One thing that bothers me is the lack of an obvious enemy for Zoro. We could have King, but it seems a waste for Zoro to go to the land of the samurai and not face their very best swordsman. There is Kyoshiro, which already blocked his attacks, but we are still unsure of how this guy is going to act in the final conflict. So, the solution of Zoro tagging Kaidou with Luffy seems also very interesting. If he won't face a master swordsman, at least the biggest dragon
Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
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I might be high, but Sabo could possibly be short for saboteur
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Zoro will never cut Kaido.
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@uniaka:
Zoro and kaidou don't even know eachother. Luffy, kozuki clan, moria, kidd have reasons to take on kaidou, zoro not.
Saving your own and allied skins might be a good reason. Just sayin.
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Zoro will be part of the fight against Kaidou and will do something to cut him.
No doubts now
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If Kidd and Killer fight side by side against Kaidou I can also see Zoro helping Luffy during one of the stages of the fight.
Also, fighting Kaidou will take many stages, I believe, and some of them might be a tag-team.
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People forget Big Mom is there as well
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Hope she doesn't get bonked in the head again.
Or that Tama doesn't feed Kaido and make him fight Big Mom.
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Both will happen.
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This is a family thing, if zoro fights kaidou, sanji will have to take care of his mother in law, somehow.
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@uniaka:
This is a family thing, if zoro fights kaidou, sanji will have to take care of his mother in law, somehow.
Sanji will fight King or the hidden Ace… Alone
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Sanji will fight King or the hidden Ace
He could still help with the 2 yonkous, I also expect zoro to get proper battle that is not yonkou, even if he will help with kaidou. Maybe he will baker another cake for her.
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@uniaka:
He could still help with the 2 yonkous, I also expect zoro to get proper battle that is not yonkou, even if he will help with kaidou. Maybe he will baker another cake for her.
Doubt it… I see the other SN helping out in that fight
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"Oda would like to end OP in 5 years."
Oda would like to have ended OP some 17 years ago.
Always be wary of what that beautiful genius says.
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Greg is Jack really a fishman ? because he doesn't look close enough like one.
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In half.:ninja:
Many other ways but not in half definitely.
Not saying Zoro can't land a blow, but yup he's not giving the Punk Hazard dragon treatment to Kaido.
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@Joy:
Greg is Jack really a fishman ? because he doesn't look close enough like one.
Info on the Vivre Card
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@Joy:
Greg is Jack really a fishman ? because he doesn't look close enough like one.
Fishmen come in all shapes, colors, sizes and limb counts. He's got jagged teeth and he can breathe underwater, thats pretty fishman-ey. (we also haven't seen his ears)
Plus, he's a zoan, so that could affect his appearance even on things like his base form.
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Greg do you have any idea how the heroes will come on top with this new alliance between Big Mom and Kaido? I mean they were already short handed when it was just Kaido and his crew, how on earth can they take on Two Yonko's? something the five elder stars have always feared, I mean they needed the entirity of the Marine and shichibukai to face down A sick dying white beard while they had a hostage to stop him from going all out (who was also one of there strongest commanders)
Do you think they'll call in the Grandfleet? will the marines unleash Vega Punk's new invention (the one to replace the seven warlords)? will the remains of the white beard pirates help out or maybe even Shanks crew…. or is there a slight possibility of them even teaming up with Black Beard?
I'd love to hear what you think will happen
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Not saying Zoro can't land a blow, but yup he's not giving the Punk Hazard dragon treatment to Kaido.
Why not? I can see Oda having Zoro cut Kaido in dragon form as a way of paralleling the Ryuuma legend.
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Why not? I can see Oda having Zoro cut Kaido in dragon form as a way of paralleling the Ryuuma legend.
Pretty sure by "Punk Hazard dragon treatment" he means killing Kaido. So with that said, are you saying you believe there's a good chance Zoro will kill Kaido?
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Pretty sure by "Punk Hazard dragon treatment" he means killing Kaido. So with that said, are you saying you believe there's a good chance Zoro will kill Kaido?
He can contribute to Kaido's death, Yonko like Kaido need multiple death blows before they are dead.
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He can contribute to Kaido's death, Yonko like Kaido need multiple death blows before they are dead.
Yea sure, but I'm asking if you think there's a good chance of him dealing the killing blow himself.
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Kaido won't be killed by a protagonist, if he's dying at the end of the arc (which isn't set in stone at all, quite the opposite if you ask me).
At best I could see Zoro landing a respectable blow before he's fodderized. Just like in almost every major arc when he's done dealing with his own opponent.
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"defeated", "beaten", "knocked off", "KOed", "killed", "murdered", "erased", "cut down", "eliminated".
Foderized means noting in this context.
