Kaku used soru a few times and zoro blocked each time so kaku must have realised that it was pointless using it against zoro
Right on the mark….
Kaku used soru a few times and zoro blocked each time so kaku must have realised that it was pointless using it against zoro
Right on the mark….
Zoro is not slow in any way shape or form.
Dragon looked awesome in this chapter, as did Kaya. I also really like the way the dark aura around Teach is drawn. Very cool.
And it does seem that the Blackbeard Crew are being set up to be the final villains. And am I the only one who thinks Doc Q might also have a Devil Fruit power? I mean, he could surprise us with some physical ability, but given that the BB Crew is kind of the anti-Mugiwara and the Mugiwara have three Devil Fruit users, it would make sense for him to have a Devil Fruit.
Zoro is not slow in any way shape or form.
Don't front. He's slow when it comes to directions. :silly:
I just reread the various chapters where Zoro fights Kaku. He uses Soru once to block a charge from Zoro and once more to rush straight at Zoro with no attempt to disguise what he's doing. If Zoro couldn't block that, then he has no business being a swordsman. He then uses it to pull back away from Zoro. That's it as he doesn't use it again after that.
On another note, he uses Kami-e exactly once and Geppou once as well. His lack of using Soru seems to have more to do with the fact that he prefers Rankakyu to all other Rokushiki techniques other than his various giraffe-related Shigan variations. He even uses Rankakyu to dodge or block attacks a few times instead of the more obvious choices of Tekkai or Kami-e.
To be fair though nobody really used Kami-e that much or at all really. It seemed like the best way to dodge attacks though, even better than Tekkai.
Zoro's speed:
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Zoro's pretty frickin' fast. Oh, and here's the scans of him tossing a building:
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This might be igsnignificant, but did anyone notice the shape of the Darkness devil fruit is the same as the Gomu Gomu no Mi?
What does everyone think of Kaya's new look?
@Fire Fist:
This might be igsnignificant, but did anyone notice the shape of the Darkness devil fruit is the same as the Gomu Gomu no Mi?
Not really, Luffy's fruit was round while this one looks more like Buggy's only with spikes sticking out of it.
What does everyone think of Kaya's new look?
smexy. very very smexy. also her quote about I'll hear Usopp's wounds when he gets back just makes that pairing oh so much better.
Not really, Luffy's fruit was round while this one looks more like Buggy's only with spikes sticking out of it.
Yeah, the darkness Devil Fruit (in the one panel it was shown with the 4th division guy, who looks kind of dumb compared to the other three by the way) looked like a bunch of spiky grapes to me.
And as for the Zoro speed discussion, if you have a look at Skypiea; you'll see that in Zoro v. Braham he showed several feats of being pretty quick. He ran up a tree, dodged bullets, and did a couple of other speedy things.
very good chapter
can't wait to see how the fit turns out
seems to me that BB doesn't yet have a complete crew so it seems kinda pointless to match them up with the Strawhats…
in any case we now finally know what a Logia fruit looks like! yay!
Zoro's pretty frickin' fast. Oh, and here's the scans of him tossing a building:
Oda assigned him a dexterity rating of 4/6, we don't know if the ratings Oda gave the Straw Hats are amongst themselves, in relation to other people in the OP world or are held constant; however, the ratings directly apply to the era you're citing scans from, if not a bit later. 4/6 might seem good, but keep in mind that makes him equal to Nami and Sanji, so it's close to average speed for the Straw Hats.
On the offhand, Usopp has a six in dexterity and people claim he's not as fast as Zoro; well, Zoro sure wasn't fast enough to dodge Ener's lightning. A pity Usopp lacks the brains to use his speed more effectively in combat.
Have anyone seen Usopp run away from people? He is probaberly the fastest on the crew. XD
BTW. I don't like how Dragon says 'accidents' and all about Luffy and then we suddenly whoosh to Ace. I know people point to the 3 days thing, but that for me is another bad omen for Ace. Dragon was referring to EL, but the order of events afterwards isn't great at that point.
The Darkeness fruti will probably be the coolest one.
