Oh, weird, I thought that it was coming out on Disney+ on the 28th. Huh, neat. And tomorrow is Cobra Kai V on Netflix!
Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs
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Warning: I got triggered by Love and Thunder, when I totally didn't expect to be. If you've lost a parent, be warned.
That said, it's still a perfectly good movie. Not as good as Ragnarok, but I laughed and had fun. Until, y'know, being triggered.
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I'm just glad I was caught up with The Sopranos before watching this episode.
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Finally saw Thor: Love and Thunder. The serious moments were the best parts of the film, the comedy really did just drag the film down, they could have easily cut most of it. The last third of the film was the best part, I think. Everything after Jane told Thor about her cancer definitely felt stronger than the slog of some of the first half. I thought Thor sharing his power with the kids was a nice, unexpected touch that kind of gave Thor a degree of maturity that I wasn't really expecting. Like, oh, yeah, he's a god and he's actually able to willingly do some pretty godlike stuff!
Big fan of Thor's casual look and his new blue and yellow armor.
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Well, Morbius is finally on Netflix for anyone who wants to see the source of all the madness for themselves.
I'll be watching it tomorrow, partly because it feels obligatory at this point and partly because I'm genuinely interested in seeing Matt Smith's performance.
And the lamb lies down on Broadway
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Man, Love & Thunder just didn't do nothing for me. Not even one joke landed; villain underutilized (at least it seems Bale had fun when tampering the kids and the monologue near the end); visually boring; the Guardians...yeah, pushed cameo that should have been cut.
The sad part is that the idea was good, the assembled cast had a lot of experiences that would be enough to create a conversation and lead to interesting interactions...such a shame that none of that bear fruits. Not good ones, at least.
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@Nobodyman said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
Well, Morbius is finally on Netflix for anyone who wants to see the source of all the madness for themselves.
I think I might. I've seen so many edits that the actual, original version would be totally alien.
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@puffing-cinema said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
Man, Love & Thunder just didn't do nothing for me. Not even one joke landed; villain underutilized (at least it seems Bale had fun when tampering the kids and the monologue near the end); visually boring; the Guardians...yeah, pushed cameo that should have been cut.
The sad part is that the idea was good, the assembled cast had a lot of experiences that would be enough to create a conversation and lead to interesting interactions...such a shame that none of that bear fruits. Not good ones, at least.
100% agree with you. And, as someone who's been on-board with Taika in the past...this is 100% on him. I think. He's starting to get drowned in this sort of extended-gag kinda humor that never once landed in the entire movie. He just has the actors going with no clear punchline in sight, but at the same time it's clearly not improv? It's so bizarre. Dialogue feels half baked - the exchanges on the city of gods are insanely jarring, like they just did the barebones needed. As I read somewhere else, it seems like they just rolled with the first take of every single scene they shot.
I'm tired of 200 million dollar movies looking like ASS and the MCU is the prime culprit of this, but my god, there's 0 effort put into the cinematography here. Ragnarok had some cool shit to look at at the very least, here. . .the darkness planet has a couple neat visual ideas? That's about it? In the entire movie? The new asgard battle scene was. . .man. That was ROUGH.
I wasn't expecting much, and I was still let down.
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The trailers for Secret Invasion and Werewolf By Night are out.
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Jewish people for a decade: please give us some proper Jewish representation in the MCU.
Marvel: Okay the first proper Jewish superhero is a character specifically created as Israeli propaganda in a movie titled New World Order! (because we only had space for one Judaism-centred scene in the 6 hour slog that is Moon Knight)
Just fuck Kevin Feige that antisemtic jewhating piece of filth. Jewish people online will be less safe for the next years because of his malice.
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They released the Thunderbolts roster, I was hoping for the original six from the comic books, although that was never gonna happen, still sad about it though
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@Shiebs said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
They released the Thunderbolts roster, I was hoping for the original six from the comic books, although that was never gonna happen, still sad about it though
Songbird is a Jew, she was never going to get approved by Feige.
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@Kaiolino said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
Jewish people for a decade: please give us some proper Jewish representation in the MCU.
Marvel: Okay the first proper Jewish superhero is a character specifically created as Israeli propaganda in a movie titled New World Order! (because we only had space for one Judaism-centred scene in the 6 hour slog that is Moon Knight)
Just fuck Kevin Feige that antisemtic jewhating piece of filth. Jewish people online will be less safe for the next years because of his malice.
The hell are you talking about?! Isn't he Jewish himself?
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Well, Morbius was...Morbius. Just a very by the numbers story and then it ended as abruptly as an anime movie. Matt Smith was kinda cool, I guess.
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@Kaiolino said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
Jewish people for a decade: please give us some proper Jewish representation in the MCU.
Marvel: Okay the first proper Jewish superhero is a character specifically created as Israeli propaganda in a movie titled New World Order! (because we only had space for one Judaism-centred scene in the 6 hour slog that is Moon Knight)
Wait, what? What character are you talking about?
