Volume 100 Predictions/Discussion
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Quite the cover too.
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Three months from volume 99 would have been September 4. They're really drawing these things out, huh? If October is the earliest start of month release window, we might not even get volume 101 this year. I hope that's not the case.
Also, being from a country that rounds the seasons down to the nearest month, it's absolutely wild to see that autumn starts on the 22nd for Japan. How do you people remember that?
Anyway, the volume should go to chapter 1014 and "Colour of the Conqueror" or however it was worded is the only thing that really stands out as a title.
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Also, being from a country that rounds the seasons down to the nearest month, it's absolutely wild to see that autumn starts on the 22nd for Japan. How do you people remember that?
It seems they primarily use the astronomical seasons which are based on the solstices and equinoxes, we learned those dates in school
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The Promotional page for Volume 100, set to release in Fall (Probably on October).
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Detective Conan Volume 100 set to release on Fall 2021 !
He wants a Dialogue or interview with Eiichiro Oda, so it can happen.. someday..:wub:
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It seems they primarily use the astronomical seasons which are based on the solstices and equinoxes, we learned those dates in school
It makes sense it'd stick after being reinforced all through schooling, and it's probably a lot more accurate than the Australian system as well (winter weather was definitely a couple weeks ahead of the official start date this year and most others, for example). It just always surprises me when it pops up.
I probably sound like an American being all 'oh right you guys use the metric system' right now.
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An interview between Oda and Aoyama would be sick!
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The Promotional page for Volume 100, set to release in Fall (Probably on October).
https://i.imgur.com/0M6LNeK.png
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Detective Conan Volume 100 set to release on Fall 2021 !
He wants a Dialogue or interview with Eiichiro Oda, so it can happen.. someday..:wub:
Actually, in light of some people criticizing One Piece for being too long, I wonder how often Detective Conan is brought up, because regardless of length and how Detective Conan has been going on longer than One Piece, I almost never see Detective Conan casually brought up in manga/anime forums and chats.
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Actually, in light of some people criticizing One Piece for being too long, I wonder how often Detective Conan is brought up, because regardless of length and how Detective Conan has been going on longer than One Piece, I almost never see Detective Conan casually brought up in manga/anime forums and chats.
I haven't read anything beyond the first volume of Conan (and even then, _read_ is a stretch), but isn't it even worse than One Piece in terms of prospective length? Like, we can kinda see the path to the finish line after the current arc, but I heard Conan's made next to no progress toward it's central mysteries in a long time.
I guess it just never got big enough in the west for people to think about it like they do One Piece. There's not enough investment for the complaints to surface.
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I haven't read anything beyond the first volume of Conan (and even then, _read_ is a stretch), but isn't it even worse than One Piece in terms of prospective length? Like, we can kinda see the path to the finish line after the current arc, but I heard Conan's made next to no progress toward it's central mysteries in a long time.
I guess it just never got big enough in the west for people to think about it like they do One Piece. There's not enough investment for the complaints to surface.
From what I understand, Aoyama doesn’t really use arcs, or at least not in a way that continuously builds on the same foundation, and more or less makes things up as he goes along, if not, focuses on whatever is going on in the moment. Not that series which are over 100 volumes long need to have detailed arcs in order to be worth reading, though honestly, I really don’t think many people would be more inclined to read through the entire series if they didn’t find it as fulfilling. Oda at least sets up his series in a way which feels more fulfilling to read through from start to finish, with how often he calls back to previous chapters and builds up towards something bigger in the process.
Basically, I think more people would better help themselves to ask how fulfilling a series is rather than how long it is, because buying more than 100 volumes and having all the time to read through them all honestly might be asking for a bit much no matter what.
