Does anyone know what the last race Big Mom doesn’t have is? We’ve got Giants, Lunarians and one more mystery race
Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
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When do you guys think Urouge and Bonney will get time to shine? All the other Supernovas have had chances, there the only two so far who haven’t met up with the Straw Hats post time skip….. I think :wassat:
And what do you think they’ll do?
I honestly don't know how Urogue is playing into this. He's the only one I'm not sure about but I guess it will be wheneer Enel or Sky Islands become relevant again.
Bonney on the other hand will definitley play a role in the arc Vegapunk get's introduced given her connection to Kuma and her ability to turn people into children might come in handy for sneaking into Vegapunks Lab (as he is currently working to remove Caesar's gigantification on the Punk Hazard kids).
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Urouge has drama with the Charlottes so when/if that becomes a deal at Elbaf, he's in like Flynn.
Urouge being Urouge has the easiest role of any Supernova. Oda can drop him in from the sky wherever and whenever he wants.The Supernovas are really just highly dramatized and plot-centric Franky Family/Rebel Army/Cocoyashi Townspeople/Chefs.
Oda can drop 'em in when/where he wants in order to help move his story and make it more interesting.
We know that Bilkans (Birkas w/e), Skypieans, Shandians, and very very very very very likely Lunarians (Unless Lunarians are ironically the face below on the ruin artowrk) all came from the moon and Bilkans seem like they may be (genetically) the closest to them so if Urouge has any knowledge of that it would be interesting but also surprising considering you think he'd be more actively pursued but then again…Nika fruit lololol
BTW...has Urouge's fruit been publicly revealed yet? I don't think so, right? If not don't wanna bring any of that stuff up.
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I thought Apoo was going to figure out to join the alliance because he invaded Totto Land as well, so it was kinda awkward that Perospero and BM were around but they didnt even seen Apoo there.
Also, Urouge is totally Team-Teach, he's chosen the right side.
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Until I rewatched Sabaody recently with my fiance, I had completely forgotten that Urouge even had a Devil Fruit power….
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All Supernova will eventually 'support' Luffy in their own way. Vol51 cover telegraphed that. Though I don't disagree that he could temporarily be on another side. That's pretty much always been a given. Law is the rare case here though Bonney may change that.
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Do you think Bonney will have developed another fighting style to deal with haki users?
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Bonney is the biggest wildcard in the series. While she's obviously aligned to be an 'ally' as telegraphed in her interaction with Zoro (ie. we were shown she exhibits selfless ((albeit ornery)) kindness for strangers). But whether she'll fight or simply is good enough to avoid fighting/control any situation remains to be seen. I do think, however, she's very close to a Nika fruit in that what she knows is so dangerous, the government doesn't want to draw attention to her.
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It ll be better if some join the right side, aka Marshall D Teach.
Urouge has shown interest in Teach and Kidd's not the type who doesnt avenge his limbs, he'll find a common interest with Teach, known as 'there can only be one red-hair in this sea'.
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Hi Greg, I have a question. Someone in the comments of a theory video I released recently about Kaidoo asked me this question and I'm not entirely sure the answer.
In chapter 999, Stephen translated Big Mom's line to read: "I gave you that legendary model of the Fish-Fish Fruit!"
However, in other instances (like 1020, 1044, etc.), Stephen has used the word mythical rather than legendary. In chapter 1020 for example, Kaido says "The Dog-Dog Fruit Mythical Type Okuchi no Makami"
My question, is there an actual difference in distinction / classification between Legendary and Mythical?
I asked a friend of mine with the Japanese volumes to send me a picture of those two panels and they look like the same word in Japanese (幻獣種 Zōn-kei Genjūshu). But, I don't know the language, so I'm just not sure.
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Greg do you think that if Kaido doesn’t show awakening it will be major BS from Odas part after Kaidos in this chapter ?
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With Bonney, all I want to see is her using her power on Brook. Can she temporarily give him his flesh back ?
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With Bonney, all I want to see is her using her power on Brook. Can she temporarily give him his flesh back ?
Why would Oda ruin such a great character as Brook by making him human again? The skeleton is part of his personality.
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Why would Oda ruin such a great character as Brook by making him human again? The skeleton is part of his personality.
If something like this was really possible, it would definitely be something that's effective for a few moments. How would that ruin his character?
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If something like this was really possible, it would definitely be something that's effective for a few moments. How would that ruin his character?
