Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World)

last-exit-to-laughtale

@Shin10-Bukuro If you don't mind me adding to this, the crew's "roles" are also meant to represent what they bring to the story thematically and emotionally.

Take Jinbe in WCI when he gives that speech following Pedro's sacrifice: what makes that scene great is how elegantly it answers the above by having Jinbe give them the emotional support they need in that moment while having him steering the Sunny. He's the helmsman because he literally and figuratively keeps the Straw Hats on the right track.

Yamato doesn't really have any scenes like that with the Straw Hats... mainly because she has few substantial scenes with the Straw Hats to begin with. And it's hard to imagine what the Yamato equivalent of such a scene would look like given that all her character traits & themes are extremely arc-specific.

electricmastro

@last-exit-to-laughtale said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

@Shin10-Bukuro If you don't mind me adding to this, the crew's "roles" are also meant to represent what they bring to the story thematically and emotionally.

Take Jinbe in WCI when he gives that speech following Pedro's sacrifice: what makes that scene great is how elegantly it answers the above by having Jinbe give them the emotional support they need in that moment while having him steering the Sunny. He's the helmsman because he literally and figuratively keeps the Straw Hats on the right track.

Yamato doesn't really have any scenes like that with the Straw Hats... mainly because she has few substantial scenes with the Straw Hats to begin with. And it's hard to imagine what the Yamato equivalent of such a scene would look like given that all her character traits & themes are extremely arc-specific.

Yamato seems keen on protecting people not just physically but what they believe in like freedom, so I’d figure a role/dream would be related to that.

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

Do we think the new person who will join already has a bounty or will they get it after joining the Straw Hats

My money is still on the straw hats finding out they have a job they need filled and then miraculously finding someone who fits that bill on the island they're headed to

That's how it happened for, Nami, Sanji, Chopper and Franky and I could see it happening again

I can see something needing to be done about swarms of enemies invading the ship now that Luffy is known as an Emperor worldwide, and be done a way that doesn’t largely take away from meaningful interaction too.

Shin10 Bukuro

@Deicide I'm much more partial to Vivi or even Smoker joining, but if you're behind Boa joining, then I am definitely considering it.

@Zin-Magala Not at all! I was just venting general frustration. I agree with you, by the way.

@Shift You are definitely right. Jinbe's thematic link is definitely the least clear.

@last-exit-to-laughtale Beautifully said. (pls post more often)

last-exit-to-laughtale

@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

Yamato seems keen on protecting people not just physically but what they believe in like freedom, so I’d figure a role/dream would be related to that.

It wasn't really "protecting people" though, it was protecting the people of Wano specifically. The first time she ever even expressed a desire to head out to sea, she says it's so she can fight for Wano. Like I said, it's all extremely arc-specific.

electricmastro

@last-exit-to-laughtale said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

Yamato seems keen on protecting people not just physically but what they believe in like freedom, so I’d figure a role/dream would be related to that.

It wasn't really "protecting people" though, it was protecting the people of Wano specifically. The first time she ever even expressed a desire to head out to sea, she says it's so she can fight for Wano. Like I said, it's all extremely arc-specific.

I’ll have to see what her response will be the day she does sail out and witnesses atrocities such as slaves being beaten by Celestial Dragons and the like then, because I doubt Yamato would ignore the freedoms of other people being taken away like that, whether they’re from Wano or not.

Zin Magala

If we are going down the Yamato Dream rabbit hole, I figured it would turn into being the next Oden. Not literally Oden but being an inspiration to the next generation with her own adventures and feats. Inspiring those who may be in similar situations that they too can achieve their dreams.

Ivotas

Why do we still talk about Yamato? Talk about Carrot while it's fresh! Depending about how many more non-Strawhat chapters we'll get, we might have only a few days (or a few weeks at best) left where this character has still a tiny chance of joining.