I'd certainly would have choosen that if i could.:ninja:
@ultimateclima:
Yea, he'll be too busy fighting Mihawk. Seriously mark this down in history my bet is that Mihawk will fight Zoro while the others fight Blackbeard.
LOL, agreed. I'm in the group of fans that think the BB crew is part of the final arc, and that Zoro will be too busy fighting with Mihawk at this point.
Usopp will be able to defeat Van Auger with help from Yasopp.
And Lafitte vs Sanji will own everything.
And the 3 days ago thing has significance of some sort… most likely that, in the next chapter featuring Ace/BB, Blackbeard shows up at the doorstep of Marine HQ in the present time with an unconscious Ace slung over Jesus' shoulder.
I don't really get why people want Ace to die so badly. Isn't having him defeated enough for story purposes?
Oda assigned him a dexterity rating of 4/6, we don't know if the ratings Oda gave the Straw Hats are amongst themselves, in relation to other people in the OP world or are held constant; however, the ratings directly apply to the era you're citing scans from, if not a bit later. 4/6 might seem good, but keep in mind that makes him equal to Nami and Sanji, so it's close to average speed for the Straw Hats.
On the offhand, Usopp has a six in dexterity and people claim he's not as fast as Zoro; well, Zoro sure wasn't fast enough to dodge Ener's lightning. A pity Usopp lacks the brains to use his speed more effectively in combat.
Eeeuuuhhh… dexterity is one's ability to think creatively and use what you've got to get through a situation. Agility is the category you are discussing there, bud. :P And if you want to call BS on me I'll even ring up the Japanese term used, kiyou. 器用 (器) – caliber, (用) -- task.
Maybe someone already have posted a link… anywho...
early scanlation:
http://www.trankten.com/manga/index.php?get=22
there's no way that ace will be defeated :P
mark my word….
there's no way that ace will be defeated :P
mark my word….
You have been marked.
If Ace wins, I'll change my sig to whatever you want for a week. If Ace loses, I get to change your sig for a week.
there's no way that ace will be defeated :P
mark my word….
I am sorry, very sorry. I am really sorry.
but Ace isn't going to win again Teach nor is he going to come out of this unhurt….....
If Shanks went to all the trouble to meet up with a fellow enemy like Whitebeard, you did think that's is enough to say how serious Shanks is about the Ace and Blackbeard situation.
If Blackbeard got hit by Hiken, and stands up without a scratch and is now counterattacking.
the hints are all there...... it's just a matter of if you want to believe it or not.
but in reality is, Ace IS NOT going to come out of this alive (but this is an understatment, as Oda will never kill Ace....)..... so, I should say Ace is not going to come out of this fight UNHURT....... he might even be handed over to the marines, so that Teach can get his wished of becoming a shichibukai....
Oda has and is giving indications that Teach is going to be one badass antagonist in this chapter......
Great chapter. Looks like Oda was delaying the east blue reactions because it would have been wrong with usopp out of the crew. Also it is made clear that you can know a devil's fruit power before eating it so the reaction of lucky roux in chapter 1 wasn't a plot hole after all as some people had speculated. btw thanks for the scanlation fh.
I don't think that all of BBs crew will be final opponents to the SHs… Van Auger and Teach could be and maybe Doc Q but I don't think Jesus Burgess nor Lafitte will, why? Because I think Franky, Sanji or Zoro deserves something better for a final opponent, some guy with a more big name, like one of the yonkou, one of the shichibukai or a vice admiral or admiral...
Though I can totally see Luffy vs Blackbeard, Usopp vs Van Auger and Chopper vs Doc Q...
I think we pretty much already know about Jesus Burgess and Van Augers fightning style, Van Auger shoots, and Burgess use physical strength and he could have some kind of weapon too.
But about the other 2... I doubt that Lafitte can do soru, why would a marine from west blue be able to do that, and plus it would be a lame. I think he has somekind of Bird fruit, and with that fruit he becomes just as big as everyone else in the crew and thats also how he could get up to that building without people noticing. And he kinda looks like a vulture too.
About Doc Q, I think his fightning style is similair to Choppers, he dope himself, hence the reason why he is sick all the time, and also the reason why he was rowing their ship with Burgess before, gaining enough physical strength so he could keep up with Burgess.