For gag purposes, and one occasion it would be ok, but for me a permanent change would kinda make him not that funny anymore. His whole repertoire of jokes are about him being a skeleton.
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For gag purposes, and one occasion it would be ok, but for me a permanent change would kinda make him not that funny anymore. His whole repertoire of jokes are about him being a skeleton.
I don't think such a scenario would be anything else but a gag thing. I don't even know if Bonney can permanently change the age of anyone.
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I think some databook said that Urouge's fruit allows him to turn pain into strenght. Maybe I'm headcanoning it.
Bonney is a Supernova I really want to know more, she seems to be ripe with possibilities…
As a group, I'm a bit saddened that Hawkins feels a bit downplayed even with ton of screentime (his powers could easily put him in a major antagonistic position) and Drake and Apoo still feel like B-characters - so I'm hoping Oda will expand on them by the end of the arc (I mean Apoo is entertaining as hell, I hope he worms his way out of anything and just appears to be obnoxious until the very end). Killer, Kid, Law, Zoro, Luffy and Bege are good on my book. -
I don't even know if Bonney can permanently change the age of anyone.
I doubt it, given how little interest the government or Doflamingo had in it.
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Surely Urouge’s fruit is the Karma Karma fruit. Fits his Monk theme perfectly. Bad thing happens to him- he’s attacked- then gets balanced by a good thing- it buffs him.
The vice versa will be an interesting balance as well.
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I doubt it, given how little interest the government or Doflamingo had in it.
I'd be surprised if Akainu's interest in her had absolutely nothing to do with her Devil Fruit. In my mind, either they wanted her power, or Bonney is a lot older than we think and she knows things she shouldn't as a result.
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I'd be surprised if Akainu's interest in her had absolutely nothing to do with her Devil Fruit. In my mind, either they wanted her power, or Bonney is a lot older than we think and she knows things she shouldn't as a result.
Possibly because she is royalty. In her Marijois invasion it was implied she was related to Sorbet Kingdom's royal family
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I think some databook said that Urouge's fruit allows him to turn pain into strenght.
He was confirmed a user in DEEP BLUE but as for how the fruit works I don't recall whether there's been any specific clarification. I checked the wiki and the only thing it sources is DEEP BLUE which iirc only made clear that he was a User.
The wiki goes on to detail the power of the fruit but I can't remember that being publicly mentioned anywhere. Not saying it's right (or wrong) but I'm just wondering if that bit of info was revealed or whether that's conjecture on their part.
or Bonney is a lot older than we think and she knows things she shouldn't as a result.
That's my take!
Re: Brook/Bonney
Bonney seems to have the superior version of Ain's fruit. If that's the case, changing Brook would not mean any kind of time travel, it would just make his bones (and roots lol) 'younger'.
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He was confirmed a user in DEEP BLUE but as for how the fruit works I don't recall whether there's been any specific clarification. I checked the wiki and the only thing it sources is DEEP BLUE which iirc only made clear that he was a User.
The wiki goes on to detail the power of the fruit but I can't remember that being publicly mentioned anywhere. Not saying it's right (or wrong) but I'm just wondering if that bit of info was revealed or whether that's conjecture on their part.
It's educated conjecture based on his dialogue and move name (Karma Retribution).
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Greg, now that we've seen Luffy's devil fruit awakening, do you think Oda will eventually do the same for Chopper, Robin, and Brook?
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Greg, what do you think about the increased focus on Raizo?
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I am just curious:
If I may ask, Greg, do you have an vague idea how much of the Wano arc is left based on what Oda and his editors are potentially up to?
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It's educated conjecture based on his dialogue and move name (Karma Retribution).
Ah, thought so. In that case. No comment
Greg, now that we've seen Luffy's devil fruit awakening, do you think Oda will eventually do the same for Chopper, Robin, and Brook?
I think there's an argument to be made that we've seen the results of both being awakened.
If the Impel Down guards are truly awakened, their resemblance to Chopper's monster form is uncanny so it's possible that Chopper has been performing an awakened doping this entire time.
As for Robin, it's not necessarily an argument I buy but while I can confirm that Robin's giant forms are most definitely composed of smaller body parts, I'm not entirely sure about the smaller copies of herself that she can make. The argument is certainly there for suggesting she creates the illusion of clothing on a smaller scale via varies body parts and pigments, but then the question becomes, why doesn't she for larger forms? Or if she can't do it for larger forms because it's too taxing, then why bother doing it for smaller forms? In that case do clothes magically appear on her because of the magic of clothing and Devil Fruits? Well…then why don't they appear on her larger form?