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From what I understand, Aoyama doesn’t really use arcs, or at least not in a way that continuously builds on the same foundation, and more or less makes things up as he goes along, if not, focuses on whatever is going on in the moment. Not that series which are over 100 volumes long need to have detailed arcs in order to be worth reading, though honestly, I really don’t think many people would be more inclined to read through the entire series if they didn’t find it as fulfilling. Oda at least sets up his series in a way which feels more fulfilling to read through from start to finish, with how often he calls back to previous chapters and builds up towards something bigger in the process.
Basically, I think more people would better help themselves to ask how fulfilling a series is rather than how long it is, because buying more than 100 volumes and having all the time to read through them all honestly might be asking for a bit much no matter what.
I figured Conan wouldn't have a super serialised ongoing plot like One Piece, but my impression of it is that the people behind Conan being turned into a child are a going concern, and Aoyama doesn't circle back to them very often. But that's mostly what I've picked up second and third hand, so I could be way off.
I definitely agree with the fulfillment point. 100 volumes of mostly case of the week/month doesn't have the same appeal to me as an equally long absurdist fantasy epic where a million previously separate plot threads come together at the end. I love the idea that it's all important, even if I didn't know how or why the first time I read it. That's what makes One Piece and any number of other big fantasy series feel worth the amount of time I spend on them.
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I haven't read anything beyond the first volume of Conan (and even then, _read_ is a stretch), but isn't it even worse than One Piece in terms of prospective length? Like, we can kinda see the path to the finish line after the current arc, but I heard Conan's made next to no progress toward it's central mysteries in a long time.
The series is all about little mysteries, it doesn't actually worry about the mega plot much but its dropped some clues along the way..
If the author decides he's done he can easily have Conan discover one more clue and pull it all together and wrap up very quickly when he's ready. It doesn't have a million loose ends like OP does, it has ONE loose end that matters.
Find the clue that leads to the bad guys base, call the cops, one dramatic finale.
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The series is all about little mysteries, it doesn't actually worry about the mega plot much but its dropped some clues along the way..
If the author decides he's done he can easily have Conan discover one more clue and pull it all together and wrap up very quickly when he's ready. It doesn't have a million loose ends like OP does, it has ONE loose end that matters.
Find the clue that leads to the bad guys base, call the cops, one dramatic finale.
That tracks with my impression of it. I'm sure that method has its advantages, like not having to worry about the author getting too old or too bored with the story to deliver a proper ending, given it could be wrapped up any time. Plus, it'd be a hell of a lot easier for a new reader to pick up than One Piece is at this point.
But for a long form story, I definitely prefer seeing a lot of balls in the air and being able to wonder how they're all going to be brought together by the ending.
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That tracks with my impression of it. I'm sure that method has its advantages, like not having to worry about the author getting too old or too bored with the story to deliver a proper ending, given it could be wrapped up any time. Plus, it'd be a hell of a lot easier for a new reader to pick up than One Piece is at this point.
But for a long form story, I definitely prefer seeing a lot of balls in the air and being able to wonder how they're all going to be brought together by the ending.
Yeah, though it makes me wonder at what point one decides one doesn’t have to bother with more volumes if buying and reading one volume doesn’t bring any more enjoyment in comparison to buying and reading 100 volumes.
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Yeah, though it makes me wonder at what point one decides one doesn’t have to bother with more volumes if buying and reading one volume doesn’t bring any more enjoyment in comparison to buying and reading 100 volumes.
I'm sure the appeal is exactly that it is doing the same thing for hundreds of volumes. There's a comfort food factor in a good formula that's always got a new take coming out every other week. I doubt anyone reading reading it has hopes of it turning into a One Piece kind of thing and try to build elements of every previous case into its endgame. It doesn't appeal to me personally, or inspire me much to make the time investment it would take to get up to date, but I can see why it'd develop enough of a fanbase to last so long.
If nothing else, Aoyama was a pretty fantastic visual storyteller in the handful of chapters I saw. You don't need to read any of the dialogue to have a strong impression of who the main characters are and how they interact with each other. The personality is all right there in the art. Oda's got a pretty similar talent in that area, so I can see Aoyama would be a fan (and I wouldn't be surprised if it was mutual).
