Oh yeah, I know Greg was wondering about this too:
Is there an official name for Chopper's monster form? Or is all there is concerning it a little mock newstory like "omg monster spotted at Enies Lobby"
One Piece: Yellow Discussion Thread
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the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit
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fangasms
I can't wait to get my copy now. Uh… yeah.
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@Cap'n:
He wasn't. He's right next to Hina.
He is? Oh my god, I´m really getting old.
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http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12073up0787123526lobs2.jpg
What does that parting line exactly show? ö_Ö
I can only read Kana but my Japanese is quite bad - so I can read but don't get the meaning XDDoes it say something like:
persons of that rank (or higher) do have command of other soldiers?Or what does it show? ö_Ö
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If that's vaguely what it means, then I think that means that people above the dotted line have the authority to be a commanding officer.
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Someone translate Oda's message pleeeease!
Sure thing.
The intro to SPACE TIME says:
@Eiichiro:Uh, hi there. Apparently "One Piece YELLOW" is coming out, so my editor tells me, "do 4 pages!" He said it nicely enough, but didn't he add one more page than before? This one will take some time… Well, I guess I'll draw it...
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Heres a quick scan i put together of the chart. who is this raines (sp?) guy, i dont remember him either.
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Heres a quick scan i put together of the chart. who is this raines (sp?) guy, i dont remember him either.
Thx dude^^
He was in Vol 5, page 179 (that is what my European Version of BLUE says), Subordinate of Fullbody -
does it give the names of the two CP9 guys are in Robin's flashback?
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Any chance that there might be names for Spandains two CP9ers who were with him?
Good point! No not that I've found. Yeah, that's very disappointing.
And yep, while we´re at it any chance that the Galley-La workers from the chapter 323 spread got the same treatment?
NO!!!!! This surprised and disappointed me as well!!! I was shocked considering the lengths he went to, to draw them the same individuals each time.
Rainbow is coming out May 1st.
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Does it says anything new about the CP? And what happened to Spandine?
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Hey Greg, can you give us some substance? can you let it flow?:happy:
Come on Dragonball God, anything concerning the Emperors (Shanks) anything relating to their power/skill set?
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Space Time
Page 1
Narr: On the moon…
Woman: The Moon is in the sights of most vile villains!! Luffytarou, please go in search of the hero, defender of justice, Mugiwaraman!
[Queen of the Moon: Robiya Hime]
*For an explanation of the bamboo and her traditional attire despite being on the moon, please refer to the Legend of Kaguya Hime here http://www.thegrandline.com/pandaman.html
Man: Yeah 'kay. I'll, just mosey on along.
[Lunar Special Defense Force Soldier: Luffytarou]
Robiya: No, please hurry -_-;
Narr: But Luffytarou has a secret, which only you can know!
Luffytarou's true form is actually…!!! The Super Space Hero of Justice 'Mugiwaraman'!!
Explanation:
So You Want to Know About Mugiwaraman:
To reveal his true form would go againt the law of his kind. They're super strong and big.
If he mistakenly goes over 5 minutes of transformation, his body will be unable to consume his favorite food, meat, for the rest of his life. (He'll get Glycosuria). And also, he's strong and big.
[Blatant Ultraman rip for those of you not up on ancient Japanese cheese hero programs]
Page 2
Evil Man1: Fufufu… And now, the Universal Association of Darkness' Pact reaches it's completion
[Martian Martial Artist of Darkness: Sanvader]
Note Likely Darth Vader rip
Evil Man2: Indeed! We have but one goal! An invasion of the moon!!!
[Venusian Swordsman of Darkness: Zorodadener]
Note Probably a rip from some SF series/filmSanvader: Behold!! My robot's sniping accuracy speed is the greatest in all of space!!
[Big Space Robot: Usoshakeen]
Note Probably a rip from some SF series/filmUsoshakeen: Hey turd, how about I make you my toadie.
[Big Space Robot: Frangashahn]
Note Probably a rip from some SF series/filmFrangashahn: How about I make you my lil' bro you jerk-head. Stupid jerk-head.