While all valid questions, they're not really important and I can almost guarantee that there aren't clothes on giant Robin because...Oda doesn't wanna draw 'em. That's what it boils down to.
So, if that's actual clothing on small copy Robin, and it's not just DF magic, then it could mean she's duplicating her clothing which would very much be an Awakening trait.
I think it's all a matter of convenience/preference on Oda's part so I don't feel particularly strong about it one way or the other.
So with that frame of reference, if Robin is not Awakened, I feel very much that a conflict with San Juan Wolf would be the perfect spot for it so yes, I do think he will explore (or expand) it.
Greg, what do you think about the increased focus on Raizo?
Not much, it's par for course for any given arc. Raizo is fulfilling the role of containing an element of 'chaos'. There are always characters who take on these roles. Who it is isn't always necessarily important so long as someone does it.
In this case, I do think Oda had planned out Raizo's use from fairly early on in the stream of events. I think when the fire started he knew it would be a large element of chaos and it needed to be dealt with and he knew that Raizo would be perfect to deal with it so he just needed to keep him in the game until then.
Sometimes, in arcs where chaos resolution hasn't been solved in advance, Oda can pick and chose basically anyone from his grab bag of goodies to fulfill the objective so long as it feels right in the moment. This is why we got Gatz carrying Luffy through the town. Luffy was separated and weak. Oda needed to get him safely from Point A to Point B, at the time, Gatz felt best and most appropriate for the story to fulfill that role and express self-sacrifice so I bet that's why Oda chose him.
Here, it's the same exact thing, except I'm almost certain Oda planned to have Raizo be the resolution in advance.
So, business as usual in One Piece.
If I may ask, Greg, do you have an vague idea how much of the Wano arc is left based on what Oda and his editors are potentially up to?
As far as inside info I don't have any info on how long Wano has left and I definitely don't want it ^O^ Aside from a few other things like the role Elbaf will/won't play and whether or not Pudding/Streussen are as important as I think they are, it's one of the few mysteries left for me.
I think as soon as the Momonosuke starts to show true spine, we'll see the fighting start to wrap. But then we'll have the chaos of a falling island.
UNLESS…Oda wraps both of those up simultaneously. If he does that, I'll be amazed. And I don't mean that I don't think he can. I literally mean, that would be a very difficult way to wrap the story in a satisfying way.
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Greg do you think there’s a chance that the two strangers in the cover story are Black Beard Pirate members? And if so, and there’s only two of them does that mean we can look forward to seeing other Black Beard members raising hell across the world, to really build them up as the next big threat?
Or is there any chance the two are Pedro and Pekoms
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It's educated conjecture based on his dialogue and move name (Karma Retribution).
Ah, thought so. In that case. No comment
Greg, now that we've seen Luffy's devil fruit awakening, do you think Oda will eventually do the same for Chopper, Robin, and Brook?
I think there's an argument to be made that we've seen the results of both being awakened.
If the Impel Down guards are truly awakened, their resemblance to Chopper's monster form is uncanny so it's possible that Chopper has been performing an awakened doping this entire time.
As for Robin, it's not necessarily an argument I buy but while I can confirm that Robin's giant forms are most definitely composed of smaller body parts, I'm not entirely sure about the smaller copies of herself that she can make. The argument is certainly there for suggesting she creates the illusion of clothing on a smaller scale via varies body parts and pigments, but then the question becomes, why doesn't she for larger forms? Or if she can't do it for larger forms because it's too taxing, then why bother doing it for smaller forms? In that case do clothes magically appear on her because of the magic of clothing and Devil Fruits? Well…then why don't they appear on her larger form?
While all valid questions, they're not really important and I can almost guarantee that there aren't clothes on giant Robin because...Oda doesn't wanna draw 'em. That's what it boils down to.
So, if that's actual clothing on small copy Robin, and it's not just DF magic, then it could mean she's duplicating her clothing which would very much be an Awakening trait.
I think it's all a matter of convenience/preference on Oda's part so I don't feel particularly strong about it one way or the other.
So with that frame of reference, if Robin is not Awakened, I feel very much that a conflict with San Juan Wolf would be the perfect spot for it so yes, I do think he will explore (or expand) it.