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I think Detective Conan is ideal for newcomers, because you can truly jump into the series whenever you want and you should be ok, but not so great for long time fans because it just basically stops developing its main plot and the relationships between the characters from a certain point onwards, and all the weekly cases start getting really repetitive. So it just becomes a bit of a bore if you really want to read all the volumes and its very enticing to just specifically check out the storylines that actually advance the main plot.
One Piece to me is the exact opposite. While you can theoretically jump in at any point too, the series is simply most rewarding if you have read it at all. Pretty much every arc brings something tto the table, be it iconic secondary characters, memorable dramatic or funny moments or badass action scenes, so you are missing out in some way or other if you skip any arc. That obviously makes it pretty daunting for new readers, but it's also much more effective and succesful at creating long-term passionate and loyal fans, I would think.
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I think Detective Conan is ideal for newcomers, because you can truly jump into the series whenever you want and you should be ok, but not so great for long time fans because it just basically stops developing its main plot and the relationships between the characters from a certain point onwards, and all the weekly cases start getting really repetitive. So it just becomes a bit of a bore if you really want to read all the volumes and its very enticing to just specifically check out the storylines that actually advance the main plot.
One Piece to me is the exact opposite. While you can theoretically jump in at any point too, the series is simply most rewarding if you have read it at all. Pretty much every arc brings something tto the table, be it iconic secondary characters, memorable dramatic or funny moments or badass action scenes, so you are missing out in some way or other if you skip any arc. That obviously makes it pretty daunting for new readers, but it's also much more effective and succesful at creating long-term passionate and loyal fans, I would think.
Second paragraph absolutely nails what I love about One Piece. The continuity is what makes it work.
My favourite readthrough of the series wasn't the first one but the second one, when I was catching all kinds of connections and foreshadowing that went way over my head the first time around.
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Conan's about a bishonen turned Pup Named Scooby Doo going full Sherlock Holmes solving murder mysteries, I would imagine girls alone will fund that forever. That mountain villa episode that aired on adult swim back in the day messed me up.
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Detective Conan is your typical weekly procedural like NCIS etc. Build to to on forever and can be wrapped up at any point. I was a big fan back in my teen days, but kinda fell off of it. Would like to read all of it, but something tells me with so many volumes Aoyama can‘t possibly do anything else than recycling similar murder mysteries just with different characters all the time.
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Detective Conan is your typical weekly procedural like NCIS etc. Build to to on forever and can be wrapped up at any point. I was a big fan back in my teen days, but kinda fell off of it. Would like to read all of it, but something tells me with so many volumes Aoyama can‘t possibly do anything else than recycling similar murder mysteries just with different characters all the time.
Same here, kinda hoped to see an ending or at least progression with the main plot, but i guess i have to wait way longer for it than i hoped.
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I've seen that Jojo's Bizarre Adventure has gone over 100 volumes since 1987, with over 950 chapters. Not sure how often people complain about that series being too long either.
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Am I the only one who’s sad that we’re not getting a Villain cover only volume for the beast pirates?
I mean this triple cover volume spread is definitely awesome, just wish we could get the villain cover too
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I've seen that Jojo's Bizarre Adventure has gone over 100 volumes since 1987, with over 950 chapters. Not sure how often people complain about that series being too long either.
Jojo probably gets a pass because each part is almost standalone enough to feel like it's own work with a distinct beginning, middle and end, while being long enough to feel developed and substantial. Araki could have been an author with eight published series, but he decided to make them all part of the same world/family history instead. Which was probably a smart move in terms of shonen audience retention, compared to other authors trying to come back after their first success. Also means the series gets to be an everlasting cash cow like the editors want without stretching out the story or avoid reaching conclusions in any way that makes it worse.
I'm sure some still do complain, but the series has made some legitimately ingenious moves to keep itself from developing the issues and complaints other super long-runners see.
