@Ubiq said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
Plus you can't just go straight for The Wall movie; that's one you build up to.
Perhaps they'll reimagine him as a big Pink Floyd fan.
Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs
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We’ll at least it’s better than the El Meurto movie there making, you know the spider man character who’s only ever appeared in 3 issues in all of Marvel history
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@Shiebs said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
We’ll at least it’s better than the El Meurto movie there making, you know the spider man character who’s only ever appeared in 3 issues in all of Marvel history
Wonder if that’s still happening. Bad Bunny is no longer attached to the project and haven’t heard anything about a recast.
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Well Winter Soldier had Batroc.
Paste Pot Pete was not only a recurring character in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon he had a whole fucking episode where he was the central villain.
And the Spot was the main villain of the Spider-Verse sequel.
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The difference is that they were villains, not the main stars on which those movies or shows were centered around.
Just saw The Marvels. It's alright, nothing special to be honest. The dynamic between the three main characters was fun enough and I finally grew to like Brie Larson's Carol Danvers, who finally got to show off her natural charm in the role. Captain Marvel had a kind of cool, laid-back older sister vibe in this film and I quite enjoyed her interactions with Monica and Kamala, who is just the biggest sweetheart. The real scene stealers were Kamala's family though, I really liked all of their scenes.
But I couldn't really get into the story at all. It featured a lot of vaguely explained scifi mumbo jumbo and felt like it was just meandering along. I think my problem was that the film simply lacked highlights, really strong, memorable or innovative scenes, be it dramatic, comedic or action.
Just like the last Ant-Man, it's just an ok superhero movie with likable characters.
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^ I know that I was more so agreeing with Ubiq with the idea of just throw them in a movie whether it’s for 5 minutes or a good chunk of time.
It’s certainly better of going to the well to of using the same exact villains that have been used.
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@Riddler said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
really strong, memorable or innovative scenes, be it dramatic, comedic or action.
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"I thought that they were going to have so much fun with this...and then they just kinda don't do anything with it at all?"
Apparently that sequence was much longer and test audiences were weirded out, so it got cut down significantly.
There's a reason this is the shortest Marvel movie by almost half an hour.
Hopefully we get the deleted scene at some point.
"Finally, I'm actually unsure what needle drop scene you mean? "
Yes, that scene. Because that song removed from it's usual context to be put in that scene? But its usual context still being super appropriate? Taking the usually beautiful ballad and turning it into a horror theme? It was hilarious and a great blend, and I will never hear that song the same way again without thinking of this movie. Same way Guardians 2 forever changed "Come a Little Bit Closer".
But maybe if you didn't grow up hearing the source material a lot it loses something.
And yes, the quote/spoiler bug is annoying.
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On the Spidey movies, it's all just about retaining the rights with cheap movies that make just enough. I wish the movies were actually good, but I'm fine with it so that the MCU doesn't have a monopoly on Superhero films.
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People who are misogynistic dicks and happy that The Marvels isn't doing well, and Steven King telling them to can it:
https://www.comicsands.com/stephen-king-responds-marvels-gloating-2666246465.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3eN6BNWtMPGHDYVfBlBPQIs6JhTpOhftYSUoMsv0XVihY8PMvG3uPN21k#Echobox=1700327300 -
Yeah every misogynistic asshole with a YouTube account is loving this
It’s almost unbearable to go on YouTube right now
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Steven King should write the next MCU Halloween special.
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These morons online are the worst. I guess they have been wishing for a MCU movie to fail foe years now - I feel like there have been "This movie is going to be a terrible flop for Marvel" videos on YouTube before the release of every Marvel movie released in the last couple of years, and now they are ecstatically creaming their pants because they finally happened to be right for once. Especially since it is starring the much reviled Brie Larson. It's just all so pathetic.
From their point of view, this proves their narrative right that Marvel is doomed because they "went woke" - that whole "go woke, go broke" idea. I wonder if they have any explanations for why other movies starring white male superheroes like the Flash also flopped, or why a movie like Black Panther 2, with mostly black and female leads, did pretty well financially and with audiences and critics alike...
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@Riddler said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
From their point of view, this proves their narrative right that Marvel is doomed because they "went woke" - that whole "go woke, go broke" idea. I wonder if they have any explanations for why other movies starring white male superheroes like the Flash also flopped,
Ezra Miller being a member of the LGBTQ+ community would be one bullshit explanation….nevermind the fact no one cared about Miller’s affiliation when they came out in 2012.