Usoshakeen & Frangashahn: Man, this guy thinks he's some kinda punk
Zorodadener: Thanks to the latest in robot technology, I can proudly boast that MY robot is the strongest in all of space!!
Afro Being: The fiends!
Sanvader: Who's there!?
[Lunar Special Defense Force Spy: Choppasmith]
Note Likely he's supposed to be like Agent Smith which one could take as Matrix but is probably Will 'Smith' from MIBSanvader: That was close! He heard us talking!
Zorodadener: Waste 'im.
Choppasmith: I'll call for rescue!
Sanvader: Gads!! He's called someone!
Page 3
Beacon: piiiiii piiii
Luffytarou: Hm? The SOS Signal! Someone's calling for help!!
Female Alien: Would you listen to this, it's just terrible.
[Sexy Alien Humanoid: Namitanian]
Note The planet is Namitan (excessively cute way of saying 'Nami chan') and she's named as Namitan Seijin, meaning 'Of the Planet Namitan' so I picked a generic title as NamitanianNamitanian: Heeey, are you listening?
Luffytarou: Oh…there were two SOS signals. Whatever, you were first so I'll save you first.
Namitanian: An octopus-shaped asteroid looks like it's going to crash into Planet Namitan.
Luffy: GYAAA What are you tryin' to do, kill me too?? Just wait a sec I'll call Mugiwaraman.
Narr: Luffytarou transformed into Mugiwaraman!!
Mugiwaraman: JAWA pikapika~~ Mugi Mugi no Balloon!!
Namitanian: Thank you Mugiwaraman!!
Luffytarou: See ya! I've gotta go to the next SOS.
Namitanian: That octopus-shaped asteroid was so frightening.
Page 4
Luffytarou: Chopasmith!! What's wrong?
Chopersmith: It's an urgent state of affairs Luffytarou!! Sanvader and Zorodadener are going to invade the moon!! Robiya Hime is in danger!! Please find Mugiwaraman!! If only we had...Mugiwaraman...!!
Luffytarou: Damnit! It's because I was moseying along!! Rest assured Chopasmith, the Moon will be saved!!!
Narr: Because Luffytarou sped through space towards the Moon for more than 5 minutes as Mugiwaraman he contracted 'Cant-eat-meat-for-the-rest-of-my-life-itis'!! But of course, that's the true sign of a Hero!!
Mugiwaraman: Think that's gonna stop me!?
Mugiwaraman: STOP, Universal Organization of Darkness!! I won't let you have the Moon! Your opponent is ME!!
Usoshakeen & Frangashahn: Mugiwaraman!! But..there's no reason to fight!!
Mugiwaraman: What!?
Group: Cause there ain't no moon!!!
Everyone: THIS IS HOPELEEEEEEEESS!!!
How to Speak Proper Spacese
Stick out your lower jaw and practice speaking
Note Throughout the entire thing characters are speaking with their jaws stuck out and swinging their hands under their mouth all the while saying " Ai~n Ai~n ". This is a staple gag of legendary Japanese comedian Ken Shimura's character, Baka Tono (Lord Idiot). I discuss this topic in some detail at some point during this interview from Blue http://www.thegrandline.com/odateach.html
The closing line is also a famous line from Shimura's fellow The Drifters member Ikariya Chosuke who used it to close their popular sketch comedy show.
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Thanks Greg and everyone for all the info and scans.
What surprised me is Fullbody's new design. He looks a lot more badass.
And Whitebeard's ship:Moby Dick…hahaha. It perfect for him.
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As far as the inset on the Marine flowchart goes, the first two kanji are Kaigun/Navy. The last one is, if my eyes don't fail me, Division. The first looks like… Branch?
Branch Division? Is that right?
So those three are simply representatives of the Navy outside the Grand Line.
Good point! No not that I've found.
What about any other the Cipher Pol figures? Like the members of CP5 that came to Water 7 with Spandam or anybody else that we're not likely to ever see again? Or any Enies Lobby information that we weren't already aware of? Like names for the Jurors or Princess' real name?
Is there anything in there at all about the World Government for that matter? I don't expect it to name the Gorosei or anything, but do we get a name for the Judge that oversaw Tom's trial?