Zin Magala

I don’t consider Carrot a candidate so Carrot fans probably don’t want me chiming in. lol

Ivotas

@Zin-Magala
As a Carrot supporter I wouldn't want you to remain silent just because you have a different take then me. It's a discussion forum after all. In that sense for Carrot we still have a small time window open on the topic, for Yamato on the other hand the window has already closed.

That being said, the Yamato situation actually isn't the first time that people go through this. Perhaps there should be a sepperate "characters you wish joined" thread to go on, what could have been. I might aswell have to contribute to such a thread as a Carrot supporter soon.^^'

danie

@Ivotas I wouldn't even think of Carrot if it wasn't for her over zealous fans that think she stoyed away on the Sunny again.

Zin Magala

I don’t have anything to say that hasn’t already been said so I don’t see a reason to dig up old arguments.

All I will say is if you are still going down with the ship, I salute you. One Piece is about achieving one’s dreams and I say grab those dreams.

I’ll be on stand by with my rescue boat when you’re ready. On a serious note, I see nothing wrong in liking character and hoping they join. I say go for it.

Shiebs

I’m just hoping that if the next member isn’t Carrot, that whoever it is has an insane character design, something really unique

Shin10 Bukuro

I think Carrot's only chance of joining is:

if Oda pulls another twist that ends up being the complete opposite of Yamato's: Carrot chooses sailing over the responsibility of ruling over Zou
She joins as a "Minarai" (apprentice), which is an odd status to have as it would position her as a subordinate member
She eats a Devil Fruit (preferably logia)

#1 seems like something Oda might pull off, if he wanted to blow everyone's minds.
#3 is easy enough to do, especially considering we all want a logia on the ship
But #2......just doesn't feel right. I don't think Carrot offers enough to be a full-fledged member, so she would have to be a Minarai, which she's literally a perfect fit for.

So, the question about Carrot really is: Will the 11th and final Strawhat Nakama occupy a subordinate position as a Minarai? I'm open to whatever Oda decides to do, but...I would guess the final member should feel equally as important as the rest of the crew.

danie

This is all likely to end soon when Oda updates the situation of the minks and Carrot is with them all fine and dandy. I'm sure that won't stop the true believers though.

Caribou is more likely to be on the ship.

Zin Magala

I never understood why more people didn’t champion the Apprentice role for Carrot.

I agree that Apprentice role has a “low man on totem pole” feel to it but I figured it would only be temporary. Not sure what other role Carrot could take. I’ve already said my piece about Lookout.

Even though it will never happen, I want Oda to go all-in on Caribou being the 11th. Make everyone real upset for however long the ruse lasts. lol

Shiebs

If Vivi does end up joining the crew, whether forever or Temporary, what kind of fighting style do you think she’ll have? All the Straw Hats can fight now, it’s pretty much a necessity

Zin Magala

I figured Vivi would eat a Devil Fruit or maybe learn a fighting style on Elbaf.

The Kuma theory is not looking so great right now.

Shiebs

Kuma could still join, he’d just need a new body, something Vegapunk could help out with

He was gonna need one anyway, all the pascifistas look exactly like him, and can be 1 hit K.O.Ed

Hard for someone to be intimidating when every low level lackey looks exactly like you, Imagine how less of a threat Darth Vader would be if he looked exactly like a storm trooper

Zin Magala

Sorry, I’m talking about Vivi eating Kuma’s fruit.

Shin10 Bukuro

@Shiebs I'm puzzled as to how Oda can reintroduce her back into the plot as a top-level threat to the World Government, comparable to Luffy, Teach, or Shirahoshi...

My instant reaction is that she wields Uranus' power; either by controlling the weapon (like Momo), or being the actual weapon herself (like Shirahoshi). But it could also be the case that her threat level could be something else unrelated to battle power.

Either way, she desperately needs an update to her fighting style as well as a big boost to her power. So, I think a logia Devil Fruit is a pretty solid guess. The interesting part is...Carue! If both Vivi and Carue eat Devil Fruits, that would be a huge change in style as well as a big boost in power.

Ivotas

@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

I don’t have anything to say that hasn’t already been said so I don’t see a reason to dig up old arguments.