Greg, what do you think about the increased focus on Raizo?
Not much, it's par for course for any given arc. Raizo is fulfilling the role of containing an element of 'chaos'. There are always characters who take on these roles. Who it is isn't always necessarily important so long as someone does it.
In this case, I do think Oda had planned out Raizo's use from fairly early on in the stream of events. I think when the fire started he knew it would be a large element of chaos and it needed to be dealt with and he knew that Raizo would be perfect to deal with it so he just needed to keep him in the game until then.
Sometimes, in arcs where chaos resolution hasn't been solved in advance, Oda can pick and chose basically anyone from his grab bag of goodies to fulfill the objective so long as it feels right in the moment. This is why we got Gatz carrying Luffy through the town. Luffy was separated and weak. Oda needed to get him safely from Point A to Point B, at the time, Gatz felt best and most appropriate for the story to fulfill that role and express self-sacrifice so I bet that's why Oda chose him.
Here, it's the same exact thing, except I'm almost certain Oda planned to have Raizo be the resolution in advance.
So, business as usual in One Piece.
If I may ask, Greg, do you have an vague idea how much of the Wano arc is left based on what Oda and his editors are potentially up to?
As far as inside info I don't have any info on how long Wano has left and I definitely don't want it ^O^ Aside from a few other things like the role Elbaf will/won't play and whether or not Pudding/Streussen are as important as I think they are, it's one of the few mysteries left for me.
I think as soon as the Momonosuke starts to show true spine, we'll see the fighting start to wrap. But then we'll have the chaos of a falling island.
UNLESS…Oda wraps both of those up simultaneously. If he does that, I'll be amazed. And I don't mean that I don't think he can. I literally mean, that would be a very difficult way to wrap the story in a satisfying way.
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This is probably a tinfoil head theory, but what if the island falls but Momo gets his moment regardless?
People gonna witness a Kozuki saving them and by him holding up Onigashima, he gives them enough time to escape.
I wonder if Oda made a giant hole below Onigashima intentionally so that the giant tree with the castle (that contains the Poneglyph and the weird dolls) can slip through with no damage.
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I think Momo's desperate attempt will be noticed by Wano people , but he will fail. Luffy will turn it to rubber and lessen the impact mostly. May be we will see it sitting atop the castle.
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I’m probably beating a dead horse with this but I am very curious as to what Oda is planning with Weevil and if he actually still remembers him.
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I’m probably beating a dead horse with this but I am very curious as to what Oda is planning with Weevil and if he actually still remembers him.
I bet he is a failed clone of Whitebeard.
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I hope he's legit just the result of a horrible one night stand with Bakkin. It'd be too amusing.
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Thank you Greg. Btw any words about Yamato being a Sake Brewer and the crew needing to steal booze to celebrate Jinbe coming back.
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I’m probably beating a dead horse with this but I am very curious as to what Oda is planning with Weevil and if he actually still remembers him.
He is playing cards with Denjiro until the plot needs them again.
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With Bonney, all I want to see is her using her power on Brook. Can she temporarily give him his flesh back ?
We've had this gag in Film Z, likely no
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Have we seen a devil fruit that can do illusions? I guess nami kind of has that except so far we’ve only seen her make illusions of herself
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Have we seen a devil fruit that can do illusions? I guess nami kind of has that except so far we’ve only seen her make illusions of herself
Non-canon, but Ann from Stampede has that fruit.
While not in canon, but there's a bunch that have some illusive effects. Copying appearances of other people (Bon-chan, Brulee, Catarina), molding appearances out of whatever (Mr 3, Kanjuro), and Kizaru has control over light so he should technically be able to make em.
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Imagine if his outfit or weapon ate Cora's fruit.
Or what if his fruit is the superior class version of corazon's fruit, just like Baby5 and Daz Bones, and with awakening he can conceal both the sound and himself with invisibility.
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Greg did you ever say what you thought happened to Vivi?
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I haven't given it too much thought for a few reasons.
1.Oda admitted a few years back in his Manga is a Wonderland series of tidbits that Vivi was tagged onto the story. This means he's had to figure out how to place her in the larger story, rather than having an idea for her from the start. Even if her role is taking the place of something/someone else he had in mind, he's still fitting her to the story rather than the other way around so I'm not trying to think too hard on her situation.