He was a fairly important character and probably the single best example of a World Government official who doesn't seem to be malicious, uncaring, incompetent, or massively corrupt.
Yeah, that's very disappointing.
It's kind of odd who they include and who they skip. For instance, the Navy list omits the guys in the Mariejoa meeting that DoFlamingo was toying with; presumably highly ranked people with at least as much dialogue as other Marines who have been named before in other sources.
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What about any other the Cipher Pol figures? Like the members of CP5 that came to Water 7 with Spandam or anybody else that we're not likely to ever see again? Or any Enies Lobby information that we weren't already aware of? Like names for the Jurors or Princess' real name?
Is there anything in there at all about the World Government for that matter? I don't expect it to name the Gorosei or anything, but do we get a name for the Judge that oversaw Tom's trial?
He was a fairly important character and probably the single best example of a World Government official who doesn't seem to be malicious, uncaring, or massive corrupt.
No, this book does not deal with characters like Blue did.
It has a section called World Government that deals with characters in groups. They are WG itself, CP Groups, Shichibukai and Marines. Next is a section on Pirates (which neglects to mention bounties) and then a section called Citizens which deals with groups like Ener and his loonies, Skypieans, Galley-La, Franky Family, Nomads, Resistance Army etc. Then it goes directly into the rather lengthy Material Guide.
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By the looks of the pix, I bet they're going to make an omake of it soon!
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Oh fuck nuts. I almost threw this out too.
The insert that sera scanned is ridiculously interesting.
Oda says that recently the owner of a pub he often went to passed away. Although this doesn't seem important to us, actually, it really is. That's because that man was the model for none other than White Beard.
The following line from White Beard's first appearance was actually word for word a phrase the owner often said to customers:
Whitebeard:….
I'M NOT TALKING TO ANY SNOT-NOSED AIRHEADS.Not only that, but the old man often sat down in the store with medical equipment hooked up to his nose and drank calling sake 'medicine' while telling war stories.
He said the old man knew about his place in the series and was very happy.
Oda also says there are very few people he models his characters on this closely.
Well how 'bout that?
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that is pretty interesting…
I'M NOT TALKING TO ANY SNOT-NOSED AIRHEADS.lol i want to see the customer faces after hearing that
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Wow…That's really sad.... may the Pub owner RIP.
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Oh fuck nuts. I almost threw this out too.
The insert that sera scanned is ridiculously interesting.
Oda says that recently the owner of a pub he often went to passed away. Although this doesn't seem important to us, actually, it really is. That's because that man was the model for none other than White Beard.
The following line from White Beard's first appearance was actually word for word a phrase the owner often said to customers:
Not only that, but the old man often sat down in the store with medical equipment hooked up to his nose and drank calling sake 'medicine' while telling war stories.
He said the old man knew about his place in the series and was very happy.
Oda also says there are very few people he models his characters on this closely.
Well how 'bout that?
Why are you not answering my question regreding Spandine? Is he's not listed in the yellow?
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Why are you not answering my question regreding Spandine?
Probably because I didn't read them or was asleep while you posted.
Yes. His name is listed with a small picture on page 144. That's about it. If there was anything terribly interesting I would have posted it.
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Okay, thanks anyway.
(16 characters)
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Whoa. Koby and Helmeppo in the sergeant ranks? I thought they were still pettyofficers.
Thanks to all who posted anything, translated anything, or provided us with information.
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If someone has photoshop and free time, feel free to use my trans of Space Time for a scanlation. I'm going to go outside and do…something I guess ^o^
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Wow, I would loved to have known that pub owner. He sounds like a hella a character.
May he R.I.P. and his image continue to live on in One Piece and Oda's heart.
EDIT: I'll do a scanlation of Space Time now. Does anyone care to do good scans or should I just use the ones which were posted?
EDIT2: Meh, I'll just use these.
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since they named the ships, did they miss Mihawk's little ship?
God makes the food.. and the devil makes the spices…Looks like it was too hot for you - Sanji
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Wow, that acutally makes me like Whitebeard even more.