I hope it could be something like Mr. Hides ability become a giant freak, so that Chopper can use his monster form.. And his horse may be a keyrole to his fightning style, since it is also sick and because of that probably doped sometimes too... or just useless like Ohms dog Saint.
He also carries something big on his back, wonder what that is...
I don't think that all of BBs crew will be final opponents to the SHs… Van Auger and Teach could be and maybe Doc Q but I don't think Jesus Burgess nor Lafitte will, why? Because I think Franky, Sanji or Zoro deserves something better for a final opponent, some guy with a more big name, like one of the yonkou, one of the shichibukai or a vice admiral or admiral...
Though I can totally see Luffy vs Blackbeard, Usopp vs Van Auger and Chopper vs Doc Q...
I think we pretty much already know about Jesus Burgess and Van Augers fightning style, Van Auger shoots, and Burgess use physical strength and he could have some kind of weapon too.
But about the other 2... I doubt that Lafitte can do soru, why would a marine from west blue be able to do that, and plus it would be a lame. I think he has somekind of Bird fruit, and with that fruit he becomes just as big as everyone else in the crew and thats also how he could get up to that building without people noticing. And he kinda looks like a vulture too.About Doc Q, I think his fightning style is similair to Choppers, he dope himself, hence the reason why he is sick all the time, and also the reason why he was rowing their ship with Burgess before, gaining enough physical strength so he could keep up with Burgess.
I hope it could be something like Mr. Hides ability become a giant freak, so that Chopper can use his monster form.. And his horse may be a keyrole to his fightning style, since it is also sick and because of that probably doped sometimes too... or just useless like Ohms dog Saint.
He also carries something big on his back, wonder what that is...
I do think that Luffy's crew will fight Teach's crew, but I'm still not certain that their going to be final opponent by any means. We'll have to see how far Blackbeard climbs in the scheme of things.
I don't think Blackbeards crew will be final opponents at all. There is still alot of people out there for me to think it is him. Like the other Shichibukai, the Yonkou, the Gorosei and maybe some other unknowns like Enel.
who threw the idea of BB crew will be the SH's final battle?
that would be so lame,some guys (except the captain) that can't defeat ace can't have that honor
luffy vs WB and zoro vs mihawk are given fights and there also are 3 admirals and sengoku (we only know that aokiji will fight luffy),4 schichibukai (without croc and mihawk),yonkou (even shanks may fight zoro before mihawk),revolutionaries (dragon and his best nakama) and other guys or groups may pop out since according to oda OP will last 1000 chapters
and maybe some SH may fight more of one guys from the same group,so the BB crew theory isn't possible at all,i say if in not this one,in the next,the 2 crews will fight
Good chapter, finally got to read cuz of the sweet scanlation.
Great to see some characters we haven't seen since hundreds of chapters ago!
Why do people always want to shoehorn Admirals, Emperors or Shichibukais as final opponents for some of the lower strawhats? Just because Zoro will fight a Shichibukai at the very end doesn't mean Sanji must do the same with an equally powerful opponent. That'd be worthless fanservice and a downgrade of some of these badass characters.
To see Sengoku get his ass kicked by the cotton candy loving pet or the love cook with the hand drawn bounty poster beat one Emperor would be ridiculous. That's why BB and his men seem to be perfect final opponents; they're likely extremely powerful yet none of them have that aura the members of the 3 Great Powers of Grandline possess.
Did Oda really say One piece was gonna last for 1000 chapters or are you just making up facts?
well bb and luffy have a goal in common… so they are going down the same roads... the fact that bb and luffy wanna be the next pirate king means they will meet at the very end imho
I haven't read the new chapter yet, someone needs to upload it to the MSN groups.
So hurry up and do so, before I start stabbing you with sharp, pointy objects.
Did Oda really say One piece was gonna last for 1000 chapters or are you just making up facts?
I doubt Oda said that when he is surpised that the series even lasted this long i think he anticipated it to last about 5 years so we will see when its over.
OH HOLY HELL THIS CHAPTER WAS THE BEST THING EVER.
