Just hoping to see a number 10 on that Jinbei card
Vivre Card: One Piece Visual Dictionary
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New information coming in the next pack :
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Squard bounty will be revealed .
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Kuja pirates's Ship name will be revealed .
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I wonder if Kuromarimo and Chess' cards will reveal what happened to them after their defeat. Were they turned over to the Marines at some point or have they been imprisoned within the Drum Kingdom. Also if their cards will have an after picture for their Chessmarimo appearance or if they (as Chessmarimo) will be an EX character since they have been treated as a separate character sometimes (such as the Red and Blue databooks) and the fact that they were only in three chapters.
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Just hoping to see a number 10 on that Jinbei card
What if his card is 11? Imagine how fun that would be.
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@S.C.:
Well Viola means "rape" in spanish. So…who knows!
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What if his card is 11? Imagine how fun that would be.
everyone will go crazy with theories
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New information coming in the next pack :
- Squard bounty will be revealed .
He better has a pretty high bounty as he is Whitebeard’s first pick to command all of the ally-army, otherwise it would be disappointing.
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My wild guess:
Vivi 10
Carue 11
Jinbei 12 -
Will they also name marco's devil fruit or would it just be jozu's? Also now i think i know why they didn't name the supernova's df since all of those fruits could be named in this arc or the next since most of the supernovas are currently a key player on this saga… Also what would be the cards on the 2nd starter pack?
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Vivi should be 5,5, though, as that was the number Oda gave her.
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Covers
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Will we also learn Little Oars Jr.'s bounty, too?
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I wonder if it's possible for a future EX Card to have one side that is the final volume for one saga and the other side be volume 1 for another.
Will they also name marco's devil fruit or would it just be jozu's? Also now i think i know why they didn't name the supernova's df since all of those fruits could be named in this arc or the next since most of the supernovas are currently a key player on this saga… Also what would be the cards on the 2nd starter pack?
The last packs that come out before the second folder are the Enemies of Fish-Man Island and Skypiea respectively and the packs after that are the Punk Hazard and Blackbeard Pirate packs, so if I had to guess the second starter packs card would likely revolve around the citizens of Skypiea, the Shandia, and assuming the Enemies of Skypiea pack also covers the some characters in the Jaya arc such as Bellamy, than possibly the Saruyama Alliance, the Marines and Warlords that were part of the summit during the Jaya arc (Sengoku, Tsuru, Kuma, and Doflamingo) and maybe the Foxy Pirates.
The second pack might also be used for characters they couldn't fit in other packs which would likely be Dorry and Brogy since it doesn't seem like they'll be able to fit them into the second Alabasta pack.
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11 and 12 might be Merry and Sunny?
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It's cool that Vivi is #13, but a little weird that Carue is not #14.
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Jinbe Bounty Is :
438 M
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R.I.P. Carue
I hope 12 and 13 aren't just the ships, that'd be kinda boring. Dunno who else would go into slot 13 if 12 is a crew mate though. Blackbeard?
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bon-chan maybe?
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bon-chan maybe?
or was he already mentioned?Bentham is cool and all, but it never got to the point that it did for Vivi. Even if that was the case, he'd be numbered after Vivi I'm pretty sure.
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Jinbe Card Number is 10 :
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Number 11 and 12 are empty ...* Vivi#13
Jinbe card says :*Helmsman of Straw hat crew
I was skeptical about Jinbe being #10, due to the fact that the characters they chose for the cover of the pack are either the Straw Hats (especially if they've part of the arcs the packs cover) or are connected to them in someway such as Law (who is currently allied with them) and Ace (being one of Luffy's sworn brothers). Sakazuki would appear to be the exception except for the fact that he is Ace's killer and there will no doubt be a reckoning being him and Luffy in the future. Also the pictures of the Straw Hats they use for the front of the cards don't seem to be lifted from panels of the manga like the other characters are.