Am I the only one who’s sad that we’re not getting a Villain cover only volume for the beast pirates?
I mean this triple cover volume spread is definitely awesome, just wish we could get the villain cover too
At least we got the villains colour spread instead. Give it time, I'm sure someone will made an edit to squash it into volume cover dimensions for a what-could-have-been cover.
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Quite the cover too.
https://i.ibb.co/B4CjchR/37-B314-C5-4-DED-4974-90-D8-02-ECF2-CD185-A.jpg
Thank goodness, I was really hoping for a huge Luffy feature.
Could've been a better cover, it is volume 100, but still, great cover from what I can tell so far. Now I can finally get my expectations back to normal. For my money, Oda mostly delivered with volume 100. A few slow chapters but also a lot of bangers, and most importantly bangers with series-wide implications.
Croc or Enel would never.Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.
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I've seen that Jojo's Bizarre Adventure has gone over 100 volumes since 1987, with over 950 chapters. Not sure how often people complain about that series being too long either.
Jojo is 8 different stories that are all 5-25 volumes long, between three and five years, with only a little connective tissue between them. Especially after part 3.
If you're just interested in one given Jojo story, you only need to get a small chunk of it and you're fine.
No one complains about it being long because it isn't. Its basically an anthology from one author. Which serves to give it name recognition and keep momentum even when he takes a chance on something new and crazy.
It's kind of like how all of Johji Manabe's works are one big connected universe, but no one thinks Outlanders is 80 volumes long… even though Caravan Kidd and Drakuun and Capricorn and Rai are all part of the same tapestry.
I could use other examples but I like mentioning Manabe, he's my favorite manga creator and its a crime he isn't bigger than he is. (I am in no way saying he's the best, or that made the best stories, or the best characters, he did not, but for overall story flow and humor and art he's my fave.)
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Who is Manabe? Never seen that name come up in any forum I have been to.
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I haven't read anything beyond the first volume of Conan (and even then, _read_ is a stretch), but isn't it even worse than One Piece in terms of prospective length? Like, we can kinda see the path to the finish line after the current arc, but I heard Conan's made next to no progress toward it's central mysteries in a long time.
I guess it just never got big enough in the west for people to think about it like they do One Piece. There's not enough investment for the complaints to surface.
I read 40 volumes of it (because I love mystery stories and can read even the most mediocre ones) and Conan has a "plot" if you want to call it but yes, there have been very little to no progress in the main plot while the focus of the series is murder mysteries or crime mysteries and stuff like that with lots of them being "short" while there are ones that are a bit longer like maybe a volume or half a volume long.
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Who is Manabe? Never seen that name come up in any forum I have been to.
Probably because its old and predates any current community.
Johji Manabe. He's best known for Outlanders which he did from 85-87, which had a short OVA 30 years ago. (45 minutes to cover 1000 pages so its a pretty bad representation.)
His longest project was Ginga Sengoku Gun'yūden Rai, from 93-01, which was 27 volume and had a 52 episode anime,
Dark Horse published a bunch of his books around 95-98, as comics and then as trades, still in full comic books size, BEFORE the big anime/manga boom, and when the internet was still starting, so it failed to find a big audience. (And they never quite finished releasing one of the series) . So he basically predates fandoms making everything available with scanlations and subs by just a few years. It's impossible to find a good sub of Rai, only a chinese bootleg translating it two times over.
He mostly did big sci fi epics with organic spaceships and the premise was generally "shmuck meets warrior girls in bikini and they fall in love" and had samurai and animal people secondary characters. Right up my alley and I love his art.
He's still doing stuff, but since he never found big success he's mostly moved onto doing much easier pornier stuff, which is fine but a shame. He deserved to be a lot bigger than he was.
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A lot of things on the internet make me feel old these days. This post was the first thing in a while to make me think about how young I actually am instead, so thanks for that.
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Hajime no Ippo too is pretty long isn't it
Thank goodness, I was really hoping for a huge Luffy feature.