2. Since seeing Imu have something with her and the fact that the Nefertali (sp?) family opted out of Celestial status AAAAAND her striking resemblance to her mother (which even though Cobra may have married outside established royalty, Oda can still fit that into place) I've always imagined that Imu's thing is less with Vivi proper, but maybe the Nefertali (sp?) lineage in general and she's going to bear the brunt of Imu's infatuation/revenge/whatever.
I think this chap finally helps me understand how this will all conclude. I could TOTALLY be off on this, but not since Leo has this type of resolution felt so on point.(lol and I was totally wrong about Leo)
Luffy will eventually trounce Kaido (not saying next chap necessarily) and Kaido might even be KO'd which would give us our falling island dilemma we needed. This gives Momo and/or Zunisha (sp) the opportunity to save the island. Now…even if that's where team Momotarou stops, I suppose it checked off enough boxes along the way among the team to have fulfilled the story, but....I simply cannot imagine Oda leaves Momo without the chance to strike Kaido. (Same for Leo...so...lol)
His declaration that he wanted to beat him, along with his character/family/history require that moment.
After Kaido is KO'd I fully expect him to return messed up in the Flower Capital SOON after the island resolution. Not talking chapters down the line, I mean just about when everyone is ready to finally relax and Luffy has effectively been disabled.
At this time, in front of the people in Wano, I think Kaido's injuries and the mental link when he sees adult Momo looking similar to Oden are what he'll finally need to get some peace of mind and be struck down with 'sunacchi'. Not killed, just struck down. Yams and Marco being involved would be chef's kiss. More for Yams though than Marco.
For Momo's right to rule, he really needs to do that. As Momo is now, even if he saves the island, it's not enough for him to take the seat of shogun if he doesn't do what his father did.
The only way I see Oda working around that is if he gives Momo some chance to show self-sacrifice MUCH later in the story on an even more grand scale but…my God Oda, if you don't take this opportunity to wrap this chapter of his story here, what're you doin buddy?
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but not since Leo has this type of resolution felt so on point.(lol and I was totally wrong about Leo)
Just curiosity, but what did you expect from Leo?
(As for Momo, I don't expect him to strike down Kaido, but I feel he will literally carry Onigashima himself rather than using flame clouds, in a paralel to the metaphor of him "carrying Wano on his shoulders". Like, I think he will wrap his body around Onigashima's bottom and hold it up with pure strength of will.)
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Leo's people were enslaved by the Doflamingo lineage historically and in modern times so he was ripe for giving Mingo what for at some point. What's more, Leo, of all people, has what is very likely Mingo's fruit's weakness.
Mingo is strings but Leo can sew anything. He was perfectly set up to make Mingo defenseless when it was most needed at some dramatic turn.
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I'm still of the opinion that Hiyori is the secret pheasant and Marco's been a red herring. She fits the thematic ties so much more cleanly and she has a bird all over her outfits. Her, Momo, and Yamato (all sort of children of Oden) being part of the Momotaro group makes so much more sense to me thematically than just… random guy with a bird transformation with no real connection to the arc.
Same way Dogstorm being the dog was just... there. Like yeah he fits the role but not really?
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So Greg no Kaido flashback and awakening ? We got Orochi and Kanjuro resurrecting 10 times but no Kaido flashback ? Oda with his priorities again…
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So Greg no Kaido flashback and awakening ? We got Orochi and Kanjuro resurrecting 10 times but no Kaido flashback ? Oda with his priorities again…
The arc isn't over yet. Unless you think the next hit is actually the finisher, but there's very little to indicate that dramatically speaking.
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The arc isn't over yet. Unless you think the next hit is actually the finisher, but there's very little to indicate that dramatically speaking.
I think it’s pretty clear it’s the end. Kaido pulled his last attacks and they weren’t enough. Now it’s Luffys time for the finisher.
Also how is Oda supposed to include those things at the moment when the fight is on its climax ?
That joy boy has returned chapter really hurt the climax of the arc
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I'm thinking if there's a Kaido flashback it'll be after he's beaten, maybe as he falls, like King's mini one. Just feels more obvious than drawing out the pace of the fight even further at this late stage.
That, or it happens as the final blow comes in and ends with a hard cut back to the present as Kaido is annihilated, like what Chopper's flashback did with the first hit of the Wapol fight.
Not sure why there's so much certainty that a flashback is incompatible with the fight actually ending.