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It's starting to sound like Pedro Pascal is pretty much confirmed as Mr. Fantastic
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I'm not against that.
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Dammit. Well, since we are knee-deep in multi-verse now . . . . can we recast him and call it multi-verse?
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Don’t know why not.
Don Cheadle has been Rhodes since Iron Man 2.
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Ke Huy Quan for Kang, I say. It would let him really stretch as an actor, and also the guy just had really pleasant vibes. In terms of creating an character who is different from Thanos, I think Quan would be a great route to take.
She/Her
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Marvel didn't recast Black Panther partly out of respect for Chadwick Boseman, but this seems to be a case where "respect" isn't anything that needs to be paid the actor. They've recast others, seems fine to recast him now. Ke Huy Quan doesn't seem to fit Kang for me, but there's any number of actors to try.
It's a shame, because I thought Majors was doing great as Kang. But they've put so much into Kang by now that dropping him seems wasteful.
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If they dump Kang and don’t just recast him after all the time they spent building him up I’ll be extremely upset
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@JulieYBM said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
Ke Huy Quan for Kang, I say. It would let him really stretch as an actor, and also the guy just had really pleasant vibes. In terms of creating an character who is different from Thanos, I think Quan would be a great route to take.
Even though he was already a prominent character in Loki?
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Could easily replace the "actor" but keep the "character" via some variant in-universe explanation.
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It's a shame Kang doesn't have much of an iconic look.
Would be a lot easier to slide in a recast if they could pull-off a Loki and have any random guy in the same easily recognisable hat. -
I mean, just have him show up in this outfit, mask down at the start and then by the time he takes it off and shows his actual face the audience will have adjusted.
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@Robby said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
@JulieYBM said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
Ke Huy Quan for Kang, I say. It would let him really stretch as an actor, and also the guy just had really pleasant vibes. In terms of creating an character who is different from Thanos, I think Quan would be a great route to take.
Even though he was already a prominent character in Loki?
Yeah, that was what led me to think he would be a good choice in the first place. Imagine learning that OB is either the Kang, or a closely connected off-shoot that could be instrumental in the Kang's downfall? If Loki winds up coming back for the climax of the Kang story threads I think that it would be really cool to play and rely on the pre-established chemistry Quan and Hiddleston have for it.
OB being a Kang variant really wouldn't be all that different than Victor Timely being a backup plan for He Who Remains, either. It would also be a complete curve ball on multiple levels of casting.
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I'm in for just recasting him instead of throwing all previous plans over board. Sure, the actor did a good job in the role, but I don't think anyone will blame Marvel for recasting him because of his legal issues, and the fact that his character is all about the multiverse and different variants, and that we've already multiple instances of variants of the same character looking completely different, really gives them an easy out here from a storytelling point of view. Sure, he played a big role in Ant-Man 3, but it's not like that many people really care about that movie or have even watched it, if we are being honest.
I would probably play it a little safe and at least replace him with an actor that looks somewhat similar. I honestly don't think casual viewers will even notice - I've actually started rewatching the MCU with someone who has never seen it before recently, and she honestly didn't even notice that Rhodey was played by a different actor in Iron Man 2
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There's already call for John Boyega to replace him. I'd go for it.
@Robby said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
I mean, just have him show up in this outfit, mask down at the start and then by the time he takes it off and shows his actual face the audience will have adjusted.
I was going to say, doesn't Kang have blue/purple skin? I'd call that kinda iconic.
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I think the idea and desire from Marvel was for the next Big Bad to not just be another big CG guy ala Thanos, hence why Kang was portrayed the way that he was.
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@Shiebs said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
If they dump Kang and don’t just recast him after all the time they spent building him up I’ll be extremely upset
I don’t think they’d be stupid enough to pull a Chadwick Boseman twice
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@Satsuki said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
There's already call for John Boyega to replace him. I'd go for it.
I'd be 1000% okay with that but does Boyega even really want to work with Disney all that much after what The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker did to Finn? I know he's made his peace with them but that doesn't translate into a desire to take over a major role.
Complicating things since 2009.
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So they are changing the title?
https://screenrant.com/avengers-5-title-change-mcu-ditching-kang/
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@Ubiq said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
@Satsuki said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
There's already call for John Boyega to replace him. I'd go for it.
I'd be 1000% okay with that but does Boyega even really want to work with Disney all that much after what The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker did to Finn? I know he's made his peace with them but that doesn't translate into a desire to take over a major role.
Who knows? Casting him as the next major MCU villain could be seen as their way of trying to make up for it.