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It actually means everything in this context, since we're talking about a character who
a) tries to commit suicide on a regular basis
b) keeps getting dehumanized by everyone and their mother.
I'm not sure if Kaido will die because of that, but I'm sure as hell that no protagonist will kill him. Animal or not, death wish or not.
That's why I said, at best Zoro gets to play his usual role in the series. Face against the big bad of the arc, maybe land one good hit, proceed to get fodderized by the enemy (in this case Kaido). -
Any good guess when Oda might reveal Kaidou's and BM's bounties?
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It's would make sense that since Kaidou has been captured multiple times he has no real bounty. But that wouldn't be escalation so he's going to have something in the 2B+ range. If that mean 2.5B, 3B, 5B, I dunno. Just, above Luffy's and probably above Blackbeard''s.
So that considered, his bounty might have a "only dead" stipulation.
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It's would make sense that since Kaidou has been captured multiple times he has no real bounty. But that wouldn't be escalation so he's going to have something in the 2B+ range. If that mean 2.5B, 3B, 5B, I dunno. Just, above Luffy's and probably above Blackbeard''s.
So that considered, his bounty might have a "only dead" stipulation.
An "only dead"-Option would be dope. "We don't want him alive! Can't tame such a beast!" Though this might apply to Linlin as well.
I've read that the actual fire Festival (in the real world) takes place around the 20s of october. Guess Oda's fire Festival could happen Right About the same time, couldn't it?
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I don’t believe that the emperors have money bounties but a blank check from the world government. Like “ask away, we’ll see to the best of our abilities if we can grant it.”
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Greg something about Sanji
Not saying he will become a swordsman or so but will he for one fight or something use a sword.
Judge said he was trained to do so and also he has shown impressive skills with kitchen knives so what ya think.
And no I am not talking about real swordsman like Zoro impressive just school that he has some skills showing
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Greg something about Sanji
Not saying he will become a swordsman or so but will he for one fight or something use a sword.
Judge said he was trained to do so and also he has shown impressive skills with kitchen knives so what ya think.
And no I am not talking about real swordsman like Zoro impressive just school that he has some skills showing
It goes against everything Zeff taught him.
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It goes against everything Zeff taught him.
If he ever uses a sword in a fight he's gonna beat up women next.Did I say he would use it all time? I thought about a one time only like the kitchen knives
Further more… He had no problem using the raid suit
Not saying he will beat up women... But I bet a lot of people want to see it.
Me NOT included
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Sanji already made an exception once to use knives, and that was a food battle. I think that's as far as exceptions can go without breaking his character.
Further more… He had no problem using the raid suit
1- Only because it initially as a disguise… and was then okay with the bonus abilities afterward.
2- He DID have problems with it and wants Franky and Usopp to redesign it soon as they can. -
Did I say he would use it all time? I thought about a one time only like the kitchen knives
Did I say something about how many times? No.
Further more… He had no problem using the raid suit
What does the Raid Suit have to do with Zeff beating Sanji up every time he threatened his hands in combat?
Not saying he will beat up women… But I bet a lot of people want to see it.
Me NOT included
Irrelevant.
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Kishido,
If he's fighting against food, absolutely.
If not, it would defeat basically all of WCI.
….....and Oda more or less did that when he made him wear the f***ing suit ^O^
Now, now, I will admit that he had a SOLID reason for wearing the suit but still, it's a bit of a shame. (that's not to say I don't think it's cool/fit the moment)
So yeah, could totally happen.
Maybe in Elbaf, fighting one of Mom's goons?
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Damn. Now I'm just waiting for Franky to work on the raid suit. Unveiling the ships he repaired for the alliance, and redesigning the raid suit are the two big moments in the manga I'm waiting for.
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Any good guess when Oda might reveal Kaidou's and BM's bounties?
After King's bounty-reveal obviously, but still curious how far they are ahead of BB.I say 3b minimum and 4b max.
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I'm more curious about Dragon's bounty. He's still the most wanted man in the world, right?
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Kishido,
If he's fighting against food, absolutely.
If not, it would defeat basically all of WCI.
….....and Oda more or less did that when he made him wear the f***ing suit ^O^
Now, now, I will admit that he had a SOLID reason for wearing the suit but still, it's a bit of a shame. (that's not to say I don't think it's cool/fit the moment)
So yeah, could totally happen.
Maybe in Elbaf, fighting one of Mom's goons?
No matter how bad the taste of Sanji wearing the suit is, at least it grants him a Stealth mode so he can peep on women any time now.
Everything else on the suit is just (-____-) IMHO.EDIT: Greg, whatever Hyogoro told Luffy About haki in this arc, I guess Zoro already was capable of after defeating Mr.1 (though he was unaware of it).
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I say 3b minimum and 4b max.
