@HeartOfDarkness:
Pretty sure Whitebeard is referring to the fact that Roger was a "good" D and is waiting for someone like him rather than someone like Blackbeard who is evil and will use OP or the knowledge for something evil.
We already know that the historical aspect isn't black and white as Ray quite literally told Robin that she and SH's might come to a different conclusion after they have seen the entire world. Combine with the fact that ancient kingdom built three weapons of mass destruction that can destroy the world. Not everyone in D clan is a "good" guy. Hence why Whitebeard is talking about "who" Roger is waiting for; someone who represents the good D. While Blackbeard represents the "evil" D.
Read the text, my dude.
Luffy isn't interested in conquering or whatever. His goal is to have freedom. That's where the title comes in. The title just by itself doesn't mean much to Luffy. He doesn't care if people call him PK or not. He simply wants to become the king to achieve freedom. That's why his goal cannot be achieved simply by going to Raftel and uncovering OP. It will happen after the war.
Pretty sure does not cut it. It has been mentioned several times Roger is waiting for someone, heck you can see the entire Great Pirate Era as his legacy to inspire people to follow his footsteps, even Usopp came to that idea.
And how and why Roger did what he did, and then retired, got together with Rouge and so on, instead of acting on what he found out, that is obvious from a narrative standpoint we will learn about once we also learn about the truth.
As far as i am concerned, Roger might even seen himself as the one who prepares for the guy who will change the world.
Like for example, we do know that the Rio Poneglyph is simply the accumulation of all the texts of the Poneglyph with information on them.
Well obviously, somebody had to gather all the texts and bring them to Raftel, just like Roger stated he did with the Poneglyph on Skypeia.
Well, we also know that Roger, in 800 years, is the only dude who has managed to get there, and at this point at least, we have no reason to doubt that statement, so he obviously had to do it.
And if you look at that how long he took to reach Raftel (Brook stated Roger was a rookie 50 years ago pre-TS, 22 years ago he became Pirate King, so that´s a journey of 28 years, compare that to the three years Luffy will take, if we include the training span of 2 years in it), it becomes pretty plausible that´s what he did.
Of course, but only one organization has come out as leader of the world 800 years ago, and has since shaped the world to their liking.
BB being the same in some points yet completely different in other aspects than the other D will surely come up, no argument there, putting aside whether the distinction is as easy as good or evil, but that neither denies what has been mentioned of Roger and what he did, nor what the World Government represents.
Yeah, that´s all legitimate.
That does not equal not caring about the title though. It is just his interpretation of what the title means to him personally, but not caring about the title, that´s nonsense.
Luffy can not even tolerate some nobody like Hody calling himself the future Pirate King, you can even make the argument that the reason for Luffy wanting to defeat all the Yonkou, except Shanks of course with whom he has a more personal promise, is because they are said to be the closest to the One Piece, and of course they happened to have requisites aka Road Poneglyphs to even get to Raftel, so that Luffy does not only have to act on that feeling from a narrative standpoint, in addition to of course Sanji´s dilemma and Wano´s occupation.
And it never mattered that their definition of Pirate King and what it represents was different to Luffy´s, so that you might make the argument that Luffy does not care about being called PK instead of others, Luffy is pretty adamant about becoming Pirate King.
And the all conquer thing is a synonym for having travelled the entire Grand Line to its end, the page you linked to is from the chapter that makes that pretty obvious.
It´s once again a difference in interpretation. While most people talked about Roger pretty much putting his stamp on the entire sea by doing what nobody else did before, reaching Raftel, Luffy sees it as something different due to his personality, and that personality is what makes him so endearing to Shanks and Rayleigh in the first place, because they see the similarity to Roger.
What you are doing is taking the definition of Pirate King of other characters and claiming Luffy does not care about that.
Well yeah, he does not care about their definition, he does not think about it as having the most military might like Crocodile saw it for example, or ruling over the sea like others, but by being able to do anything he wants to and feels like, the ultimate freedom, represented by something nobody seems to be able to except one, reaching Raftel.
Combine that with Luffy´s childishness, the same attributed Roger was said to have, yeah, he is caring about the title a lot.
And once again, that title was given to Roger after he did what nobody else did before, reach Raftel. He did not get the title because he was the strongest, Whitebeard was called that.
In regards to BB, like nobody in his right mind would deny that the dude is the most characterized besides the Strawhats themselves, and everything about him screams end game antagonist, whether it´s him being a mirror of Luffy in some aspects and different in others, his actions so far, being the only dude to have two abilities, probably even three at the end, representing darkness and whatnot and so forth.
But one, most who recognize this underplay the significance of the World Government, the only constant factor in almost all arcs so far in one way or the other, or their symbolic value as the sheer opposite of Luffy and his ideals,
and two, do not recognize the problem i stated above.
Nobody as an individual even comes close to BB´s value as a character, at this point you can make arguments for Akainu, or Im himself (for now, Oda has enough time to remedy that fact), but BB is miles ahead in that regard, but the World Government as an institution?
Yep.