All I will say is if you are still going down with the ship, I salute you. One Piece is about achieving one’s dreams and I say grab those dreams.

I’ll be on stand by with my rescue boat when you’re ready. On a serious note, I see nothing wrong in liking character and hoping they join. I say go for it.

I think that just out of respect for the majority of Yamato supporters (aside from those few bad apples that had to go the extra mile and use terms like 'delusional' and/or worse to classify people who thought Yamato wouldn't join) I have to die on that hill. Everyone stood firm defending their take on Yamato joining. So the least I can do is not be a turn coat and go as far you guys did, even though I'm fully aware that the chances are miniscule. But it's not 0% yet. I don't expect her to join. But I still hope she would.

Shiebs

@Shin10-Bukuro I’ve also been dying to find out why Im also had a picture of her along with the others, got to be a good reason

As a person who really wants a logia member to join the crew I’d be tots down with that option to

As for Carue having a DF, I have no idea what that would be but I’d love it

Ivotas

@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

@Shin10-Bukuro > As for Carue having a DF, I have no idea what that would be but I’d love it

Give Carue the German Voice "Actor" fruit and I'd be happy. I'm not kidding, the sounds Carue made in the German anime is what got me into One Piece in the first place. The one and only time I thought the German version was superior to the original.

Zin Magala

I think Vivi is joining the Revolutionaries. If they want to rally the world against the WG, they need a face/voice to achieve that. That lines up with bringing her country together and she definitely knows how to give a speech. This would give her an important role that will carry her for the rest of the series.

I still want my SH/Vivi time but if her and Sabo are in this part of the sea, I can see her leaving with him.

electricmastro

@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

I think Vivi is joining the Revolutionaries. If they want to rally the world against the WG, they need a face/voice to achieve that. That lines up with bringing her country together and she definitely knows how to give a speech. This would give her an important role that will carry her for the rest of the series.

I still want my SH/Vivi time but if her and Sabo are in this part of the sea, I can see her leaving with him.

I’m sure we’ll get Vivi time with the Straw Hats again now that Vivi basically has to be on the run for now while things settle down in Alabasta. I realize that she stayed in her country out of genuine love and care more than anything else, and I don’t get the feeling that has changed now that’s she’s a Queen in waiting, but I’m sure it will finally pay off into Vivi interaction with Franky, Brook, and Jinbe too.

Deicide

I'd rather have the Straw Hats go save Vivi than she being with Sabo.

Because, if she's with Sabo, then the logical decision isn't to go for a third party, but seek refuge with the Revolutionary Army.

Unless the army is destroyed by the marines, since they were wire-tapped and their base is now known...

Galleon Panthera

@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

This is all likely to end soon when Oda updates the situation of the minks and Carrot is with them all fine and dandy. I'm sure that won't stop the true believers though.

Caribou is more likely to be on the ship.

Whether Carrot joins or not, isn't my real concern anymore. I just want closure with this character. If it ends up with her being ruler, then I'm fine with it. That is really all to it. Nothing else at this point.

That is as reasonable I can get.

Zin Magala

We don’t know where Vivi is so rescue could still be in play.

Deicide

@Zin-Magala You should edit your post because you are hinting at things of an unreleased chapter.

Zin Magala

@Deicide

Thank you.

Ivotas

Dammit! Now I got spoilered. :(

@Galleon-Panthera said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

This is all likely to end soon when Oda updates the situation of the minks and Carrot is with them all fine and dandy. I'm sure that won't stop the true believers though.

Caribou is more likely to be on the ship.

Whether Carrot joins or not, isn't my real concern anymore. I just want closure with this character. If it ends up with her being ruler, then I'm fine with it. That is really all to it. Nothing else at this point.

That is as reasonable I can get.