And Moon Knight wasn't a slog, it was good.
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@Satsuki I believe he’s talking about Songbird from the Thunderbolts
I was also really hoping that Thunderbolts would have, Citizen V (Baron Zemo), Techno (Fixer), Mach-1 (Beetle), Songbird (Screaming Mimi), Atlas (Goliath), Meteorite (Moon Stone)
https://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Thunderbolts-Marvel-Comics.jpg
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Songbird was a character created as Israeli propaganda?
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Hmm, just saw the D23 presentation, no Zemo in the Thunderbolts?? I'm happy about the Red Guardian being part of the team, he waa great in Black Widow.
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@Satsuki said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
@Kaiolino said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
Jewish people for a decade: please give us some proper Jewish representation in the MCU.
Marvel: Okay the first proper Jewish superhero is a character specifically created as Israeli propaganda in a movie titled New World Order! (because we only had space for one Judaism-centred scene in the 6 hour slog that is Moon Knight)
Wait, what? What character are you talking about?
And Moon Knight wasn't a slog, it was good.
This character in all its appearances talks about how the brave Israeli nation is under siege from Muslim barbarians... and this is what Marvel is giving people instead of the countless unproblematic Jewish characters under their control. She's a policewoman, se's part of Mossad, she is literally any antisemite's parody idea of a Jew.
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Ghost was a fantastic character in Ant-Man, I'm glad she'll be back, and is also not dead(I'm assuming she disappeared with Thanos's snap).
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I can barely recall her. All I remember is that she had chronic pain and could phase through solid matter.
Anyhow, who's the lady in the extreme left? Is the same actress from Veep?
The stylistic choice for the Werewolf special caught my attention. Cautiously optimistic.
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Oof at the pro-zionist propaganda character. I'm not looking forward to that at all because either way it's not the type of representation Jewish people need.
I'm looking forward to Daredevil and Thunderbolts. The Marvels, Secret Invasion, Iron Heart and Loki also really like a lot of fun. It's my hope that we get to see what Rhody has been up to, too, because I've sorely missed Cheadle's performance and I'm wondering if he's still active as War Machine now that Tony isn't around to create new upgrades.
I'm also hoping we get some indication of whether Morgan might be a genius like her dad and take over the Iron Man technology in ten years.
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I wasn't interested in Werewolf by Night at all until now, but that trailer looked awesome. Really unique style for the MCU, which is exactly what I want to see from the Disney + stuff.
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Did anyone ever post this? Sorry if they did
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Gave it some thought and L & T is better than the other Phase 4 films. It's glaring issue is inappropriate timing of humor. Other than that, I really liked Thor's character arc.
Shang Chi's protagonist had a weak performer and the father and daughter were carrying the film.
Black Widow is ok, but I just wasn't phased by it's messaging.
Eternals lacked strong characterization
NWH suffers from lazy writing from Strange casting the spell, Peter being inconsistent, and May being rushed
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Shang Chi was my second favorite Phase 4 movie, The First was Spider Man No Way Home
the others range from fine to meh
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Already doing damage control for a 2024 movie that could've been sidestepped entirely.
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/sabra-controversy-marvel-captain-america-4-1235375138/
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Good grief. How...why did they think they even needed to use the character in the first place?
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I'm not familiar with that character. Just off a little reading, both Sabra and The Leader are Hulk characters that are being used in NWO. So, they're mixing Hulk stories with Cap stories as a segue into Thunderbolts which are looking to utilize more Hulk characters. It is common that MCU take elements from 3-5 different storylines for amalgamations.
I see no issue with the use of the character until I see a trailer.
MCU already flipped "Man-Ape" aka White Gorilla and Mandarin/Fu-Manchu while both were horrible ideas. I don't believe in judging before the project gets a trailer. The idea that something was mishandled or in bad taste in the source material, so it shouldn't be adapted defeats the point of what adapting is. No live action project is 1:1, so it's up to those making it to do it justice.
This seems like more of there being a lack of hope in the creatives than the character itself. If this kind of thing is the issue, I don't see it as something that is impossible to flip, skip, or rework.
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The issue is that 80% of her appearances is her wanting to destroy "Arab savages"... or working with the Bush administration to create a surveillance program to use on Palestinians. Literally the very root of her character is offensive and a parody of Judaism. And it'd be one thing if she was the umpteenth Jewish character in the MCU... but she's the first (no Moon Knight does not count just because he stepped on a Jewish symbol of faith in one scene out of 6 episodes).
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I get what you mean. Why of all characters, choose that one as the first. You have a point there. I initially misunderstood you, my bad.
Jeff Kaplan & Ian Springer To Write New Film For Marvel Studios
With Matt Shakman boarding as director, Marvel Studios has now found its writers to deliver the new Fantastic Four pic. Sources tell Deadline that Jeff Kaplan and Ian Springer are on board to write the script for the film.