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Marco devil fruit is Bird Bird model Phoenix
Jozu is Paramrcia type ( Diamond/ Shine )
Little oars is 72 Years old with 550 M bounty and from race called ( Old Giants )
White Beard hometown Name is Sphinx
Marigold is 40 M
Sandersonia is 40 M
Dadan is 7.8 M
Squard is 210 M
Crocus is aware of Haki
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Squard's bounty is expectedly impressive.
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Squardo, a guy active since over 25 years ago and who led the entrie WB alliance, is worth only 210 million?
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According to Vivi card :
She was a member of Straw Har Pirates which means She is ( EX straw hat member )*
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Old Giants, huh? I'm sure that will be brought up in Elbaf.
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Updated list. I'll add colours and EX Characters and adjust spellings as that info shows up
! | Number | Name | Set |
| 0 | My Card | Starter |
| 1 | Monkey D Luffy | Starter |
| 1 | Monkey D Luffy (Age 17) | Starter |
| 1 | Luffy-Tarou | Promo |
| 1 | Monkey D Luffy Skills Volume 1 | Starter |
| 2 | Roronoa Zoro | Starter |
| 2 | Roronoa Zoro (Age 19) | Starter |
| 2 | Zoro-Juuro | Promo |
| 3 | Nami | Starter |
| 3 | Nami (Age 18) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 4 | Usopp | Starter |
| 4 | Usopp (Age 17) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 5 | Sanji | Starter |
| 5 | Sanji (Age 19) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 6 | Tony Tony Chopper | Starter |
| 6 | Tony Tony Chopper (Age 15) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 7 | Nico Robin | Starter |
| 8 | Franky | Starter |
| 9 | Brook | Starter |
| 10 | Jinbe | |
| 11 | | |
| 12 | | |
| 13 | Nefeltari Vivi | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 14 | Gol D Roger | Starter |
| 15 | Anjo (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 16 | Monstar (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 17 | Shanks | Starter |
| 18 | Lucky Roo | Starter |
| 19 | Yasopp | Starter |
| 20 | Benn Beckman | Starter |
| 21 | Mikio Itoo (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 22 | Makino | Starter |
| 23 | Higuma | Starter |
| 24 | Gyoru (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 25 | Chicken (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 26 | Whoop Slap (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 27 | Lord of the Coast (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 28 | Koby | Starter |
| 29 | Alvida | Starter |
| 30 | Heppoko (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 31 | Peppoko (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 32 | Poppoko (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 33 | Rika (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 34 | Helmeppo | Starter |
| 35 | Soro (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 36 | Ririka (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 37 | Morgan | Starter |
| 38 | Rokkaku (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 39 | Ukkari (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 40 | Kuina | Starter |
| 41 | Koushirou | Starter |
| 42 | Ripper (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 43 | Pinky (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 44 | Tightrope Walking Funan Bros (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 45 | Superhuman Domingos (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 46 | Buggy | Starter |
| 47 | Domo-Kun (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 48 | Acrobatic Fuwas (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 49 | Mohji (Mohji and Richie) | Starter |
| 50 | Richie (Mohji and Richie) | Starter |
| 51 | Shushu (Boodle and Shushu) | Starter |
| 52 | Boodle (Boodle and Shushu) | Starter |
| 53 | Hocker (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 54 | Poro (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 55 | Cabaji | Starter |
| 56 | Cocox (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 57 | Gaimon | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 58 | Mornin (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 59 | Ninjin (Usopp Pirates) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 60 | Piiman (Usopp Pirates) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 61 | Tamanegi (Usopp Pirates) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 62 | Kuro | Masters of the East Blue |
| 63 | Kaya | Masters of the East Blue |
| 64 | Mansion Guard (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 65 | Merry (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 66 | Jango | Masters of the East Blue |
| 67 | Sham | Masters of the East Blue |
| 68 | Buchi | Masters of the East Blue |
| 69 | Nugire Yainu (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 70 | Banchina (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 71 | Yosaku | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 72 | Johnny | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 73 | | |
| 74 | Motzel (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 75 | Moodie (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 76 | Zeff | Masters of the East Blue |
| 77 | Batchee (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 78 | Patty | Masters of the East Blue |
| 79 | Lines (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 80 | Pandaman (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 81 | Gin | Masters of the East Blue |
| 82 | Carne | Masters of the East Blue |
| 83 | Roxanne (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 84 | Krieg | Masters of the East Blue |
| 85 | Dracule Mihawk | Masters of the East Blue |
| 86 | Pearl | Masters of the East Blue |
| 87 | Ideaman (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
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| 91 | | |
| 92 | | |
| 93 | Nezumi | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 94 | Arlong | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 95 | | |
| 96 | | |
| 97 | Nojiko | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 98 | Genzo | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 99 | | |
| 100 | | |
| 101 | | |
| 102 | Chew | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 103 | Kuroobi | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
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| 106 | | |
| 107 | Bellemere | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
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| 118 | Ipponmatsu | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
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| 121 | | |
| 122 | Smoker | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 123 | | |