Oh Greg, if you see this, I asked this before but I guess it got overlooked (I can't blame you): Did they ever give an official "name" for Chopper's monster form(Monster Chopper, Berserker Chopper), or was all there was of it that mock newstory that I'm assuming is just like "omg monster spotted at ENIES ROBBY lol hur"
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I got one and a half pages done of the scanlation, but I got a splitting headache so I'm gonna lay down for a few minutes before continuing.
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Oh Greg, if you see this, I asked this before but I guess it got overlooked (I can't blame you): Did they ever give an official "name" for Chopper's monster form(Monster Chopper, Berserker Chopper), or was all there was of it that mock newstory that I'm assuming is just like "omg monster spotted at ENIES ROBBY lol hur"
Hmmm, strangely enough I replied to your original question but it seems to have never registered. Such is the Internet.
Okay, yet another thing that let me down was the total lack of a clear description. It was indeed much how you described. It says
Kaibutuor monster in big letters but again, its as if written by a third party that doesnt know better. This is further complicated by it being described multiple times asDF power gone berserk.Let the confusion continue.
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Let's just call it "Monster Berserker" and just skip on the Chopper. XD
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….I'd pay to see Mihawk ride a coffin. Jack Sparrow wasted a lot of potential with that.
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Well, you know his ship is indeed coffin-shaped when seen from above right?
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Wow, thanks Greg.
Too bad about the pub owner, I hope this didn't inspire Oda to kill Whitebeard off before his time.
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Nah, I bet it inspires Oda to make Whitebeard kick ass even more.
Any more details on the Shichibukai concerning the individuals Greg ?
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I think they are mysterious as usual. Chances are he finished the book months ago when the early phases of Thriller Bark were still being planned. It goes to publishing from there so Gecko Moria wouldn't be listed at all. Neither would anything else. Details can change moments before completion. I doubt any new revelatons since the Luffy vs Lucci fight and Thousand Sunny are there(at the latest).
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The only relation it has to timing is that they kept details out from anything beyond what has been published in tanks to avoid spoiling tank-only readers.
As I mentioned before, there's actually one scene from the chapter where Brooke appears from the inside of Sunny that was used in order to show something of what she/he has and can do.
Seeing as the comment from Oda re. WB is dated 3/07, I'm guessing they could have put anything they wanted in. They just decided it would be a lot better to avoid spoiling readers…..like Oda did at JF when he began talking about Franky joining prior to the tank being published.
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Heres a quick scan i put together of the chart. who is this raines (sp?) guy, i dont remember him either.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1014/marinechartys8.th.png
Thanks for the translated chart. And yes as it already has been said, Lines was Fullbody´s subordinate. The one who reported Gin´s escape and got shot in the head by the same to be precise.
@ Greg: Thanks for the answer on my question. It´s truly disappointing that those guys haven´t been given names.
And I´m with Ubiq on the matter considering the Marines that Doflamingo toyed with. It´s as if Oda completely wants to avoid saying something about officers of that rank. Going by their robe, they have the same rank/position as Bogart. Are they some sort of Vice Admiral assistants? I´d really like to know their role at least. This includes the Marine officers Brandnew was talking too.
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I hope the book includes a picture of the dealy departed pub owner.
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@Pass:
Whoa. Koby and Helmeppo in the sergeant ranks? I thought they were still pettyofficers.
It's a difference in the translation of their rank, not a difference in the rank itself. Koby is souchou (曹長), Tashigi's old rank, while Helmeppo is gunsou (軍曹), one step below Koby. The "sergeant major" and "sergeant" designations fit better with a land-based military force than a seafaring one, going by standard English usage, but they are legitimate translations of the terms more generally.
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So Chief Petty Officer and Petty Officer would actually be the proper translation for the rank if we go by the translation of Fleet Admiral, Admiral, Vice Admiral and so on?
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I scanlated Space Time: http://apforums.net/showthread.php?p=507350#post507350
I noticed I couldn't find a bubble translated in your trans, Greg. It's the bubble on page 3 with "What's the problem?". I just guessed.