Although BB has 2 DFs, he still is the "newest" Emperor, so I'd say LinLin and Kaidou have larger bounties than him.
I also would still say Dragon's got the highest Bounty, because being the "worst criminal in the world".@maxdex
neat idea, but I hope Oda doesn't pull it off. Excuses could be made for "Napoleon being super-shy in front of strangers" and Kinemon's farts, but not for bounties. -
@The:
I'm more curious about Dragon's bounty. He's still the most wanted man in the world, right?
I think recently it was revealed in Jump Shanks has the highest bounty, but i think it did not specify whether it´s the highest bounty among the Yonkou or generally (the information was about the Emperors specifically, so might be the former).
And both BM and Kaidou have at least 2 billion. https://thelibraryofohara.com/2019/01/23/new-information-regarding-the-bounties-of-the-yonko-news-roundup/It would make sense for Dragon to have it though, considering bounty is supposed to indicate threat level and he is called the most dangerous criminal, but bounties have been inconsistent for the majority of the series, so would be nothing new.
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No matter how bad the taste of Sanji wearing the suit is, at least it grants him a Stealth mode so he can peep on women any time now.
Everything else on the suit is just (-____-) IMHO.EDIT: Greg, whatever Hyogoro told Luffy About haki in this arc, I guess Zoro already was capable of after defeating Mr.1 (though he was unaware of it).
Zoro's emphasis on CoA makes him less advanced in CoO, so a guy like Shiliew Needs to be sensed properly by Zoro improving on CoO.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Although BB has 2 DFs, he still is the "newest" Emperor, so I'd say LinLin and Kaidou have larger bounties than him.
I also would still say Dragon's got the highest Bounty, because being the "worst criminal in the world".@maxdex
neat idea, but I hope Oda doesn't pull it off. Excuses could be made for "Napoleon being super-shy in front of strangers" and Kinemon's farts, but not for bounties.Appearance-wise or ability-wise? Since well, it´s simply a boost of all physical attributes, as Sanji points out himself.
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I think recently it was revealed in Jump Shanks has the highest bounty, but i think it did not specify whether it´s the highest bounty among the Yonkou or generally (the information was about the Emperors specifically, so might be the former).
And both BM and Kaidou have at least 2 billion. https://thelibraryofohara.com/2019/01/23/new-information-regarding-the-bounties-of-the-yonko-news-roundup/It would make sense for Dragon to have it though, considering bounty is supposed to indicate threat level and he is called the most dangerous criminal, but bounties have been inconsistent for the majority of the series, so would be nothing new.
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Appearance-wise or ability-wise? Since well, it´s simply a boost of all physical attributes, as Sanji points out himself.
Yeah, bounties don't really mean much anymore I suppose. Once Usopp got a higher bounty than Franky (and I think Robin as well) I knew they were nonsense, lol.
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@The:
Yeah, bounties don't really mean much anymore I suppose. Once Usopp got a higher bounty than Franky (and I think Robin as well) I knew they were nonsense, lol.
Bounties were never supposed to be like the power levels on Dragon Ball. Bounties are there to show the prestige of a pirate,and the importance and prestige of a pirate isnt only about his-her physical strenght.
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Bounty is supposed to be a summation of different aspects, from strength, to your disposition for crime, to actually being a direct threat to the World Government itself.
These are the only three aspects that are directly stated in the manga to influence your bounty, and with regard to these aspects, no, bounties are neither consistent nor credible, and most of the time they are used for simply that, power level and escalation to hype the newest and baddest.
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Bounties were never supposed to be like the power levels on Dragon Ball. Bounties are there to show the prestige of a pirate,and the importance and prestige of a pirate isnt only about his-her physical strenght.
Bounties are supposedly to show someone's threat to the government. So then why doesn't Robin have one of the highest bounties in tne series? And how is Usopp more of a threat than Franky?
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@The:
Bounties are supposedly to show someone's threat to the government. So then why doesn't Robin have one of the highest bounties in tne series? And how is Usopp more of a threat than Franky?
How isn't Usopp currently more of a threat from the government's perspective?
All Franky did was take down one of Doffy's officers. Usopp on the other hand singlehandedly dismantled Dressrosa's darkest secret, which in turn had him gain a following of people that literally saw him as a god. It was the moment where everything began going to shit for Doffy, with him reacting accordingly by even putting out a larger bounty for his head than Luffy.
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Franky, who had years and the capabilities, to build an Ancient Weapon so powerful that it could end the era of pirates?
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Yeah, that Franky is saaaaalty.
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Franky, who had years and the capabilities, to build an Ancient Weapon so powerful that it could end the era of pirates?
That Franky?We're talking Dressrosa though. What you're talking about would've already factored into his first bounty if anything. So yea, Franky's just gonna have to live with that salt for awhile.