If find this jab at Carrot supporters kinda funny considering that we have people here who cannot find closure about Yamato not joining the Strawhats. XD

And I agree with you. If she doesn't join, she doesn't join. That's it. Nothing wrong with keeping hope up a little longer until we reach the invevitable point of no return.
What I'm having a bigger problem with, is not that she stays behind but how Oda did her dirty if that was it. With Vivi and Yamato it was literally the characters themselves who decided to stay behind, while they were free to join the Strawhats. Carrot on the other hand has agency taken away from her by having selfish Cat and Dog make stay behind to rule the kingdom. Because that's totally, what the free spirit who snuck away to see the world would want, right?

Not to mention that this entire 'Pedro's Will' thing seems like a weird argument to begin with. Since when was the desire of one of Neko's subordinates suddenly a trait required to rule the country, when it wasn't before? In comparison to Vivi and Yamato, Carrot really got the short end of the stick if that was it with her.

Not to mention, that not giving her a "farewell' scene with the Strawhats would be another dump on her character after all she went through with the crew. You don't have to be a "Carrot for crewmate" supporter or even like the character. But I'm sure you can see the point why some of us consider her to have been done dirty in comparison to anybody else, who bonded with the Strawhats in a similar fashion. Kinnemon, Momo and Yamato just got a 'farewell' scene. Vivi got one, Shirahoshi got one. Even Law got a brief "our allience is over" panel time. Heck, even Johnny and Yosaku got to say "farewell" in a throwaway panel. Carrot is just gone. That's kinda disappointing.

Zin Magala

I agree that Carrot’s ending is completely out of left field but it feels more like a consolation prize than a last minute subversion (I hate myself) to me. If Carrot had more panel time and development throughout Wano, I would be on that boat with you.

Ivotas

@Zin-Magala
Yep, a consolation prize is definitely what this comes across to me too. And a bad one at that. If they'd at least revive the Nox Pirates with this entire Pedro's Will thing and have Carrot sail with them, it would have been a better choice. Just making her of all people stay feels like a slap in the face. And no 'farewell my friends' just sucks.

I get what you mean about her being neglected. That's absolutely true. And I'm not saying that this is something planned by Oda to subvert expectations to throw us of with Yamato as others have suggested. Nope, my reasoning would be much simpler. Wano is a huge clusterfuck of an arc. There's so many things that Oda neglected, most prominentally Nami and Usopp. How can we expect Carrot to get more panel time in an already bloated arc, when even some of the main cast gets treated dirty?

Again, not saying that's an argument for her joining. I just find it a bit one sided to single Carrot's lack of development and panel time, when this has pretty much been something Oda has done with much more important character in the same arc.

For fairness sake, if I have to single out one thing, that I really don't like about Carrot in context with the Strawhats (and what's not really Strawhat like), then it's that somewhere during Wano she became a Chopper Cheerleader. I know we could argue that Sanji is pretty much gushing over Nami and Robin but he does so over every woman. Carrot however to have this Choniki thing going on, just throws me a bit off. Especially if we consider how the Strawhat dynamic has been in all those years.

Zin Magala

I agree with what you’re saying and Wano was indeed bloated. There is definitely a more sensible path for Carrot than Inu/Neko tossing Zou to her and saying it’s your problem now.

As bloated as Wano was, there is no excuse for Carrot’s treatment during Wano if the plan was to make her the 11th. I’m not dismissing WCI, but I can’t dismiss Wano either.

I don’t see anything wrong with continuing to hope. Carrot fans have been waiting for 4 years, you might as well ride that train till the next island.

Deicide

@Ivotas said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

Dammit! Now I got spoilered.

Don't worry, his hint was subtle enough for you to completely misinterpret it. I'd say there's 99% chance you weren't spoiled, but I had to warn him just in case.

andre

I'm hoping that Carrot shows up at some important juncture having left Zou and reformed the Nox pirates, or something of the like happens in a cover story. No matter how I look at it, even as someone who doesn't care about the character, being ruler of the country is just not satisfying in the slightest. My initial instinct was to think she'd stow aboard after the reveal of her "fate," but that doesn't feel right either to me.

Ivotas

@Zin-Magala
Absolutely understandable. I wouldn't say she was doing good until a certain point. But there's definitely a point where things went down south pretty bad and that's when she split up from Nami. Until then everything was still in the build up phase where something might still have been coming. But it never happened.

