 80s!
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I had a dream last night where Brooke spoke! He sounded like Bon Clay, but significantly less nasally and much more high-pitched.
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If you look at the styles, seriously, they're different, just as a by-the-way.
Even if Brook's cane-sword is his weapon, that in no way violates him as a crew member. Zoro is a traditional swordsman: Katana, training and all… that's the way he is.With Brook, I don't think it is that way. He's not centered on combat, like Zoro. To me his personality/fighting style would be more like: "Yohohoho... .... now that wasn't nice. So you really want to fight me...? run around and cut up the enemy, then walk away Yohohoho!" o.O; As opposed to Zoro, who is looking for a fight (against a worthy adversary, of course)
...I know I came up with the music/sound theory, but I don't see that happening now that I've seen him attack. Brook isn't an Usopp-type. He won't invent off-the-wall attacks like Usopp Hammer and Usopp Noise. He just won't. He'l bust your kneecaps with his cane, if it's necessary, or slice you up, but other than that, really, he's not gonna have any other kinds of attacks. (Usopp is the only Straw Hat that does (bar Franky, coz it's his body in any case. Just...fancy additions to his body))
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I mostly wanted to post to show folks my signature. Made it today after taking a heavy dosage of Jimi Hendrix
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@Pass:
I had a dream last night where Brooke spoke! He sounded like Bon Clay, but significantly less nasally and much more high-pitched.
haha nice, i imagine his voice is going to be something like that too. Somewhere along the lines of Mr. 7 from Baroque Works.
Also what pic is your sig from? I mean yeah i know its when brooke introduces himself, but where can i find the colored full image? It looks incredible.
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haha nice, i imagine his voice is going to be something like that too. Somewhere along the lines of Mr. 7 from Baroque Works.
Also what pic is your sig from? I mean yeah i know its when brooke introduces himself, but where can i find the colored full image? It looks incredible.
I never heard Mr. 7's voice before.
You can find it on deviantart
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/47907621/edit-
I came up with a better explanation for how Brooke sounded in my dream. Imagine Dubsop but not screechy, actually bearable, and somewhat mellow. -
I imagine Brooke sounding a little bit like an old man (hmm…kinda hard to explain, I guess).
For some reason, also, I think Brooke (before death) looked...stupid. For some reason, I keep getting Mr. 11 vibes from him O .o;
As for his age (before death), I'd say 38.
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I agree that Brook is 38 or younger and he should have a high voice
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Norio Wakamoto would make the perfect Brook.
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oh wow, i can actually see that working really well
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DRASTICALLY different from what I imagined him with, but I think it could work if Wakamoto lowered a teeny-tiny bit. Of couse, I'd need a yohohohohoho to seal the deal.
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yeah if the "yohoho" sound isnt just perfect, the whole thing would be ruined
though i doubt thats gonna happen, i have no beefs with the voice actors of OP in any way
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@Bleak:
Norio Wakamoto would make the perfect Brook.
Actually, that's kinda what I had imagined. We'll just have to wait and see (I don't anyone would've thought that Kazuki Yao would have been Franky's voice before the casting began)