| 124 | Tashigi | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 125 | Monkey D Dragon | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 126 | Laboon | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 127 | Crocus | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 134 | | |
| 135 | Igaram | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 137 | | |
| 138 | Carue (Super Spot-Billed Duck Squad) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 154 | Wapol | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 155 | | |
| 156 | | |
| 157 | Dalton | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 161 | | |
| 162 | Dr Kureha | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 163 | | |
| 164 | Chess | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 165 | Kuromarimo | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 167 | | |
| 168 | Dr Hiriluk | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 169 | | |
| 170 | Nefeltari Cobra | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 177 | Portgas D Ace | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 198 | | |
| 199 | Pell | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 200 | Chaka | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
! | 270 | Edward Newgate | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
! | 446 | Marco | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 447 | Jozu | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
! | 493 | Sea Rabbit (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 494 | Camie | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 495 | Pappag | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 496 | Duval | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 497 | | |
| 498 | | |
| 499 | | |
| 500 | Motobaro (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 501 | Antonio (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 502 | Devil Dias (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 503 | Saru (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 504 | | |
| 505 | | |
| 506 | Jean Bart (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 507 | Kairiken (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 508 | Minoruba (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 509 | Shakuyaku | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 510 | Capone Bege | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 511 | Jewelry Bonney | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 512 | Basil Hawkins | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 513 | Eustass Kid | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 514 | Scratchmen Apoo | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 515 | X Drake | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 516 | Urouge | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 517 | Killer | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 518 | Trafalgar Law | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 518 | Trafalgar Law Skills | Promo |
| 519 | Penguin (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 520 | Bepo | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 521 | Shachi (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 522 | Peterman (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 523 | | |
| 524 | Marie (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 525 | Judy (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 526 | Marin (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 527 | Heat (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 528 | Wire (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 529 | Disco (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 530 | Stansen (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 531 | Silvers Rayleigh | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 532 | Pascia (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 533 | Byron (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 534 | Coffee Monkeys (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 535 | Lacuba (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 536 | Sicily (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 537 | Pacifista | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 538 | Borsalino | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 540 | | |
| 541 | Sentomaru | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 542 | | |
| 543 | Marguerite | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 556 | | |
| 557 | Boa Hancock | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 558 | Boa Sandersonia | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 559 | Boa Marigold | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 571 | Hannyabal | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 575 | Magellan | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 580 | Saldeath | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 581 | | |
| 582 | Little Sadi | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 587 | | |
| 588 | Inazuma | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 589 | Emporio Ivankov | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 591 | Shiliew | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 594 | | |
| 595 | Sakazuki | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 599 | | |
| 600 | Squard | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 606 | Vista | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 627 | Little Oars Jr. | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 648 | Sanjuan Wolf | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 649 | Vasco Shot | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 650 | Catarina Devon | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 651 | Avalo Pizarro | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 656 | Curly Dadan | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 659 | Sabo (Age 10) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 664 | Stelly | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 680 | Demaro Black (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 681 | Chocolat (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 682 | Turco (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 683 | Mounblutain (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 684 | Manjaro (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 685 | Drip (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 686 | Cocoa (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 687 | Nora Gitsune (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners | -
Marco Devil Fruit is also called ( Immortality )
Little oars is called by his race ( infant ) even though He is 72 Years Old
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Little oars is 72 Years old with 550 M bounty and from race called ( Old Giants )
Well well well well well, I posted an elaborate theory a little while back that hinged on (among other things) the Oars line being a separate species from regular giants. Good to have that part confirmed, if nothing else so far.