I just love it how Oda never forgets any of his characters, no matter how many chapters it's been since we last saw them. Everyone was so adorable and SQUEEABLE AND EEEEEEEEEEEE I LOVE THIS MANGA AND ODA AND THE WORLDDDDddd.
Am I really the only one annoyed by Nojiko's bracelet, though? >>;
OH HOLY HELL THIS CHAPTER WAS THE BEST THING EVER.
I just love it how Oda never forgets any of his characters, no matter how many chapters it's been since we last saw them. Everyone was so adorable and SQUEEABLE AND EEEEEEEEEEEE I LOVE THIS MANGA AND ODA AND THE WORLDDDDddd.
Am I really the only one annoyed by Nojiko's bracelet, though? >>;
So hard to believe she got another one after giving Nami hers?
who threw the idea of BB crew will be the SH's final battle?
Actually, it is smart from a storyline perspective to introduce your main villians now and build them up until the final story arc. That way, the main villian doesn't come out of nowhere and you actually CARE about the fights (e.g. Ultimecia in FFVIII, Omicron in FFIX).
Oda is good about building up characters. He knew that to get Franky "over" with the fans, he had to start featuring him in some fights so he gave him Nero on the Sea Train.
Oda has introduced Blackbeard this early to track his rise just like he did with Luffy. It's what character development is. They share the exact same dream, so it makes sense to put them on a collision course with each other with One Piece as the final prize.
And also, I don't think WB is going to face Luffy at all. Too many variables in the mix of things with the other Yonkou, Shichibukai, WG, and Dragon. Wouldn't suprise me to see BB become Shichibukai and steamroll over WB in order to get to One Piece. Oda threw in that line by Shanks that BB is becomming more powerful than any of them for a reason. And WB is very arrogant with not calling off Ace and doubting Shanks. Yeah, BB has been laying low all of this time but… Shanks did come all that way to talk to WB. So I think, WB is being set-up now for a fall.
While I'm really interested in the outcome of Ace v. Blackbeard, I think Oda has just thrown one more mystery at us.
The mayor of Luffy's village wonders if "Dadan" knows.
Who is Dadan? What are his/her/its purpose in the story? Am I making something out of nothing?
@Fire Fist:
So hard to believe she got another one after giving Nami hers?
How would you feel if Shanks got a new straw hat?
How would you feel if Shanks got a new straw hat?
That's different. I doubt the bracelet is Nojiko's treasure, her tangerine grove and the health of her sister is. The bracelet was just a little charm that she wore. Nami's tattoo is a tangerine (Nojiko) and a pinwheel (Gen-san). It's not a pinwheel and a bracelet.
i think the bracelets comes in a pair…... she gave Nami one, she wear one.........simple as that....
While I'm really interested in the outcome of Ace v. Blackbeard, I think Oda has just thrown one more mystery at us.
The mayor of Luffy's village wonders if "Dadan" knows.
Who is Dadan? What are his/her/its purpose in the story? Am I making something out of nothing?
I thought that it was referring to Luffy's father.
@Fire Fist:
That's different. I doubt the bracelet is Nojiko's treasure, her tangerine grove and the health of her sister is.
The bracelet was just a little charm that she wore. Nami's tattoo is a tangerine (Nojiko) and a pinwheel (Gen-san). It's not a pinwheel and a bracelet.
The hat wasn't Shanks' treasure either, it was just important to him. The bracelet, as Oda said, symbolises Nojiko to Nami - so with her tattoo and the bracelet, she carries her mother, father and sister with her, over the seas.
She never had a father.
about Shanks strawhat…... that hat has been with him since Roger's time..... you did think it's REALLY important for him........
God damn!
This chapter's got to be one of best yet. Blackbeard vs Ace fight is started, Dragon with an even more badass image! And of course a bit of action from my personal favourite!
Yet why does Blackbeard's fruit remind me of ash, instead of darkness?
Don't ask me, he's not my captain. Anyway, I don't think the hat is as important to Shanks as it is to Luffy.
@Impel:
She never had a father.
Good job, Einstein. Read the chapter again. And Arlong Park, while you're at it. Genzo's her father figure.