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The one who reported Gin´s escape and got shot in the head by the same to be precise.
Gin shot him in his shoulder actually.
And I´m with Ubiq on the matter considering the Marines that Doflamingo toyed with. It´s as if Oda completely wants to avoid saying something about officers of that rank. Going by their robe, they have the same rank/position as Bogart. Are they some sort of Vice Admiral assistants?
Hard to say as we can't tell what rank they are by their epaulets in that scene; not that it matters much as Oda may have changed the system since then. Crane has pips while recent uniforms have stripes that indicate rank; though that might be something unique to her uniform. At least one of them is dressed similarly to Crane, unlike the other two, which might suggest that he's a Vice Admiral himself. .
As far as the two DoFlamingo is playing with go, they're at least Lieutenant Commanders like Brandnew judging by the fact that they're wearing suits as well as the cape. So they may be assistants of the higher ranking officers, part of Naval Intelligence, or maybe even official stenographers.
I´d really like to know their role at least. This includes the Marine officers Brandnew was talking too.
My guess is that they are probably administrative officers as well; that makes the most sense considering how he explained Luffy's bounty to them.
So Chief Petty Officer and Petty Officer would actually be the proper translation for the rank if we go by the translation of Fleet Admiral, Admiral, Vice Admiral and so on?
If you want a cohesive naval hierarchy from top to bottom, they are.
Seeing as how the Japanese don't differentiate between naval and infantry rankings, you could choose to use infantry terms for non-coms (seeing as how they act as infantry at times while acting as sailors at other times), but I think it makes more sense to use a single system across the board.
Complicating things since 2009.
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So, can anyone help me with where I can find translations/scanlations of this book?
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So, can anyone help me with where I can find translations/scanlations of this book?
Translation/Scanlation of a 308 page book that came out yesterday? Why yes, it's right here between the meaning of life and how to time travel.
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Greg, wow! Thanks for all your on-the-spot translations and explanations. You've given AP a wealth of info
to fight overto discuss …I have a feeling I'll need to reread this thread a few times to remember it all.
So Franky is from South Blue. That makes him the only South Blue Mugiwara, doesn't it? Which means that there's now at least one person from each Blue on Thousand Sunny. Nice.
Out of curiousity, what are the names of the places that Luffy and Zoro are originally from? (on the off-chance that these places get mentioned somewhere in the story, like the Coup-de-Etat in Villa that we found out about through the Grand Line Vine so many chapters ago).
Can't wait to see the "Chopper expressions" and "Sanji's ruined photos" sections -- from your descriptions, both sound like a lot of fun. And the boat names section was great, but if I could have chosen, I would have preferred to see cross-sections from Thousand Sunny. My guess is that they were intentionally excluded so that Franky could continue to surprise his crew-mates (and us by extension) with Sunny's new features and fighting abilities and so on.
Sorry to hear about Whitebeard's real-life inspiration passing away, but at least his spirit will live on forever in the form of WB in OP. And it was interesting to hear about how big the crews are in The New World -- this makes me wonder if at some point, the Mugiwara will join forces with, or make alliances with, some other crew so that their numbers can be larger as well.
Oh, and I have a confession to make. Even though we've referred to VA Doberman as "Scarface" for so long, I've always secretly referred to him as "VA Nike". Why? Because each side of his mustache looks way too much like a Nike sneaker swoosh to me! ... But now that we know he's VA Doberman, I promise I'll refer to him as VA Doberman from here on out. (I'm with Aldrich on that one. "Doberman" the perfect animal name for someone who looks like he barks orders to his crew, and who appears to have more battle scars than crewmates).
"Over-thinking,
over-analyzing …"
......-- Tool (from Lateralus)
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Wow, that acutally makes me like Whitebeard even more.
Same here. Sorry to hear that he have passed away.
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Translation/Scanlation of a 308 page book that came out yesterday? Why yes, it's right here between the meaning of life and how to time travel.
No kidding. I spent like 2 hours on that scanlation of Space Time which was only 4 pages. Minimum cleaning and I was using a already ready translation from you.
I couldn't imagine doing that to 308 pages…of a lot of text.