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Marco Devil Fruit is also called ( Immortality )
Little oars is called by his race ( infant ) even though He is 72 Years Old
May I ask how tall Oars Jr. is?
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Vista is from North Blue
Marco the new leader of whole WhiteBeard Pirates and also the Doctor of the ship
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Did Zeus get a card yet? Maybe he's #12?
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! Zeus vs Stronger
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Did Zeus get a card yet? Maybe he's #12?
If Vivi's pet didn't get a card, Nami's probably won't either.
The two ships have strong odds for the remaining numbers, but I think it's possible they'll share a number and be listed through the Kablutermann, which would allow us one more crewmate.
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Any word on what Jinbe's color is?
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If Vivi's pet didn't get a card, Nami's probably won't either.
The two ships have strong odds for the remaining numbers, but I think it's possible they'll share a number and be listed through the Kablutermann, which would allow us one more crewmate.
I don't think the ships will get their own numbered card (or if they do it'll be 0 or something else).
The ship's getting a card, particularly the Sunny, only made sense as #13. Seems to be a magic number for Oda as seen here and in the databook.
#11 and #12 will be new members.
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Vivi's card is a bright orange. RIP the colour coding in my spreadsheet…
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What does Vista's card say about his sword skills compared to Mihawk?
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LQ files thanks to TalkOP Forums.
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Okay, full list this time, all colours and EX Characters confirmed:
! | Number | Name | Set |
| 0 | My Card | Starter |
| 1 | Monkey D Luffy | Starter |
| 1 | Monkey D Luffy (Age 17) | Starter |
| 1 | Luffy-Tarou | Promo |
| 1 | Monkey D Luffy Skills Volume 1 | Starter |
| 2 | Roronoa Zoro | Starter |
| 2 | Roronoa Zoro (Age 19) | Starter |
| 2 | Zoro-Juuro | Promo |
| 3 | Nami | Starter |
| 3 | Nami (Age 18) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 4 | Usopp | Starter |
| 4 | Usopp (Age 17) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 5 | Sanji | Starter |
| 5 | Sanji (Age 19) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 6 | Tony Tony Chopper | Starter |
| 6 | Tony Tony Chopper (Age 15) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 7 | Nico Robin | Starter |
| 8 | Franky | Starter |
| 9 | Brook | Starter |
| 10 | Jinbe | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 11 | | |
| 12 | | |
| 13 | Nefeltari Vivi | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 14 | Gol D Roger | Starter |
| 15 | Anjo (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 16 | Monstar (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 17 | Shanks | Starter |
| 18 | Lucky Roo | Starter |
| 19 | Yasopp | Starter |
| 20 | Benn Beckman | Starter |
| 21 | Mikio Itoo (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 22 | Makino | Starter |
| 23 | Higuma | Starter |
| 24 | Gyoru (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 25 | Chicken (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 26 | Whoop Slap (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 27 | Lord of the Coast (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 28 | Koby | Starter |
| 29 | Alvida | Starter |
| 30 | Heppoko (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 31 | Peppoko (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 32 | Poppoko (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 33 | Rika (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 34 | Helmeppo | Starter |
| 35 | Soro (EX Characters East Blue Vol 1) | Starter |
| 36 | Ririka (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 37 | Morgan | Starter |
| 38 | Rokkaku (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 39 | Ukkari (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 40 | Kuina | Starter |
| 41 | Koushirou | Starter |
| 42 | Ripper (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 43 | Pinky (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 44 | Tightrope Walking Funan Bros (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 45 | Superhuman Domingos (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 46 | Buggy | Starter |
| 47 | Domo-Kun (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 48 | Acrobatic Fuwas (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 49 | Mohji (Mohji and Richie) | Starter |
| 50 | Richie (Mohji and Richie) | Starter |
| 51 | Shushu (Boodle and Shushu) | Starter |
| 52 | Boodle (Boodle and Shushu) | Starter |
| 53 | Hocker (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 54 | Poro (EX Characters East Blue Vol 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 55 | Cabaji | Starter |
| 56 | Cocox (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 2) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 57 | Gaimon | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 58 | Mornin (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 59 | Ninjin (Usopp Pirates) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 60 | Piiman (Usopp Pirates) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 61 | Tamanegi (Usopp Pirates) | Masters of the East Blue |
| 62 | Kuro | Masters of the East Blue |
| 63 | Kaya | Masters of the East Blue |
| 64 | Mansion Guard (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 65 | Merry (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 66 | Jango | Masters of the East Blue |
| 67 | Sham | Masters of the East Blue |
| 68 | Buchi | Masters of the East Blue |
| 69 | Nugire Yainu (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 70 | Banchina (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 71 | Yosaku | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 72 | Johnny | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