Could've been a better cover, it is volume 100, but still, great cover from what I can tell so far. Now I can finally get my expectations back to normal. For my money, Oda mostly delivered with volume 100. A few slow chapters but also a lot of bangers, and most importantly bangers with series-wide implications.
It had some bang chapters mixed with some meh ones. It ends with a bang in the form of chapter 1014 like Mr. Captain M predicted although there was a miscuculation as it's title (Life's Lousy Actor) is not fit to name the volume. So many chapter's titles this volume were just reference to specific characters.
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One Piece Volume 100 will release on 03 of Sept !
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All this back and forth over the Autumn release and it ends up in the three-month-later September slot anyway lmao
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Next Week
In issue 33-34, They will start commemorative project for 100th Volume !
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Oh good, I was hoping they would hype it up like they did chapter 1000; it's just as big a milestone.
Wonder if we'll get an earlier-than-usual reveal of the completed cover…
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Eiichiro Oda said in his last ToC message that "he's currently doing a campaign to thank everyone".
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According to the latest Jump News,
A collaboration between One Piece x JAXA (Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency) and the straw hats are going to the International Space Station to celebrate 100th Volume !
-Departure on 7th Aug.
-Live stream from International Space Station on 3rd Sept !Here the Jump cover for this week, its One Piece x JAXA !
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I don't know what kind of vol 100 celebrations I was expecting, but a space flight was not part of it.
I was just thinking recently that for such a big milestone, 100 isn't really set to have anything special or commemorative in its pages. Chapter 1000 and the WT100 results were both in volume 99, and the 50-character poll spread is set to be in volume 101. Hopefully the space thing gives them something unique to put in the endpages.
They could use the Where's Wally thing as well maybe, but given it's only just now being shown, it might be a volume 101 thing, if it makes it into a volume at all.
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Chapters 1,005 to 1,014, most likely.
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Here is the website of One Piece x JAXA Collab
https://onepiece100we-are-one.com (open on Sunday midnight).
also, Hashtag on Twitter: #WeAreONE
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One Piece x JAXA Poster !
The website already opened.
More, One Piece Exceed 490 Million copies worldwide ! 400 million copies in JAPAN, 90 million copies worldwide.
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We still have 2 more projects and will reveal in near future.
Luffy in the space
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I like the art that shows Luffy saluting on a sea of stars. It seems very fitting.
I imagine vol.100 is going to sell like crazy given its a milestone volume and Shueisha will give it a high push on release.
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So Batman with 460million is done, which leaves Superman. 500million sold and soon 25years of publication sure are celebration worthy events….does it ever stop.
2 more projects, so we had where is wally, space and olympia....what the hell can top that?
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The Batman and Superman numbers comparisons are asinine; they're not being counted the same way.
The western comics are listed in terms of floppy issues sold with no reference to how many trade paperbacks or omnibuses or other editions the series might have sold, which for those two heavy-hitters would be a ton. Meanwhile, the sales of individual chapters of One Piece are fundamentally impossible to quantify short of doing something ridiculous like giving it 1/20th of the sales of each Jump issue the series ran in. Who knows where the standing would be if the full numbers could be taken into account.
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Volume 100 will contain 224 pages, start from chapter 1005 - 1015. 11 chapters.
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That's actually really surprising. I thought the Kin'emon knockout was a great ending cliffhanger. It also would have felt a lot more dramatic to end the book without resolving Luffy's predicament. And it makes for yet another volume with a Yamato scene as the final page, just to hammer home his importance one more time.
The Flower Capital scene with Toko and Hitetsu is a nice one to open the next volume on though. That should play out nicely on the reread.
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One Piece Volume 100 cover, tittle is "Color of the Supreme King" :wub::wub::wub:!!!
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I'm so happy Luffy's smiling on the 100th volume. It fits the series the best.
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Yeah, the whole "D means Smile" is becoming clearer by the day.
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That is a crisp looking outfit for Sanji.
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