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Finn was the Han Solo of the sequel trilogy. Should've died in the second movie and served no purpose in the third movie.
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@Ubiq said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
@Satsuki said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
There's already call for John Boyega to replace him. I'd go for it.
I'd be 1000% okay with that but does Boyega even really want to work with Disney all that much after what The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker did to Finn? I know he's made his peace with them but that doesn't translate into a desire to take over a major role.
He's already responded on Twitter that he's not interested.
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@Satsuki said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
Who knows? Casting him as the next major MCU villain could be seen as their way of trying to make up for it.
I don’t know casting an actor who traditionally has played morally light characters as a morally dark character would be kinda funny.
Especially with Boyega being British
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My wife an I picked up Disney + for a couple months to catch up on all the Marvel and Star Wars and Pixar stuff we haven't been on top of for a few years now, and we're making progress.
Just got through She-Hulk and that was pretty fun. Holy crap THAT is what the dudebros have been so upset about for literally years now? I'd assumed that the infamous twerking scene was like a five minute sequence or something, they love grabbing THAT screenshot so much to show just how awful and debased the show is... but that scene is just a post credits scene and it lasts for like... 5 seconds?
Also I really liked the deconstruction ending, some serious Wayne's World energy there.
Those losers need to get a life that isn't just hating women.
Eternals- there's a good movie in there, but the one we got was overlong and dull and probably should have been paced as a miniseries instead.
Shang Chi- It was fine but nothing too exciting. Simu Liu has the look but he just doesn't have the charisma to carry a lead, he always felt like the weak link in Kim's Convenience. The seams really started to show of Marvel using the same pre-vis team for every project though, the entire thing felt very familiar. I just kept thinking what if Jackie Chan had done this same script 30 years ago? The stunts and the action and the humor would have all flowed better I think.
Ms. Marvel- Kamala is fun. Iman Vellani is a treasure and she carries hard, just like she did in the film. I hope she finds more work in the future.
Falcon and Winter Soldier- was just BORED. The spy action thriller just isn't my thing and I'm not attached to Bucky or Falcon. had a hard time getting through it.
Still need to see Hawkeye, Secret Invasion, and the horror of Quantumania, but finally catching up!
And then have to do like 2 seasons of Mandalorian and Andor.
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Yeah, I think the She-Hulk hate is really overblown. It's fine. A few dumb bits, but it's fine.
I really liked Shang Chi, but I guess it's kind of telling I barely remember anything about the lead.
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I have to shamefully admit that I disliked She-Hulk, too, when I first watched it. I wouldn't go so far and say I hated it, but it just didn't work me and I didn't feel like I was part of its target audience. But I rewatched it recently with a friend who hadn't seen it yet and surprisingly enjoyed it this time. It's still just sort of alright for me, but it's fun enough and is a nice change of pace from the usual MCU and superhero fare. I'm still not sure how I feel about its finale - on the one hand, I dig how it goes full meta and dares to make fun of the typical MCU clichès. On the other hand, it at the same just kinda lazily swipes away all the plot points and storylines set up throughout the season instead of actually resolving any of it. So, it weirdly feels like smart and lazy writing at the same time to me.
A show I've kinda soured on, on the other hand, is Ms. Marvel. It starts of with a lot of potential. It's tone and visual style in the first two episodes is really promising and fresh and I also find myself interest in Kamala's cultural background. Kamala and her family and friends are also all really likable. But from episode 3 on, it just feels like I'm watching a completely different show and none of the characters or storylines focused on from episode 3-5 is all that interesting or well-developed. I mean, the villains are easily the weakest the MCU has ever had; I couldn't make sense at all of their purpose and plot, nor did I really care. There is also some random organization introduced midway through the season who are the sworn enemies of the villain group (I guess), but then they don't really end up mattering at all and disappear from the show as abruptly as they were introduced. It's all very messy and really drags the show down for me.
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I really liked Shang-Chi, but that may be partly because my family is Chinese. We were gleefully enjoying seeing everything Chinese being superhero-ed.
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@Shiebs said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
@Robby did you at least like the ten rings in Shang Chi? I thought they were super cool versatile weapons, they could do all sorts of cool shit it was quite frankly awesome
I was scared he wouldn’t take them in the end, I can’t wait to see more of them
I thought it was a pretty neat implementation of an old slightly corny idea, but I do miss them each having unique powers. Probably didnt want to be too much like the infinity stones or have to over-explain them.
Was kinda dissapointed in the generic dragon at the end of the movie though. At least it officially wasn't Fin Fang Foom.