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| 74 | Motzel (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 75 | Moodie (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 76 | Zeff | Masters of the East Blue |
| 77 | Batchee (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 78 | Patty | Masters of the East Blue |
| 79 | Lines (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 80 | Pandaman (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 81 | Gin | Masters of the East Blue |
| 82 | Carne | Masters of the East Blue |
| 83 | Roxanne (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 84 | Krieg | Masters of the East Blue |
| 85 | Dracule Mihawk | Masters of the East Blue |
| 86 | Pearl | Masters of the East Blue |
| 87 | Ideaman (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 3) | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 88 | Hustle (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 89 | Kumate Tribe (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 90 | Kagikko (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 91 | Panda Shark (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 92 | Nami FIshman (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 93 | Nezumi | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 94 | Arlong | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
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| 96 | Chabo (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 97 | Nojiko | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 98 | Genzo | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 99 | Kaneshiro (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 100 | Pisaro (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 102 | Chew | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 103 | Kuroobi | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 104 | Shioyaki (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 105 | Take (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 106 | Pudding Pudding (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 107 | Bellemere | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 108 | Dr Nako (Ex Characters East Blue Vol. 4) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 118 | Ipponmatsu | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
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| 122 | Smoker | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 123 | | |
| 124 | Tashigi | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 125 | Monkey D Dragon | Arlong Park and the People of Cocoyashi |
| 126 | Laboon | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 127 | Crocus | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 134 | | |
| 135 | Igaram | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 137 | | |
| 138 | Karoo (Karoo and Super Spot-Billed Duck Troops) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 154 | Wapol | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 156 | | |
| 157 | Dalton | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 161 | | |
| 162 | Dr Kureha | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 163 | | |
| 164 | Chess | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 165 | Kuromarimo | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 166 | | |
| 167 | | |
| 168 | Dr Hiriluk | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 169 | | |
| 170 | Nefeltari Cobra | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 176 | | |
| 177 | Portgas D Ace | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 199 | Pell | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 200 | Chaka | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
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| 205 | | |
| 206 | Stomp (Karoo and Super Spot-Billed Duck Troops) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 207 | Ivan X (Karoo and Super Spot-Billed Duck Troops) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 208 | Cowboy (Karoo and Super Spot-Billed Duck Troops) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 209 | Bourbon Jr. (Karoo and Super Spot-Billed Duck Troops) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 210 | Kentauros (Karoo and Super Spot-Billed Duck Troops) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
| 211 | Hikoichi (Karoo and Super Spot-Billed Duck Troops) | The Desert Kingdom - Alabasta's Elite |
! | 270 | Edward Newgate | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
! | 446 | Marco | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 447 | Jozu | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 457 | Thatch (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 493 | Sea Rabbit (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 494 | Camie | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 495 | Pappag | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 496 | Duval | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 497 | | |
| 498 | | |
| 499 | | |
| 500 | Motobaro (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 501 | Antonio (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 502 | Devil Dias (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 503 | Saru (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 504 | | |
| 505 | | |
| 506 | Jean Bart (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 507 | Kairiken (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 508 | Minoruba (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 509 | Shakuyaku | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 510 | Capone Bege | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 511 | Jewelry Bonney | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 512 | Basil Hawkins | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 513 | Eustass Kid | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 514 | Scratchmen Apoo | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 515 | X Drake | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 516 | Urouge | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 517 | Killer | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 518 | Trafalgar Law | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 518 | Trafalgar Law Skills | Promo |