And this complaint has nothing to do with me being a Carrot supported. Fan or not, I do think that having her lose to Perospero was yet another bad move from Oda. Yes, even I get it. In a 1 on 1 she most likely wouldn't win even with Sulong. But in a team up with Wanda? Nope. Perospero even said that they had him before the moon got blocked. Making this a Neko fight out of a sudden, while he should have double teamed Jack with Inu, was just a bad creative choice on so many levels. Especially since nobody deserves to bring Perospero down more than her.

@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

@Ivotas said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

Dammit! Now I got spoilered.

Don't worry, his hint was subtle enough for you to completely misinterpret it. I'd say there's 99% chance you weren't spoiled, but I had to warn him just in case.

Knowing that a character I didn't expect to see or hear from will be referenced in the chapter pretty much did spoil it for me as I now know, that they will appear (either by name drop or by themselves). Don't worry though, stuff like this can happen. It should not but it can. Just like the apocalypse.^^

Zin Magala

@Ivotas

I’m sorry. I’ve been mindful of it all week and I can’t believe I slipped up so easily.

I’ve been lurking here for a while now and I should know better. I’ll make sure my future embarrassments will be less spoilery.

Ivotas

@Zin-Magala
Don't worry mate. It's not the end of the world.^^

danie

@Deicide Sabo is not with the rest of the revolutionaries though, Vivi was said to be missing, and Sabo was accused of assassinating her dad...In addition, Sabo has Luffy's vivre card. It just seems likely that he will bring her to Luffy.

Of course Vivi could have just gotten abducted by whoever really assassinated her dad, and Sabo is caught up in something else with Bonney or whatever.

danie

@Galleon-Panthera said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

This is all likely to end soon when Oda updates the situation of the minks and Carrot is with them all fine and dandy. I'm sure that won't stop the true believers though.

Caribou is more likely to be on the ship.

Whether Carrot joins or not, isn't my real concern anymore. I just want closure with this character. If it ends up with her being ruler, then I'm fine with it. That is really all to it. Nothing else at this point.

That is as reasonable I can get.

Yeah, I'd like closure with Carrot too. Believe it or not, I actually really like her. But overzealous fans tend to dampen my enjoyment of characters. I feel like a lot people can't enjoy a character unless they feel they will join the crew, which is kinda funny to me because I don't really care for most of the strawhat crew if I'm being honest.

I can already see it though: Carrot will get a flashback of her goodbye with some of the crew or something, and some people will claim that means Oda plans on her joining in the future.

electricmastro

@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

I agree with what you’re saying and Wano was indeed bloated. There is definitely a more sensible path for Carrot than Inu/Neko tossing Zou to her and saying it’s your problem now.

As bloated as Wano was, there is no excuse for Carrot’s treatment during Wano if the plan was to make her the 11th. I’m not dismissing WCI, but I can’t dismiss Wano either.

I don’t see anything wrong with continuing to hope. Carrot fans have been waiting for 4 years, you might as well ride that train till the next island.

I get the feeling people feel lacking on closure with quite a number of characters after how Wano turned out. It’a weird to me, because this is all after Vivi’s story, which I felt gave me plenty of closure and satisfaction despite it turning out Vivi not joining.

Zin Magala

Well Vivi is the reason why I'm all for fans going to down with their New Nakama ships. If someone can still hope that Vivi is the last crew member, I don't see anything wrong with allowing Carrot fans a few more chapters.

Ivotas

@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

@Galleon-Panthera said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

This is all likely to end soon when Oda updates the situation of the minks and Carrot is with them all fine and dandy. I'm sure that won't stop the true believers though.

Caribou is more likely to be on the ship.

Whether Carrot joins or not, isn't my real concern anymore. I just want closure with this character. If it ends up with her being ruler, then I'm fine with it. That is really all to it. Nothing else at this point.

That is as reasonable I can get.