Insiders add that the writing duo actually has been involved with Fantastic Four for some time, even before Shakman was tapped as director, and have been outlining where this next series of films will fit into the Marvel Cinematic Universe alongside Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige. Kaplan, Springer and Shakman now will come together to align their visions for this project before writer dive into the script. Feige is producing the pic
https://deadline.com/2022/09/fantastic-four-jeff-kaplan-ian-springer-marvel-studios-1235123893/
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Not movie related, but you can't say Anthony Mackie isn't living up to his Captain America title:
https://movieweb.com/anthony-mackie-repair-roofs-damaged-by-hurricane-new-orleans/?utm_source=MW-FB-P&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=MW-FB-P&fbclid=IwAR0PEQXJf5kBbHPF3Py0hmHocy9uE26kCHA5iXbqjFSA2AdrVL_K6g9OxK8 -
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@Cockycent said in Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs:
Hmm, yes, that's a good incentive to give a third Deadpool movie a shot. It doesn't guarantee the movie will be great, but it's a good start at the very least.
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Ryan, you sunnabitch. I love you.
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This is really incredible news. If things work out I'd love to see an X-Men movie set in the universe from the epilogue of Days of Future Past, except instead of leading into Logan it led into a continuity where Charles didn't kill all those mutants and ol' James stayed at the academy and raised Laura while acting as history teacher.
I'm really hoping they don't expect Jackman to torture himself by barely eating and drinking. He deserves much better than to ruin his body.
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A few theories on why Hugh Jackman is coming back:
https://movieweb.com/hugh-jackman-wolverine-deadpool-3/?fbclid=IwAR2EPUjFO_4UVlhGUZ9ZkWJKqiSbsb9VAWTs1oGIZtxuyvdbLuky_DXIgOQI certainly didn't know 2024 is the 50th Anniversary of Wolverine.
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They are both a couple of cheeky bastards:
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The one i've been wanting to watch the most got flipped into a film
Marvel Shakes Up ‘Armor Wars’: Don Cheadle Series Now Being Developed As a Movie
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Well, why not?
A lot of people are latching on to War Machine now because not only is Rhodey Black, he's also now disabled and has to wear leg braces. That apparently means a lot to a bunch of disabled kids out there.
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The Stark Wars story is one of the first arcs I tried out as far as Marvel is concerned. To add to all that, Cheadle to me, was the most equipped performer to lead a series after Black Monday and House of Lies. For them to format it as a film says that they are obviously invested in a theatrical franchise as opposed to series.
Most of the series are 4 hours and some change and might not get a sequel season. They are purposely left open to service the films that are prioritized. The films are slowly conditioning the audience for 3 hour films. So, 3 films of Rhodey over 4-6 years would be about 6 hours as opposed to getting a 4 hour series and possibly not getting a 2nd season.
It's extremely difficult to deliver a Disney+ series the following year. Example with Loki not getting a season 2 til 2023 and it's the only live action 1 with that treatment. It's showrunner had to deal with MoM and now both head writer and directors are being replaced by in house creatives.
WV is perfect as a segue to MoM for Wanda and Agatha gets the CoC series. Many of the series don't have clearly defined functions after completing like that.
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Got me hyped (quite a fresh feeling for a Marvel movie nowadays)
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I was just on the Marvel sub talking about Waldron (Loki showrunner, MoM lead writer), now he's confirmed to write Secret Wars.
source - https://deadline.com/2022/10/avengers-secret-wars-michael-waldron-marvel-studios-1235127065/
So far- Kang Dynasty directed by Cretton (Shang Chi), written by Loveness (Quantumania)
- Secret Wars directed by ???, written by Waldron
Will they promote from within again for the SW director?
Coogler confirmed what was already know - he is using Autumn as the cinematographer this time. She was the cinematographer for Loki. I like that those working on the series can transition to films and not just the characters and storylines. They get to work with more time and a higher production cost.
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I hope Coogler takes on the Secret Wars film. I'm sure that he has to be beyond exhausted by Wakanda Forever but if possible I'd like for him to rest and then handle that film, lest they instead decide to give it to Cretton.
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I'm torn between which is the best of these 2. I respect the 3 other posters, but these 2 standout even more.
Jonás Cuarón is set to direct Sony Pictures’ El Muerto, which will star Grammy-winning artist Bad Bunny, also known as Benito A Martínez Ocasio.
Cuaron, the son of filmmaker Alfonso Cuaron, made his directorial debut with the immigration thriller Desierto. Gareth Dunnet Alcocer (Blue Beetle) is writing the script for El Muerto, about a wrestler with superpowers passed down from generation to generation in a single family.
The pic is in early development and will mark the first Latino character to lead a live-action Marvel film. El Muerto, a character originally from the Spider-Man universe, is an antihero and the son of a luchador, or Latino wrestler, and next in line to inherit the ancestral power of El Muerto.
source - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/jonas-cuaron-bad-bunny-marvel-el-muerto-1235233029/ -
Let's see if they can be as charming as the Madrigal