| 519 | Penguin (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 520 | Bepo | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 521 | Shachi (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 522 | Peterman (EX Characters Summit War Vol 1) | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 523 | | |
| 524 | Marie (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 525 | Judy (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 526 | Marin (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 527 | Heat (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 528 | Wire (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 529 | Disco (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 530 | Stansen (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 531 | Silvers Rayleigh | Gathering! Supernovas!! |
| 532 | Pascia (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 533 | Byron (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 534 | Coffee Monkeys (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 535 | Lacuba (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 536 | Sicily (EX Characters Summit War Vol 2) | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 537 | Pacifista | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 538 | Borsalino | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 541 | Sentomaru | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 543 | Marguerite | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 557 | Boa Hancock | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 558 | Boa Sandersonia | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 559 | Boa Marigold | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 571 | Hannyabal | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 575 | Magellan | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 580 | Saldeath | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 582 | Little Sadi | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 588 | Inazuma | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 589 | Emporio Ivankov | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 591 | Shiliew | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 595 | Sakazuki | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 600 | Squard | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 605 | Namur (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 606 | Vista | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 607 | Curiel (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 608 | Speed Jiru (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 609 | Rakuyo (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 610 | Blenheim (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 611 | Fossa (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 612 | Haruta (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 613 | Blamenco (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 614 | Izo (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
| 615 | Atmos (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 627 | Little Oars Jr. | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 640 | Kingdew (EX Characters Whitebeard Pirates Vol 1) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 648 | Sanjuan Wolf | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 649 | Vasco Shot | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 650 | Catarina Devon | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 651 | Avalo Pizarro | Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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| 656 | Curly Dadan | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 659 | Sabo (Age 10) | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 664 | Sterry | Four Emeprors: Whitebeard Pirates |
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| 680 | Demaro Black (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 681 | Chocolat (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 682 | Turco (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 683 | Mounblutain (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 684 | Manjaro (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 685 | Drip (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
| 686 | Cocoa (Fake Straw Hat Crew) | Promo/Impel Down Guards VS Prisoners |
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Is there anything of note in the part talking about the other WB commanders?
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Jinbe at #10 is great to see but Vivi at #13 is very surprising. That two character gap is going to cause a lot of speculation and debate lol. I hope it's not just the two ships; that would kind of suck to deconfirm anymore crewmembers after Jinbe. Luffy said at the beginning he wanted 10 crewmates but there's a space for an extra person now.
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I love the beginning of the month. Love databooks. Hope they get translated to English.
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Oh this is interesting. Originally Marguerite was planned to have a Devil Fruit. Neko Neko/Cat Cat Fruit, Model Black Cat.
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@Geg:
Oh this is interesting. Originally Marguerite was planned to have a Devil Fruit. Neko Neko/Cat Cat Fruit, Model Black Cat.
Hmm we've known this bit for quite some years now.
Btw, where were Marco and Jozu born?
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Hmm we've known this bit for quite some years now.
Btw, where were Marco and Jozu born?
Ah I guess I just never saw anything about it anywhere lol.
Marco was born on the Grand Line, Jozu in West Blue.
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I didn't know that about Marguette either.
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Did the Vivre card sayanything about Yasopp's marksmanship in the previous sets?
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Also an interesting info is that Yasopp and Vista are of the same age. According to a SBS, they have some rivalry.