Yeah, I'd like closure with Carrot too. Believe it or not, I actually really like her. But overzealous fans tend to dampen my enjoyment of characters. I feel like a lot people can't enjoy a character unless they feel they will join the crew, which is kinda funny to me because I don't really care for most of the strawhat crew if I'm being honest.

I can already see it though: Carrot will get a flashback of her goodbye with some of the crew or something, and some people will claim that means Oda plans on her joining in the future.

Nah, a goodbye is a goodbye. If Carrot would get 'farewell' flashback then that'd be nice because I feel that the character deserves this after what she went through with the Strawhats. But that's where the discussion about her being a Strawhat would end for me. So let me hang on the that little sliver of hope for a few more days (or hours depening whether we return to the Sunny in the next chapter or not).

electricmastro

@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):

Well Vivi is the reason why I'm all for fans going to down with their New Nakama ships. If someone can still hope that Vivi is the last crew member, I don't see anything wrong with allowing Carrot fans a few more chapters.

I think it would look pretty bad on Carrot if she turned out to be Oda’s reason Yamato didn’t join.

Even I had an easier time accepting Robin joining after Vivi didn’t because of how much closure I felt I got out of Vivi turning down the Straw Hats, not with any impression of suppressing any grander dream or anything like that, but out of genuine love for her country, whereas I didn’t feel like I had that sort of closure with Yamato, which is why I had a little trouble accepting what Yamato said, even though I had no trouble accepting what Vivi said. And somehow, I don’t think I’m alone on that either.

Shin10 Bukuro

@Zin-Magala Just to be clear, I'm not rooting for Vivi because I have some kind of special adoration for the character. Honestly, I'm not even a fan of her fighting style or her design, which I find to be bland.

It's simply a matter of trying to predict why else Oda would reintroduce her into the plot in such an...intense way. I'm interested to hear your take on why Imu has her picture alongside Luffy, Teach, and Shirahoshi...

Zin Magala

@Shin10-Bukuro I'm not bashing Vivi supporters. I'm just saying that no one should discourage anyone from riding their New Nakama dream to the end. If someone can hope for Vivi joining for this long, we should allow others to do the same for their favorites. That's all.

I'm not sure why Vivi is important to Imu. Maybe Imu sees Vivi as someone that could bring the world together against the WG. If Vivi isn't being held captive by Imu, then I feel like her focus will be on changing the WG. If she is, then there is definitely something big we don't know about yet.

If Vivi is being held in Mary Geoise, I think her being the last SH is over. I don't see the SHs going to Mary Geoise until it's go time and we're not there yet.

Deicide

I feel Vivi will be essential for the endgame, but 11th crewmate? I don't think it's her.

In-story, she will be treated as a crewmate.
But from a meta perspective, she will be more like a companion like Momo or Kin'emon.

She will not fight, at least usually, and she won't get a Blackbeard counterpart, she won't be in every full crew color spread (but she may appear in some), she won't have a ship role, and so on.

Shin10 Bukuro

@Zin-Magala I would use "Best Candidate" over the term "favorite," but yeah I get what you're saying.

@Deicide I guess the angle I'm looking at it from is that Vivi being so essential to the end-game is just odd timing considering the Strawhats also happen to need to find their final member ASAP (as in, maybe before the end of the year).

It just makes me wonder why Oda has decided to reintegrate Vivi into the plot, period. She could have just been in the background at the Reverie like Rebecca or Kureha. But Oda chose to rez her out of obscurity to then raise her to the absolute highest level one can possibly go.

Deicide

@Shin10-Bukuro Try to think at it from this angle: it won't just be Vivi. Fishman Island, Wano, maybe even Sky Piea somehow, elements from all over the series will be coming back, as the big One Piece puzzle gets closer to completion.

Vivi is one of those elements. It's a special one because she was part of the crew, so she will be part of the crew again. As the series nears its final stages, she will be with the crew for one final journey.

But I don't think she will be THE 11th crewmate. She's will be an important cog in the story but not the cog that completes the crew.

That's how I see things.